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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Jackal1 on August 18, 2006, 10:45:07 AM
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....or anyone who works with the parole board?
I`m wanting to know exactly what it takes for a parole officer in Texas to enforce and act on a violation of parole by their parolee.
There is a parolee in the area who is giving the community a lot of crap. (out on parole for murder)
Numerous breakins and thefts to his account. He has also been caught in posession of a firearm within the last three weeks.
The parole officer slapped him on the wrist with a verbal for the firearm and told him to contain the carrying of the firearm to his property only. ???????
A parolee? I thought it would be a direct violation , and a serious one, for a person out on parole for murder to be caught with a firearm.
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Jackal, why don't you call the local newspaper and ask for their investigative reporter. They ought to jump on that to dump on the local authorities.
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Hehe! About as investigative as the local paper`s reporters get is "Who ate the doughnuts?"
We`re getting two different stories. One from the female parole officer and one from the S.D.
The parole officer at first, when contacted about this cat carryin a gun around, slinking through the shadows and streets in the wee hours of the morning, told the guy that contacted her to call the S.D., that was nothing she could do about it. When asked what exactly was her role as a parole officer in a situation such as this, she got a little spooked and said she would talk to him about it. He admited to having and carrying the weapon. That`s when she gave him the "confine the weapon to your property" speech. Makes no sense to me.
With a litle more pressure the parole officer has stated that it will take her some time to be able to have him taken in on a parole violation...weeks. That does not make much sense to any of us either.
He has recently threatened to kill his wife. She is in hiding at the moment. She has also stated that he has made the remark that he is going to kill every neighbor around, one by one. She has informed the S.D. that he was doing the breakins/theft, etc. The S.D. drives by about once a day and gives him the eyeball. That`s about it. They are telling her that they are trying to make a case against him. What the H does it take to make a case? If this doesn`t fit the bill, I don`t know what would.
The death threats would normaly be blown off as BS in most instances, but..... they guy is a bipolar schitzo. He is also strung out to the max.
The last little episode such as this had to be taken care of behind the scenes, so to speak, due to any, any effort by the S.D.
Folks are a tad on edge around here right now as can be expected.
Another little recent detail is he refused to report for parole and the parole officer had to get the S.D. to accompany her to his residence this past Monday. He was in a knife fight a few days before. She knows about that also. Still he is roaming around all the wee hours of the morning.
I`m not much in tune with the powers of Tx parole officers, but I would assume the ball has been and is still being dropped here by the parole officer and the S.D. Thought maybe there might be a parole officer in our midst that could shed some light on this.
In the meantime, their are three or four of us who are keeping an eye on the area during the wee hours. We`re sort of used to this. We have had to do it before due to lack of anything resembling law enforcement in the county.
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Shoot him.
:aok
ron white
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have to agree.
Shoot him in his head.
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You might try contacting the P.O's supervisor and make them aware of the situation. I don't know what the law is in TX, but I'm pretty sure that it is illegal for a fellon to have a firearm, on his property or not. Sounds like the P.O. is affraid if this guy and if that is the case she needs to find another line of work. The fact that he made threats against his wife and neighbors is reason enough to revoke his parole. and in CA the P.O. can take the bad guy into custody on the spot. The said bad guy spends his time in county lock up until the paperwork is done to send him back to the pen.
My 2 cents
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Originally posted by SIK1
Sounds like the P.O. is affraid if this guy and if that is the case she needs to find another line of work.
My thoughts exactly.
On the initial contact she even asked the guy what he thought about the chances of retaliation were. He told her if she was afraid of him that he would go with her. :)
whack him over the head with your dildo. Oh wait, you can't. Dildoes are banned in TX. Shoot him instead!
Get back under your rock Beetle.
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Originally posted by eureka101
Awww, come on Jack!
Beetle, as you know, I`m not against a little back and forth gee gawing. :)
I`m just seriously trying to get some info here from someone who might be in the know.
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beetle figures skuzzy is on his weekend now so he scuttles out from under his rock for a while.
Jackal,
I'd still be calling the paper and asking them about the PO not doing the job. Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon should be a violation, at least it is in Arizona. That's plenty to get an arrest and conviction if they find one in his presence or residence. If you wrote the information down and sent it in to them they might get curious and start asking embarrasing questions of the PO and the SD.
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Jackal,
It's the whole gravity theory. The PO has a boss. The SD has its bosses. You need to contact such people. Do it over the phone and write them CERTIFIED letters. Nothing scares people (well, 'sides bullets) more then a certified letter. It basically means you have initiated a paper trail in which you can PROVE they've received the letter (they, or their agent, has to sign for it). And, if you seriously believe ill good will come from this man, and you write that down in the letter, if the guy does go psycho... Well lookie lookie at who just lost their jobs.
People tend to like their jobs :aok
Anyway, I think they're about $4.64 or so for a one ounce letter :rolleyes:
I understand you might be thinking to yourself "I'm talking about a dangerous situation and this fairy advises me to write a letter" but as I understood your post, you're looking to take care of this without lethal force of your own. This is a good way to do it.
Also, keep calling. Take names. Full names. Badge numbers, etc. Write down the dates and times you called along with this information. If someone doesn't seem cooperative, even if they're just saying there's nothing they can do, ask to speak to their supervisor.
And, in the meanwhile, load up your gun and prepare to defend yourself and others, I suppose. Hopefully the certified's will scare people who'd like to retain or possibly advance in their job, but in the meanwhile.... "Do what you've got to do."
Hope everything works out for your town.
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I appreciate the replies gents.
The problem is, and I can certainly understand, is those who have enver experienced this county`s little operation law enforcementwise, is you will get nowhere with them. You rock a boat and you will come under the gun yourself, no matter who you are. That`s just the way it is and has been for a long time.
The sherrif lost his bonding recently and states that "at this late date I don`t think I will be able to acquire bonding." Also seems a pretty substantial amount of money is missing from a county account, etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on. As I said in another thread, I call it Mafia with a badge. It`s ridiculous and seems it is wrapped up from top to bottom and noone has been able to get inside.
At one time I tryed to retain an out of county attorney for a guy I knew that was clearly being had. I contacted five different law firms, explained the situation the best I could. Initialy, one by one, they all agreed to take the case and said it was a pretty clear, cut and dried situation...........till they started taking info and it got to the question of what county. Then , one by one, they all said no way.
One lawyer out of Houston who had agreed to take the case explained it pretty well. He said there was the world. The world had different countries. The U.S. has states inside of the country. The states have different counties....then there is our county, which he said was a whole different world. He said it would be a total waste of time and money to even attempt to do anything with it.
As a little update, our fair parolee rolled in this morning just past 8:00 A.M., hooked up to another guys I/O, 24 ft. boat and trailer and away he went.
County says there is nothing they can do about it because of the domestic dispute situation. I`m certainly no law whizz by any stretch of the imagination, but property belonging to someone else has nothing to do with any domestic situation......period.
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Might be time to give the states attorney general a call, maybe the TX Rangers. ( do they still call them that? ) If you can get enough people to complain to the state attorney general they will have to investigate. Contact a news paper from the nearest large city make an anonomous(sp) tip see if you can get people looking at the situation. They may just send this loser back to the pen to get out from under the microscope.
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Up here if youhave a felony and get caught with a firearm its instant back to jail and then some ... no slap on the paw.
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SIK1 got it right, contact a Ranger. Seriously.
culero (been here before, it was the only thing that worked)
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Jackal, what part of Texas are you in?
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Here in GA, in that kinda situation and if the local SD/PD wasn't doing anything, I'd be looking for a supervisor's number with the GBI.
Isn't it federal law that a convicted felon cannot possess a firearm?
I've known a couple of guys who were on parole for drug charges, and they couldn't even carry a pocket knife. Any weapon on them at all and they went back to the grey bar motel.
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Originally posted by rpm
Jackal, what part of Texas are you in?
Hunt county.
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Good luck Jackal1
I have a bad experiance with trying to get Parole Officers to enforce the law on a parolee in Rains County roght next to you. Violation after violation ,including giving alcohol to minors. When I complained I was treated like the criminal.
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As far as the Tx Rangers go, I think they have been looking into things pretty seriously for a few years now.
One small town in the county has had their entire P.D. completely taken over by the Rangers twice now in the last few years due to corruption/mishandling , etc. Their P.D. has to operate through the county sherrif`s office.
Another update. :)
The friend of mine who owns the property where they were living and a couple of us neighbors have had just about enough of the B.S. A couple of not so delicate discussions later and the parolee has moved most of his belongings and a lot of his wife`s from the resident. About an hour before sunset yesterday he was told that he had until dark to get anything else that he wanted out. He hasn`t shown as of yet. He was also explained that if caught back in the area after that point in time it would be highly frowned upon. Also one of the handguns that he had been carrying around has been purchased from him and sent out of county to be ran and checked out. He ran out of drug money. :)Pretty sure it is stolen. If you get the picture, this cat is not of the Einstein frame of mind.
The wife brought in a crew yesterday afternoon and moved what was left of her belongings also.
We`re not , by any means, convinced that he will not come back for retaliation and /or more theft. Like I said, he`s not too bright, plus he is strung out to the max. We`re keeping as close of an eye on things as possible, especialy between midnight and sunrise which seems to be his favorite shopping time.
I was pretty concerned for the lady who lives next door to them, after the threats were made, since her husband drives a truck and is gone a lot . Myself and my wife went to talk to her. She said that it is the first time since they have lived there that she has ever been concerned. They have lived there around 15 years. She said she hasn`t been sleeping at night. A little spooked. I wanted to reassure her and told her that no matter what time of the day or night it was, if she heard or seen anything she didn`t like to call myself and my neighbor and we would be there in less than five minutes. She is in her sixties and is a small built lady. She got a little grin on her face and told me she wanted to show me something. She came back down the haul lugging a pump 12 ga. riot gun her brother had brought to her. :)
She asked what I thought would be the best thing to do if she heard or saw him prowling around her property again. I told her if he was outside or breaking into the garage or outbuildings again to stay inside, call me, then 911. ( I can beat response time normaly by thirty minutes. I`m less than a minute away) I also told her if a window or door was breeched...........it was open season.
Even though we are working pretty hard to eliminate him from our community, if something is not done he will just be someone else`s worry and i know he is getting pretty
out there.
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Jacakl.
Justa guess are you near Lake Tawakoni?:)
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Originally posted by Shifty
Jacakl.
Justa guess are you near Lake Tawakoni?:)
Yep. :)
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I lived in Point for about 10 years I moved two years ago. One thing about the Tawakoni area. Most of the people are fantastic, but the bad ones are just that. BAD.
Best of luck with your situation , sounds like you guys are getting the upper hand now. Stay safe.:aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
I lived in Point for about 10 years I moved two years ago. One thing about the Tawakoni area. Most of the people are fantastic, but the bad ones are just that. BAD.
Yea, I can`t argue that. There are some realy good folks around and a few bad ones, but I think that applies for just about everywhere.
I picked up a guy and his wife and bike with my bike trailer from Cali who had broke down a couple of years back and took them to Point. They had family there. Can`t remember the their names offhand.
We used to live at Fork quite a few years back. We both worked in Greenville at the time . My wife had the honor of being the very first one to run the stop sign and get pulled over the day they changed from caution light to stop sign on Hwy 69 in Point. :)
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Originally posted by Jackal1
My wife had the honor of being the very first one to run the stop sign and get pulled over the day they changed from caution light to stop sign on Hwy 69 in Point. :)
That is so funny she certainly wasn't the last. I still go through Point often. Barney Fife still works that light hard.:lol
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Looks like the situation is being taken care of. If you still want to try the media route call Becky Oliver at Channel 4 in Dallas. That biatch is a slacking public servants worst nightmare and sweeps is coming up.
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It sounds like the dude is a dirtbag who needs chemical neutering, but it doesn't sound as if he's been CAUGHT doing anything to get rolled-up.
Parole officers cant, don't and wont roll up a state boy because of rumor or alleged suspicious activity. If the po-po nabs dude with a firearm, no question he'll be charged with felon in possession of a firearm and summarily rolled-up.
Otherwise it takes the PO catching him in violation and most PO's couldn't catch their own crap if it fell up... they are just too many cases for them.
If you see him trying to get away with poop, call the cops.. mention hes on parole.. if they catch him screwing up, he's a gonner. If he's living in the same area as where he was 1st arrested, you might try to find the police detective(s) that worked the case. I promise you they'll care, there's not much cops truely care about.. but they HATE putting an A-hole away only to have him catch an eraly release and do more harm. It'd be safe to say at least 1 detective somewhere actually still hates this guy and would do back flips to lock him up, again.
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LOL
The parole officer knows about the guns. He admitted to carrying one to her.
I have no problem with giving the man`s guns back to him or the right for him to have one..........AFTER he serves his time which includes parole.
I also do not expect law enforcement in any area to be personal or public babysitters or protectors. That`s not any officers job and is impossible to do.
I do, however, expect them to do the job they were hired for or in the case of the sherrif, elected to. They have not done this and refuse to do so.
Once again...you rock the boat in this county...you pay the price. Believe me. :)
A couple of points here. The parole officer should never have been placed over this parolee to begin with. He is too violent for any female to be put in such danger. On the other hand ...she should not have accepted the position of being over him if she couldn`t do her job.
As a little update. Things have been pretty interesting around here in the last couple of days to say the least. :)
The friend of mine who owns the property remembered he had an old time friend who is a Texas Constable. There are four Constables in the county. One is MIA. :) Usualy the Constables serve papers/warrant service, etc.
This one has been a Texas law officer for forty years. He knows his stuff. After he came down and talked to us it became
real clear that his opinion of the SO and mine pretty well match. :)
He knows the ins and outs and ways to avoid long, drawn out, go nowhere procedures that will be lost in the shuffle, so to speak.
He drew up papers that had to be served by the property owner and witnessed to the tune of Criminal Trespass, etc. I went along as a witness when the papers were served.
There is a three day waiting period and today is THE day. :) I`ve been sort of tied up the last couple of days and nights. :)
I also went to the property to get a meter number. While I was there I walked by a wooden wishing well. In the wishing well I noticed a new car stereo that had been placed in it. The Constable has it now. :)
Should be interesting to see how this plays out one way or the other.