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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lukster on August 20, 2006, 10:17:55 AM
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Didn't want to hijack Nash's thread about boredom so I'm adding this to a new thread. At least it's fun to speculate what this would mean to all of us before/if it's disproven. What impact do you think this would have on the world? We'll still need oil in current quantities at least for a while. If these guys have discovered what they claim will the oil industry collapse overnight?
http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx
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Would take decades to get rid of oil as a source of energy no matter what. Unless you found something that can be used in a combustion engine without any sort of modification.
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I did not read very far into it, but this line made me stop...
Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient.
Apparently they've rewritten the laws of thermodynamics and invented the perpetual motion machine. Makes them sound like total charlatans to me. But I will say I registered and hope they prove me wrong.
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reads like a scam to me...
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Originally posted by Edbert1
I did not read very far into it, but this line made me stop...
Apparently they've rewritten the laws of thermodynamics and invented the perpetual motion machine. Makes them sound like total charlatans to me. But I will say I registered and hope they prove me wrong.
Like most I remain very skeptical, still, even the slightest possibilty that these guys may have stumbled upon something so earth changing is an exciting prospect. Shouldn't take more than a few weeks for them to be discredited if they're wrong I think.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
reads like a scam to me...
If they were selling something or stood to gain from the attention I wouldn't have given them a second glance.
Someone suggested on their forums that this is nothing but an effort to accumulate email addresses to be sold to spammers. I have to admit I hadn't considered that and it does seem a likely possibility. Oh well, was fun to think about for a bit. That's what I get for reading news sources on Googles "news" page.
Here's their patent application at the US Patent Office site. If this is a scam to collect email addresses it's pretty elaborate and expensive.
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220060066428%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060066428&RS=DN/20060066428
One last thing, if they ever ask for money, run away, fast. ;)
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They give almost no information so it's kinda hard to have a discussion on *what* they have discovered. Assuming this isnt some elaborate scam.
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Free energy?
maybe ask the croatian Nicola Tesla?
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Smells like a hoax if you ask me.
Let's wait and see....
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Does this remind anyone else of the claims of revolution and secrecy that intially surrounded the Segway?
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JUst skiming throught the patent application...sounds like the description of an electric motor, nothing else.
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i believed it until i saw that the company is based in ireland.
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There have been such claims before.
E.g. by Viktor Schauberger.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
JUst skiming throught the patent application...sounds like the description of an electric motor, nothing else.
The difference between an electtric motor and what they claim to have produced is that the rotor in an electric motor changes it's magnetic polarity through the apllication of electrical current while their device does so through the implementation of magnetic shields moved into position with low energy consumption. It sounds like so many other perpetual motion machines.
However they spent $100,000USD on the full page ad in "The Economist" which seems like a lot to spend without doing some preliminary testing on your own.
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It stinks like a scam. All hat and no cattle.
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Maybe they found out how to generate energy from bullsh... Now THAT would be awesome form of energy. :D
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Originally posted by Angus
Smells like a hoax if you ask me.
Let's wait and see....
Angus.. it cant be hoax, there can be free energy, you should know. You have almost free energy in your country... :D
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Everyone repeat after me:
TANSTAAFL.
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THIS (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/15303959.htm) is about as close as you will get to free energy.
Greg Wortham, executive director of the West Texas Wind Energy Consortium, fires up a PowerPoint presentation and throws some hard numbers at the group. By the end of this year, he tells them, Nolan County alone will nearly lead the nation in wind energy production. It'll be second only to the entire state of Texas.
Texas leads the Western Hemisphere in wind energy production, generating enough to power nearly 600,000 homes. This summer, the state surpassed California to become the largest producer of wind energy in the nation.
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Originally posted by lukster
However they spent $100,000USD on the full page ad in "The Economist" which seems like a lot to spend without doing some preliminary testing on your own.
Actually, they say they took out an add in "The Economist". According to wikipedia, no one has seen the ad other than the .pdf on the web site.
Texas leads the Western Hemisphere in wind energy production, generating enough to power nearly 600,000 homes. This summer, the state surpassed California to become the largest producer of wind energy in the nation.
Wind energy is doomed. It kills too many birds for the environmentalists, and the lawyers will tie-up the courts with "wind-rights" disputes for the next 50 years.
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Well I'm not crazy about needing to register for something just so I can read it. So I googled it
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steorn_Free_Energy#The_Challenge
http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_view.asp?menu=A11100&no=312047&rel_no=1&back_url=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn
and a video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1784833525509845733
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Originally posted by Samiam
Wind energy is doomed. It kills too many birds for the environmentalists, and the lawyers will tie-up the courts with "wind-rights" disputes for the next 50 years.
Drive through Tehachapi sometime. ;)
(http://sca21.wikia.com/images/thumb/b/b6/Tehachapi_wind_farm_3.jpg/300px-Tehachapi_wind_farm_3.jpg)
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Originally posted by Furball
i believed it until i saw that the company is based in ireland.
Their doing it all wrong.
Put all the drunk irish on treadmills and hang a bottle of whiskey in front of them. They'll run to that like flies on a ****
Energy problem solved
is tu*r*d a bad word now? it got "edited"
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and the lawyers will tie-up the courts with "wind-rights" disputes for the next 50 years.
What could they possibly dispute? I dont get it.
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Originally posted by Elfie
What could they possibly dispute? I dont get it.
Who could blow the most hot air likely
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Originally posted by Samiam
Wind energy is doomed. It kills too many birds for the environmentalists, and the lawyers will tie-up the courts with "wind-rights" disputes for the next 50 years.
Christ, windows kill too many birds for the environmentalists. No body cares what the environmentalists think.