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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: WilldCrd on August 20, 2006, 05:43:47 PM
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i know this has been brought up before, at least some of it however im gonna bring it up....again :D
First off, Night. id like to have it reimplemented. MAinly for the immersion value of it. i always liked nighttime raids. True you can crank up your gamma on your end but, as i said its for the immersion aspect of the game.
Low level nighttime bomber runs, dogfights where u could barley see the con, it all kicked it up a notch IMNSHO.
Im no programmer but, i was wondering if there was a way to limit or even disable some of the gamma control when we are in a nighttime state?
the old night didnt last very long and I dont think it would "kill" everybody to have a 15 min night as apposed to the dusk/dawn we have now.
2ND is what happened to the tunnels? I used to LOVE the tunnels for gv battles!
I can understand on the newer maps how it may be difficult adding them however, the older maps had them and personally I jwould like them back. I have spoken ingame with many GV'rs both part timers and hardcore and the consesus is we would like them back.
I remember a comment HT said ...awhile back about reinstating night and also stuff like searchlites, that would be sooooooo cool.
Just wondering if maybe HT or pyro could comment on these issues and we could have a discussion about it, kinda like we did back in the good ol' days
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Was never a fan of night, and as I recall about 75% of the players parked there birds and would go eat or something till the morning rolled back around. Very few players flew at night in my experiance.
As for the tunnels that would be nice to have. I would also like to see them get rid of the GV icons so that Enemy planes can not see them like it is for enemy GVs. (I realize it's this way for nme GVs now so they can't range them as easy) It sucks to try and sneak to a base when you have this Huge Icon screaming at the planes above to Bomb Here. I don't do a lot of GVing, mostly up them to kill vulchers. I know I will get frustrated trying to find LTARS. But to me it would make game play a lot better in this area of the game.
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Icon is set to 1.5 , and since monitor is a poor substitute for what the eye can pick up... it's a good compromise.
Bronk
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I remember a comment HT said ...awhile back about reinstating night and also stuff like searchlites, that would be sooooooo cool.
yeah and we could attatch search light to field AK so it looks at plane as it shoots.
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As jumpy the ack is while picking targets, the searchlights would look like hyperactive-seizing-speeding alien fingers twitching nervously throughout the sky
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Night (as much as I want it) wont work in the MA.
PPl will just up their Gamma (You need gamma adjustment for some monitors and Unless I am mistaken ya cant avoid it).
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Very few players flew at night in my experiance.
Sorry but I gotta disagree with ya there hondo, Back when we had night, true some players didnt like it and would take a break BuT, there were still alot of guys who did like it. As I stated mostly for the immersion aspect of the game.
And if i recall from what HT said regarding the searchlites, they werent hooked up to the ack guns they were seperate. as IRL they would scan the sky for taqrgets. I dont know if HT can code them to "lock on" a plane but just the "look" of several searchlites scanning the sky to me would look pretty cool.
Ya cant please all the ppl all the time as most of us know. It would just be nice if night time would be brought back even if at limited times. say 15 mins or so a few times a week even.
I'd just like to see it on occasion. doesnt have to be everyday for loong periods. Im just asking for a little compromise on the issue to try to include the wishes of of a group of players.
The tunnels issue is another thing id like addressed or atleast discussed with HT or pyro If it "cant" be done due to technical issues with the terrain i can understand that. If its just a issue with putting them into the newer maps i can understand that however if that is the case I would like them back on the maps that "used" to have them.
Hitech once said in game that wehn the night issue was brought up in a constructive, formal, adult manner in the form of a request that he would look into reinstating it.
So im formaly requesting HT consider reinstating "some" time to night ops and also address the tunnel request.
My regards-
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OH BTW what fugging tunnels....
Before my time I assume....
Anyone got a pic by chance
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I would recomend everone go offline and set your time to 02:00 and fly around for a bit. AH2 is a vast improvement to AH1 in this regard. Visibility while slightly deminished was still good enough to dogfight in and the skins would be worth something at night as they either made you glow in the moon light (silver/grey skins) or you could actually have a cammo effect (Lanc default) from under the lanc they are almost invisible but over the top of them they arn't hard to pick out.
It's not hard to see the runways or cv for landing either... Over all I don't see why night should be left out of AH2.
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Night time is way better in AH2 ... its no longer that pitch black tab out up your gamma kinda crud ... I dont even have to gamma up anymore .
I vote yes Bring back the Nightlife :aok
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night, hell yeah
tunnels, hell yeah
culero (hell yeah!)
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ITS THA SHIZNAITZ!
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Originally posted by Meatwad
As jumpy the ack is while picking targets, the searchlights would look like hyperactive-seizing-speeding alien fingers twitching nervously throughout the sky
Coool
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how about for night landing lights on the runways like they have at airports. Might not be realistic but it could help.
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I like night. Makes for interesting visual bombing. Maybe searchlights? That would make for some cool screenshots! A 17 framed in a searchlight... and as to the searchlights being jumpy... maybe they could just move a patern until they locked on a target?
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I was one of those that was originally against night, but now I have come to realize something. It was the night that I hated, it was the 1hr long period of dusk and dawn. At full night I could see again, dusk and dawn I usually log off or sit in the tower.
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night was horrible and gamey... dusk and dawn aren't much better. Can you see the reaction of a new guy on a two week trial who fires up the plane for the first time and it's night time? End of AH for him I bet.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by lazs2
dusk and dawn aren't much better.
Wow ! we agree on something !
Sky is falling !
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Night -- don't care. Never flew in it, can't know whether I would like it or not.
Tunnels -- yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. They were annoying when an enemy was camped in one, but it also made things interesting. They were also far better than the current "overpasses" we seem to have now. . . You know, the ones that are virtually invisible when looked at from the side due to their paper-thinness, and yet flip your tank if you hit one edge on.
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Night was not changed because people complained in the BBS. HT could not carre less what 1% of the player population has to say. He probably looked at the server logs, saw that people were loggin off or not flying, and made his decision. Only way it would change if he decides that the game/player base is different now, and he decides to run it as a test.
Have fun asking :lol
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For me anyway, turning up gamma only helps during the dusk & dawn periods. Turning it up during actual night time only made the cockpit and moonlight so bright as to wash everything else out.
I always thought night was cool. But it was a problem if I was playing at high noon local time when the room was lit up on a sunny day. I'd have to close all the curtains and blinds like I was a vampire or something. :D
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This is such a coincidence. For some time now my friends and I have been spending time in an 8 player room flying night missions using the rhine map with snow. We have experimented with cloud etc... and even fly with icons off. The visual effects are amazing. There is a huge full moon, moonlight shimmering off the aircraft and features, the gun flashes in the cockpit are amazing,. It looked so good that even though I am a total newb I decided to try and make a film which is almost finished. Heres the downer.....when you fly at night with no icons obviously the whole game alters. Now it becomes more realistic...no furballs just real hard work. There are alot of guys who love to test there abilities to the max...then there are the guys who just like to dogfight . I have always said that we all pay the same and how we play the game is our own business. If anyone is interested in seeing this film when its finished let me know. I hope to post it with a webserver.
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I loved it when it was dark, made things a lot more interesting and you could take a break from that God-awful glaring Sun. :cool:
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
Night was not changed because people complained in the BBS. HT could not carre less what 1% of the player population has to say. He probably looked at the server logs, saw that people were loggin off or not flying, and made his decision. Only way it would change if he decides that the game/player base is different now, and he decides to run it as a test.
Have fun asking :lol
Its unfortuante you had a bad experience or something. I've always found HT and crew very accessable to all the players. He might not post on the BBS in EVERY thread. But, he does listen, just not to ppl that throw out wild demands and have tempertantrums. Honestly Most ppl wouldnt respond to thos kinds of posts
There have been many things we as players have asked for and gotten. Not everything for obvious reasons. at the time in ah1 many requested night be removed...and it was but, night then and night now is WAY different. ppl have asked for certain planes and...we got em. so your statement that HT doesnt listen to his players is unfounded
The man still has a bussines to run, and alot of work day to day (unless he is gofing off and flying around dallas) IF you really think he doesnt listen, call or email him. Keep in mind tho that any email he sends you "might" need a translator and or a spell checker lol. Personally id go for calling him. half the time he is the one answering the phones anyways
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
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lol, sucking up does not work either. Bad experience? More of a, does it make business sence? Lets say HT has 5000 players and 20 or 30 make a request to change a decision already made. Now unless you think HT is not a smart man, the decision to change night was made based on information and made business sence. So, does he listen? yes, he is not deaf. Does he care that 0.6% of the people (in this example) asked for something? Would you? You already have done your research and made your decision. Would you as a business man do it again? Do it every time less than 1% of your customers ask?
FYI. you have something on your nose. :lol
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That aint sucking up.
Big differnce between starting a serious discussion regarding changes in the game and sucking up.
Theres an old saying "you can catch more flys with honey than you can with vineager"
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
lol, sucking up does not work either. Bad experience? More of a, does it make business sence? Lets say HT has 5000 players and 20 or 30 make a request to change a decision already made. Now unless you think HT is not a smart man, the decision to change night was made based on information and made business sence. So, does he listen? yes, he is not deaf. Does he care that 0.6% of the people (in this example) asked for something? Would you? You already have done your research and made your decision. Would you as a business man do it again? Do it every time less than 1% of your customers ask?
FYI. you have something on your nose. :lol
Do you know this for a fact? or are you like the 6 dozen others who thinks they know exactly why HT does or does not do things? I just love the fact that HT has soooooo many spokes people to represent him.
I believe the initial request was addressed to HT and or Pyro.
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Add searchlights for nite & make them double as manned 88mm guns.
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Do you know this for a fact? or are you like the 6 dozen others who thinks they know exactly why HT does or does not do things? I just love the fact that HT has soooooo many spokes people to represent him.
I believe the initial request was addressed to HT and or Pyro.
Do I know for a fact that HT makes decisions based on what is good for his business (or atlist what he thinks is good) and that he does do some research before making the decisions? :lol No, but I sure hope so or this game will not be around for too long.
Not trying torepresent him. Just saing that if it makes business sence he will do it. What 10 or 20 guys say or ask for is irelevant.
This game is full of people who think they are not irelevant, :rofl
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Well night was kinda fun...4 hours of dusk/dawn is alot worse IMO
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Add searchlights for nite & make them double as manned 88mm guns.
now THAT would add a to the game!! I can see it now, your on your takeoff roll and somebody decides to be cute jumps into a manned ack with a searchlight and decides to "help" you see your plane better by adding some light :rofl
Would also be used to blind the toolshedders comming in with their divebombing lancs, light em up with the searchlights and they cant see what they are bombing plus being shot at!
Im thinking this would force ppl in bombers to clumb to a higher alt to lessen the affect of the flashlight in your eye.
so bringing back the night would have some added benifits, could really cut down on the toolshedders hitting TT or FT .
Id be more than willing to help test this out :cool:
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Well, dusk and dawn are so bad... Id log off, but I have nothing else to do!
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This was my first attempt at a film...coincidentally its at night. some people said that even though their contrast and brilliance was turned up full they still couldnt see it...Strange but anyway the second link is the same film just a lightened version.
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=14072&CID=39242
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=14177&CID=39372