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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 1epic1 on August 20, 2006, 09:20:41 PM
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come on i remember AH without this 200 MPH rule and its getting pretty annoying...im in a dogfight and my wing barley scrapes the ground and i die cause i was over 200 MPH...WTF! I dont want no BS about well pilots would have been scared to crash land at 200, THIS ISNT REAL LIFE! in real life a plane could crash land over 200mph and make it...NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND I WANT IT DISABLED NOW!
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:aok
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(From multiple topics in the past)
Do you have any idea how fast 200MPH is? And no, planes that crash land at 200MPH DO NOT survive.
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wanna bet?...if you had a smooth grass patch of land it is possiable to crash land your plane without much trouble...wait a sec...THIS ISNT REAL LIFE!
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Well then I suppose i'll take my X wing fighter that only I can have, and shoot you down with the uber lasers. It isn't real life, so I can do that right?
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It's because people were getting ditches at warp 5 speeds.
I was getting silly. Shoot a guys wing off and because he was low enough and going in at a slight angle he gets a ditch.
If you were to clip a wing tip at 200 MPH ... It would be like the hand of god reached up slapped you to the ground.
Bronk
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Epic has no clue as to how fast 200 mph really is ... simple as that.
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find a nice flat stretch of road at least 10miles long.
find a fast car.
get going at least 120mph
open door, and smack the ground with your hand.
see how that works out for youl
(and no, don't really do this. I add this in case somebody is dumb 'nuff to actually try it)
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NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND I WANT IT DISABLED NOW!
Holy tempertantrums batgirl!!
A) trying to get something from hitech this way...wont work matter of fact bad things have been known to happen to ppl who DEMAND things this way
B) Do you fly IRL ? as others have asked already "Do you have ANY idea of how fast 200mph really is"?
C) The reason its there as stated already is to put a stop to dweebs trying to ditch so a kill wouldnt be given to the stick that shot their pathetic butts down.
D) if your flying at or even near 200mph and you "scrap" your wing as you put it on the ground you would find in a VERY short amount of time the rest of you would be scraping along the ground becouse your plane would have desintergrated after it scraped, cartwheeled, bounced, cought fire, blew up, and a few other things that happed when a plane CRASHES from its wing "scraping" the ground
E) Dont scrap your wing IE: pull up!
F) lower your gear when landing
G) go slower than 200 mph when landing or "scraping" your wing
H) Fly better
This post is meant mainly as humnor, its a GAME stop being SOOO serious!! and just PLAY
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right it isn't real life, so why bother ditching in the first place:huh
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I've been to 175mph in a car (ferrari spider...), and that is INCREDIBLY ****ING FAST. If a piece of metal (with a large amount of weight attached to it; ie a ***** plane) that isn't designed to make contact with the ground somehow slams into it, BAD things are going to happen.
And no... I don't plan to let anyone drive that fast with me in the car again. You catch up to the cars ahead of you a wee bit too fast for my tastes :eek:
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Originally posted by WMLute
find a nice flat stretch of road at least 10miles long.
find a fast car.
get going at least 120mph
open door, and smack the ground with your hand.
see how that works out for youl
(and no, don't really do this. I add this in case somebody is dumb 'nuff to actually try it)
You don't need a fast car to get to 120 :p I can get my integra (mostly stock still) up there pretty easily. I'm pretty sure my sister's grand prix (gtp) could handle it too. I kinda miss the drive from Toronto to Montreal... never any cops during the week :O
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Originally posted by 1epic1
wanna bet?...if you had a smooth grass patch of land it is possiable to crash land your plane without much trouble...wait a sec...THIS ISNT REAL LIFE!
yeah i want a piece of that action!!
got 50 bucks says your wrong. a plane crash landing at 200mph wont matter if its smooth grass with foam and ping pong balls covering it. :O
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Oh comeon. If you guys will bite on THAT bait, you'll bite on anything!
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Oh comeon. If you guys will bite on THAT bait, you'll bite on anything!
shhhh im trying to get some easy money:noid
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yeah epic ide have to agree wit deez guys on this one, for a few reasons.
1) if u tryed to ditch on a smoothe patch of grass, more than likely some part of the plane would dig in an cause it to go into a violent rotation.
2) if u tryed to come in gear up on a runway the friction would disinegrate the belly of the plane, and possibly ingnite the fuel.
but ur rite its not completely impossible to survive. but AH probably doesnt want to go into all the physics of disiphering who lives an who dies.
an F-15 can fly wit 1 wing, crazy things do happen
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Spey and neuter your kids!
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Silly Lan, dont hit the ground.
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Originally posted by 1epic1
come on i remember AH without this 200 MPH rule and its getting pretty annoying...im in a dogfight and my wing barley scrapes the ground and i die cause i was over 200 MPH...WTF! I dont want no BS about well pilots would have been scared to crash land at 200, THIS ISNT REAL LIFE! in real life a plane could crash land over 200mph and make it...NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND I WANT IT DISABLED NOW!
oh ya the screaming at hitech and demanding getting something changed in the GAME oh ya that works every time. very original!:aok
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Come to Northern California. I'll take you up in a Mooney, which does 200 mph, and usually faster in a dive. We'll go upto 3k, over the ocean, and dive it down. We will do more then 200 mph over the ocean at 50 feet or less. Your bellybutton will be strapped to the nose of a bullet.
And only after, we'll see if you are still complaining.
Wolf
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in Real Life, an aircraft would be ditching as slow as it could fly. A fighter type would probably only ditch if he was too low to bail.
I suggest you go and get yourself an aircarft manual, a pilot's handbook for any type of aircraft. Then look at the suggested speeds for such thing. You can learn alot by reading the pilot's operating handbook.
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Originally posted by 1epic1
THIS ISNT REAL LIFE!
Damn. There goes my day.:cry
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Originally posted by wetrat
I'm pretty sure my sister's grand prix (gtp) could handle it too.
Oh indeed it could... My buddy and I used to have a good time testing out my SHO vs. his GTP... Worked real well until his GTP "scraped" a tree at *just* 75~ mph... Let alone 200 :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Come to Northern California. I'll take you up in a Mooney, which does 200 mph, and usually faster in a dive. We'll go upto 3k, over the ocean, and dive it down. We will do more then 200 mph over the ocean at 50 feet or less. Your bellybutton will be strapped to the nose of a bullet.
And only after, we'll see if you are still complaining.
Wolf
I will take you up on that.
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Originally posted by 1epic1
come on i remember AH without this 200 MPH rule and its getting pretty annoying...im in a dogfight and my wing barley scrapes the ground and i die cause i was over 200 MPH...WTF!t...NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND I WANT IT DISABLED NOW!
OMG!
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I thought the rule was 150mph
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Come to Northern California. I'll take you up in a Mooney, which does 200 mph, and usually faster in a dive. We'll go upto 3k, over the ocean, and dive it down. We will do more then 200 mph over the ocean at 50 feet or less. Your bellybutton will be strapped to the nose of a bullet.
And only after, we'll see if you are still complaining.
Wolf
(http://www.cscoa.org/Images/Hard-Ass%20White%20line3.jpg)
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Come to Northern California. I'll take you up in a Mooney, which does 200 mph, and usually faster in a dive. We'll go upto 3k, over the ocean, and dive it down. We will do more then 200 mph over the ocean at 50 feet or less. Your bellybutton will be strapped to the nose of a bullet.
And only after, we'll see if you are still complaining.
Wolf
Wolf,
On behalf of epic and all the other doubters here on the BBS, I accept your offer for such a ride. I'm sure we'll prove your point quite well. It is my understanding that there is no expiration date on this offer, and your speed brakes are guaranteed to be in good working order before the flight.
Thank you for your contribution to this issue. I look forward to working with you.
:D
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How wrong, and on how many levels, can one person manage to be?
"DEMAND", huh? That's a hoot-n-a-half...
Geeeeze, Francis...:rolleyes:
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I'm waiting for epic's (Lan's) ...
"This game is BS ,it sucks I'm going to go play WW2OL. Because it's far superior." post.
OOOOPS... almost forgot, he already did that.
Bronk
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I'm not sure it's the 200mph rule that got you, I'd suggest not hitting the ground with your wing.
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What sucks now isn't so much the speed limit, but the fact that you can't land anymore with a wingtip missing. It used to be very possible before, if you came in VERY gently, using flaps, and belly landed. You had to belly land because gear in most planes doesn't come down fast enough. If you slow down you dont' have enough lift and you crash.
I tried coming in with a Ki84 missing a wingtip sometime in the past 2 weeks. I was perfectly in control. I was trimmed, had my stick and rudder set. I was coming in perfectly on the runway. I was doing about 175. Too fast for gear or flaps. So I'm slowing down and getting low. I check my VSI and I'm only barely descending. I touch down and *POOF*
I'm in the tower. wtf!
I didn't even kill the prop, just instant *POOF*-age.
I think we've gone to the other extreme (far too sensitive, as opposed to far too forgiving). We need to be able to bring wounded birds back home.
Maybe have it so that higher ditch speeds are allowed on runays? Descent rate limits are the same but you can touch down faster because it's a hardened surface and you don't dig in and cartwheel or anything.
Whatever the idea, we need a little more than we can currently do.
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Funny .. I landed a half winger not more than 2 nights ago.
Guess I just got lucky
Bronk
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must be
out of curiousity, what plane was it?
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Was a corsair.
Bronk
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Originally posted by WMLute
find a nice flat stretch of road at least 10miles long.
find a fast car.
get going at least 120mph
open door, and smack the ground with your hand.
see how that works out for youl
(and no, don't really do this. I add this in case somebody is dumb 'nuff to actually try it)
Well well -- If Fred Flinstone can do it - then we should be able to do it in AH !!!!!
Newbs
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Originally posted by WMLute
find a nice flat stretch of road at least 10miles long.
find a fast car.
get going at least 120mph
open door, and smack the ground with your hand.
see how that works out for youl
(and no, don't really do this. I add this in case somebody is dumb 'nuff to actually try it)
You owe me a arm...damn hand went into the ground and i fell outta the car did a superman then the same arm went into the ground again and tore it off...blood everywhere...car made it though so yea where was i??? OH YEAH! get rid of the 200 MPH rule
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Was it your flying hand? If so it really wouldn't matter about the uber 200 rule.
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Originally posted by Enduro
Wolf,
On behalf of epic and all the other doubters here on the BBS, I accept your offer for such a ride. I'm sure we'll prove your point quite well. It is my understanding that there is no expiration date on this offer, and your speed brakes are guaranteed to be in good working order before the flight.
Thank you for your contribution to this issue. I look forward to working with you.
:D
Sadly,
No spoilers on a M201 :)
Gonna have to grin and bear it without that cushy feature of the Ovation or Eagles.
Wolf
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Hey.. any of you seen the footage of, I think, the 737 that was highjaked but dried to ditch in the ocean after running outta fuel?
No 200MPH rule or Hollywood bullchit for those poor buggers :(
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Originally posted by 1epic1
OH YEAH! get rid of the 200 MPH rule
This is a good indication to keep the ditch model ...just the way it is.
Bronk
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Originally posted by 1epic1
wanna bet?...if you had a smooth grass patch of land it is possiable to crash land your plane without much trouble...wait a sec...THIS ISNT REAL LIFE!
I have seen about 10-15 gearups in the past 20 years and I can tell
you absolutely that grass is your worst option for ditching. Amazingly
enough the aircraft that gear up on the runway usually only suffer some
paint loss and the boarding step gone. I admit to not
seeing any highwing gearups, so cannot comment on those.
Now these were not anywhere near 200 mph, most closer to 1/3 that
speed. If you are ditching at 200 mph, you have clearly lost control of your
aircraft and have no reason to cry when it goes pow. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by 1epic1
come on i remember AH without this 200 MPH rule and its getting pretty annoying...im in a dogfight and my wing barley scrapes the ground and i die cause i was over 200 MPH...WTF! I dont want no BS about well pilots would have been scared to crash land at 200, THIS ISNT REAL LIFE! in real life a plane could crash land over 200mph and make it...NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS FEATURE AND I WANT IT DISABLED NOW!
chill out lan
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Go away Lan.
:huh
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200 would be wrong to let go. but belly landin and ending up in "front of a hanger "on grass and getting ditch is wrong also. tanks can tower out in field ,and get sucsessful landing ,away from field .why not plane when
on a field? pilot can walk away and is on his own field and gets ditch, is wrong also.
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Originally posted by LYNX
Hey.. any of you seen the footage of, I think, the 737 that was highjaked but dried to ditch in the ocean after running outta fuel?
No 200MPH rule or Hollywood bullchit for those poor buggers :(
Amazingly some survived!
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Originally posted by jon
200 would be wrong to let go. but belly landin and ending up in "front of a hanger "on grass and getting ditch is wrong also. tanks can tower out in field ,and get sucsessful landing ,away from field .why not plane when
on a field? pilot can walk away and is on his own field and gets ditch, is wrong also.
You put 1 .303 round in any gv and stay within 6k.... if he is not on cement he gets a ditch when he towers.
Bronk
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Originally posted by wetrat
You don't need a fast car to get to 120 :p I can get my integra (mostly stock still) up there pretty easily. I'm pretty sure my sister's grand prix (gtp) could handle it too. I kinda miss the drive from Toronto to Montreal... never any cops during the week :O
I got the family 2001 Saturn up to 110 before I ran out of strait road before. I was supirsed I got it over 90 without if vibrating apart.
(P.S. if my unlce reads this please pretend you didnt. :) )
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Originally posted by jon
200 would be wrong to let go. but belly landin and ending up in "front of a hanger "on grass and getting ditch is wrong also. tanks can tower out in field ,and get sucsessful landing ,away from field .why not plane when
on a field? pilot can walk away and is on his own field and gets ditch, is wrong also.
IIRC, HT remarked in the past that landing has to have some sort of challenge and reward, otherwise everyone would just prang it within the confines of the field instead of going to the trouble of actually landing like a normal, rational pilot who knew his crew might snap and kill him if he tore up their plane.
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Do y'all remember when I posted in the wish list that we need a tissue box in the tower, or maybe a .tissue soandso command? "System: Kurt offers Epic a tissue"
And nobody took me seriously...
Well, I hope you're all proud of yourselves!
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Originally posted by Kurt
Do y'all remember when I posted in the wish list that we need a tissue box in the tower, or maybe a .tissue soandso command? "System: Kurt offers Epic a tissue"
And nobody took me seriously...
Well, I hope you're all proud of yourselves!
:rofl You've got my vote.
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Originally posted by WMLute
find a nice flat stretch of road at least 10miles long.
find a fast car.
get going at least 120mph
open door, and smack the ground with your hand.
see how that works out for youl
(and no, don't really do this. I add this in case somebody is dumb 'nuff to actually try it)
i fell out of a car doing 60mph once wasn't fun :t
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fell or were pushed? :lol
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Originally posted by 332nd outlaw
i fell out of a car doing 60mph once wasn't fun :t
I dumped a bike while going about 65mph. That was a biotch, too. :(
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Originally posted by Krusty
What sucks now isn't so much the speed limit, but the fact that you can't land anymore with a wingtip missing. ...
I did this last week :)
One Wing Landing (http://webpages.charter.net/davegun/Pics/OneWingLanding.zip)
The trick is to slow down without loosing control.
Gunner
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I have that one beat.
Try putting a wounded one wing Hog down at a VH base on the VH pad. Best thing about it was the 3 kills were LTARS :) :) :)
VH Base one wing landing (http://rapidshare.de/files/30419598/good_landing_missing_wing_tip.ahf.html)
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Originally posted by Krusty
What sucks now isn't so much the speed limit, but the fact that you can't land anymore with a wingtip missing.
landed a 190 in the main arena tonite in that condition....
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Lan will never change, no matter which name he choose.