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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazaa on August 21, 2006, 10:49:49 AM
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Is there any chance of HTC creating a modern day flight simulator/game in the forseeable future?
Gosh that would be the best :aok
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I'd like to see Cold War Era rather than modern IMO
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Based on some of HT's comments on this subject I would say that the chance is pretty slim.
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Originally posted by Nightshift82
I'd like to see Cold War Era rather than modern IMO
:huh
what would we do? fly around and watch the enemy? posture?
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
:huh
what would we do? fly around and watch the enemy? posture?
Korea.
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Gosh that would be the best :aok
Golly Beav , don't be such a goof.:aok
Your right that would be fun.
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I've always been dreaming of Aces High - Vietnam. I was so happy when Kesmai announced that they were developing AW-Vietnam before EA killed 'em.
I can't wait to strap on an F4 Phantom, catapult off a CV deck at break-neck speeds & kick some Bish arse with that big, twin-jet beast.
O, please HTC--make it happen! :D
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radar lock on target....
missle away...
next radar blip....
lock on...
fire missle....
next...
for me personally playing a combat sim where i rarely even see the enemy
sounds like a bore. i'll stick to WW2 sims thanks.
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Originally posted by soupcan
radar lock on target....
missle away...
next radar blip....
lock on...
fire missle....
next...
for me personally playing a combat sim where i rarely even see the enemy
sounds like a bore. i'll stick to WW2 sims thanks.
well, i'm not sure that Vietnam era missiles were as perfect as you describe. but, to each his own.
seeing your "Registered" date just now...you may be new to this community (welcome!). many of us have been around since before Y2K. we could use a little variety here, and HTC would be the company to do it right.
i am sure that there could be much more to the sim than the missiles, btw. :)
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Wait a min I thought kazaa was dead!!! I killed his tiger a couple weeks ago "along with his freinds bru and hammy" and havent seen him since! but anywho kazaa m8 were u been long time no see how are things???
kazaa:aok
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Originally posted by goldelks
Wait a min I thought kazaa was dead!!! I killed his tiger a couple weeks ago "along with his freinds bru and hammy" and havent seen him since! but anywho kazaa m8 were u been long time no see how are things???
kazaa:aok
Yeah I know, I've not been on here for like 2 weeks or so.
I've been hard at work college, got to get the skills to pay the bills mate
:D
Yeah I got totaly owned in my tiger when you done that little smoke trick.
But I seem to remember me nad bruv killed you more then a handful of times before that ;)
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1. So you like my own lil smoke trick"I thought of it my self" lol
2. Schools no fun!!
3. No dur you killed me a few times, thats ussuly happends when u spawn camp goldie couse I have to break it. lol
4. I belive I gave you and your squadmates fair warning to RTB or die, actully i belive i said, "Kazza bruv and hammy you have 3 min to return to your respetive bases or you will die."
So i did warn u lol and im glad you liked me smoke trick it works quite well.
well Kazza
P.S. Stay in school "insert picture of uncle sam here"
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I second the Korea motion.....................
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
:huh
what would we do? fly around and watch the enemy? posture?
Vietnam
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MiGs must die.
culero (smokers!)
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Originally posted by Deth7
I second the Korea motion.....................
Korea has already been done. We had a Korea theatre in Air Warrior--no one ever used it.
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Great I would love to be vulched by missles fired 10k away.:eek:
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Originally posted by Enduro
I can't wait to strap on an F4 Phantom, catapult off a CV deck at break-neck speeds & lick some Bish arse with that big, twin-jet beast.
O, please HTC--make it happen! :D
What the??
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I think he meant kick* but that looks really really bad dont it?
This sounds like a Falcon 4 Allied Force concept and it really is the best battlefield operations game going. You cant vultch from ten miles though because the ground reflections confuse the electronics but if you think bnz in AH is boring then the 8 versus 8 versus 8 versus 8 dogfight servers are for you! Never a moment to draw a breathe so you can never find the time to even consider getting bored even in a guns only scenario.
CBUs are the best! :aok
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Air Warrior had a Korean War theater. In my opinion:
It was dull. Doing a 360 degree turn takes very long. Ranges to target are very long. Basically, everything is chasing around little dots and then having a slow-motion dogfight at extreme range.
Also, I wasn't the only one who thought it was dull -- as already mentioned, no one used the Korean War theater in Air Warrior. It just wasn't nearly as much fun as WWII.
More-modern jets would be even worse.
The golden age of combat -- best possible mix of plane performance and dogfighting -- is, in my opinion, WWII.
Rather than any effort at other periods, I'd rather just see the effort put into the WWII aspect.
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Originally posted by Brooke
Air Warrior had a Korean War theater. In my opinion:
It was dull. Doing a 360 degree turn takes very long. Ranges to target are very long. Basically, everything is chasing around little dots and then having a slow-motion dogfight at extreme range.
Also, I wasn't the only one who thought it was dull -- as already mentioned, no one used the Korean War theater in Air Warrior. It just wasn't nearly as much fun as WWII.
More-modern jets would be even worse.
The golden age of combat -- best possible mix of plane performance and dogfighting -- is, in my opinion, WWII.
Rather than any effort at other periods, I'd rather just see the effort put into the WWII aspect.
Well, true, no one ever used the Korean War Theatre... But, then again, what did it have over the WW2 theatres? 2 planes? Get out some super corsairs, bearcats, etc. etc. and you might see some more interest...
I'm all for WW2 being done to completion first (all planes possible, etc., etc.,) and will probably always favor the arena... But it WOULD be nice to have a "last days of the prop" arena too, with maybe the F86 etc. perked.
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Jets are boring.
WWI might be interesting though.
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Originally posted by bozon
Jets are boring.
WWI might be interesting though.
There was actually a decent following in the WW1 arena, from what I recall. Probably a bit larger then the current one in our AvA arena.
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Originally posted by Enduro
I've always been dreaming of Aces High - Vietnam. I was so happy when Kesmai announced that they were developing AW-Vietnam before EA killed 'em.
I can't wait to strap on an F4 Phantom, catapult off a CV deck at break-neck speeds & kick some Bish arse with that big, twin-jet beast.
O, please HTC--make it happen! :D
HTC should 'AH' Wings Over Vietnam.. a must if you like F4's
(http://members.dslextreme.com/users/fanofhockey/wov/wov1.jpg)
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Originally posted by palef
What the??
Palef!!! You sick bastage! :rofl
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The problem with WWI was the upper wing. You have no view forward and up, which is one of the most-used views in a dogfight. It wasn't all that fun.
In terms of popularity in Air Warrior, which had both a Korea and a WWI arena, if the main arena attendence was 100, Korea was about a 0-1, and WWI was about a 1-2.
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Originally posted by Enduro
Palef!!! You sick bastage! :rofl
Lol - took you long enough. I'm sorry (but not very much) that I've been rolling in the aisle at your expense.
Thanks for the entertainment. :aok
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Originally posted by palef
Lol - took you long enough. I'm sorry (but not very much) that I've been rolling in the aisle at your expense.
Thanks for the entertainment. :aok
One day, you will see--my revenge will be oh so sweet. :D
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Real men fly propellers drink afgas and listen piston music ;)
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I'd like to see a Spanish Civil War era. Still a few bipes out there and stuff like the P-36, I-16 and such.
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Originally posted by Enduro
Korea has already been done. We had a Korea theatre in Air Warrior--no one ever used it.
Myself and maybe 30 others flew in there all the time enduro. I spoke with HiTech at the convention about an arena with jets like Korea. Right now, their focus is on getting Combat tour out to the public. They also felt that the draw for such an arena ( Korea, Vietnam ) was not as great than the current arenas. I'm just passing on what was said to me. Actually, I really miss all the fighting of Sabers and Migs.
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I played Wings Over Vietnam on-line most of last summer. Maybe x0847Marine can tell you too. It's hard to get a kill with an Vietnam era AIM9, or AIM7. especially in full realism mode. The biggest complaint I had was the servers. Getting dumped leaft and right , or having your squadmates or enemies dumped constantly sucked.
If Hitech did a Vietnam era flightsim............... I'd hit It!:aok
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I suspect modern aviation technology is a little bit beyond what dale and crew would want to manage and I doubt they would want to anyway considering how difficult a time they have had with combat tour...
Anyhow....Ive always believed they (HTC) could (without breaking the bank) make a couple of WW1 biplanes, a sopwith and a Dr1, and have an arena just for that and then have an F86 vs mig15 thing with an arena for just that.....they could pretty much do that with their current technology and crew and in so doing capture pretty much the entire MMOG flight sim crowd but again...based on the incredibly slow pace of the AH2 game development and Combat tour....I doubt we will see much progress on the current game let alone any new additions beyond ww2.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I suspect modern aviation technology is a little bit beyond what dale and crew would want to manage and I doubt they would want to anyway considering how difficult a time they have had with combat tour...
Anyhow....Ive always believed they (HTC) could (without breaking the bank) make a couple of WW1 biplanes, a sopwith and a Dr1, and have an arena just for that and then have an F86 vs mig15 thing with an arena for just that.....they could pretty much do that with their current technology and crew and in so doing capture pretty much the entire MMOG flight sim crowd but again...based on the incredibly slow pace of the AH2 game development and Combat tour....I doubt we will see much progress on the current game let alone any new additions beyond ww2.
Dude you're so Air Warrior DOS.:D
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Originally posted by 1ijac
Myself and maybe 30 others flew in there all the time enduro. I spoke with HiTech at the convention about an arena with jets like Korea. Right now, their focus is on getting Combat tour out to the public. They also felt that the draw for such an arena ( Korea, Vietnam ) was not as great than the current arenas. I'm just passing on what was said to me. Actually, I really miss all the fighting of Sabers and Migs.
Yeah, F86 was my most favorite AW plane.
culero
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Originally posted by Shifty
Dude you're so Air Warrior DOS.:D
lol. I was thinking the same thing when I read Yeager's post. I thought, "Man, get out of Air Warrior mode, man!" :D
Yeager
But....why should HTC re-create what Kesmai had already given us years ago?!?
I honestly believe that, if a multi-player jet combat sim were done properly (like AH2 has done for the WWII crowd), people would join. Or, better yet, those who feign disinterest today would probably try it out and discover that they actually do like it. They'd end up flying in AH2 some nights. Then, they'd be flying the jet combat sim on other nights. Part of their regular "play time" smorgasbord.
1ijac,
Thanks for your input re: your discussion. Dale just doesn't know, yet, how much he wants to build a jet combat sim, though. ;)
If he builds it, they will come.[/b] :D
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Some new fighters at Muroc Dry lake bed. New super secret fighter. The new F-86 (and no it's not MS FS) hehehe
(http://muddyleg.homeip.net/f861.JPG)
(http://muddyleg.homeip.net/f862.JPG)
Phaser11
Flight test
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"radar lock on target....
missle away...
next radar blip....
lock on...
fire missle....
next..."
That was the promise of the missile age, but it never delivered, certainly not in the 1956-1991 period anyways.
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correct me if i'm wrong but i believe the original
thread said "modern" not vietnam.
that is what i was responding to with the....
lock on... fire and forget comments.
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Problem is, nobody would want to fly for Vietnam. It would just be F-4's buzzing around looking for that one guy in the MiG. Notice how not one supportive post here is by a guy who'd fly for North Korea or Vietnam. They all imagine being in the F-86 or F-4, but who they imagine they would fly against is beyond me.
Alternatively, it would just be F-4s fighting other F-4s if done like the AH MA.
I think either would be boring as hell.
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Goldy you still are incorrect you never killed me on that run.
You sat right opposite the ridge trying to creep over it but not being successful in getting a shot on me Wareagle flanked me and got a shot in before i could swing my turret around.
Plus you must have died about 8 times before killing the others :)
Bruv
PS: I know kazaa has been bittin by a jet sim but
"Airwar Died with the Prop"
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Originally posted by Karnak
Problem is, nobody would want to fly for Vietnam. It would just be F-4's buzzing around looking for that one guy in the MiG. Notice how not one supportive post here is by a guy who'd fly for North Korea or Vietnam. They all imagine being in the F-86 or F-4, but who they imagine they would fly against is beyond me.
Alternatively, it would just be F-4s fighting other F-4s if done like the AH MA.
I think either would be boring as hell.
Woh! Hold up a sec. AH2 has German a/c, Japanese a/c, Italian a/c and American a/c, yet NONE of us fly for any of those countries. lol. AH-Vietnam would have the aircraft of the era, but no one would fly for one Nation or the other (except maybe in scenarios).
And, the fact that one a/c is less desirable than the rest doesn't seem to keep us from flying the P-40 from time-to-time, does it? :D
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Originally posted by Karnak
Problem is, nobody would want to fly for Vietnam. It would just be F-4's buzzing around looking for that one guy in the MiG. Notice how not one supportive post here is by a guy who'd fly for North Korea or Vietnam. They all imagine being in the F-86 or F-4, but who they imagine they would fly against is beyond me.
Alternatively, it would just be F-4s fighting other F-4s if done like the AH MA.
I think either would be boring as hell.
I'll usually bow to your WWII aircraft wisdom Karnak. However I can't agree with you on this one. Just based on my multiplayer experiance in Wings Over Vietnam. There were plenty of guys who flew the Mig-17, and Mig-21. They kicked prettythang. Also don't forget there are US birds besides F4's. The F8, and F105.:)
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Not one post here is oohing and ahing over anything other than the F-86 for Korea or the F-4 for Vietnam. Not even any other American birds, let alone Russian birds.
The North Korean and Vietnamese air forces do not have any of the mystique that the Luftwaffe, or even the Imperial Japanese air forces, have.
The speeds also aren't very condusive to a MMOG as view distances are kinda short.
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you just have to look at the name "Aces High"
how many aces (5 kills or more) were there in korea, vietnam, since?
how many aces did the countries that fought in ww2 have total?
there is your answer ..
not to mention a2a in jets is about as exciting as watching grass grow
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Holy Prop-snobs Batman! :lol
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Originally posted by Shifty
I played Wings Over Vietnam on-line most of last summer. Maybe x0847Marine can tell you too. It's hard to get a kill with an Vietnam era AIM9, or AIM7. especially in full realism mode. The biggest complaint I had was the servers. Getting dumped leaft and right , or having your squadmates or enemies dumped constantly sucked.
If Hitech did a Vietnam era flightsim............... I'd hit It!:aok
Word.. WOV is a fun game, but its lacking in many areas. Love the truck busting mission where the enemy migs show up...
I think if HT et al threw some of that AH mojo code at WOV... same planes / flight model but add AH style game play... that would be cool.
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ya but jets with air brakes are a whole nother story....i miss my mig-15....
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Originally posted by Karnak
Problem is, nobody would want to fly for Vietnam. It would just be F-4's buzzing around looking for that one guy in the MiG. Notice how not one supportive post here is by a guy who'd fly for North Korea or Vietnam. They all imagine being in the F-86 or F-4, but who they imagine they would fly against is beyond me.
Alternatively, it would just be F-4s fighting other F-4s if done like the AH MA.
I think either would be boring as hell.
Well F that! I'd take you all on with my Mig-21! Bring it! hehe....I'd run outta fuel pretty fast tho :)
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there would be alot of people to fly north korean and veitnamese just like there is plunty of people flying bf 109s 110s c.205s and others i would fly a MiG
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there would be alot of people to fly north korean and veitnamese just like there is plunty of people flying bf 109s 110s c.205s and others i would fly a MiG