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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: the_spud on August 23, 2006, 10:43:45 PM
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I'm just wondering, what is your favorite plane/ammo combination for taking out tanks? I'm trying to figure out a good outfit to take up when the airbase is under gv attack or I just feel the need to flatten some tank that I see motoring along.
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Originally posted by the_spud
I'm just wondering, what is your favorite plane/ammo combination for taking out tanks? I'm trying to figure out a good outfit to take up when the airbase is under gv attack or I just feel the need to flatten some tank that I see motoring along.
As long as you spend some time practicing the Fw190F8 with the center line bomb and 12 rockets works great.
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I think the 109 could work too with the center bomb. Its enough ordenance in real life, not sure about the game though.
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A-20 has a large bomb load of useful bombs (8x500lb?)
IL2 is the best anti tank aircraft in game.
(http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/RAM/il-2-11.jpg)
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C202 for me.
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Originally posted by Furball
A-20 has a large bomb load of useful bombs (8x500lb?)
IL2 is the best anti tank aircraft in game.
(http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/RAM/il-2-11.jpg)
How about this:
Wait, ill find it...
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I use the mosquito, good climbing speed with 50% fuel (lasts 30mins) and 4x500lb (or 2x500lb and 8 rox), great bombing precision even with 1 wing bomb left (500lb can kill a tiger if droped well), and 4x20mm in the nose for flaks and M16's.
And in bonus you can defend yourself against fighters.
IL2 is very great because of its toughness and guns that can damage a pzr (good luck with hispanos) for every else aspects I prefer the mossie.
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Stuka carrying the big one
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Il2. You can easily nail 3-6 additional panzer after dropping your bombs using the 23mm cannons.
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stuka will sure do the job but you'll need to rearm between each kill lol
the mossir can kill 4 pzrs without being once in their MG range.
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c202 can ram panzers and stay alive
infact, every plane can
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A20 with the 8x500lb loadout works best for me. It takes a little time to climb out to a good dive bombing altitude but works real well. Of course there's the little problem that it tends to blow up when hit. Anyone else notice the A20 seems to either keep flying or blow up? When I attack one I seldom just "wound" it (i.e., shooting off wingtips, setting it afire, etc), it just seems to blow up easily sort of the way the Zeke likes to burn.
Mace
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Nothing like a game of panzer plinking in a hurri 2d.
Bronk
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Soooo many options.
All around, IL2 is the best in the game. Heavy armor, bombs, rockets, and they're not bad dogfighters in a pinch. There's a reason they're the #1 choice for base defense when fighter hangars are porked.
A20 is nice, but once the bombs are gone, MGs are not gonna do the job. They do feel really nice to fly though, and a good pilot can terrorize little fighters with BnZ tactics. I like to think of it as an even more massive Jug.
Stuka with the moab makes it hard to miss. Getting there can suck though. It's also the best choice for scorepotatos farming points/perks/hit% from factories. Though, to be fair, a GV in a city will give even more points/perks/hit% :)
Mossie is not bad, but not great. il2 23mm > mossie 20mm hispanos for AT role. Gets you there faster than anything else though, and, imho for an average pilot, a better chance of surviving encounters with fighters than the other options.
The ultimate solution: Lanc's with 4k/1k bombs or mostly 2k bombs. There's really no substitute for carpet bombing tank town with massive ord. They'll just spawn, you'll probably die on the way home, and you can rinse-repeat... and get nasty messages on 200 & private for being a dweeb. Then, you laugh at them.
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I prefere the 110 with 30mm, 20mm, four 50kg bombs, and two 500kg bombs. Once bombs are gone, I use the cannons to track the tanks. With a little skill, even a tiger can be tracked.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Nothing like a game of panzer plinking in a hurri 2d.
Bronk
Seems most overlook the IID. Its hands down my favorite tankbuster, especially Tigers.:aok
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Originally posted by indy007
The ultimate lameness: Lanc's with 4k/1k bombs or mostly 2k bombs. There's really no talent in carpet bombing tank town with massive ord.
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Boston3....no formation just like the a20 4 less bombs but it climbs good and dives well...
im not kidding
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I think for me it depends on the situation and the mood I'm in. I really like the 190F8, but I'm not so good with the rockets unless I'm shooting at soft vehicles (I landed 6 PT kills just using rockets once). The 500kg bomb will take out a Tiger. I like the 110G2 for the 2x 500kg, and if I'm feeling lucky and there's only PZs and Osties out, I might even take up a 110C4b for the perkies. If there's many cons, definitely the Il2 with the 6 100kg package - drop the 100kg bombs in pairs bracketing the gv and you'll get him every time. Once again, rockets only for soft vehicles (the Il2's rockets are HE, not AP like the 190F8's), and shoot the tanks from behind with your 23mms. Don't even bother with the 7.62s - they will throw off your aim and give you false hits. But hey, this is just for me, and different things work for different people. Practice offline dropping on the vehicles sitting on the airfield to improve your skills and find your niche.
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Originally posted by Slash27
Didn't say it took any appreciable talent. In general, popping GVs doesn't take much skill. Dive, drop ord, tank go boom. Make strafing runs until the cannons go dry, and fly home. Only time it gets difficult is when Zazen or LTARs are throwing up a flak wall.
Like I said, the fastest way to flatten large amounts GVs is with a Lanc & massive ord. Lame, yes. Rampant dweebery, yes. Score whoring, probably. Will you get flamed on 200 & private msgs? Most definately. That's how you know it's so effective (and gamey).
I will note that I don't personally do that. I haven't flown a buff in a long time. However, I have flown escort for people that do engage in dweebery. They attract enemy fighters like moths to a flame, and I get to fight, so I don't complain.
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IL-2.
A killer.
kick them Panzers on their rear with those 23mm's and they smoke.
The kills pop up a tad later :D
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I like to take a minimum of fuss, found that the dora with center bomb works great on tigers if you hit em directly, or if im feeling gritty I like the hurri with the 40mm's, as a couple to the tracks of will at-least stop the bloody things.:furious
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Originally posted by TankBstr
...(the Il2's rockets are HE, not AP like the 190F8's)...
I am about 93% sure that the Panzer Blitz 1 rockets that the 190F8 has are actually a HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) round. But I have not heard back from the man (HT, et al) if strike angle is modeled in game. I have a few films of me killing tiggers with just the rockets. Against flaks though it seems much harder and not just because they are shooting at me ;) Once you get a feel for the rockets you can land solid hits from 1.5k out which is nice vs M16's. Just use the TA for the PIMP (Point of IMPact sight) ;)
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Originally posted by stephen
I like to take a minimum of fuss, found that the dora with center bomb works great on tigers if you hit em directly, or if im feeling gritty I like the hurri with the 40mm's, as a couple to the tracks of will at-least stop the bloody things.:furious
Dont aim for the tracks with 40mm. Shoot them in the top of the turret or in the ass.:aok
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if ords are up A20/mossie/ spit 16 (the spit has 3 bombs and climbs real quick easily adjust on target to provide a laser guided drop...)
ords down IL2 or my fav hurri2D
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My current favorite is the Ju-88, I killed 4 panzers and a Tiger last night in just a few minutes. They were attacking my base, so I just flew over to the spawn point and there was a mess of panzers just sitting there. Even the Tiger can't take a 500 kg bomb. The 50 kg work really good on the panzers if you drop a salvo.
The most suprising thing was, when I landed it and looked at the points, I got 19 just for that sortie! Don't know how it came out to that but I'm not complaining.:)
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B5N...
dont laugh, its true.
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I say go with 190f8 with center bomb and 4 little ones....set salvo to 2 with the little ones and you can get 3 gvs pretty easily in 3 passes....although I would recommend only using the little ones on flaks and m3s or m8s if your just dropping 2 at a time...drop all 4 of them for a tank....just in my experience
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hurri 40mm a good pick, even if it doeasnt kill gv outright it at-least can stop them.
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the il2 is my favorite tank killer it was feared my german ground forces and had a key part in defeating the germans
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Originally posted by zorstorer
I am about 93% sure that the Panzer Blitz 1 rockets that the 190F8 has are actually a HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) round. But I have not heard back from the man (HT, et al) if strike angle is modeled in game. I have a few films of me killing tiggers with just the rockets. Against flaks though it seems much harder and not just because they are shooting at me ;) Once you get a feel for the rockets you can land solid hits from 1.5k out which is nice vs M16's. Just use the TA for the PIMP (Point of IMPact sight) ;)
Do you or anyone else have a sight for the F8 with a dot for the rockets for use at X range at Y angle at Z altitude? I can't get anyone to get out of the MA long enough to be a target for me in the TA.
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mossie just rulez
In dive its on rails like the spit16 that bruv used. Climb 2-3k over target (it climbs good even with full ordonance), and watch for 40mm rounds coming to you when you are slow !!!
You can get a panzer in a single bomb with good drops. Tigers are another story, even in pinpoint 500lb will not make it explode straight...most of the time.
Flaks are the main dish...keep it fast and don't align too early with the nmy flak, like noobs coming straight to your flak at 1.5K...yummy. Be sure to be aligned at d800 and not before (not on MY flak, keep coming straight to me at 2k hehe) When bombs (and/or rockets) are out, you still have the honorable 4x20mm hispano in the nose to kill what comes around (M3's, Bombers, Cruisers....)
50% fuel will give you a 30min ride if you feel like going elsewhere after)
but watchout the mossie is made of matches so 1 hit could make him turn into a fireball (explain my whyyyyyyyyy) or you'll get wounded (your choice really). So I would recommmend you to fly it like a pure Boom and Zoom plane and not get excited over its apparently good turns (you'll know when you'll do a flat spin).And I wouldn't use flaps in combat, also for flat spin issues.
BUT when ordonnance and/or fighter hangars are down, you'll fly an IL2 like everyone....high velocity 22mm is THE gun to kill gvs without ord.
(who am I talking to ?)
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Originally posted by TankBstr
Do you or anyone else have a sight for the F8 with a dot for the rockets for use at X range at Y angle at Z altitude? I can't get anyone to get out of the MA long enough to be a target for me in the TA.
I just use a red dot for a sight on all my planes.
But here is what I do and it seems to work.
I have the dot moved up in my sight to almost the top of the sight glass.
Now at a normal dive from about 6k alt at 300-350mph at about 45 deg.
When the tank is CENTERED in my sight glass (below my red dot) at 1.0d I will score hits.
Also fire your rockets in pairs as that is how they come off the wing, this lets you move the target slight to the side that fires.
Hope this helps, also if you see me in the MA I'll head to the TA with you.