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Title: french military victories
Post by: KONG1 on August 24, 2006, 05:22:40 PM
1- Go to http://www.google.com

2- Type in "french military victories" (without the quotes.)

3- Instead of hitting "Search" hit "I'm feeling Lucky"
Title: french military victories
Post by: Wolfala on August 24, 2006, 05:24:41 PM
ouch
Title: french military victories
Post by: Dowding on August 24, 2006, 05:59:21 PM
I've heard this one before somewhere...
Title: french military victories
Post by: OOZ662 on August 24, 2006, 06:01:26 PM
:rofl
Title: french military victories
Post by: dmf on August 24, 2006, 06:03:11 PM
French Military Victorys :rofl
Title: french military victories
Post by: soda72 on August 24, 2006, 06:12:55 PM
:noid
Title: french military victories
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 24, 2006, 06:32:04 PM
Why would Americans make fun of a military that sacrificed far more than America in fighting fascism and communism?
Title: french military victories
Post by: john9001 on August 24, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Why would Americans make fun of a military that sacrificed far more than America in fighting fascism and communism?


because funky breath, america has twice had to go into france and sacrifice lives and money to save the french and then the french disrespect the USA.

"ahh, zee american is so barbarian, i look down my long nose at zem"
Title: french military victories
Post by: nirvana on August 24, 2006, 07:04:46 PM
Ayyyyy welcome to 2003 sir, glad you could make it.

On another note, you could be asking for a spot of tea with your crumpets had the French not come over during the Revolutionary war.
Title: french military victories
Post by: john9001 on August 24, 2006, 07:14:14 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Ayyyyy welcome to 2003 sir, glad you could make it.

On another note, you could be asking for a spot of tea with your crumpets had the French not come over during the Revolutionary war.


the french did not help the colonies in the war with england because they liked the americans , they did it to get back at england for losing canada and the french wanted to gain more islands in the caribbean to grow suger cane.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Trikky on August 24, 2006, 07:17:29 PM
Thats just rude, you lot would still be speaking english if it wasn't for the er...oh my.
Title: french military victories
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 24, 2006, 07:49:06 PM
Wanna read a funny one look at this one

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp (http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp)

Just be sure to pay real close attention to  some of the things they call  "French" military victories LOL
Title: french military victories
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 24, 2006, 07:50:44 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Ayyyyy welcome to 2003 sir, glad you could make it.

On another note, you could be asking for a spot of tea with your crumpets had the French not come over during the Revolutionary war.


the French only came in when it became highly probably the British would loose the war
Title: french military victories
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 24, 2006, 07:52:03 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
the french did not help the colonies in the war with england because they liked the americans , they did it to get back at england for losing canada and the french wanted to gain more islands in the caribbean to grow suger cane.


Yup. the Sugar trade was the big oil industry in those days
Title: french military victories
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 24, 2006, 07:53:31 PM
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Originally posted by Trikky
Thats just rude, you lot would still be speaking english if it wasn't for the er...oh my.
:lol :aok
Title: french military victories
Post by: Grayeagle on August 24, 2006, 08:23:46 PM
In a nutshell, and my opinion from all I have read:

The French just did not have the tactics or organization or logistics required to handle Germany in WW1 ..and WW2 was very much worse.

Most leaders of the era counted on the French to be able to stop the Germans in their tracks ..the French had a lot of soldiers and some formidable defenses. They even had more and better tanks than the German army at the start.

The Germans just cut through them .. hitting them where they weren't until they were so far behind the French line that the French army collapsed.

If we had shared a border with Germany .. we would have been owned ..IMHO.

Frankly, US military readiness sucked in 1939-1940.
Thank God for the British, the Oceans, and the time we were given at such a great sacrifice.

-GE
Title: french military victories
Post by: LePaul on August 24, 2006, 08:32:29 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Why would Americans make fun of a military that sacrificed far more than America in fighting fascism and communism?


What do you have to sacrifice to be utterly steamrolled?  And then when the free world saves you (D-Day), your leader insists on leading the charge and taking all credit?

Bah...anyways
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Post by: SMIDSY on August 24, 2006, 08:37:10 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
because funky breath, america has twice had to go into france and sacrifice lives and money to save the french and then the french disrespect the USA.


they helped us in our war of independence, after WWII, we were even.


PS
US entered WWI because Germany tried to get Mexico to invade us and because BRITAIN was our primary ally at the time, not France.

we entered WWII because we were attacked first, we didnt care about France. if we had, we would have sent troops in 1939. liberating France in WWII was a means to an end: the destruction of Germany, nothing more.
Title: french military victories
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 24, 2006, 08:42:16 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
What do you have to sacrifice to be utterly steamrolled?  

Maybe you could end your ignorance and research the subject?
Title: french military victories
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 24, 2006, 08:42:50 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
because funky breath, america has twice had to go into france and sacrifice lives and money to save the french and then the french disrespect the USA.

"ahh, zee american is so barbarian, i look down my long nose at zem"


Don't see any French here doing that.  I just see ignorant Americans making tulips of themselves.
Title: french military victories
Post by: john9001 on August 24, 2006, 09:23:01 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
.  I just see ignorant Americans making tulips of themselves.


funky , your looking in the mirror :lol
Title: french military victories
Post by: texace on August 24, 2006, 09:24:33 PM
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Title: french military victories
Post by: lukster on August 24, 2006, 09:41:10 PM
The French really aren't so different from us Americans, other than the smelly cheese and silly language. They can be just as stubborn and pig headed as us which is probably why we enjoy bashing them as much as we do and vice versa.
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Post by: T0J0 on August 24, 2006, 09:50:11 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Why would Americans make fun of a military that sacrificed far more than America in fighting fascism and communism?


Enough of the inuendo lets see some examples?

Napoleans joyride into mother russia was purely for scientific reasons of course?!  historians paint it as just a simple need to expand, his belt was to tight...

Ok... a Wiki search on "France fights communism" produces "zero" hits "Shocker"
And a similar search "France fights facsism" produces a "zero"  surprise...
Google doesn't turn up much in the way of useful information other then the few known french military failures were accustomed to reading about in the Oclub every few months...

Help me out here funked!

Why pander to a country of people who Hate us with a joy only equaled by a muslim with a dull knife.... Its not like a secret or something... Its as well known as how late a frenchman will be for a monday morning 8am meeting...
Title: french military victories
Post by: culero on August 24, 2006, 10:09:33 PM
- Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

- Wars of Religion
- France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- War of Revolution
- Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

- The Dutch War
- Tied

- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- War of the Spanish Succession
- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- The Napoleonic Wars
- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States [Entering the war late -ed.]. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

- War on Terrorism
- France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

culero :t
Title: french military victories
Post by: lasersailor184 on August 24, 2006, 10:37:45 PM
Maybe it's not that american education is bad, but we have some of the dumbest mother ****ers ever writing our history books.  Or at least the history books that are given to the education system.


The amount of wrong information here is staggering.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Slash27 on August 24, 2006, 10:40:38 PM
:rofl
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Post by: Toad on August 24, 2006, 10:55:54 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
the french did not help the colonies in the war with england because they liked the americans , they did it to get back at england for losing canada and the french wanted to gain more islands in the caribbean to grow suger cane.


Perhaps; it's quite possible they were promoting/protecting their national interests. Just like the US has done and will do.

Nonetheless, without them the British would very likely have successfully put down the rebellion.
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Post by: nirvana on August 24, 2006, 11:38:05 PM
I used to be a French bashing American, delighting in the "French military losses" then I grew up a little, there's really nothing funny about it...
Title: french military victories
Post by: dmf on August 24, 2006, 11:54:41 PM
WW1 I'm not sure about, it never intrested me before
but
In WW2 The US saved France, and England from Germany, The only reason we liberated France was so we could have a landing spot to wage a ground war against Germany, we used England as a bombing platform and fighter base, As for the Revolution if it hadn't been for France we would still have won that war.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Saintaw on August 25, 2006, 01:31:16 AM
a**clowns.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Waffle on August 25, 2006, 01:42:46 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/T/french_shutup.jpg)
Title: french military victories
Post by: Nilsen on August 25, 2006, 01:52:26 AM
And without russia we would prolly all speak german, and some with a japanese accent.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Slash27 on August 25, 2006, 02:32:49 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
And without russia we would prolly all speak german, and some with a japanese accent.


"We" who?
Title: french military victories
Post by: Nilsen on August 25, 2006, 02:35:30 AM
Lets say the germans won the war in europe and finished with their research into nukular weapons. I think the "we" could include USA.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Slash27 on August 25, 2006, 02:39:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Lets say the germans won the war in europe and finished with their research into nukular weapons. I think the "we" could include USA.


And "you" would be wrong.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 25, 2006, 02:41:15 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
And "you" would be wrong.


How do you know?
Title: french military victories
Post by: moot on August 25, 2006, 02:42:08 AM
There must be a permutation of the French, their accent, armpits, Cheese, Baguettes, and surrenders that hasn't be done yet...
Title: french military victories
Post by: Slash27 on August 25, 2006, 02:43:18 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
How do you know?



Because Im an American.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Nilsen on August 25, 2006, 02:47:41 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Because Im an American.


:D
Title: french military victories
Post by: Angus on August 25, 2006, 05:35:25 AM
Well, they won the 100 year war....sort of :D
Little Bonie also conquered most of Europe, - can't do that without some victories.
And held at Verdun...
Title: french military victories
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 25, 2006, 05:58:58 AM
.........

:rofl


Earing Americans getting an ego trip on such threads when they were not even there, is like todays African Americans looking for compensation for slavery. Your father who was involved the WW2, your grand father, or your great grand father are the ones that can run their mouths. At best people like JohnyRa lost the Vietnam war.:lol
Title: french military victories
Post by: Nilsen on August 25, 2006, 06:03:36 AM
Ego is in the genes. Its a disorder affecting most people, but you can get pills for it.
Title: french military victories
Post by: straffo on August 25, 2006, 07:59:33 AM
As a side note to the independance war : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

On the french wiki the article is pretty good and it seam the english one is good too (I didn't read the whole article in english,sorry I've some work to do)
Title: french military victories
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 25, 2006, 08:10:44 AM
How many threads are there on poor politicians on this BBS? Out of the hundreds, if not thousands, of threads on poor politicians and how the goverment is "ruining our lives" and foriegn members of this BBS are more then happy to toss their remarks into the pile thees a handful of threads poking fun at another nation. Those threads turn from poking fun into a debate on past occurances that usually none of us were apart of.

Everyone needs to just lighten up and learn how to have a sense of humor.
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Post by: lazs2 on August 25, 2006, 08:13:38 AM
Public school teachers are great fans of the french.

lazs
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Post by: BlueJ1 on August 25, 2006, 08:19:08 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Public school teachers are great fans of the french.

lazs


Yes they are.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Saintaw on August 25, 2006, 08:27:59 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Public school teachers are great fans of the french.

lazs


You went to school?
Title: french military victories
Post by: straffo on August 25, 2006, 08:30:24 AM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1

Everyone needs to just lighten up and learn how to have a sense of humor.



Sorry but my sense of humour doesn't resist the 20th occurence of the same post.
1st post was "humourous" the 19 others are just moronic.
Title: french military victories
Post by: Angus on August 25, 2006, 08:32:47 AM
Maybe time to google "Italian war victories" ?
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Post by: lazs2 on August 25, 2006, 08:33:12 AM
yep saint.... both public and catholic and even too much "higher education".

lazs
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Post by: lasersailor184 on August 25, 2006, 08:36:41 AM
I just want to clear some stuff up.

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Nonetheless, without them the British would very likely have successfully put down the rebellion.


The actual french troops and ships stepped in when the battle was damn near over.

The only thing that France actually did (and without this we would have lost) was to hire a Prussian Military Genius to teach us how to beat Britain.  Without this single event happening, I can easily say we would have lost.

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The French just did not have the tactics or organization or logistics required to handle Germany in WW1


Not quite, the French and the british were holding their own against germany.  The problem was that germany defeated Russia on the east front, and then shipped the troops as quickly as possible over to the west front.

So the allies (sub america) are in a stalemate with germany.  No one is really getting anywhere.  Germany was about to bring in a crapload more troops, which would have broken the stalemate in their favor.

But america comes in and gets to the front lines just before the East Front German troops did.  Without the american troops being on the front lines, I can easily say that germany would have won.
Title: french military victories
Post by: culero on August 25, 2006, 08:55:56 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
a**clowns.


Hey! I resemble that remark! :eek:

culero ;)
Title: french military victories
Post by: Charon on August 25, 2006, 09:05:20 AM
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At best people like JohnyRa lost the Vietnam war.


But only after the French :)

The French suffered from poor leadership, political and military in WWI and WWII. Actually, they were hardly unusual in that respect. They were just in a position to suffer the most from it, due to geography and time. In WWI their brave troops paid heavily in blood on their home soil for that. In WWII things moved so fast they didn't have a chance to learn/overcome from their mistakes due to the new german tactics and the really poor procurement decisions made by the French leadership before the war.

You can compare and contrast things like:

The Somme
Pearl Harbor (and other targets in 1941)
Iron Bottom Bay
Tunisia
Mark Clark
Assorted N. african campaigns against Rommel
Stalingrad
MK 14 torpedo scandal.
Declaring war on the US.
Declaring war on Russia
etc.

The US, Brits and even Germans had more opportunity to adjust to mistakes (time/resources/geography). The Germans had a another conflict to learn how to fight WW2 before WW2. The French did not, and the french fighting man gave it his best.

Charon
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Post by: FUNKED1 on August 25, 2006, 09:11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
a**clowns.


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