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Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Ripsnort on August 28, 2006, 10:49:17 AM
He's taken a turn for the worse again. Hasn't gotten up but once in the last 2 days. He seems strong when he does get up, but then lays down again. He puked up his food yesterday.

He's 15 and of course the vet wants to see him yet again. I'm considering a 1 way trip rather than be hit with a $200 vet bill (actually $458 last time) everytime they want to see him, and inevitably send him home. Am I being selfish about this? He's very old, very tired, still "able" but just barely able...what to do?
Title: Re: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: indy007 on August 28, 2006, 11:00:20 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
He's taken a turn for the worse again. Hasn't gotten up but once in the last 2 days. He seems strong when he does get up, but then lays down again. He puked up his food yesterday.

He's 15 and of course the vet wants to see him yet again. I'm considering a 1 way trip rather than be hit with a $200 vet bill (actually $458 last time) everytime they want to see him, and inevitably send him home. Am I being selfish about this? He's very old, very tired, still "able" but just barely able...what to do?


We put down one of our dogs recently. He was about 16. He was old and hurting, but still had sparks of life. However, it was too much to watch him try and walk around on shaky, arthritic legs. He made one last trip to the vet, and came back in an urn. It was a really sad day here, but it was worse watching him walk around eaten up by arthritis and cancer.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: lukster on August 28, 2006, 11:00:49 AM
Tough decision, I don't envy you. In the end you have to do what's best for the dog. If he's in frequent pain it's probably better to make that a one way trip. You have my sympathies.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Neubob on August 28, 2006, 11:01:23 AM
I suppose it would be fairest to consider his quality of life. Is he living, or just existing? Is he in pain? Does the pleasure he get when he does get up overwhelm the suffering he feels at all other times. It's not about the joy you and your family feels when they play with him anymore, it's all about the dog, and, cruel as it may be to say this, he has lived a long life.

I know it's pretty crappy to distill it down to these factors and ignore the sentimentality, but, as a living organism, I'd prefer to live, rather than just go through the motions of being alive.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Ripsnort on August 28, 2006, 11:07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Neubob
I suppose it would be fairest to consider his quality of life. Is he living, or just existing? Is he in pain? Does the pleasure he get when he does get up overwhelm the suffering he feels at all other times. It's not about the joy you and your family feels when they play with him anymore, it's all about the dog, and, cruel as it may be to say this, he has lived a long life.

I know it's pretty crappy to distill it down to these factors and ignore the sentimentality, but, as a living organism, I'd prefer to live, rather than just go through the motions of being alive.
That's a very good post Neubob, and one I'll be pondering this morning.  My wife agrees (I conveyed this message to her) wholeheartedly.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Ripsnort on August 28, 2006, 12:19:39 PM
Well, 3:00pm today we're putting him down. He'll be sadly missed, but he's had a good long life.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 28, 2006, 12:24:10 PM
:(  My condoleneces to you and your family sir.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: detch01 on August 28, 2006, 12:42:42 PM
My condolences Rip. It's a hard, hard decision to have to make but sometimes the last favour you can do for a pet is to put them down humanely.






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Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: xrtoronto on August 28, 2006, 12:49:37 PM
I don't envy your situation.

If in your shoes, I would look at what is best for your dog. He's been a devoted family member for a decade and half and deserves the best you can do for him.  You are fortunate enough to have the income to 'help' if that's what is needed.

If you have doubts, maybe it isn't the right thing to have him put down?

Best of luck on this Rip.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Nifty on August 28, 2006, 12:50:28 PM
Sorry to hear, Rip.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Halo on August 28, 2006, 02:26:50 PM
Deepest condolences, Ripsnort.  We had to put down our 15-year-old Parsons Jack Russell terrier a couple years ago.  Hard to do, but to many animal caretakers it's a loving gift and duty of ownership when a pet's quality of life declines that significantly.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Neubob on August 28, 2006, 02:31:39 PM
Condolences, Ripsnort.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Sparks on August 28, 2006, 03:34:07 PM
My condolences Rip. It's rough on the family. I went through this myself in February - our Beagle had cancer and we had to have him put down suddenly due to internal hemoarage.  Held him while they gave him the shot .........

I feel for you but it's the right thing if he is suffering with no hope.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Modas on August 28, 2006, 03:44:16 PM
That's terrible news :(

Something I got when I had to put my dog of 14 years down while I was in college from one of my relatives.  I read it everyonce in a while...

IF IT SHOULD BE

If it should be that I grow weak
And pain should keep me from my sleep,
Then you must do what must be done,
For this last battle cannot be won.

You will be sad, I understand.
Don't let your grief then stay your hand.
For this day, more than all the rest,
Your love for me must stand the test.

We've had so many happy years.
What is to come can hold no fears.
You'd not want me to suffer so;
The time has come -- please let me go.

Take me where my need they'll tend,
And please stay with me till the end.
Hold me firm and speak to me,
Until my eyes no longer see.

I know in time that you will see
The kindness that you did for me.
Although my tail its last has waved,
From pain and suffering I've been saved.

Please do not grieve -- it must be you
Who had this painful thing to do.
We've been so close, we two, these years;
Don't let your heart hold back its tears.

--- Anonymous ---
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: LePaul on August 28, 2006, 04:23:41 PM
Im sorry to hear that, Rip.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Ripsnort on August 28, 2006, 07:35:35 PM
Well, they say its one of the  most difficult things you must do in your life, and I hadn't experienced with my own dog until today at 3:10pm when my hunting campion of 15 years drew his last breath in my arms.  I agree, it was a tough thing to do, I've not stopped shedding tears since.

Sol started out life as S.O.L., "(S)"Hit out of Luck, (SOL) for short, Solomon, for a wise king for long.  The reason was that he was deemd "Sol" was he was droped in front of a pet store that didn't have facilities for dogs, and someone had left a litter of black lab pups, 9 in all, on the doorstep overnight. These labs were on a "Clearance" sale for 24 hours, due for the animal shelter after that where they would have almost certainly faced death.

When I asked them to take them all out of the cardboard box they'd been left in, the  pet store owner thought I was nuts...but I was looking for a certain type of puppy, and I found it.  This one pup just stared at me while the rest played like puppies.  I made a funny sound with my lips, and this little pup who would be named Sol came trotting over to me, 15 years almost to this day.

He would hunt ducks, pheasants and chukkar for me for 9 glorious years, never giving up on those ducks that are wounded and like to dive and hold onto a weed in the bottom of the pond.  Nope, Sol would surface after a try or two, duck in hand. He had a beautiful "soft" mouth, inevitably dropping the duck on the retrieve, which made for good duck meat when carving them up in the evening.


Sol was fixed at age 6 months before he knew what sex was, but that didn't stop him from trying to dry-hump any 4 legged critter that allowed him to...I always thought that was strange...but that was Sol.

I buried my companion, and "first child" between my wife and I this afternoon, wrapped nicely in an old camoflage hunting jacket that became his the first time he puked on it when he went hunting at age 11 months in Montana.


I'll miss that dog. They say its so tough to go through that you never want to do it again, but you know what? I disagree....I think those 15 years we had together was worth every second of his life, and mine, even though the last few hours are tough..

Love you Sol, Hunt'em up!





And thank you for the kind words, all.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Skuzzy on August 28, 2006, 08:18:15 PM
All you can do is the right thing.  No matter how hard it is.

Hang in there Rip.  It'll get better.
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Dago on August 28, 2006, 08:23:42 PM
Put down my Golden Retriever a couple years ago, and I completely understand the sadness.  Haven't gotten another dog since, maybe some day.

Time will heal.

regards,

dago
Title: Pondering decisions on our dog
Post by: Toad on August 28, 2006, 09:04:41 PM
It's a bargain you made with him the moment he came to you at the pet store.

As the poem above says

"Please do not grieve -- it must be you
Who had this painful thing to do."

He gave you all; love and joy and life. You owed him this dignified death.

It's just a bloody shame they don't live as long as we do.

I've had to do this for 3 fine Labradors; it never gets easier and it always hurts as much as losing a family member.

The only cure I've found is to have about three Labs, with 4 years between their ages. When the eldest is 8 and just near the end of her prime years, I have a 4 year old that is just coming into her prime years and there's another new pup besides.

I can't do it any other way.

My condolences Rip. I know how much it hurts to lose a great dog. Tell G-man I'm sorry as well.