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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fuzeman on August 28, 2006, 03:23:01 PM
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Welp, spent the weekend de-virusing my computer.
AVG free version passed it with flying colors and didn't find anything. I did have the current virus definitions.
If you want to try the old version of BitDefender, the #8 version.
http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/view/Download-Free-Products.html
Let me know what you think. It found a few things AVG didn't and I for one am considering a change. It found a couple Trojans and found hgqhp.exe which AVG didn't.
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Thanks for info, downloading now.
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What?!? Crap, I just ditched McAfee for AVG this month.
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I just acquired a used laptop. I was going to wipe it but thought Id scan it to see what it had on it for viruses/worms. 10 virus/worms
AVG Free wouldnt do a thing about it. It would merrily scan away yet do nothing.
Spybot Search n Destroy found and tried to delete them
As did Ad Aware.
They all detected but couldnt clean it up.
So I checked the Symantec site. The online scan confirmed it had 10 issues. You cant download an evaluation of 2006 but they do have 2007 Beta available to try. I downloaded that, installed it and it not only found the viruses/worms, it identified them and fixed the system. Even going so far as to weed the issues out of the registry.
Im still going to yank the hard drive and install a bigger drive. But it was interesting to see what software packages would identify and actually fix these problems
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My neighbor dowloaded torjan a virus, from some crazy sitte with viruses free download, and instaled it on computer, after he scaned with AVG, just to test it. AVG didn't find it
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Originally posted by ghi
My neighbor dowloaded torjan a virus, from some crazy sitte with viruses free download, and instaled it on computer, after he scaned with AVG, just to test it. AVG didn't find it
Yeah, Im disappointed with AVG too.
The only time it found a virus on the system I mentioned was when another application, like Spybot, detected it. But again, all it offered to do was quarantine the file, not delete and resolve it.
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Originally posted by LePaul
I just acquired a used laptop.
Im still going to yank the hard drive and install a bigger drive.
Good idea to replace that HDD ASAP. Another problen is the MAC number. You just never know what was on the HDD or where that MAC number has been.
I wouldn't touch one with a ten-foot pole if someone paid me to take it. Traveling internationally with one is a death wish.
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Originally posted by ghi
My neighbor dowloaded torjan a virus, from some crazy sitte with viruses free download, and instaled it on computer, after he scaned with AVG, just to test it. AVG didn't find it
I think AVG might be the least of your neighbor`s problems.
To quote......Ron White: "You can`t fix stupid."
Sorry ghi. I just has to. :)
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AVG = Avast?
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NOD 32, trust me, $35 a year is worth it, and as for the free ones, always remember you get what you pay for.
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I don't know how many times I've posted here that AVG and Avast are crap.
If you want good AV get either McAfee, Symantec, Trend, or NOD32. These guys always rank well. Between the 4 of them some people like/do not like certain stuff (I hate symantec as its bloated and until recently was 'rootkit'ish).
AVG constantly gets extremely poor detection ratings on indepent AV tests. Whereas the 4 names above usually get within spitting distance of each other.
I always laugh when some AVG loving noob tells me "I've had AVG for 5 years and never had a virus" - my answer is always "how do you know?".... but they don't get it.
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Originally posted by Rolex
Another problen is the MAC number. You just never know what was on the HDD or where that MAC number has been.
What on earth are you refering to with "MAC number"?
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Sorry, hadn't even had one sip of coffee yet. (number=address)
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"AVG = Avast?"
Not at all. AVG sucks. Avast is far superior and IMO (as well as others on the net if you check via"Googling") the equal of, or better, than the Symantec and McAfee. McAfee is a resource hog and sucks as bad as AVG imo.
The best "pay" a.v. software is (imo) Trends PC-cillin. And the best "free" program is Avast.
AVG sucks - which IMO can't be said enough. :)
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Originally posted by Rolex
Sorry, hadn't even had one sip of coffee yet. (number=address)
Err why the hell would a MAC address be a problem? No coffee but have you been smoking something?
You do realize your MAC address is usually not visible to anyone on the net?
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Originally posted by Westy
"AVG = Avast?"
Not at all. AVG sucks. Avast is far superior and IMO (as well as others on the net if you check via"Googling") the equal of, or better, than the Symantec and McAfee. McAfee is a resource hog and sucks as bad as AVG imo.
The best "pay" a.v. software is (imo) Trends PC-cillin. And the best "free" program is Avast.
AVG sucks - which IMO can't be said enough. :)
Err actually McAfee isn't a resource hog. Version 8i runs in 30Mb of RAM, and thats including antispyware and buffer overflow protection (some basic IPS functionality). It also has some nice tweakable settings on CPU utilization and scan times.
AVAST sucks as much as AVG does. Plus AVAST has some nasty file size issues. Trends nice.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Err why the hell would a MAC address be a problem? No coffee but have you been smoking something?
You do realize your MAC address is usually not visible to anyone on the net?
Have I been smoking something? What kind of comment is that? It's not (usually) visible on the net, but I'm not interested in having a laptop that has logged into any ISP (which you, of all people, know logs the MAC address), therefore having a traceable history other than my own.
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Originally posted by LePaul
I just acquired a used laptop. I was going to wipe it but thought Id scan it to see what it had on it for viruses/worms. 10 virus/worms
AVG Free wouldnt do a thing about it. It would merrily scan away yet do nothing.
Spybot Search n Destroy found and tried to delete them
As did Ad Aware.
They all detected but couldnt clean it up.
So I checked the Symantec site. The online scan confirmed it had 10 issues. You cant download an evaluation of 2006 but they do have 2007 Beta available to try. I downloaded that, installed it and it not only found the viruses/worms, it identified them and fixed the system. Even going so far as to weed the issues out of the registry.
Im still going to yank the hard drive and install a bigger drive. But it was interesting to see what software packages would identify and actually fix these problems
That is why there is:
http://safety.live.com
and if that won't do anything, check the root location of the virus from the scanners that detected it but wouldnt clean it. Most of the time you can manually delete it. If not, pull up the Registry Editor (Start>Run>regedit) Then press Ctrl + F, and search for the file name. Once you find it, delete the registry key, and try again. Still doesen't work? Keep searching for it and deleting the registry keys until you can't find any traces of the file anymore. (Be sure to use extension in your search criteria, and try to match the key's value to the root location of the virus/trojan.)
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Originally posted by fuzeman
Welp, spent the weekend de-virusing my computer.
AVG free version passed it with flying colors and didn't find anything. I did have the current virus definitions.
If you want to try the old version of BitDefender, the #8 version.
http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/view/Download-Free-Products.html
Let me know what you think. It found a few things AVG didn't and I for one am considering a change. It found a couple Trojans and found hgqhp.exe which AVG didn't.
http://www.avast.com - home version free.
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I'm just relaying my personal experience Vulcan. I've not tried McAfee in about two years but my PC rana heck of alot fatser when it was gone. And it's been a little less time since I've tried AVG.
Fwiw the reason I switched (besides being free) is Avast caught viruses on several PC's that had previously had ( as late as this summer) McAffee and Symantec on them (with Symantec had a couple of cases where it saw a problem/virus but could not do anything with it)
I personally have not a single issue while using AVAST and I've installed it on my 3 pc's as well as 3 neighbors and two neices. No problems at all.
But IF I had to choose to buy one it would be PC-cillan.
edited: Another tool that is indispensable to help keep your PC clean from nasty infections is Ewido.
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Originally posted by Rolex
Have I been smoking something? What kind of comment is that? It's not (usually) visible on the net, but I'm not interested in having a laptop that has logged into any ISP (which you, of all people, know logs the MAC address), therefore having a traceable history other than my own.
I seriously doubt that most ISP are logging MAC address information. The only ones I know of that even care what your MAC address is are cable companies that don't use PPoE and that's only so they can tie your service to your network card. This is to prevent fraudulent access to thier network. Most cable companies have abandoned this and moved to PPoE or some other form of Authentication because MAC address cloning is a common feature on most Cable/DSL routers.
The MAC address (hardware address of your network card) is only sent to your ISP to assign you an IP address. This is destroyed when your IP lease expires. True, most DCHP servers can keep logs but all they would show is this network card received an ip from their server on a specific date.
As far as the HDD there are many forensic tools available that will completely clean a HDD of any data. If you are that paranoid regarding what may have been saved on it.
Seriously, I think you are stressing about a whole lot of nothing.
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Maybe he doesen't want the NSA to find him:cool: !
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Originally posted by Rolex
Have I been smoking something? What kind of comment is that? It's not (usually) visible on the net, but I'm not interested in having a laptop that has logged into any ISP (which you, of all people, know logs the MAC address), therefore having a traceable history other than my own.
Errmm 99% of the time an ISP never sees your MAC address. Only if your ISP is providing you with an ethernet connection to plug into DIRECTLY will they see the MAC address. MAC addresses are a L2 thing, any L3 device in the path (ie Router, Modem, Firewall, L3 Switch etc) will not pass them upstream.
Dunno who you've been talking too but sounds like they're confused.
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AVAST sucks as much as AVG does. Plus AVAST has some nasty file size issues. Trends nice.
Don't know about that. It has worked great for me, caught some stuff incoming, always updates itself and my work uses the commercial license for over 300 employees at 3 main locations and various remote telecommuters. IT guy still has his job. Not bad for free home use.
Charon
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Originally posted by Westy
I'm just relaying my personal experience Vulcan. I've not tried McAfee in about two years but my PC rana heck of alot fatser when it was gone. And it's been a little less time since I've tried AVG.
Fwiw the reason I switched (besides being free) is Avast caught viruses on several PC's that had previously had ( as late as this summer) McAffee and Symantec on them (with Symantec had a couple of cases where it saw a problem/virus but could not do anything with it)
I personally have not a single issue while using AVAST and I've installed it on my 3 pc's as well as 3 neighbors and two neices. No problems at all.
But IF I had to choose to buy one it would be PC-cillan.
edited: Another tool that is indispensable to help keep your PC clean from nasty infections is Ewido.
This gonna sound... ummm... well like I'm being an ahole. Buit for me its my professional experience. I'll be honest, McAfee is a product I actually sell. But I'm reknowned at work for not selling stuff unless I'm completely happy with it. I've seen Avast perform poorly and break a number of times. It just isn't as good as - like you say for example - PC Cillin (Trend).
In fact come to think of it we had virus hit internally last week ( mydoom variant) . It came in via Mac's running Parallels, usually those guys run Avast on their systems. Luckily we're got IPS/GatewayAV between internal segments and I stopped it getting out of the Apple cess-pit.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
It came in via Mac's...
Viruses on Mac's. Surely you jest? I've seen the adverts on TV and Apple says only PC's get viruses ;)
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Originally posted by wooley
Viruses on Mac's. Surely you jest? I've seen the adverts on TV and Apple says only PC's get viruses ;)
Parallels lets them run Windows within a Window. So it was a PC Virus within a PC emulation on an Apple.
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It might be a whole lot about nothing, Clifra, but I still would not take a used laptop through Customs, which was my original point. You are welcome to do it. Customs is a legal black hole where laptops are seized and forensic analysis done without probable cause or legal requirement to have any.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I don't know how many times I've posted here that AVG and Avast are crap.
If you want good AV get either McAfee, Symantec, Trend, or NOD32. These guys always rank well. Between the 4 of them some people like/do not like certain stuff (I hate symantec as its bloated and until recently was 'rootkit'ish).
AVG constantly gets extremely poor detection ratings on indepent AV tests. Whereas the 4 names above usually get within spitting distance of each other.
I always laugh when some AVG loving noob tells me "I've had AVG for 5 years and never had a virus" - my answer is always "how do you know?".... but they don't get it.
Don't know about McAffee, or Trend, but Symantec ( norton) leaft 5 viruses in my system restore files that would have been really bad of my computers health that NOD 32 found before I ever ran the first scan.
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AVG is one of the best programs, and not all programs can find viruses, except norton cause it sucks, AVG doesn't try and put it in the vault or delete? Cause nothing else (program) wise can lepaul. AVG great program but bit defender, give it a year and there will be something it can't find.
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Can a virus or malware cripple or blind AVG, yes, its happened to me.
In which case AVG or whatever software will sit & scan and find nothing.
I've seen it happen with more than 1 virus scanner. At least with AVG its not complaining if I try to install it in more than one location or computer. Unlike some other bloated antivirus programs out there.
So I can easily have a dual boot system and in case of doubt. Jump into the other side, and scan all. At least AVG will NOT crash your system, tie up huge chunks of system resorces, and hide itself away in strange places on your HD like some of the big boys. I had a symantic utilities disk back in win 95 that caused about a dozen crashes before I figured it out.
Last, like everything else, you get what you pay for. I didn't pay a dime for AVG.
Nod32 is NOT free, its a 30 day trial. Avast I havn't checked out yet. But it doesn't sound THAT much better.
BTW the ultimate fixer is an avg dos virus scanner.
Boot up with win98 floppy, insert disk, do a DOS scan of the whole computer.
Takes a bit of time, but it catch's everybody. Windows is not running so nothing can hide, protect itself from delete, etc.
This is not a black & white world, there is no one perfect answer that is the same answer for all people & all problems at all times.
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Vulcan you didn't come across like an a-hole to me. I can espect your opinion based on your experience. Mine has been different is all.
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AVG , free or Pro , both suck
New McAfee is crapware just like Norton.... , both companys add campaines are full of Hype and BS.....their base code is same old stuff John McAfee and Peter Norton wrote years ago.....
CA antivirus r7, can be had for a year, free, thru Microsofts security
website , and is a far better choice ....
2 years without a problem using NOD 32 antivirus software .
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Originally posted by CHECKERS
AVG , free or Pro , both suck
New McAfee is crapware just like Norton.... , both companys add campaines are full of Hype and BS.....their base code is same old stuff John McAfee and Peter Norton wrote years ago.....
CA antivirus r7, can be had for a year, free, thru Microsofts security
website , and is a far better choice ....
2 years without a problem using NOD 32 antivirus software .
Its not the 'same base stuff'. And you show your ignorance, Nortons did not write their original AV code. It was written by Dr Solomons.
CA sucks, I know of a few large corporate site thats had a significant outbreaks with CA. Once again a free or extremely cheap solution (they've sold it here for $1 per node).
I like McAfee, theres nothing wrong with it. Same goes for NOD32.
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Originally posted by Viper9th
AVG is one of the best programs, and not all programs can find viruses, except norton cause it sucks, AVG doesn't try and put it in the vault or delete? Cause nothing else (program) wise can lepaul. AVG great program but bit defender, give it a year and there will be something it can't find.
LOL your arguments are laughable. Symantec sucks? And AVG is great although when both products are presented a known-infected system, your "great" application detected nothing.
Now look, Im not fanboy of Symantec, AVG, MacAffee or (insert your brand here). I was just giving all the programs I could think of one evening a swing at fixing the situation. Surprisingly (to me), Symantec not only detected but fixed and repaired the system.
I hadnt thought to try McAffee, I have never used em.
Im sorry, in a technical discussion of one software app versus another, saying "one sucks" doesnt cut it. Empirical evidence please. Let's stick to facts and not opinions.
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Originally posted by wooley
Viruses on Mac's. Surely you jest? I've seen the adverts on TV and Apple says only PC's get viruses ;)
Yea right.
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Originally posted by Bogie603rd
Maybe he doesen't want the NSA to find him:cool: !
I have a program for that too, it completely erases every piece of data on the Hdd and writes, ( not over writes) o's to the drive, that will take care of whatever pic's progs, or other stuff that was downloaded, as for tthe hardware, may I suggest starting over with all new?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Its not the 'same base stuff'. And you show your ignorance, Nortons did not write their original AV code. It was written by Dr Solomons.
CA sucks, I know of a few large corporate site thats had a significant outbreaks with CA. Once again a free or extremely cheap solution (they've sold it here for $1 per node).
I like McAfee, theres nothing wrong with it. Same goes for NOD32.
Vulcan, Dr. Solomons is/was McAfee, ie Network Associates ...... DUH ???
You like McAfee , great ! you run it !
"To achieve ICSA Labs’ Anti-Virus Certification, a product must demonstrate that it can protect computer systems and media from computer virus intrusion, detect computer viruses on an infected computer system or media, and provide for recovery from a computer virus infection. To that end, ICSA Labs Certified anti-virus products must detect 100% of viruses on the current "In the Wild List”"; detect 100% of the ICSA Labs’ Common Infectors List; detect 90% of known viruses not currently listed as "In the Wild" and do so without causing any false alarms. Complete criteria may be found at: http://www.icsalabs.com. CA’s eTrust Antivirus successfully met all of these specifications.
McAfee falls flat on iits DirectX activated butt ....... VB test, after test ..... good stuff ?
TOO FUNNY ....... :rofl
Like LePaul kinda refers to , an opinion formed on loyalty is pure BS ....
"LOL your arguments are laughable. Symantec sucks? And AVG is great although when both products are presented a known-infected system, your "great" application detected nothing.
Now look, Im not fanboy of Symantec, AVG, MacAffee or (insert your brand here). I was just giving all the programs I could think of one evening a swing at fixing the situation. Surprisingly (to me), Symantec not only detected but fixed and repaired the system.
I hadnt thought to try McAffee, I have never used em.
Im sorry, in a technical discussion of one software app versus another, saying "one sucks" doesnt cut it. Empirical evidence please. Let's stick to facts and not opinions."
Symantec has a 99% detection rate in Wild List tests , but, it old patched base code is loaded down with all kinds of crap that are required to run with it .... and it bogs down even the fastest PCs. ie Norton Security Center is a prime example .....
Regards............
CHECKERS......
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Yea when I ran Symantec Corp version (8 ?) on my web servers, I noticed the CPU power drop significantly. That program may have done its job scanning and detecting...but wow, at a substancial load on performance
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Geez ladies,
why do you have to be so emotional. Why don't you stick to facts and useful hints and info and leave the "I hate", "I love" behind. If you opinion of a particular product is negative, tell us why. This is useful and constructive.
If all you have to offer is womanly "I hate it but I don't know why", go to Oprah BBS.
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Back to topic.
I was using Norton for number of years. It worked ok, but what I found very anoying was their greed. Not only they want me to "buy" their product every year, but they also want me to buy more than one copy. I understand that updating the current DB costs money and I'm ok with some yearly fee, but charging for an yearly upgrade as much as for a new product just rubs me the wrong way. I have a small home network (10+ boxes). I really dislike the idea of charging per seat.
Recently I've decided to switch to McAfee. The ads looked good, and after an initial installation I liked the product. After playing with it a bit on my laptop, I've decided to install it on all my computers. This is when real problems started to show up.
* It failed to even install on some of my older boxes.
* Some of my comps lost the internet connectivity. Uninstall fixed the problem. I did not bother to troubleshoot.
* The overhead is too big. After McAfee installation everything is not only visibly, but also significantly slower. The effect is more visible on some comps that others. My wife's comp got so much slower that she not only immediately noticed it, she told me to whack it immediately. Before McAfee, she was running Norton, so it was a comparison of two competing products, not McAfee vs. clean system.
All in all, three days after I purchased it, my brand new, still shiny McAfee got and axe. I uninstalled it from all my boxes and replaced it with Avast. My laptop is running the Pro version, rest is on Home Edition. So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Installed without problems, seems very unintrusive. It does not get in you way with tons of pop-ups. The only question I still need to answer is... does it work, does it catch viruses. You guys seem to have varying opinions.
Can someone direct me to some official third party evaluations?
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MAC addresses can be spoofed. No worries. :D
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Originally posted by CHECKERS
Vulcan, Dr. Solomons is/was McAfee, ie Network Associates ...... DUH ???
You like McAfee , great ! you run it !
"To achieve ICSA Labs’ Anti-Virus Certification, a product must demonstrate that it can protect computer systems and media from computer virus intrusion, detect computer viruses on an infected computer system or media, and provide for recovery from a computer virus infection. To that end, ICSA Labs Certified anti-virus products must detect 100% of viruses on the current "In the Wild List”"; detect 100% of the ICSA Labs’ Common Infectors List; detect 90% of known viruses not currently listed as "In the Wild" and do so without causing any false alarms. Complete criteria may be found at: http://www.icsalabs.com. CA’s eTrust Antivirus successfully met all of these specifications.
McAfee falls flat on iits DirectX activated butt ....... VB test, after test ..... good stuff ?
TOO FUNNY ....... :rofl
OK so I got em back da front on Dr Solomons :)
DirectX activated? Are you referring to McAfee's ASAP product ( .net, not directx).
I run the .net version on work PCs as its managed by the firewall, good for zero day outbreaks and aV enforcement, and 8i on my servers. Have done for quite a while. Both are good, reliable, and never fallen over. Sure the managed version is annoying as .net likes to jump to the front every now and then.
The fact remains with CA that we've seen several large scale outbreaks on CA deployed sites with worms that went straight through CA, when McAfee, NOD32, Symantec, and Trend sites were fine. One site example is the Ministry of Education in NZ - who selected CA simply because CA went in at NZ$0.50 per node!
good resource for those who are asking: http://www.virustotal.com
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Well, I did the test this afternoon on a laptop which was used by the son of a boss to surf pr0n (that's the boss version and he's sticking to it ;) )...
McAfee VirusScan with latest engine and DAT: no viruses...
AVG 7.1 network edition with latest update: 2 trojans
Both were configured to scan all files and look into compressed files.
So much for your evaluation, Vulcan.
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Ill trust Vulcans advice even if he is a Mac hater :D
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Unfortunately Nod32 has become 100% proof against viruses lately in few instances. Namely it bluescreens on bootup.
It's due to some system conflict and I've been able to live with it so far. But it's highly annoying when it happens.
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Show me a Anti Virus program that has never failed and I'll show you someone who's bankrolling people to write viruses.
Seriously. They've all failed at one point or another. The real issue is, how qiuckly do they figure it out and bounce back? How well do they update you on the viruses that defeat their products?
Macafee and Norton fail alot of tests. Because they are the most popular A/V programs out there, and more viruses are written to specifically attack them. That doesnt necessarily turn me off of either product.
What I dont like about Norton is the way it insinuates itself into your OS and sticks its fingers in places they dont belong. Also, it doesnt work well with Thunderbird.
What I dont like about Macafee is they refuse to tell you about viruses that manage to defeat their software and they leave you swinging in the wind.
So does CA.
PC-Cillin was ok, but SLOW to update; still may be one of the best out there.
Panda does alright, misses more than I like though, and also doesnt work well with Thunderbird.
I currently have Avast installed, and its already missed one test I sent its way. It wont be on much longer.
Bottom line is, I really dont much like ANY of the current offerings, but PC-Cillin may be the best bet. I have a few others to try.
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Lew/+Silat
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OK explain this.
I do use the online Trend Micro as my backup AV checker and it usually ran through AOK.
Lately it runs awhile and just stops, the window closes like it was stopped in mid scan.
I did download the 30day trial version of PC-cillan and that does run through completely.
I thought those were basically the same program but why would the online one abort and the one I load on my system run through ok?
When the installed one does run it doens't find any malware at all.
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The real problem is that with current antivirus systems you get a system penalty big enough to call the software itself malware.
I recently reinstalled my old laptop from scratch and forgot to install an antivirus. I was thinking to myself 'wow this laptop is faster than I remembered' untill I realized it was being held back by antiviruses all the time.
Lately I'm considering to isolate my machines and run everything to the network through one dedicated computer with full heuristics on. It's a bit risky but the payoffs are big.
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Silat, very nice post :) I think I might download some of those, thanks:D
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Found my lost link:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/report11.pdf
Here you go, comphrensive independent testing of AV products.
Note the AVG results, they get the worst rating possible.
edited broken link :)
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
The real problem is that with current antivirus systems you get a system penalty big enough to call the software itself malware.
I recently reinstalled my old laptop from scratch and forgot to install an antivirus. I was thinking to myself 'wow this laptop is faster than I remembered' untill I realized it was being held back by antiviruses all the time.
Lately I'm considering to isolate my machines and run everything to the network through one dedicated computer with full heuristics on. It's a bit risky but the payoffs are big.
This is similar to what I do.
I have two components to my 'border protection'. First is my 'server' which is running McAfee 8.0i corporate with antispyware (I like 8i patch 10 as you can setup CPU utilisation levels on it). Second is my firewall, which is a Sonicwall Pro 1260, overkill for him but I get special 'deals' :) It does gateway Intrusion Prevention, AV, and Antispyware (scanning traffic for worms, web/ftp/email for virus's and spyware in realtime).
My gaming rig has no AV nor does it download any files, any files come via the server first (so they pass through the firewall then scan on demand on McAfee)
Works a treat :)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Found my lost link:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/report11.pdf#search=%22antivirus%20test%20results%20mcafee%20avg%20symantec%22
Here you go, comphrensive independent testing of AV products.
Note the AVG results, they get the worst rating possible.
Link didnt work
You mean this?
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_08.php (http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_08.php)