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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Russian on August 29, 2006, 01:01:25 PM
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I just picked it up from Big5, and did not even had chance to clean it. Nice 'interesting' markings. (They are also selling M39 for 85$ and M44 for 90$)
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I'd like to pick up a german mauser sometime in the future. When I won't have 125grand in student debt.
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mmmmmm.....cosmoline......... i haven't been looking at C&R sites in a long time (keeps me from spending my rent), but M39 for 85$ and M44 for 90$ that seems a bit high. I got my M39 Excellent condition for $60 shipped. But then again it was two years ago.
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I'll take your Yugo Mauser and up you with!
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Czech Mauser.
Can't never get a good shot of the crest.
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Russian, nice choice. I also have a Yugo 24/47. It's accurate and the 8mm ammo is cheap. The action is a lot smoother than that Mosin you have.
FYI, it will shoot about 6-12" high at 100 yrds. It's battle-sighted for 200 yards. You can use a 6-o'clock hold on the target or get a taller front sight from Springfield Sporters.
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My newest toy should be here any day now. Like a kid in a candy store. I rush home and check for mail. :)
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Yugoslavian M59/66, here's the ad:
These SKS rifles from the former Yugoslavia are definitely not your garden variety Simonov rifle! In addition to the milled receiver, screwed in barrel, milled trigger group and underfolding blade bayonet, these honeys have an integral NATO standard 22mm grenade launcher and flip up sight built right in! In addition to the cool looking launcher, our SKS's have flip up night sights, and a gas system cut off button, ten round fixed magazine and sling swivel! Barrel: 24”, Overall: 43 3/4”. Weight: 9.15 lbs. Curio & Relic Condition: Good
I just got 1000 rounds of 7.62x38R ammo for my Nagant revolvers from them as well, I bought mainly for reloading capability. Only now I hear the Fiocci ammo has a tendency to split at the neck after only 1 or 2 uses, which really stinks. Nobody carries the cheaper Starline brass for it anymore, and the Bertram brass is almost a dollar each! Sheesh.
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Where do you buy the grenades for that, Star?
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Originally posted by Nightshift82
mmmmmm.....cosmoline.........i haven't been looking at C&R sites in a long time (keeps me from spending my rent), but M39 for 85$ and M44 for 90$ that seems a bit high. I got my M39 Excellent condition for $60 shipped. But then again it was two years ago.
If you haven’t noticed my location; I’m from Socialist Republic of California. Therefore those prices are considered a bargain. :D It would be nice to be able to purchase new toys at those prices, but…..
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Originally posted by Makarov9
Russian, nice choice. I also have a Yugo 24/47. It's accurate and the 8mm ammo is cheap. The action is a lot smoother than that Mosin you have.
FYI, it will shoot about 6-12" high at 100 yrds. It's battle-sighted for 200 yards. You can use a 6-o'clock hold on the target or get a taller front sight from Springfield Sporters.
After I tried your Mauser, I wanted to buy one badly. Now since Big-5 dropped price below 100$, I snagged it. When ever we have next Bay Area OClub gathering, I will bring it.
Btw, did you ever think of attaching scope to it?
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
My newest toy should be here any day now. Like a kid in a candy store. I rush home and check for mail. :)
(http://www.centuryarms.com/shop/images/rifles/72l_RI1093_p.jpg)
Yugoslavian M59/66, here's the ad:
These SKS rifles from the former Yugoslavia are definitely not your garden variety Simonov rifle! In addition to the milled receiver, screwed in barrel, milled trigger group and underfolding blade bayonet, these honeys have an integral NATO standard 22mm grenade launcher and flip up sight built right in! In addition to the cool looking launcher, our SKS's have flip up night sights, and a gas system cut off button, ten round fixed magazine and sling swivel! Barrel: 24”, Overall: 43 3/4”. Weight: 9.15 lbs. Curio & Relic Condition: Good
I just got 1000 rounds of 7.62x38R ammo for my Nagant revolvers from them as well, I bought mainly for reloading capability. Only now I hear the Fiocci ammo has a tendency to split at the neck after only 1 or 2 uses, which really stinks. Nobody carries the cheaper Starline brass for it anymore, and the Bertram brass is almost a dollar each! Sheesh.
Nice new toy!
I want to get Nagan, but they don't sell them around here. :( But doesn't it use same round as TT33? (or was it PPsh41?)
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Originally posted by Hawklore
I'll take your Yugo Mauser and up you with!
Should I be impressed? ;) :p
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nice 24/47! I have on too they are great shooters.
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got gome SKS's too. I picked up a few for $69 each a couple years ago.
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I still have my C&R license, but I haven't bought anything in a couple of years. It was getting too expensive. Heck I think I still have a couple rifles I bought but haven't even fired yet.
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Russian, I thought about scoping my 24/47...but I scoped my Enfield instead. To do a good mount on a Mauser it's probably best to tap and drill a mount. I didn't want to go through that hassle. I enjoy shooting it like it is.
I'm also enjoying the scoped Enfield No. 4 Mk1. I used a Cad Technik mount from Brownells. It's rock solid and easy to convert back to the original sights. FYI, Big 5 has been getting in Savage (US made) Enfields in for $159 when on sale. The only down side is it's hard to find good/cheap surplus .303 British ammo. I ended up giving reloading a shot, now I'm enjoying the hobby of reloading .303. I'm now an official gun-nut.
Pic of scoped Enfield (and yes I'm over-compensating with the large scope :) )
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Yes, we need a Bay Area range day soon.
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I know a collector who can get the grenades, but not in this state. If I had any and got caught with them here I'd go to jail lol.
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Originally posted by Russian
Should I be impressed? ;) :p
Heh, no...
Just flaunting my Eastern Europe weapons, and yankin your chain!
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Congrats on your new bouncing baby milsurp rifles guys. I just had a couple of new additions to the family too.
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Dang you Funked! Those are beautiful twins. Did you go through the CMP? What was the costs?
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Those are ODCMP Field Grade, Springfield Armory, $425. Top one is 1942, bottom is 1945. 1942 has better wood but some pitting on the reciever. 1945 has great metal. Both of them need some peening on the gas tube splines though.
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grenade launcher? those are legal too? LOL
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hmmmm... surplus rifles are fun..
lazs
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and looki what mr fedex guy brought me....
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Rifle is cleaned. Plently of ammo. I predict tomorrow will be a fun day.
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You gonna go to Los Altos with me and Mak?
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
You gonna go to Los Altos with me and Mak?
Would love to, but I have things to do tomorrow at the same time you guys meet......
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Originally posted by Furball
grenade launcher? those are legal too? LOL
Furby,
The launcher is simply the extension on the barrel you see in the picture. The actual thing that makes the grenade go somewhere is a blank round, no projectile. You can come out from under your bed now.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Furby,
The launcher is simply the extension on the barrel you see in the picture. The actual thing that makes the grenade go somewhere is a blank round, no projectile. You can come out from under your bed now.
thanks man, that was a rough few days!
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furbie... it is embarassing that a kid of mine (even tho illegitimate) knows so little about firearms.
Come over here to papa and I will get you up to speed on firearms.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
furbie... it is embarassing that a kid of mine (even tho illegitimate) knows so little about firearms.
Come over here to papa and I will get you up to speed on firearms.
lazs
might be over your way in January, for a brit i am not too bad!
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I just got 1000 rounds of 7.62x38R ammo for my Nagant revolvers from them as well, I bought mainly for reloading capability. Only now I hear the Fiocci ammo has a tendency to split at the neck after only 1 or 2 uses, which really stinks. Nobody carries the cheaper Starline brass for it anymore, and the Bertram brass is almost a dollar each! Sheesh.
Reloading Nagant revolver ammo!?
The cartrige top is narrower then the bottom, it's impossible to take away a bullet (believe me, i tried it before i went to school :D), and used cartrige is perfectly cylidrical. I liked to play with empty brass when i was a kid, Father brought me several dozens in boxes.
There also were sporting rounds with lower powder charge and a lead bullet deep down inside the cartrige, also there were shortened rounds with short cartridge, but I don't know for sure if they could be used with ordinary full-lenght cylinders or only with shortened ones.
BTW, I never thought that someone makes Nagant rounds abroad.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Reloading Nagant revolver ammo!?
The cartrige top is narrower then the bottom, it's impossible to take away a bullet (believe me, i tried it before i went to school :D), and used cartrige is perfectly cylidrical. I liked to play with empty brass when i was a kid, Father brought me several dozens in boxes.
There also were sporting rounds with lower powder charge and a lead bullet deep down inside the cartrige, also there were shortened rounds with short cartridge, but I don't know for sure if they could be used with ordinary full-lenght cylinders or only with shortened ones.
BTW, I never thought that someone makes Nagant rounds abroad.
It isnt easy but it is being done. There are forums like this specifically aimed at Nagant revolver owners who trade info on what ammo to use and reloading tricks.
Lee is the only company that lists reloading hardware for the Nagant round, but if you order it from the factory you will get a shell holder for a .32-20. You have to call them and tell them you are specifically reloading Nagant 7.62x38R brass and then they'll send you the correct parts. I understand RCBS is now making reloading hardware for the Nagant.
Fiocci has been producing the ammo for a few years now, as the original Russian military stuff gets more difficult to find. The inferior brass they use though is an issue, and the fact that all I can get is FMJ rounds. I would have expected Wolf to make the ammo if anyone did, being they are a Russian company, but they are a bit slow coming into the market. They will be welcome though. They have a big name with mil. sup. shooters.
Yes, the Nagant cartride is very ......... weird ........ but thats half the fun of shooting it. And of learning to reload it. Its a challenge.
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Nagant revolver is still a standard weapon for non-military government security and people like state-owned bank employees. When one of my girl-friends worked in Sberbank - they got training with Nagants in the shooting range every 6 months. There was so many Nagant ammo produced here that it will still be used in XXII century I think...
Father was a pistol-shooter, sports, when he served in Leningrad, still holds a LenVO record in PM shooting. He said they used Nagants as "free-style" weapons, with anatomical grips and machine-gun heavy barrles (shortened ;)). He said that Nagant is probably as accurate as a hand-gun can ever be.
Estel got a 1940 Nagant rechambered for gas/traumatic ammo, it's all we are allowed to posess here :( Looks impressive, this days noone believes that a PM is a real gun, they make too many gas/traumatic/pneumatic versions, but noone will ever think that a Nagant isn't real :)
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and now for the most fun part.....cleaning....again. What is that saying, if you like ridding down mountain, you should enjoy taking sled back up that mountain.
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Mauser was having little problems. Firing pin needs to more forward, and extractor sometimes doesn’t grab round properly.
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the nagant is a very weak round in a very large revolver. It is about equal to a .32 auto.
It shares one thing with another famous .32.... the walther PP in that it was the weapon of choice for shooting helpless dissedents and undesirables in the back of the head while kneeling over their graves.
It is, like the walther, more than adequate for this job.
You can pull the bullet from a nagant round with an inertia bullet puller quite easily. You can also buy a cyl that converts the gun to .32 auto
The fact that the cyl moves forward creates the worst double action trigger pull of any revolver made to date.
All in all... unless the little extra bit of silencing it gives you is all important...
all in all... the nagant is a complex solution to a non existent problem.
It is like someone set out to make a revolver as useless as they could.
lazs