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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StarOfAfrica2 on September 03, 2006, 12:53:17 PM
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Booking my flight for a trip home and I notice Northwest is still flying DC-10s between Honolulu and Minneapolis. And hey, cool, DC-9's between Minneapolis and St Louis! I thought only cargo haulers were flying DC-10s now. I know I see FedEx and UPS flying them out of here. Normally I hate this part of the trip, 7-9 hours of nothing to see in a cramped seat beside some joker with BO. The novelty of flying in a DC-10 ought to kill at least a couple of hours. :)
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yes flying in a DC-10 is a experience as long as you don't have to sit next to Shamu:D
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Booking my flight for a trip home and I notice Northwest is still flying DC-10s between Honolulu and Minneapolis. And hey, cool, DC-9's between Minneapolis and St Louis! I thought only cargo haulers were flying DC-10s now. I know I see FedEx and UPS flying them out of here. Normally I hate this part of the trip, 7-9 hours of nothing to see in a cramped seat beside some joker with BO. The novelty of flying in a DC-10 ought to kill at least a couple of hours. :)
Other companies fly them too, but they are moving mainly into the non-sched charter arena now.
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Heck NWA is using them on their MSP/AMS legs too. I had a couple trips in them back in January. Can't say I felt all fuzzy with nostalgia as I got to hear from the inside that distinctive rattling noise DC-10s make while climbing out at full power. Nor did I or the other 300 pax enjoy the forced screening of "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" as sprayed across the bulkhead by a more-or-less calibrated 3-projector system (inside middle seat for me, of course). The only amusing part of both trips was the landing in AMS with limited visibility due to fog. He thunked it good. Best part was the pilot who did the landing also had his parents on board -- I was behind them on the jetway, and it was fun listening to him try to blame his landing on the "lack of depth perception in fog".
I didn't take the continuation to Mumbai, but I hear that leg of the flight can be entertaining.
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Northwest has 12 active DC10s (http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Northwest%20Airlines.htm)
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Just watch out for muslims wearing teeshirts :)
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My condolences on flying Northworst, Star. Be careful of their flight attendants; those old ladies will do violence to you if you look at them crooked. And don't eat the green meat omlette if it's a morning flight. :eek:
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Had an interesting experience on an L-1011 a few years ago out of Chicago to New York. I was on the right side just infront of the engine. On climbout the throttle was pulled back and there was a noticable pop. They were Rolls Royce engines. I called the stewardess over and asked "Is there something wrong with the right engine?" She seemed to say no, but seemed a little concerned, and then came back after about 3 minutes. Her face ashen white and said "You know a bit about these engines don't you?...to which I replied (Yes, quite a bit) She leaned over with a "Thank you for not saying anything."
We continued on to New York La Guardia and landed with the remaining 2 engines, the passengers didn't notice.
Wolf
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Had an interesting experience on an L-1011 a few years ago out of Chicago to New York. I was on the right side just infront of the engine. On climbout the throttle was pulled back and there was a noticable pop. They were Rolls Royce engines. I called the stewardess over and asked "Is there something wrong with the right engine?" She seemed to say no, but seemed a little concerned, and then came back after about 3 minutes. Her face ashen white and said "You know a bit about these engines don't you?...to which I replied (Yes, quite a bit) She leaned over with a "Thank you for not saying anything."
We continued on to New York La Guardia and landed with the remaining 2 engines, the passengers didn't notice.
Wolf
How much do you really know about jet engines?
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Originally posted by Rolex
My condolences on flying Northworst, Star. Be careful of their flight attendants; those old ladies will do violence to you if you look at them crooked. And don't eat the green meat omlette if it's a morning flight. :eek:
i concur and second that advice.
;)
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This was not my experience on two recent rides.
One out of DCA & another out of MLS.
I think teh .gov make them put :O hot stewardesses :O on the DC flights
:noid :noid :noid :noid :furious :furious :mad:
dont miss the Blackbird near the national guard hangars at MLS:noid
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Originally posted by Dago
How much do you really know about jet engines?
Was working on my A&P at the time and my uncle troubleshoots GE engines - runs in the family.
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Dago,
It doesn't take much for a guy with turbine experience to know that when the throttle spools back and goes "pop", it's not a good sign :) It's not quite as bad as when it goes "pop" and then spools UP in a shrieking whine before spooling back, but still...
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.. an if little shooting stars kinda fan out from near the mid section .. and the 'whine' changes sounds to more like a roaring bonfire ..and flames stream out the back and sometimes out the front with equal force ..
.. well .. the engine guys are gonna have a bad day.
Engine runup after new install on an F-4D ..crewcheif could not locate a pin for the intake screen ..so he 'improvised' and used the pin attached to the canopy strut brace, letting it dangle below the intake.
Yanno ..that is a purty good chunk o' metal .. and damned if that pin was *not* the correct size ..and during runup apparantly the screen worked loose with vibration just enough to let that big chunk of metal get sucked right on in. (read this a few days later in the accident report)
I was workin 2 planes down, around 2am.. saw the light show beginnin with the lil shootin stars ..kinda cool I thought .. till I keyed in on the sounds comin from that revetment.
The blast of flame comin outta the front of the plane lit up the flightline purty good, too.
I mean .. it got *everyone's* attention.. and I saw what was probably the crewcheif running. Expediter truck came over fast, screeched to a halt, guy jumped out . . and shut her down. By then it sounded like a loud barbecue ..not like a jet at all.
-Udorn-Thani, 1975 .. just another day on the line.
(I have a photo somewhere of me standin in front of that particular revetment with that F-4 in it, taken a day or so before this happened)
-GE
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Was working on my A&P at the time and my uncle troubleshoots GE engines - runs in the family.
That doesnt work out to a lot really.
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Originally posted by Dago
That doesnt work out to a lot really.
How much do you need to know about turbine engines to know that something's not right when they go bump in the night?
Or is it because he has some knowledge you need to prove how much more you know? Get over yourself for cryin' out loud. You do know Wolf knows what he's talking about, right?
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Originally posted by Golfer
How much do you need to know about turbine engines to know that something's not right when they go bump in the night?
Or is it because he has some knowledge you need to prove how much more you know? Get over yourself for cryin' out loud. You do know Wolf knows what he's talking about, right?
Get a life newbie. I didn't say he didn't know anything, but I doubt he was at the point of knowing "quite a lot".
You of all guys shouldnt point fingers, you come on this board pretending to be "thee avaition expert" and you are just a beginner in the aviation world.
Ever figure out the differance between autothrottles and autothrust? Last time I remember you trying to say there was no differance. And oh yeah, you tried to point out the instinctive disconnect button as proof of a go-aroud button on a Airbus. :rofl
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Umm, with all due respect, how much experience in the aviation world do we need to post on a cartoon plane BBS? Compared to the average person, he DOES know alot about such things. Compared to you maybe not, but I bet he was more knowledgeable than the stewardess lol. :)
Methinks you just like to stir the pot a bit and see what floats to the top.
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Originally posted by Dago
Get a life newbie. I didn't say he didn't know anything, but I doubt he was at the point of knowing "quite a lot".
You of all guys shouldnt point fingers, you come on this board pretending to be "thee avaition expert" and you are just a beginner in the aviation world.
Ever figure out the differance between autothrottles and autothrust? Last time I remember you trying to say there was no differance. And oh yeah, you tried to point out the instinctive disconnect button as proof of a go-aroud button on a Airbus. :rofl
You'll find this posted by me in that same thread:
Dated 7/12/06. I'm sure you're familliar with every system of the XL/XLS so I won't bore you with the details of a FADEC because you already know everything there is to know.
Oh thank heavens...now I'll finally know what those little bumps are when you move the throttles in an XLS and what they do.
What would I do without you, Dago? Always there with constructive statements like "newbie" and public services like making sure you put me in my place.
I don't need to pretend to be an expert to poke at some of the statements you make. The people that bother me most are the ones that are too proud to be a pilot and also the ones that need to make sure everyone knows it. We've got a couple guys like that and will go out of their way to wear their uniforms whenever possible. You strike me as that kind of person. Simply because you're a pilot, wrench, flight attendant or any other occupation in aviation it's your civic duty to make sure everyone knows it and constantly prove your superiority.
It's not hard to see yourself snub your nose and read between the lines trying to demean someone's statment; which was a quote in the first place. I'd trust Wolfala's and even Bodhi's judgement and character above yours. I know where he stands and his knowledge/experience in what he does you really can't argue with. You on the other hand don't need to worry about me. I'm not running for resident aviation expert so your position is safe from me. Watch out for Chairboy, though ;)
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My one bit of advice on aviation knowledge is this:
The day anyone feels they know it all or know more than anyone else, is the day I am not flying, working on, or being any where near anything you touch that is remotely aviation related.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Umm, with all due respect, how much experience in the aviation world do we need to post on a cartoon plane BBS? Compared to the average person, he DOES know alot about such things. Compared to you maybe not, but I bet he was more knowledgeable than the stewardess lol. :)
Methinks you just like to stir the pot a bit and see what floats to the top.
im PP/ASEL
i pwn
IA also & a complex AND high performance :O endorsement as well
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:aok :aok :rofl :rofl :mad: :D
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Dago,
I've been flying since 1993, which works out to be 13 years and since age 12. If you want to look into the certifications, be my guest. Goto the faa webpage (https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/default.asp)
Type your info in, then when you get to the page, type my info as follows:
First / last: Alexander Wolf
DOB: 12191980
ST: California
City: Los Gatos
Country: United States
Zip: 95032
There are always guys with more experience - and knowing it all is not a new falacy, its an age old falacy in a modern dress. This business of leaving the ground for all of us is a commerice that relies on overweening optimism.
When pilots takeoff, they also take leave of their more conservative senses. Because, if they could witness close at hand the tortured iron that sustains them up there, they might just realize how slender the mechanical thread that sews aviation together is. The pistons, valves, struts, longerons, transistors, usually perform anonymously, which is just fine with me. Like workers on an assembly line, the individual parts never attract any attention until they refuse to work.
The suggestion that there is a degree of fraility to this mechanical circus is difficult to face. For starters, those here who are drivers themselves, it batters at the airmans carefully shored up faith that the flight he is about to make is a predestined success. The foundations of this faith are statistics, which overwealmly support this.
But, things do break. I'm a professional pilot and teacher, therefore by proclaimation I have a lot of knowlege. And knowlege is life during these moments.
Wolf
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I think Dago is the one that should get a life. What a jerk.
And yes, I'm a newbie too, but I'm good at spotting jerks.
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Golfer, I find your post ironic because it is you who consistantly wants to come on this board and remind everyone you are a pilot, and you consistantly place yourself in the position of "expert of all things aviation".
In aviation you run into a lot of "experts", but a rare few actually have a clue.
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Dago I disagree. I'll answer questions and provide insights with limitations to what I know. You won't find me talking shop in game but on very rare occasions and usually those conversations end up on private channels.
I'm not going to give unsolicited chest thumps or statements but I'm always going to try to help. I try to be constructive rather than condescending (with I'll admit one exception to a certain jumpseater) and give my own opinion on others ideas. Chairboy and I don't have any issues though we diverge in opinions regarding various experimental aircraft ideas. It's his choice and that makes it great. It's actually kind of fun trying to chime in promptly...eh chair?
Again where we differ:
I try to help, educate and learn. You consistantly try to talk down, berate and embarass. It's not going to work with me and it's not going to stop me from lurking and posting if something's going the wrong direction.
If you have a problem with that then we're always going to have a problem.
I'd also challenge you to find any posts under 3 years old that have me going out of the way to beat my own drum. The novelty of being a pilot wore off just about the same time as I got the certificate.
When I'm in the bar I'm usually a rubber chipper. Without rubber chippers to remove the black rubber marks from the runway pilots would have no idea where to land.
Back to topic:
have a good trip, SoA.
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Ahem, I was going to mention my experience in jet engines, 14 years in an airmotive, Pratt & Whitney, dependable engines and all that, but maybe not.
I'll just tell the story of the 727 when the no 2 engine surged, bangs like mortar fire and flames shooting out the back. Prone to it I believe. Don't know what the passengers thought was happening. Bet there was screaming involved. :O
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Originally posted by Golfer
...eh chair?
Yo, what Golfer said.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Yo, what Golfer said.
Fro sho nizzle fo shizzle?
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Word.
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Amazing. I share a little of my nostalgic moment at booking a flight on a DC-10 and within the first page it turns into a noodle measuring contest. I thought those were limited to the gun and "my country is better than yours" threads.
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You're assuming that a different set of posters populate this board.