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Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Eagler on May 28, 2001, 09:11:00 PM
Thanks to those mean ole republicans and minimum $300 back to each tax payer! Plus lower tax bracket, win win situation. Amazing to think the dems think they deserve my own money more than I do...
Wonder if my wife will give me her $300 for another 10 months, er doubt it   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Eagler
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Nash on May 28, 2001, 10:09:00 PM
That's it? This is yer big tax break? 300 bucks?

Lol.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Fatty on May 29, 2001, 01:58:00 AM
On top of the cuts Nash, but your premise is right.  It's a one time payoff hoping we'll forget this would (could) be increased long term cuts.

Can't pay off everyone?  They're trying hard to prove that wrong.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Tuomio on May 29, 2001, 04:14:00 AM
DOnt whine, couse here in Finland weve had booming economy (becouse the Nokia got the mobile phone markets to itself) for 5-8 years or so and all we got was 0,5% lower taxes..And we have the worlds most heavy taxes after Sweden.

Usually the minimum wage guy has 28% tax rate plus the million other hidden taxes like the ALV(22% for every sold piece of thing) and for new cars 20%+22% (yes tax for taxes). The cheapest new cars you can get are usually well over 14000$.

If your income is a little higher than minimum, its no wonder to get 30-40% tax rate for it..  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
This list goes almost forever, and i could mention, that we have usually 30km trip to our jobs and 95 octane gas costs over 1$ per litre, as our gasoline has 75% tax in it.

So, thats what you get when you have socialdemocrats in power!

Edit: I forgot to mention the most important tax and its the spirits tax which is 80%!

[This message has been edited by Tuomio (edited 05-29-2001).]
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Heater on May 29, 2001, 04:37:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Tuomio:
DOnt whine, couse here in Finland weve had booming economy (becouse the Nokia got the mobile phone markets to itself) for 5-8 years or so and all we got was 0,5% lower taxes..And we have the worlds most heavy taxes after Sweden.

Usually the minimum wage guy has 28% tax rate plus the million other hidden taxes like the ALV(22% for every sold piece of thing) and for new cars 20%+22% (yes tax for taxes). The cheapest new cars you can get are usually well over 14000$.

If your income is a little higher than minimum, its no wonder to get 30-40% tax rate for it..    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
This list goes almost forever, and i could mention, that we have usually 30km trip to our jobs and 95 octane gas costs over 1$ per litre, as our gasoline has 75% tax in it.

So, thats what you get when you have socialdemocrats in power!

Edit: I forgot to mention the most important tax and its the spirits tax which is 80%!

[This message has been edited by Tuomio (edited 05-29-2001).]

Don't squeak too much, I pay 52% taxes on my income and we are paying $1.35 per liter

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Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: jihad on May 29, 2001, 05:14:00 AM
Dorkyas Tax *Cut*  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Looks like it's back to "The Bad Old Days" aka RaYGuNz voodoo economics.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Boroda on May 29, 2001, 06:23:00 AM
Well, it reminds me of a last agony of the Soviet regime: April, 1991, when all the prices went up 60-100% and EVERYONE got extra 60 rubles per month to his salary.

Tuomio, as for alcohol taxes - AFAIK the tour bus to Len... sorry, St.Peterburg from Helsinki and back will cost you about $9. You can enjoy cheap and fine booth there  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

What we have here in Russia is a usual nonsence. This year income tax dropped down to 13% (thirteen percent, no kidding), and TV shouts it every 15 minutes, without warning the taxpayers that now you have to pay for the year 2000, that is good old progressive scale up to 50%.

It's all about only income tax, but if you have a private enterprise and honestly pay all taxes for it - you have to give all your profit to the allmighty state and will still owe them extra 10%. How about it?

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Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: 1776 on May 29, 2001, 07:20:00 AM
I can't wait till the final vote.  12 Dems voted for the tax cut. I wonder how many more will vote for it after the conference?

There currently are 38 Senators who believe that the government knows more then the individual.  I wonder how many of the 38 are up for election in 2002?  Wonder how many will be reelected?
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: NHFoxtro on May 29, 2001, 07:20:00 AM
I'll believe it when the check clears.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Staga on May 29, 2001, 07:28:00 AM
I got a letter from our tax-office:
They're sending me back +1300$ from tax-year 2000 thought money will be on my bank in December.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: SeaWulfe on May 29, 2001, 07:51:00 AM
I got 219$ back... woohoo! I mean uhm.... damn it!
-SW
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Pongo on May 29, 2001, 10:04:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Nash:
That's it? This is yer big tax break? 300 bucks?

Lol.

Ya thats like 1000 canadian dollars nash.
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Creamo on May 29, 2001, 10:18:00 AM
$300 back, INSTEAD of RAISING my taxes to start some bleeding heart new program, is in fact substancial.

I know I should feel guilty that after giving the government 30% of my income, God forbid they gave me alittle back thinking I could be responsible enough to invest it or something.

Ha! Who am I kidding. That brand new metal Thrustmaster hotas is going to be sweet. (yeah SOB, I'll try it, just so I can say I have one and the Saitek is better  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Ripsnort on May 29, 2001, 10:32:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Nash:
That's it? This is yer big tax break? 300 bucks?

Lol.

Its not the amount, its the concept...it is his money, whether is be one penny or 300 bucks, its his.

Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: AKDejaVu on May 29, 2001, 10:47:00 AM
Seems I read the $300 is the minimum check people will recieve as part of this "refund" and $600 will be the maximum.  At least that's what I got from this article (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/2001-05-29-snag.htm#more) on USA Today.com (http://www.usatoday.com).

AKDejaVu
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: -ammo- on May 29, 2001, 10:50:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Nash:
That's it? This is yer big tax break? 300 bucks?

Lol.

You laugh at $300 a year in cash? Man you must have money to burn nash..
My address is 400 Carswell Lane, Gol....USA

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Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: SeaWulfe on May 29, 2001, 10:51:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Seems I read the $300 is the minimum check people will recieve as part of this "refund" and $600 will be the maximum.  At least that's what I got from this article (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/2001-05-29-snag.htm#more) on USA Today.com (http://www.usatoday.com).

AKDejaVu


Hey! Those bastards only gave me 219$ back!!! I don't even work year round, don't you have to make a minimum a year to have taxes taken out and kept?

I work for the government, I'm getting screwed both ways...

*sigh* I guess I'll use my refund to buy ky jelly... I'm getting raped every which way.
-SW
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: 1776 on May 29, 2001, 01:59:00 PM
Nash, they ever lower taxes in Canada?

How's the healthcare there?  What Canadian government programs do you currently use?

What percentage of your income goes to the Canadian government?

Are you getting your monies worth???  Is it pointless to try and get ahead on your side of the border, income wise??

Can ya own a gun without government permission and still be a legal citizen(or is that government slave)?
 
Title: Aces High - 10 Months Free!!!
Post by: Lephturn on May 29, 2001, 02:26:00 PM
As a Canuck:

Yes, they lowered taxes a tiny bit recently.  We're still in debt to our eyes though, so no big breaks for a while yet.  The US is in a simalar situation though isn't it?  Not having a deficit is one thing... but you don't really reap the rewards until you pay down the debt and stop paying a huge % of your tax dollars to service debt every year.

Heathcare is typically socialized.  IE: The base heathcare is pretty good.  It's not great.  If you have no money, Canada is a great place to be sick.  If you have money and need something expensive done quickly, you fly to the US and have it done.

Hmmm... Income taxes are in the 30-50% range depending on income.  The problem is all the other taxes that get tacked on.  Provincial and Federal sales taxes combine for 15% here in Nova Scotia.  Gas is taxed hugely... like 100% when you add them all up.  Over 1/2 of the gas prices we pay is various taxes.  We're at like 80 cents a Litre or so now.  What percentage of my income goes to the government right now?  Likely close to 50% when all is said and done.

Getting my monies worth?  Hmmm, depends who you ask and what province they live in.  Basically it works like this in my opinion:  If you have minimal skills and are on the low end of the pay scale, Canada is a great place to live.  If you have lots of marketeable skills and are on the high side of the pay scale, Canada sucks, you move to the US.  Once your income breaks about $60K a year, your better off down south I think.

I don't know about the gun thing.  Don't care.  Some of you folks in the US have taken a law designed to keep the British from invading and turned it into something else entirely IMHO.  Hint:  They cancelled the invasion.  They are not coming.

Lephturn