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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: FT_Animal on September 03, 2006, 07:28:20 PM
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I just found I have a Radion 9000 64MB laying here. Don't even know if it works or not. But how well would the game run on this card on a PIII 933, 512 MB RAM?
What issues should I be aware of?
Currently I'm using a Pny Geforce 4 MX 420 and getting an average of about 35-50 fps.
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all you have enough of is ram.....it would be choppy on that cpu no matter what video card you use. it would run, but this game is really cpu dependant.
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well..even the ram is a bit small.
you are probably looking at an upgrade in computer.
RTR
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that Ati 9000 is probely worse then your gf4 card ...
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those without can't be choosie, I gave and mailed one of the 9000 64 meg cards ( not an SE version ) to someone and they were more than happy......
granted as Roscoroo mentioned it isn't that great a card, but it will work in the game, use Cat 4.12 drivers with it if I recall correctly.......
do not pre cache skins or textures ( disable them )
and turn everything to max performance........you might get close to 40 frames unless u in a gaggle, then you be dipping in the high teens, well with an Athlon XP1800 that is what I was getting with 512 ram.......
YMMV~~~
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Originally posted by buzkill
all you have enough of is ram.....it would be choppy on that cpu no matter what video card you use. it would run, but this game is really cpu dependant.
Well sorry, but that's not correct. No offence intended.
I had a PIII 450, 256 ram and a Geforce 4 *MX* 420 that would pull this game at 25-35fps in low conditions.
I have the same card in now pulling 25-55fps.
Agree in large hords I would prolly suffer miserably, but the need of a monster machine is not really accurate. It's great if you have one, but it's not the all time the golden rule. It's all in the way you tweak the machine.
I know that I was pulling some fps on my 450 that some had problem pulling with a 1.8 ghz with 512. Simply because their machine had bottle necks that had not be removed. And I mean starting from the bios and working your way up to the end result.
I TOTALLY understand what you are though, don't get me wrong. But the rule of having the biggest baddest machine available is a bit of a myth.
Grimm and I showed examples a long time ago just to prove this exact point. We both had PIII 450s that would pull the game to an extent. PLayable in hords? no way, but we were making a point that unless you tweak a machine properly it doesn't matter what you have.
I'm sure I came off wrong here, but I was just trying to make a point different POV.
;-)
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
that Ati 9000 is probely worse then your gf4 card ...
Thats' what I wanted to hear, well not really but it helps;-)
thanks
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Originally posted by RTR
well..even the ram is a bit small.
you are probably looking at an upgrade in computer.
RTR
LOL I was lucky to peice this together through free spare parts here and there. I knew straight out of th ebox I need more then I have, But I want to play, not sit on the sidelines waiting like I did the last 2-3 years. ;-)
For now I'm stuck with what I have.
But ya, you're right.
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Animal, my 40 fps for most part was flying in about 6 to 10 planes from like 2k alt and up , staying away from smoking fields that had been blown away from bombers....and mass 20+ plane furballs.......vsync on as usual......
also, I flew with screen rez set to 1024 x 768 and locked the framerate at 60, also my refresh on my monitor and all was set to 75 mhz, and always use your monitor's Driver, not the windows plug n play driver, which I am sure you already knew this, haven't checked your website in a long time, any new updates? addy still the same?
good to see you wanting to get back into it ~S~
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Animal, my 40 fps for most part was flying in about 6 to 10 planes from like 2k alt and up , staying away from smoking fields that had been blown away from bombers....and mass 20+ plane furballs.......vsync on as usual......
also, I flew with screen rez set to 1024 x 768 and locked the framerate at 60, also my refresh on my monitor and all was set to 75 mhz, and always use your monitor's Driver, not the windows plug n play driver, which I am sure you already knew this, haven't checked your website in a long time, any new updates? addy still the same?
good to see you wanting to get back into it ~S~
Hey man, can't wait to get back in. Actually since I left
I always turned my vsync off, old school rule, I guess I'll try it on and see.
I'm flying at 1024 too, 32-bit, 75 mhz.
There's an OLD web site of mine (AW Tech Hangar) still up pre XP from AW Kesmai\EA.com days. Last I checked it was never taken down after I closed the account. But I would think most of that info is pretty irrelivant today.
The last one *AH* Tech Hangar. I went through some finacial stress and lost the server. I still have the site locally, if anyone wants to post it their more then welcome to it. Pretty damn large though. Lot cool stuff and info. But I just can't afford to post it right now. Devorice has a tendacy to do things like that .
Right now what's holding me back is I have my X45 apart and going to attempt to fix the broken stem ears. Plastic crap ya know. I'm going to move the wires to one side and run a 1/4" fiberglass rod through it to replace the borken ears, then I'm going to fill the holo cavity of the stem to strengthen it,... Hotrod it as much as I can.
I'd say I'm about days to a week and you'll see me getting shot down often ;-)
Tell ya though, ol HT and Pyro and crew REALLY did this game up nice. They continue to impress the heck out of me, from where they started. I have to admit, in 99\2000 or so I had my doubts how far it would go, only because they didn't have a huge backing, that I know of. They proved a LOT of people wrong. Including myself. There's no turning back now. ;-)
If they ever sell out to EA.com I will personally hunt them down and leave poop on their doorstep, my poop. ;-)
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Originally posted by buzkill
all you have enough of is ram.....it would be choppy on that cpu no matter what video card you use. it would run, but this game is really cpu dependant.
DERNIT!
Yur prolly right to a point. I was looking at the memory draw from 512, used was in the 300s, that's not the buffer I want or need, I'm going to have to get another stick of ram. (bet we all heard that one before)
As for the CPU, the MB I have right now I'm not real familar with yet, I've only had it a week and not really paid too much attension to it, was a freebie. If it can handle a CPU upgrade then thats also a direction I prolly need to go too.
SO far building this machine has cost me $0 ;-)
Lotta elbow grease mixed wit wishful thinking ;-)
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512 ram is fine for AH. I ran it for years (including 2.0) on 320MB RAM. I had an old PIII 650MHz and that just couldn't handle it. Oh, no doubt it runs WAY better on my current 1.5GB RAM, but that's a luxury. If you're just trying to get it to run, 512 does it great.
Several folks are saying they play on 1GHz or 1.5GHz. Some are on celerons and such but a PIII isn't *that* bad. You should be able to turn all the detail sliders down (might need to set them all the way to minimum, or "performance" as it's not called I think). Just avoid carrier groups (massive polygon count) and lots of bomber formations (new B17s/B24s have more detail now as well).
Video is another matter. I have what I would consider a decent video card, but it just doesn't cut it in modern games. Check my sig for details. It causes some stutters in AH. Less since I got a reliable power supply, but there are still stutters. Avoid fires and smokes from ground objects, and plane that leaves a fire trail anywher within 100 miles of you is going to drop you to 5fps. Use 256 texture resolution (or less, 256=default), turn off skins if things get bad. Turn off "gun effects" "vehicle effects" and the like, as these all require more things to be rendered. Turn animated water off for sure (I do because it looks better off). Leave the "optimize objects" and "optimize terrains" but uncheck anything else you don't think you need.
That's how I got by for a long time, on my old rig.
P.S. What did my old rig in was the processor. It just couldn't handle AH2 as well as Ah2.
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Ti 4400's were good cards but they are over 4 years old now, i'd say you got ur money's worth out of that one .
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I've only had it for about a year now, actually. I got it second hand. Before that I was using a GeForce 256 DDR (32MB). THAT could barely function in AH (actually it couldn't, not after AH2 came out).
I know I need a new card, I've needed one for 3 years or so, but it's the $$$ issue. I really want a nice ge6800GT or 7600 but they're all $160 or so.
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I hear ya on the $$$ situation , ive been eyeing conroe, but cant really justify doing it for what i do (AH /web browsing), my system is plenty . I'm sure a new 6/7 series nvidia or X8xxx/X1xxxx Ati would make ur system complete. I build/repair pc in my area and come across good used stuff when im salvaging or upgrading , i'll keep an eye out .
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I get tons of stuff from there ^^^^ sometimes even free .
Just cruise thru the seattle computer page and you'll see i'm in used pc heaven.