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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: skysnipr on September 05, 2006, 10:49:49 PM
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For some reason I am unable to fly a Me 163 online, it's not that I don't have enough perks, the name just appears in gray and it says "you are unable to fly your plane from this field" if I try to fly it. Now that I think about it, I have never seen a Me 163 being flown around in the MA, or even seen someone land victories in one.
Why would they bother to put the plane in there if you can't even fly it?:huh I think it would be great for blasting formations of heavies that fly over your base at 15k, all you have to do is take off and point your nose up, and in a minute or two you are there.
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There are only 3 bases that have the 163 enabled and these are usually near the HQ.
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You can only fly the 163 from the bases surrounding the HQ, where you'll usually encounter high-alt buffs that are bombing it.
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Only 1 base per country has 163 enabled, and like zorstorer & rtsigma said, itīs near the HQ.
On big maps HQ raids are rare unless the "front" has closed in on one countries, so thatīs the reason you donīt have seen any pilot landing kills in a Me 163 (But yesterday I did see several, including mine :D )
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Would be awesome to fly a 163 to a front-based airfield, land and stop exactly on the rearming pad, you'll have another go with it :)
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Originally posted by skysnipr
For some reason I am unable to fly a Me 163 online, it's not that I don't have enough perks, the name just appears in gray and it says "you are unable to fly your plane from this field" if I try to fly it. Now that I think about it, I have never seen a Me 163 being flown around in the MA, or even seen someone land victories in one.
Why would they bother to put the plane in there if you can't even fly it?:huh I think it would be great for blasting formations of heavies that fly over your base at 15k, all you have to do is take off and point your nose up, and in a minute or two you are there.
I think part of the reason that the 163 isn't used more often is that its fuel load is pitiful and since you can only fly it from near the HQ, you run out of fuel before you can meaningfully engage the enemy.
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Originally posted by skysnipr
Why would they bother to put the plane in there if you can't even fly it?:huh I think it would be great for blasting formations of heavies that fly over your base at 15k, all you have to do is take off and point your nose up, and in a minute or two you are there.
exactly why it is not allowed at every base. it would be too much of an imbalancer to the game.
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Dogfighting against and in a 163 is difficult. Mainly because you're a small target, you don't have many rounds to make snap shots and such, your small fuel supply and the fact that you are very vulnerable when landing.
The 163 is just meant to get to altitude quickly, make a few passes on the bomber stream, run out of fuel usually, and glide back down. I think at max you can get 10 mins out of the tank.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
exactly why it is not allowed at every base. it would be too much of an imbalancer to the game.
It wouldn't be an imbalancer because it's perked. You have shell out somewhere around 40-60 perks for it.
And since it's really not much good as a dogfighter, it would be used against bombers almost exclusively, as it is currently when you actually get a chance.
Anyway, thanks for the replies guys, I was a little confused about that, although I think it's sort of dumb.
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163s are fun to fly. I fly em any chance I get. They can turn with a spit5 and if things get hairy then high tail it out of there.
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If they make em for all bases i got 6k perks to waste.:D :p
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Originally posted by skysnipr
And since it's really not much good as a dogfighter, it would be used against bombers almost exclusively, as it is currently when you actually get a chance.
You couldn't be any further from the truth, IMO it is hands down the BEST fighter plane in the game. Nothing makes me happier than to log on and see that the enemy is near my HQ so I can up a 163 and start whooping ass. Nothing can outrun it, and when you get it slow and drop the flaps pretty much nothing can out turn it. If it was enabled at every base they would have to charge 500 perks for them.
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Gotta agree with Geary...it's probably the best fighter in the game although you certainly need to learn how to use it. Because it has very little fuel you have to manage it by boosting to alt and then spending most of your time with the engine off. When you're about out of fuel zoom for altitude and the damn thing will glide forever. The potato guns are incredible, if you can hit something. This takes practice....lots and lots of practice, and lead....lots and lots of lead (also helps if you set your forward views correctly). Biggest mistake I've seen is folks stay way too fast in it (hint, use the landing skid as a speedbrake). It'll easily maneuver at 80 kts with flaps down and then get you out of a fight with great acceleration. Best I've ever done in it was 10 kills in one fight, all bombers and fighters in a big old Rook raid. Was going to re-arm and re-up for more but the damn thing taxis like crap ;-)
Oh...forgot to mention a strange bug on the 163....anyone notice that the RAT (the small prop on the nose) works in concert with the throttle? Shut the rocket down and the prop stops....not exactly right.
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Just thought id say, theres a funny sound pack out there, that when you start an Me-163 engines, it plays the theme from Jaws
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Originally posted by Mace2004
the RAT (the small prop on the nose)
Whats that for anyway?
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It's a generator AFAIK.
So, a windmill ;)
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Originally posted by Angus
It's a generator AFAIK.
So, a windmill ;)
LOL!!! If only it recharged our fuel... :(
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Originally posted by Reynolds
LOL!!! If only it recharged our fuel... :(
Learn how to manage it and you wont need a recharge. You can take a 163 almost a full sector on a 1/4 tank of fuel, and have 1/2 a tank to kill with, and the last 1/4 to get you home again.
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163's CAN get across a map, but you will have to keep your gear and keep your throttle back so you can save gas to make it to the next base and re arm.
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Originally posted by justfreds
163's CAN get across a map, but you will have to keep your gear and keep your throttle back so you can save gas to make it to the next base and re arm.
Oh yeah, Ive done that. Its just real boreing, and since im a horrible fighter pilot, its pointless, because it would take hours to get to the fight, and then id die in about 5 minutes!
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Originally posted by justfreds
163's CAN get across a map, but you will have to keep your gear and keep your throttle back so you can save gas to make it to the next base and re arm.
Uhhhhhhh...and how exactly would you keep your gear since they drop away automatically? Take it out of auto climb as soon as you lift off?
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I'll answer my own question. I just tried it and sure enough, you can keep your gear if you do a manual takeoff or override autoTO as soon as you're airborne....I can see it now...163's roaming the length of the front line chasing down LaLas, Ponys, Tempests, etc. Cool.
Mace
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Originally posted by Mace2004
I'll answer my own question. I just tried it and sure enough, you can keep your gear if you do a manual takeoff or override autoTO as soon as you're airborne....I can see it now...163's roaming the length of the front line chasing down LaLas, Ponys, Tempests, etc. Cool.
Mace
Yeah, I went to the TA to learn to do it a while ago, I just forget WHY I did it...
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Originally posted by Mace2004
I can see it now...163's roaming the length of the front line chasing down LaLas, Ponys, Tempests, etc. Cool.
Mace
Personally, nothing puts a smile on my face quicker than anyone stupid enough to bring a 262 within icon range of my Komet :)
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too bad the gear have no breaks if you keep them :cry
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I lose most all of my fighter perks when I come up a few feet short of the rearm pad trying to ferry one to the front lines.
Once there, it causes much gnashing of teeth much like the A6M3 did when it first came out.
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Hey icepak how you get that baby up to 95k the best ive been able to get is 70k
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Hey icepak how you get that baby up to 95k the best ive been able to get is 70k
Seeing Morph in the text buffer, I'd wager that he was in the TA.
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best fighter in the game hands down. . .it is a good thing they are only from back bases.
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Hey icepak how you get that baby up to 95k the best ive been able to get is 70k
Training arena but I took off from a sea level base.
The fuel burn setting of an arena does not affect the 163 burn rate.
I'm sure I can get over 100,000 in the main arena if I take off from a 5k base.
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too bad the gear have no breaks if you keep them :cry
holy punt. :rolleyes:
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....come up a few feet short of the rearm pad trying to ferry one to the front lines...
I tried that once and did the same thing.
I upped a 163, kept the gear and went slow to the next base and landed. I ran out of fuel and coasted to maybe 3 feet short of the rearm pad.... :furious
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Whats that for anyway?
Ram Air Turbine for generating electricity. The early Phantoms had them, but they werer removed when they figured out that the
10 minutes left on the battery without engine power would last until the aircraft augered. Think the glide ratio was 8 plane lengths down
for every one forward. Try tossing a brick out the cockpit and flying formation with it to simulate :D
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Ram Air Turbine for generating electricity. The early Phantoms had them, but they werer removed when they figured out that the
10 minutes left on the battery without engine power would last until the aircraft augered. Think the glide ratio was 8 plane lengths down
for every one forward. Try tossing a brick out the cockpit and flying formation with it to simulate :D
My bird, "The Lead Sled". The only reason it has lift is due to thrust, take that away & falling brick... no glide ratio. :old:
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I worked the pointy end of some E models, those engine guys were solid soot/grease from the elbows to the fingers :lol
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Had a hydrlics troop I knew in Korea who soaked all his fatigues in hydrolic fluic so the would all be the same Colorado without spots...shop chief made him throw them away...4 new sets. :ahand :rofl