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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Nash on November 11, 2000, 03:07:00 PM
Let's presume Gore doesn't press legal action with regard to this ballot.

And considering that most all of y'all are Republican (or at the very least, support Bush)...

My question is this.

If Gore simply ends up winning after the recount is complete and the absentee ballots are counted, are you prepared to accept that?
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Hamish on November 11, 2000, 03:44:00 PM
Of course i am, IF he actually wins the recount, which he hasn't yet. After the count is done, on the 17th (the deadline for the overseas ballots), If he does not "win" florida, I think he should concede the election. I think he is only hurting the process, and the country by continually asking for count after count. So far we have had 2 counts in florida, both of them have come up with him behind, if only by a few hundred votes. Those counts DID include some overseas ballots ( i think the number qouted was 5000, i'll have to go look it up). There may not be any more ballots that come in, and there may be some, who knows, it's up to the mail to get them here now.

Hamish!
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Fatty on November 11, 2000, 03:50:00 PM
Heh, I won't be digging any shelters or moving to Canada.  I honestly don't see him covering Florida, but if he does then he's the President (provided we're thru with the suprises that keep popping up, god I hope so).
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: wrench on November 11, 2000, 04:41:00 PM
Sure, it will be the same for me as when Clinton won, or even if Bush wins. I will know that I am surrounded by intrusive idiots at least 50% of the time  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).

We still must allow Republicans the same latitude we have allowed the Democrats over these last few days so I would not expect Bush to be the "statesman" Gore was not and conceede.

Besides the republicans still hold the house and senate.

Wrench
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: 1776 on November 11, 2000, 04:44:00 PM
Your question should read:After the Democrats and their cohorts in the mainstream media complete the hijacking of this election......?

The fat lady ain't sung nothin yet!!!!!!

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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on November 11, 2000, 06:22:00 PM
Sure, after the Democrats count the same ballots enough times to get the numbers they want, I will support Gore. I raised my hand and swore to uphold the Constitution, I have no choice really. I'll just have to prepare myself for another 4 years of being deployed to toejamholes 50% of the time. In the past 8 years of the Clinton fiasco, I have spent 4 of them away from my family in one godforsaken place after another. I love going to places I've never heard of because some git in Washington thinks these countries should be just like us, and we need to "police them." Well, enough rambling. I've got packing to do. *sigh

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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Mighty1 on November 11, 2000, 07:20:00 PM
I will never accept Bore..NEVER!

I may have to LIVE with him but I'll never accept him.

This re-re-count is absurd and for them to think the American public is so stupid that we can't see it's just a stall tactic to either 1) actually keep re-counting till Bore wins or 2) till they find the loop-hole they need.

Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Kieren on November 11, 2000, 10:37:00 PM
Well... how about this loophole?

Indianapolis Star (local paper) states that the Electoral College can vote on the 18th with whatever states have declared results (apparently this is provided for in the Constitution). Those states not declared are discounted. Majority wins. If this is true, anyone see the Dem strategy a bit clearer now?
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Kieren on November 11, 2000, 10:39:00 PM
...and the answer is, no, I can't abide Gore any more than I can Clinton. I won't go busting out store windows and steal TV's, but I will do whatever is within my constitutional rights (that is until Gore and Hillary are done with them) to resist their intrusions in my life.
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Eagler on November 11, 2000, 11:42:00 PM
It'll be a sad day in U.S. history.

It'll be an embarrassment for the country

Life will go on, we made it through 8 years of slick willie

A couple of neighbors and I are thinking about torching our houses ........ that's what you do to protest something you don't agree with right ?
i.e. Los Angeles and Liberty City.

Eagler

"the gorons may rule the country"

goron = someone who wants to vote for gore but can not figure out how.
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Cabby on November 11, 2000, 11:58:00 PM
Quote:

"Life will go on, we made it through 8 years of slick willie"

I think the jury is still out on that....

If Gore "wins",  the Republican House and Senate will reduce his sorry-ass to a quivering mass of jello.  Imagine when that lying dork tries to make legislation.  

Of course, to Clinton/Gore, the Executive Order(i.e. dictator) is a definite option.

Cabby
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: easymo on November 12, 2000, 02:27:00 AM
 I just watched them finish the hand ballot count. When it didn't go there way. They immediately ask for a county wide hand count. Does anyone here doubt that when that doesn't go there way. They will ask for another count of some kind.

 The only effect I can see, in the long run, is that people like me, who have always voted for the man, not the party. Will be shocked.
 The democrats will never get another vote from me, no matter how promising the candidate looks. You have my word on that.
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Igloo on November 12, 2000, 04:48:00 AM
Actually, there is a very real possibilty that Gore will win.

Pat Buchannan (sp?) got 3,600 votes in a county he did not even campaign in.  Even he says that those votes are most likely Gore supporters who were confused on the ballet.

The state of Florida, please correct me if I am wrong, sent out an example of the type of ballet that would be used for the election.  Come election time, the ballet had changed and confused a lot of people.

Those 3,600 votes would put Gore over the top in Florida and he would win.

Go Stockwell Day!



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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: StSanta on November 12, 2000, 06:20:00 AM
Heh and you republicans realize that many dems feel the exact same way about Bush.

That's the nature when you have these two party system with candidates who are basically too close together to be any different.

It'll be more of the same, no matter who wins.

Raub, I guess you signed up for the military voluntarily. You shouldda expected to be placed in toejamholes  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

Kidding aside, there's some truth to it, no?

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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Fury on November 12, 2000, 07:21:00 AM
Nash,

Short answer - yes.

Fury
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on November 12, 2000, 07:39:00 AM
St Santa:
I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of the USA, and to defend the USA. I also swore to obey the orders of the Commander in Chief, who for the past 8 years has decided that toejamholes like Bosnia and Kosovo are in our nations best interest. I have yet to see how anything in these places directly effects me or our country. I'm sorry, but I just see it as our country's way of playing global policeman, and I don't really care for it. All this coming from a man who fled to England to escape military service. I have to obey orders, but I don't have to like it.

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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: StSanta on November 12, 2000, 08:42:00 AM
Roger that raubvogel

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Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Eagler on November 12, 2000, 08:59:00 AM
 
Quote
Originally posted by Igloo:

The state of Florida, please correct me if I am wrong, sent out an example of the type of ballet that would be used for the election.  Come election time, the ballet had changed and confused a lot of people.


Igloo
You are incorrect.
Eagler
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Gunthr on November 12, 2000, 03:59:00 PM
Although I strongly support Bush, I am prepared to live with a Gore victory, if that is the way it turns out, absent any shenanigans. After all, this is America.

We've never had a vote this close before, though, and I'm disturbed by what we've seen. We've observed not only the smelly underbelly of politics that has probably always existed behind the scenes, but we are struck with the impression that there seems to be two different kinds of people in this country.

They seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum in their beliefs regarding the role of government, and the role of USA in the world. They are deeply divided on what constitutes morality and ethics. They are seeing different visions of the future.

What is going on here?

Are we seeing the results of the "browning of America"???

Are we seeing the effects of technology and the information highway influencing the vote?

I personally cannot stomach Al Gore and his ilk. Apparently, the liberal Democrats feel just as strongly about Conservatives, and George Bush. What happens when you have almost half the population of a country with such strong negative feelings towards the winning administration?

I do know one result of all this, and perhaps it is a good thing. Many, many, many more Americans will become involved in the political process than have before. I know that my wife and I have found a new hobby to do together - we are going to become politically active. I encourage everyone to do the same.


God Bless Bush  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

<S> Gunthr


Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Toad on November 12, 2000, 05:01:00 PM
 
Quote
Originally posted by Nash:
If Gore simply ends up winning after the recount is complete and the absentee ballots are counted, are you prepared to accept that?

Nash, THAT is the difference between the two camps.

Those that honor Personal Responsibility and Personal Accountability will of course accept the outcome.

It's the other side...in all these discussions....that can not.
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Toad on November 13, 2000, 11:44:00 AM
<PUNT>

OK, let's here from the OTHER side.

If Bush is eventually declared the winner in the Florida "recount the recounts and then recount those recounts until Gore wins" attempt.....

Gore's surrogate, Warren Christopher, "left open the possibility that Gore would sue to overturn Florida's results if he doesn't prevail in the recounts." (From Atlanta Constitution, 11/13/00 "Counties Sweating Over Recounts)

My question is this.

If Bush simply ends up winning after the recount is complete and the absentee ballots are counted, are you Gore voters prepared to accept that?

Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: Toad on November 13, 2000, 03:34:00 PM
....and Polk County, FL just announced a recount with another 100 for Bush.

So, what's your answer?
Title: What if Gore wins?
Post by: PC on November 13, 2000, 03:44:00 PM
We'll have another re-recountof the count, I bet. No wait that's what this one is, isn't it? we'd have a re-re-recount of the count. When we get to the one with Gore up we quit, right? Even if the totals on the recounts are 5 to 1 for Bush, that last one counts?

PC