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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: storch on September 07, 2006, 09:02:24 AM
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all this banter about what a vet should or shouldn't be doing has gotten me to think about who is defined as a vet and who is a noob. for the record I am and shall always be a noob.
what do others think, me wonders?
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An AH "vet" is a sort of animal doctor who looks after all the little sheep that live in the hills & valleys between the airfields that get poorly because we fly our nasty, noisy planes to close to the ground and scare them.
Sorry, I can't help you about "noobs" - a piece of equipment a vet uses??
:)
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LOL funny Whisky :)
Id say a year of playing AH would make you a vet. That gives someone enough time to learn the game, become OK in everything, and also enough time to get to know a few folks.
However when most say vets, they are probably referring to people who have flown flight sims for years.
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Certainly time in the game contributes to being a 'vet', but I think I'd take it further.
I think 'vets' recognize the game for what it is, a game. I don't think the 'vets' get caught up in the stuff that gets folks early in the game, as in score mongering, flying only the uber rides and thinking that being the high scorer and gaining rank means much if anything.
I'd like to believe that 'vets' try to contribute positively to the AH community in whatever ways they can. This can include how they carry themselves in the arena and on 200. It can be in helping newbies learn the ropes. It can be on the boards with advice or help. I can be through their work doing aircraft skins or maps. It can be through all the special events stuff, scenarios, snapshots etc.
Basically I think you've made 'vet' status when you recognize a responsibilty back to the game and community and do your best to make it better.
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I think a year is a bit short with regards to the complexities of the game.
In my opinion you start to transition from newb to vet at about 3 years. It takes a while to define your playing style because there is so many aspects to this game.
I would think a vet would have been in a couple of different squads or at least one for a few years.
I would think a vet understood all of the types of game play and their affects on the community and MA.
They have been around long enough to know most of the players and most of the AH history.
They know who the real vets are. :D
They understand the short comings of AH and can add to threads without the obvious, repeated noob perspectives.
and what Guppy said! :D On the mark.
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after you have completed your 1000th HO attempt, 750th gang-bang, 500th cherry pick, and/or 1200th vulch, you are an AH MA vet .. usually takes the average ah'er about 6 months...
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Vets have been here longer than me...noobs have not :D
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Maybe an AH vet is someone who has done it all... tried all planes and vehicles, tried all playing styles (furballing, scorewhoring, landgrabbing, toolshedding, hordes, duels, events, whaddevaugot).
Someone who no longer has an agenda of being best some way or in some category.
Someone who can just play and enjoy the game :rolleyes:
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A noob is receiving a face full of lead from a Ho-ing 110, the vet is a person who learns the art of giving a noob a face full of lead from a 110.
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I had a noob tried wanted to Ho me in a 110 but missed. So out of fun I take my Hurri 2C and HO him on the next pass. Needless to say, I killed him on the 2nd HO and I never received one bit of damage
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Originally posted by Whisky58
An AH "vet" is a sort of animal doctor who looks after all the little sheep that live in the hills & valleys between the airfields ....
Hey, that would make me an AH "Vet" - nice :).
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Hey, that would make me an AH "Vet" - nice :).
The wabbit needs a check up :D
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Originally posted by storch
all this banter about what a vet should or shouldn't be doing has gotten me to think about who is defined as a vet and who is a noob. for the record I am and shall always be a noob.
what do others think, me wonders?
Dont you all believe him!!! Storch will kill you quick if you dont know where he is lurking. If hes a noob, he is a noob to respect. ;)
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<---- 65 months X $14.95 = $971.75
Vet :aok
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60 months AH subscription (5 years almost to the day)
60 months AW Subscription (5 years fee AW almost to the day...December 7th 2000. RIP AW)
2 yrs free AW on AOL
60 x 15 = $900
60 x 10 = $600
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$1500 in subscription alone.
I won't include the shiny new laptop I bought so I can "work" from the road, joysticks, rudder pedals, internet access...
eeeeeek I have a problem :huh :( :cry
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Certainly time in the game contributes to being a 'vet', but I think I'd take it further.
I think 'vets' recognize the game for what it is, a game. I don't think the 'vets' get caught up in the stuff that gets folks early in the game, as in score mongering, flying only the uber rides and thinking that being the high scorer and gaining rank means much if anything.
I'd like to believe that 'vets' try to contribute positively to the AH community in whatever ways they can. This can include how they carry themselves in the arena and on 200. It can be in helping newbies learn the ropes. It can be on the boards with advice or help. I can be through their work doing aircraft skins or maps. It can be through all the special events stuff, scenarios, snapshots etc.
Basically I think you've made 'vet' status when you recognize a responsibilty back to the game and community and do your best to make it better.
:aok
Mars I think 3 years might be a little long depending on the person, learning curve, time in game, etc.. but probably spot on for the average guy that doesn't have a lot of spare time to spend playing.
Noob, vet, I don't care so long as my skills are improving, I'm enjoying the game, and I remember to help out people I can.
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Originally posted by storch
for the record I am and shall always be a noob.
Despite our issues, I think you are a Vet Storch, which is one of the reasons I get upset at you sometimes. Being a Vet has nothing to do with skill, it has to do with having "been around". You may not know it, but people do look to "Vets" to get their ques as to how to conduct themselves, and many times Vets (me included) fail show them the right way.
To paraphrase the old joke:
"I cant define a Vet in words, but I know one when I see one."
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Originally posted by Max
<---- 65 months X $14.95 = $971.75
Vet :aok
you are not a "true" ah vet unless you used to pay $30 a month
08-03-2001 Payment processed +29.95
the price was dropped the following month to the current $14.95, changing AH forever :cool:
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Originally posted by Golfer
60 months AH subscription (5 years almost to the day)
60 months AW Subscription (5 years fee AW almost to the day...December 7th 2000. RIP AW)
2 yrs free AW on AOL
60 x 15 = $900
60 x 10 = $600
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$1500 in subscription alone.
I won't include the shiny new laptop I bought so I can "work" from the road, joysticks, rudder pedals, internet access...
eeeeeek I have a problem :huh :( :cry
Wow saw you on the news.... car stopped in the middle of the hiway with a guy in it that had a killer look in his eyes and a white knuckle grip on the steering wheel and foot jammed down on the brake..... and all you were actually trying to do was rudder left for a roll on 6. Now I have to contact the News and fill them in.
P.S. I'd maybe stop playing AH on the lappy while driving :eek:
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fighting 1 on 1, losing, then saying 'good fight, can you teach me that move?' makes you a vet.
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Originally posted by Eagler
you are not a "true" ah vet unless you used to pay $30 a month
08-03-2001 Payment processed +29.95
the price was dropped the following month to the current $14.95, changing AH forever :cool:
Actually I did start at that rate Eagler back in April of '01
Then there were the good old days of AW via AOHell when I paid $3.00 @ hr YEOWWWWWTCH!
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I was thinking about this some more while out mowing the lawn on this day off of mine.
Where the 'vets' have failed is in that as the 'elders' of the AH community, we've not done enough to slow or stop the degredation of the game play in the MA.
It's easy to see it happen, and the guys who have called us out on it, have been shouted down by the masses to accept things the way they are.
FT being taken by Rooks today speaks volumes I think. The mob mentality wins. Right now if you limited the MA to LA7s, Spit 16s, 110gs B24s and goonies, they'd be perfectly happy.
There are enough 'vets' who condone or support that kind of gameplay that those trying to be the voice of reason get drowned out.
I don't have an answer, and I don't know that the 'vets' of the AH community have the actual desire, outside of a vocal few, to try and change things.
I'd almost suggest letting the fracture break all the way with MA remaining Air Quake and those who actually enjoy ACM and not win the reset, HO at all costs, go to the AvA and fly the midwar birds etc. The Air Quake mob seems to have overwhelmed the MA at this point. It would be up to the ACM vets to make the move and actually populate the AvA and have at it. Somehow you'd have to have some control over the griefer's too as you can bet, as they do in FT, they'd try and screw it up.
I know when I logged on last night and went to FT, the first thing I encountered were vulching LA7s and N1Ks, followed by flights of B17s trying to bomb the base. It was a bad omen and very discouraging as my own team's response was to go and do the same.
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Originally posted by Golfer
60 months AH subscription (5 years almost to the day)
60 months AW Subscription (5 years fee AW almost to the day...December 7th 2000. RIP AW)
2 yrs free AW on AOL
60 x 15 = $900
60 x 10 = $600
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$1500 in subscription alone.
I won't include the shiny new laptop I bought so I can "work" from the road, joysticks, rudder pedals, internet access...
eeeeeek I have a problem :huh :( :cry
10 years x 365 days = 3650
1500/3650 = (http://www.thatquiz.com/images/money/us-quarter.gif)(http://www.thatquiz.com/images/money/us-dime.gif)(http://www.thatquiz.com/images/money/us-nickel.gif) (http://www.thatquiz.com/images/money/us-penny.gif) a day - even with its issues, it's still a great value
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
fighting 1 on 1, losing, then saying 'good fight, can you teach me that move?' makes you a vet.
fighting a fight, losing and calling the other guy names makes you a redtop. :D all the more sweet sounding to me, the noob.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I think 'vets' recognize the game for what it is, a game. I don't think the 'vets' get caught up in the stuff that gets folks early in the game, as in score mongering, flying only the uber rides and thinking that being the high scorer and gaining rank means much if anything.
I'd like to believe that 'vets' try to contribute positively to the AH community in whatever ways they can. This can include how they carry themselves in the arena and on 200. It can be in helping newbies learn the ropes. It can be on the boards with advice or help. I can be through their work doing aircraft skins or maps. It can be through all the special events stuff, scenarios, snapshots etc.
Basically I think you've made 'vet' status when you recognize a responsibilty back to the game and community and do your best to make it better.
A noob can recognize the game for what it is and play accordingly. This is why all noobs aren't dweebs and some 'vets' are. :)
As for trying to 'contribute positively', 'recognize responsibility' and 'make it better'....been there, did that for over 5 years in another game. In the end, burned me out bigtime, I don't plan to go there with AH.
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Being that I am a "Noob" (been with AH2 for a year now), and reading the post's, I see a lot of suggestions of what the vet's can do. Well, I choose to think that over the year I have evolved into a mediokre furballer. I love down and dirty fights in the -1 hog, and love the spawn point tank fueds.
Don't get me wrong, I've been involved in vulch fest's, score mongerin, and land grabs, but am outgrowing that stage. What I would like to know is, what can the Noobs do? How can we get them involved in the boards and the shaping of the game. Obviously "we" (the noobs) are a growing part of this game.
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Originally posted by Grits
Despite our issues
do you have a mouse in your pocket?
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Originally posted by storch
do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Storch always makes me laugh
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Originally posted by Eagler
you are not a "true" ah vet unless you used to pay $30 a month
08-03-2001 Payment processed +29.95
the price was dropped the following month to the current $14.95, changing AH forever :cool:
LOL i remeber when it cost $2/hr to fly but then that was WB
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You're not a vet unless you paid $2 per hour
Those early years were an investment in the game! (Thats what I tell my wife)
A vet is pale, has bloodshot eyes, hands shake unless they are on the joystick. He doesn't have many "real" people he can call friends unless it's the pizza delivery guy.
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fellows, without being disrespectful there are other adjectives which immediately come to mind that I could use to describe what a person who pays $_ per hour for an intardnet game is. :D
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Vet :: someone in AH since 99.
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Guess that makes me a AW/gamestorm Refugee!!!:O :aok :aok :aok
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I am a $2 an hour Warbird transfer. What did AW cost?
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all this banter about what a vet should or shouldn't be doing has gotten me to think about who is defined as a vet and who is a noob.
Vet Qualifications:
at least 1 month bill on CC for AW - $971.75 (actually had 5 to 6 months in a row of these bills )
1 X-wife ( supposedly left because I only cared about the game )
Burnt Out ----> at least 5 times over 10+ years
then at the other end, enjoying the game for what it is, and what Tiff posted in his 1st reply........ anyone know who Tiff is? if you know who Tiff is you qualified for "VET" status possibly ;)
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
then at the other end, enjoying the game for what it is, and what Tiff posted in his 1st reply........ anyone know who Tiff is? if you know who Tiff is you qualified for "VET" status possibly ;)
Sorry TC it's not a Vet ,it's more a old guy :D
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Well, in RL a Vet is someone who participated in a previous "conflict" (they hardly call 'em wars any more).
So I'd say anyone who has any flight time in previous on-line flight-sims should qualify.
If you flew in AH1 you're a vet.
If you flew in warbirds, AW, falcon, etc... you're a vet.
If you flew kesmai AW you get "grizzled vet" status.
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Originally posted by storch
all this banter about what a vet should or shouldn't be doing has gotten me to think about who is defined as a vet and who is a noob.
To be a BBS-vet you have to have been PNGed at least once.:p
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One year or more may be enough to take off the n00b label, but I'd say you need about 5 years to be an "AH-vet". Closer to 10 years to a "MMOL aircombat-sim vet". So if you didn't play AW or WB in the 90's I would not call you a "vet".
If you've been playing these silly games longer than 10 years you are probably (like me) saddened by the "progress" of the genre, where strategerie, "winning", and scores take priority away from actual aircombat and fun.
Edit to add (after reading the whole thread):
I had one months bill from WB reach over $300, never said I didn't have a problem. I'd estimate my online combatsim time has cost me well over $4k over the years, and that does not count joysticks and PC hardware. The exhorbitant charges certainly worked at keeping the children out of the arenas. I guess everything is a trade-off somehow.
But those were the early days of the intardnet, back when they called it the "information superhighway" and a dialup service was 9600 baud and cost $30-40 a month for unlimited access. To be honest, back then it was not really the intardnet anyway. Most of the folks online back were mature professionals and other than the perpetual flamefests of usenet there wasn't that much tardness. Now that the internet is full of 7 year olds it is certainly a different place.
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If you remember paying $400, 00 Dollar a month phone bills and $1500, 00 per month Credit card bills (Genie $6.00 per Hour) Then I think you can be called a AH Vet
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
A noob can recognize the game for what it is and play accordingly. This is why all noobs aren't dweebs and some 'vets' are. :)
I humbly refer you to Jedi's Book of Dweeb Sir...any search pros out there that can point the way? Will be back with a link if I can find it. :)
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Originally posted by Heater
If you remember paying $400, 00 Dollar a month phone bills and $1500, 00 per month Credit card bills (Genie $6.00 per Hour) Then I think you can be called a AH Vet
My total cost per hour for AW when I started was $13/hr. GEnie was $6 and I didnt have a "local node" (if you know what a "local node" is you are a Vet) so I had a $7/hr long distance call on top of GEnie. I had 5-6 CC bills in the $400-$500 range and too many to count in the $200-$300 range.
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http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/bookofdweeb/
Hope this works, and hope you enjoy.
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yassir ... DOSAW on the Amiga with a screamin 2400 supra hot rod modem was a bit of fun, livin in Adelanto (a suburb of Victorville ..LOL) ..I paid a surcharge on top of the GEnie dialup ..my average bill for the first 3 months was over $1k/mo .. wife worked, kids were in high school, I played a *lot*
since she worked late most nights.
4-5hrs every nite, all day saturday, most of the day sunday .. that was me :)
Tail number 1326.
Initially I kept a log of flight time just to see what the numbers would be .. after 3500hrs in the Mustang in AW alone I stopped loggin 'em.
SVGA AW was a huge step up .. but it murdered my Amiga .. 5fps in a furball just didn't cut it .. and into the PC world I went.
-GE
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unless one was very wealthy, I would describe paying hundreds of dollars per month to play a cartoon game as irresponsible. even then I would call foolish. there would be other words to describe paying thousands. I saw an ad for AW in flying magazine back in the early/mid '90s, I didn't have a puter but was interested in pursuing my wwii aviation interests so I called the 800 number on the advertisement. when the sharpster at the other end began to describe the costs he found himself listening to a dial tone. there was no way I would spend that kind of money in such a trivial pursuit. take that same money today and place it in a safe money market fund and do so until retirement and see what the significance of that expenditure was and is.
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A vet is a 1337 80 year old dude playing AH on an Orange screen comp with a stick and buttons from his shirt as his joystick and a can with a piece of fishing wire attached to it for his headset.:cool:
And listens to Heavey Metal at the same time.:p
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Vet Qualifications:
at least 1 month bill on CC for AW - $971.75 (actually had 5 to 6 months in a row of these bills )
1 X-wife ( supposedly left because I only cared about the game )
Burnt Out ----> at least 5 times over 10+ years
then at the other end, enjoying the game for what it is, and what Tiff posted in his 1st reply........ anyone know who Tiff is? if you know who Tiff is you qualified for "VET" status possibly ;)
Maybe I'm close.
I never had the big bill though. Came along a little too late.
My family doesn't have ex wives, widows and widowers we have, no x's.
I remember Tiff, as in +Tiff, and that whole bunch.
I'm burned out now, haven't logged on since early July.
But then, I've never been good enough to be a real vet.
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Originally posted by storch
unless one was very wealthy, I would describe paying hundreds of dollars per month to play a cartoon game as irresponsible.
If it kept you away then it was worth every penny.
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In all seriousness am I still a newb...got about a year and a half under my belt and log about 120 pers month somtime 170 in the summer others 90 in school year...but no really am i a vet?
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120...170...90 :O
Holy cow you must be white as a ghost!:O :O
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it did keep me away but in what way has that been a benefit to you? I mean you unwisely, perhaps foolishly spent all that money and look, I'm here now. and what's worse is that while you were spending all that money in that manner I was busy building a profitable business so that now, I can spend countless hours on here and in the game if it pleases me to do so. If we don't get another hurricane this year, by december we should be all caught up with our commitments and i don't have to go by the shop every day like I do now, thus allowing even more discreationary time. maybe you should wish the kids buy me a new boat or something.
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<-------Cartoon character for 10 years and upteen dollars.
fought in the battle of the Simpsons, also the very bloody School house Rock wars. not to mention the GI JOE campaigns.
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Originally posted by Edbert
To be a BBS-vet you have to have been PNGed at least once.:p
--== seriously ==--
One year or more may be enough to take off the n00b label, but I'd say you need about 5 years to be an "AH-vet". Closer to 10 years to a "MMOL aircombat-sim vet". So if you didn't play AW or WB in the 90's I would not call you a "vet".
If you've been playing these silly games longer than 10 years you are probably (like me) saddened by the "progress" of the genre, where strategerie, "winning", and scores take priority away from actual aircombat and fun.
B]
I would agree with you here. a guy with 5-10 years playing experience would be very proficient and I would also consider that person a vet. since I didn't play any of those games in the '90s and only started playing after having an accident that separated me from 1/2 of my right thumb in april 2003 I'm a noob. a nubbing noob at that.
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Originally posted by BlkKnit
Vets have been here longer than me...noobs have not :D
This sums it up for me. If you were here when I started, you're a vet (thats Aug 2002 incase you're wondering) and if you came after, then you're a noob.
Don't get me wrong though, I've met some noobs that smoke my arse daily, and some vets that still can't even after 4 years trying.
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If you flew kesmai AW you get "grizzled vet" status.
LOL I flew AWIII by Kesmai as long as I could get it working.
I sucked there too :D
I remember the first WWII re-enactment night, crashed like commet. Was funny. Definately wet my whistle. :aok
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Originally posted by Heater
If you remember paying $400, 00 Dollar a month phone bills and $1500, 00 per month Credit card bills (Genie $6.00 per Hour) Then I think you can be called a AH Vet
Hmm, I remember the $200 phone bill from weekend in Dayton back in '92 (thanks again for that Fencer :D) and the 60 ft of phone wire strung 'tween HT's and my room....wadda HOOT! :) Fortunately, we were free flagged for the weekend and GENIE didn't cost us anything.
I wonder how many credit cards HT toasted back in those days? I know he had multiple 4 digit bills.
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oh boy.
When I first found AW, I was one of the squeaky voices(thank god 2400baud meant no vox!) I was playing it on Delphi, with it's usual $3 or whatever it was an hour fee. Except I'd play it after school, and until 5pm they'd tack on something like an $8 an hour surcharge, plus ANOTHER for the game.
The first asswhooping from a $300 bill didn't work, it was followed by a $400 one where I finally got the point.
Not long afterwards, I got a real internet connection, and suddenly the massive hourly rates for playing AW dissapeared.... If you connected to delphi through the internet, the hourly rates were dropped, and suddenly AW became cheap!
Don't really remember why I stopped playing, got a bit too involved with OS's and programming I guess.
Then early 2002, I randomly found AH, and the memories of AW floode77d back, and i was hooked before I even finished the DL.
I'm one of the youngest products of the era where the only thing PCs did well was * sims.
A vet is anyone who's done _EVERYTHING_ in ah. When you've done furballs, land grabs, hour long bomber missions, score whoring, taken off in a 262 for the sole purpose of killing panzers and ostwinds, and you've landed kills in a D3A and a C47, you're a vet.
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Originally posted by storch
it did keep me away but in what way has that been a benefit to you? I mean you unwisely, perhaps foolishly spent all that money and look, I'm here now. and what's worse is that while you were spending all that money in that manner I was busy building a profitable business so that now, I can spend countless hours on here and in the game if it pleases me to do so. If we don't get another hurricane this year, by december we should be all caught up with our commitments and i don't have to go by the shop every day like I do now, thus allowing even more discreationary time. maybe you should wish the kids buy me a new boat or something.
You have to understand Storch , HT was very sneaky , he introduced us to this called "beta" , which was totally free and the most fun we'd ever had on a computer. He might have mentioned the fact that we might have to pay for this one day , but it seemed like a long way away. Then bang - it went pay for play ($2 an hour) - but guess what - we were hooked.
In a previous life HT was either a trout fisherman , or a cocaine dealer , I'm still not sure which
WB beta is still the most fun experience I've had on a computer
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Originally posted by g00b
If you flew in AH1 you're a vet.
wuhoo! played only a year and a bit of it though :D
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A vet is a kind of TRex who knows very well what he's doing.
He "eats" his victims when he's hungry (and he's hungry all the time).
You can recognize a vet but always too late
He loves dogfights and nasty furballs as well.
Usual he doesn't vulch (it's under his skills because he loves the art of fight) but this is just a theory though.
IF you are on his tail becareful because the way behind him is full of traps.
.... being a noob , this is what i think about what a vet does mean.
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Originally posted by Niros
A vet is a kind of TRex who knows very well what he's doing.
He "eats" his victims when he's hungry (and he's hungry all the time).
You can recognize a vet but always too late
He loves dogfights and nasty furballs as well.
Usual he doesn't vulch (it's under his skills because he loves the art of fight) but this is just a theory though.
IF you are on his tail becareful because the way behind him is full of traps.
I think that sums it up pretty well
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"500th cherry pick"
Damn, im in! :aok
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I see, Redd. the first hits were for free. well fortunately for me I saw "reefer madness" and was therefore aware of the dangers of such vises. er... waitaminnit. well back to topic at hand. Redd since you are a capable and proficient player what is your definition of a "vet", I'd be curious to know. I would also like morpheus' view on this topic as well if one of you guys would be so kind as to ask him for me.
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Originally posted by storch
I see, Redd. the first hits were for free. well fortunately for me I saw "reefer madness" and was therefore aware of the dangers of such vises. er... waitaminnit. well back to topic at hand. Redd since you are a capable and proficient player what is your definition of a "vet", I'd be curious to know. I would also like morpheus' view on this topic as well if one of you guys would be so kind as to ask him for me.
You wont be hearing from Morph on these boards, he was declared to be a "Persona Non Grata" and decided not to do whatever it takes to get his account back. You could go to furballunderground and ask him.
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edbert thankyou for the offer but I certainly have no desire to be on the blueknights forum. send him my regards none the less. :D
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Originally posted by storch
edbert thankyou for the offer but I certainly have no desire to be on the blueknights forum. send him my regards none the less. :D
Hehehe...furballunderground (FU for short...lol) is Morph's site. The BKs have our own too but they are not the same. FU has a number of non-BKs on it.
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Originally posted by Niros
Usual he doesn't vulch (it's under his skills because he loves the art of fight) but this is just a theory though.
Vets dont vulch, they field suppress.......
So I was told.
Im not sure if being a "Vet" means anything if you're an arse......
There are many very cool "Vets" that will actually take the time and help better the game and there are a few "Vets" that whine about the old days and wish everyone played the game like they want you to.
I guess to each their own but the community would be better with more teachers and less whiners.
just my .02
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There are many very cool "Vets" that will actually take the time and help better the game and there are a few "Vets" that whine about the old days and wish everyone played the game like they want you to.
Not sure if I am included in that bunch, but since some have accused me of that I will respond to this drivel.
If you are eluding to the Furbballers request for a place they can log in and fight, then either you weren't on last night or you are a maroon.
If you were as astute as you thought you were, you would have picked up on the fact and myriad of posts, that we could care less about how the rest of you play, but only wish to have a place to play our style of game. Get it right and your tounge wont taste like feet all the time. :aok
If your comment was not directed at the furball crowed then disregard and my apologies. :aok
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Mars I cant figure out what your avitar is.
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That is a shot from the cockpit of his Pitts ... entering a loop I believe.
From what Mars told me, the black bar is an "aiming" device so that he can tell, from the horizon, if he is in the correct position for the manuver.
I thought it was a fancy "dream catcher" for airplanes ... :D
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He owns a Pitts Special?! Now im lealous. Nice ride Mars:)
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Lol dweebs.
10 years on line a vet doth maketh :huh
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Nice ride Mars
Thank you - Dream come true, now if only gas prices would drop I could fly it LOL.
Link to some of the movies I did last year. I'm still putting together this years: Scroll to the bottom and find my post dated 03-08-2006 19:26
http://www.studentpilot.com/interact/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24441
From what Mars told me, the black bar is an "aiming" device so that he can tell, from the horizon, if he is in the correct position for the manuver.
I thought it was a fancy "dream catcher" for airplanes ...
Hehehe Yep, Morph caught that pick from the front seat as I set a vertical line for a hammer head, better known as a rope :D. We were just sitting there waiting to run out of E.
The sight device is tough to see from the front seat, because it is set up for the back seat. I'm still waiting for morph to weld me up one for the front :D
From my seat the horizontal ling on the dream catcher :D that is just below the white stone quary, is actually on the horizon. :D
I stick the 90 line on the horizon and I know my pitch is perfect (not pos or negative) and my yaw is perfect (One wing is not higher or lower in reference to the horizon - called dragging a wing ) If we had a pic of the right wing you would see the horizon ingtersect the lower wing at the same spot as the left, then you know you aren't draggin a wing.
(http://www.furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/files/1/IMG_1716.JPG)
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I havent been in the real pilots seat in years:cry
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A true Vet would have "quit" the game at least a dozen times...............
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Originally posted by FBBone
A true Vet would have "quit" the game at least a dozen times...............
...and your point is? :)
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boy, I cant wait till I can be called a vet too....
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Originally posted by Baylor
boy, I cant wait till I can be called a vet too....
Never happen Baylor, never happen :)
Well maybe after I become a vet. Until then......
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Originally posted by storch
I see, Redd. the first hits were for free. well fortunately for me I saw "reefer madness" and was therefore aware of the dangers of such vises. er... waitaminnit. well back to topic at hand. Redd since you are a capable and proficient player what is your definition of a "vet", I'd be curious to know. I would also like morpheus' view on this topic as well if one of you guys would be so kind as to ask him for me.
never thought about it much , but it is probably more a "peer group" and relative thing than anything else. To the AW guys the vets are the ones they learnt the game with and had fun with , to me it's the ones I remember from my first year in WB it when it was all fun and exciting , and to you it's probably the guys you first flew with and against in AvA and CT.
So everyone has their own "vets"
So probably a noob is anyone with less time in game than yourself , and Vet is anyone with the same or more time than yourself ;)
But probably , also to me vets are the ones that have done all the peripheral crap and the self-preservation and running away stuff and have come to realise the fun is in a good fight (win lose or draw). Some people discover that in a year , some take longer , some never do. Again that's a relative thing to me and my view on things.
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No Mars, it wasnt directed at you....
I was in FT lastnite also and as you I had a good time.
I'm refering to the Ch200 kings that think you need to fly as they do or do as they do....
This game has something for everyone in it, so enjoy what you like...
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I'm surprised that not one person has said this yet. "An AH Vet is one that know what the term STFU Noob means":D
Oz
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I really need a "Dream catcher" option on my Spittoonie
btw im a 25 cent at a time 1941/42 arcade vet ... does this count :D
(http://www.fraserking.co.uk/arcade/screenshots/1942-3.png)
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naah you got it all wrong, a vet knows what RTFM means lol
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ummm possibly all of the above and the instinctive ability to call chk 6 when a team mate is in peril and not just hope you can pick the bandit before he picks the team mate..........