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Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: BB Gun on May 30, 2001, 10:30:00 PM
WB3 sunrise, beta5.30.01 release:
  (http://www.aros.net/~gmartin/warbirds/wbiiiscreenshots/p28dawn03.jpg)  

For more:
 http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/021052.html (http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/021052.html)
 http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/021047.html (http://agw.dogfighter.com/agw//Forum3/HTML/021047.html)

Assuming iEN survives, there is some DEFINITE competition here.....

BB
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: SOB on May 30, 2001, 10:46:00 PM
Those do look nice, but they're missing one very important thing that AH will always have over WarBirds...

HiTech & Pyro

Not to mention the two ladies and those artsy-fartsy nancy boys!


SOB
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Fishu on May 30, 2001, 11:22:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by SOB:
Those do look nice, but they're missing one very important thing that AH will always have over WarBirds...

HiTech & Pyro

Not to mention the two ladies and those artsy-fartsy nancy boys!


SOB

Well, someone will sooner or later take over them... a cold fact, but true.
Although, I wouldnt put my money on WB3 about that.
maybe some other..
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Vulcan on May 30, 2001, 11:49:00 PM
Nice lense flare. But from a purely rendering point of view I'd say its not that hot. The light sourcing is all wrong (if there is any), you shouldn't be able to the insignia on the tail, it should be a black silhoutte. Its questionable whether you should even see the ground detail. IE, the area behind hills should be dark.

If you look at the other screenshots it becomes clearer, like seeing full detail of the the 38 with the sun behind it is not right.

Looks like they are using ambient light rendering.

AH is nice, it uses the lightsourced system which means objects are rendering with the appropriate light levels, ie ground behind hills is dark. Aircraft with the sun behind them are silhouttes.

But AH could do with a better sun imho.

Not a WB3 slam, just pointing out that if you look a little closer you can see some 'issues'.
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: BB Gun on May 31, 2001, 12:02:00 AM
Vulcan,

Yeah, they still do appear to be using too much ambient lighting.  There IS a light source, but I dont think its strong enough, and I don't think that it travels with the sun yet.

BUT, its only the third beta release.  I'm sure its not complete yet.

BB

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Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Animal on May 31, 2001, 01:28:00 AM
I like that screenshot, looks very sweet
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Boroda on May 31, 2001, 05:52:00 AM
SOB, very well said!

Simply look at the flightmodels of the planes they added after +HT+ and Pyro resigned...

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With respect,
    Pavel Pavlov,
    Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS

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Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Swager on May 31, 2001, 06:26:00 AM
Looks very nice!

Impressive!

I flew WB during the free weekend.  Had some fun! The community seemed very nice!  I love the icon appearing range, plus the icon is lost when aircraft goes in the sun.  You have to always keep your SA up, ALOT!  

One thing I didn't like was the feeling that your face was in the front windscreen all the time.  No adjustment either.

I like AH more because that is what I was raised on, but WB is just fine and I wish them all the good luck in WB III.

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Swager
On Leave 3./JG2~Richthofen~[/i]

"Enjoy yourselves now... for I'll be back"
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on May 31, 2001, 07:33:00 AM
BBGUN, the vicious flames died along time ago.  Just the drive by flames now and then.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Looks good!  I suspect that iEN will probably have to offer more than what HTC offers now in order to recruit any AH pilots that-a-way, but for new flyers to flight sims, no problems!
<S> BBGun!
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on May 31, 2001, 07:34:00 AM
Oh, P.S.
WB's 2.77 still kicks AH bellybutton for historical terrain/arena choices!~
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Mighty1 on May 31, 2001, 08:35:00 AM
Man! That is one bright cockpit light!

Pilot: Dammit I told that moron to use a 60 watt bulb not a 6000 watt.

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Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Westy MOL on May 31, 2001, 08:58:00 AM
 It does looks very nice. But that all pervasive yellow just doesn't do it for me <blech>

 -Westy
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on May 31, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
They are getting there, not quite, but almost the same quality as AH:
  Click here for a nice sunset pick with clouds you can acutally play hide and seek. (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/sunset.jpg)




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Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Dowding on May 31, 2001, 10:50:00 AM
 
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Oh, P.S.
WB's 2.77 still kicks AH bellybutton for historical terrain/arena choices!~

Ripsnort, I suggest you take a look at the special events announcement forum.

You might find it interesting.
 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Ripsnort on May 31, 2001, 11:05:00 AM
Yes, I did!  Good things a-coming!  
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Nethawk on May 31, 2001, 01:20:00 PM
Never played Warbirds, but from the looks of things there's way too much urination going on over there  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Tac on May 31, 2001, 05:55:00 PM
screw the screenshot.. LOOK at that plane..its BEAUTIFULL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: I may get flamed, but....
Post by: Fishu on June 01, 2001, 02:35:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Vulcan:
Nice lense flare. But from a purely rendering point of view I'd say its not that hot. The light sourcing is all wrong (if there is any), you shouldn't be able to the insignia on the tail, it should be a black silhoutte. Its questionable whether you should even see the ground detail. IE, the area behind hills should be dark.

If you look at the other screenshots it becomes clearer, like seeing full detail of the the 38 with the sun behind it is not right.

Looks like they are using ambient light rendering.

AH is nice, it uses the lightsourced system which means objects are rendering with the appropriate light levels, ie ground behind hills is dark. Aircraft with the sun behind them are silhouttes.

But AH could do with a better sun imho.

Not a WB3 slam, just pointing out that if you look a little closer you can see some 'issues'.

Umm, I think you have too bright screen.
To me side behind hills is dark, I can't really see much of it, than profile against river and horizont.
Insignia in the tail?  I didn't had even noticed such thing.. too dark.
so i think you got too bright screen.