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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BlueJ1 on September 08, 2006, 05:19:17 PM
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[Whine on]
Those of you who smoke should read this....
I work at a local supermarket part time. Sometomes I have to sweep. 99% of the garbage are your cig butts....I swear there must be thousands a day laying around. ANd most of them are located NEXT to the garbage or this special cig butt holder that keeps the garbage from setting on fire. Once you clean them up the wind will blow and more of the little buggers will blow from out of no where. Your already killing yourselves...will it kill you anymore to walk an extra 2 feet and put them in the garbage?
The next person that looks me in the eye and flicks his cig butt on the ground in front of me while Im sweeping Im gona kick in the junk...even if they dont have junk Im gona kick em in the junk.
So stay away from Derby NY if you like your junk where it belongs and not in the back of your head.
:cry :mad:
[Whine off]
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You get a fine of £50 if you drop a ciggie butt in my local city centre. (Its not just butts, any litter and the clean police can ticket you). It has made a difference during the day, particularly in hot spots like outside the McDonalds that used to end up looking like a land fill by 2pm.
Gatso
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Originally posted by gatso
You get a fine of £50 if you drop a ciggie butt in my local city centre. (Its not just butts, any litter and the clean police can ticket you). It has made a difference during the day, particularly in hot spots like outside the McDonalds that used to end up looking like a land fill by 2pm.
Gatso
There are fines on littering here in NY. But our plice are currently more worried about wage freezes and a escaped convict that shot 3 troopers (1 died) (2 seperate occasions) for the past 2 months instead of littering.
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I agree BlueJ, the sidewalk in front of my school is where those people choose to smoke, cigarette butts everywhere even though there are 2 trash cans on either side of their group. For some reason the group by 7-11 gets ticketed every 2 weeks or so, about 10 people each time. You've got you be mentally retarded to smoke at a gas station.
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Its not enforced by police officers. The local council has authority to levy the fines through its own employees. I guess the fines more than cover their wages. I think it was originally brought in to stop people dropping chewing gum but has been expanded to all forms of litter.
Gatso
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Originally posted by nirvana
I agree BlueJ, the sidewalk in front of my school is where those people choose to smoke, cigarette butts everywhere even though there are 2 trash cans on either side of their group. For some reason the group by 7-11 gets ticketed every 2 weeks or so, about 10 people each time. You've got you be mentally retarded to smoke at a gas station.
Its illegal to smoke on school grounds here. So kids stand across the street in people's yards and smoke.
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Same with my school but they weill stand on a part that I would think is school property and smoke with the "security guards" carrying on a joyous conversation with them. The school district bus depot is right next to us too, so they go over there. It's just dumb and i'd like to see them all keel over, someone spike the tobacco with sarin.
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Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
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Originally posted by nirvana
It's just dumb and i'd like to see them all keel over, someone spike the tobacco with sarin.
Calling for the death of people who litter is just a bit Orwellian don't you think?
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BlueJ1 pwnd by Sundowner
Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
i think "orwellian" characterizes .gov behavior that validate the concerns of :noid.
kill em all is just severe.
putting cameras all over to catch them would be orwellian
if they were 280lbs, then they would be Orson Wellian
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I always wondered why smokers think the world is their ashtray and garbage dump?
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We used to use ashtrays but they won't let us inside anymore.
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I think it's a quick end to a long, pollution prone death. And "we" won't let smokers inside now because it smells so much more better now without all the horrific second hand plague trying to rip out or lungs.
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. You've got you be mentally retarded to smoke at a gas station.
i once did a test, poured quater of a gallon of petrol on some tarmac and threw a ciggarette half smoked into it.
the petrol put it out.
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You sure it wasn't diesel? If I recall gasoline vapors are more volatile, but whatever. It takes one spark.
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spark yes, for sure would ignite it.
test it yourself, bet ya $10 you cant ignite petrol or its vapour with a lit cig.
(legal notice: not my fault)
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
No.
Another thing that pisses me off about where I work...the union allows workers who smoke breaks to do just that...smoke. I dont smoke so I only get one break and work my arse off watching the people who need their fix every 10 minutes sit on a bench and get fat. I have to pay $8 out of every paycheck (every week) toward this union. I dont get any benefits from the union until after 6 months. By that time I will be long into my A school in florida. So im paying for these people to have the right to sit on the bench every 10 minutes and smoke.
Today during my break I was in the breakroom listening to a bunch of these people say they may be going on strike soon. One of them asked me what I thought being new. I told them Id cross the line everyday and work all the hours you all will be missing because you all dont get paid enough to sit around and smoke. :rolleyes:
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If it takes a shooting to get the cop's attention, then let's start shooting smokers who drop their butts on the ground!
Who's with me???!!!!!!
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Originally posted by eagl
If it takes a shooting to get the cop's attention, then let's start shooting smokers who drop their butts on the ground!
Who's with me???!!!!!!
Theres better people who deserve this treatment. Not smokers.
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Originally posted by eagl
If it takes a shooting to get the cop's attention, then let's start shooting smokers who drop their butts on the ground!
Who's with me???!!!!!!
Shooting the litter and anti smoking nazis would get my vote.. and besides cig butts are biodegradable, all smokers know that.
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Im nota anti smoking nazi. Do what you want as long as it dosnt effect me.
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Originally posted by Dago
I always wondered why smokers think the world is their ashtray and garbage dump?
Maybe it's because the world has virtually eliminated all designated smoking areas of intrest.
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guns,
As a boyscout I remember picking up cig butts during trash cleanup day long before the anti-smoking campaigns even started. The bottom line is that an awful lot of smokers are inconsiderate prettythangholes who make the world smell and look terrible, and they justify their littering by bogus "freedom" and persecution arguments.
A smoker's freedom ends when I have to inhale his smoke or look at/pick up his trash, period. At that point it's just anti-social behavior to be ruthlessly stamped out.
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Im more peeved at the laziness of not throwing the butts out instead of flicking them at the ground around the garbage.
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Originally posted by eagl
A smoker's freedom ends when I have to inhale his smoke or look at/pick up his trash, period. At that point it's just anti-social behavior to be ruthlessly stamped out.
Nice wording Eagl...coudn't have said it better
Plus for me there is a second reason: I have asthma. (caused by broken ribs and subsequent pneumonia) I have to carry with me at all times my puffer, just in case. Second hand cigarette smoke is one thing that always affects my asthma adversely.
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My mom still smokes, but she always puts her butts in a pocket, baggie, or now that "smoking areas" are mandatory, into the butt can. She's a full-up nicotine addict but realizes that her addiction can hurt others so she takes reasonable steps to keep from bugging others. Yea she gets pissed when the whacko anti-smoking extremists call smokers evil, but even before the anti-smoking movements she always took care to pick up her trash and avoid smoking around people who hate second hand smoke.
It's common courtesy, but a lot of smokers get all wrapped up in their version of their "rights" and end up going out of their way to be anti-social. Makes them look like a bunch of childish tards IMHO.
And when I'm in uniform, god help the military member who tosses a butt on the ground in front of me... The wrath of the pissed off Academy grad field grader comes out and pretty much lays waste to everything in sight. Unpleasant doesn't really express the full weight of the experience :furious
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
(legal notice: not my fault)
Hehe, if I smoked and/or had a cigarette I might try it. I just know when i'm in the auto shop all cigarettes are out before anything fuel related is touched.
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Originally posted by eagl
guns,
As a boyscout I remember picking up cig butts during trash cleanup day long before the anti-smoking campaigns even started. The bottom line is that an awful lot of smokers are inconsiderate prettythangholes who make the world smell and look terrible, and they justify their littering by bogus "freedom" and persecution arguments.
A smoker's freedom ends when I have to inhale his smoke or look at/pick up his trash, period. At that point it's just anti-social behavior to be ruthlessly stamped out.
Your one of those commanders that will close down a "smoke pit" and drive the entire work section nuts arent you????? ;)
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
spark yes, for sure would ignite it.
test it yourself, bet ya $10 you cant ignite petrol or its vapour with a lit cig.
(legal notice: not my fault)
The ignition point of gasoline vapor is approx 495 degrees F.
The temp of a lit cigarette is:
Side of the lit portion: 400 deg C (or752 deg F)
Middle of the lit portion: 580 deg C (or 1112 deg F)
A cigarette can cause gasoline vapor to ignite.
Think about it, if a cigarette can cause trash, furniture and bedding to catch fire, does it sound reasonable it won't cause gasoline vapor to ignite?
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Long-time smoker here. I always smoke well away from doors at work to avoid offending anyone, usually around back of the building. Wash my mug and hands after every cig, too. And I don't pitch my butts just anywhere; I field-strip 'em (rip the cherry off and stamp it out, butt goes in the trash). Another smoker I work with smokes ten feet from the main entrance and intentionally flicks her half-torched butts into the parking lot. She's single-handedly managed to piss off every person who's ever seen her on break or at lunch.
At least she doesn't spend lunch in her car, engine running and windows rolled up, smoking like a chimney anymore. She'd come back from lunch smelling like a cocktail waitress after a 9-hour shift *gags*
Dirty smokers annoy the hell outa me. If you've gotta do it, at least make an attempt to keep the trash/stink down.
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Flakbait [Delta6]
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Ah hell no Guns, I want my folks to be happy, including the addicts :)
They can have their smoke pit as long as they keep it clean, just as I and my buds can have our little friday afternoon drinkfests and BS sessions as long as we clean up after ourselves.
But the second we have a clean-up day and I find myself picking up butts or beer bottles, that's when the wrath percolates out. No, the smoking pit won't go away, but it may get inspected a little more often until the smokers quit crapping in their own play area.
Heck, I've gone out of my way to complain that smoking areas are not sufficient when "my" smokers complain about them. Why should a smoker have to walk all the way around the building and through a muddy path in the rain to a little half-prettythanged shelter barely big enough for 2 people, just to light up? That sort of thing hurts us more than it could possibly help organizational health goals. Pave the dang path, put up a decent smoking area, and make it a reasonable concession rather than a punishment for the crime of being a nicotine addict.
Yea I sort of buy into the idea that it should be undesirable to be a nicotine addict, but when it creates a real morale or productivity problem then we need to re-think our priorities. If they're not going to just flat-out kick out nicotine addicts, then reasonable accomodations need to be made so they can reasonably service their addiction.
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It always amazes me that some smokers don't seem to have a clue how offensive the smell of smoking is to most non-smokers.
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flakbait,
Photograph her flicking the butt and post the picture of her littering on the bulletin board. Put on a caption "not ALL smokers litter..."
The best defense is a good offense :)
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Originally posted by eagl
Ah hell no Guns, I want my folks to be happy, including the addicts :)
They can have their smoke pit as long as they keep it clean, just as I and my buds can have our little friday afternoon drinkfests and BS sessions as long as we clean up after ourselves.
But the second we have a clean-up day and I find myself picking up butts or beer bottles, that's when the wrath percolates out. No, the smoking pit won't go away, but it may get inspected a little more often until the smokers quit crapping in their own play area.
Heck, I've gone out of my way to complain that smoking areas are not sufficient when "my" smokers complain about them. Why should a smoker have to walk all the way around the building and through a muddy path in the rain to a little half-prettythanged shelter barely big enough for 2 people, just to light up? That sort of thing hurts us more than it could possibly help organizational health goals. Pave the dang path, put up a decent smoking area, and make it a reasonable concession rather than a punishment for the crime of being a nicotine addict.
Yea I sort of buy into the idea that it should be undesirable to be a nicotine addict, but when it creates a real morale or productivity problem then we need to re-think our priorities. If they're not going to just flat-out kick out nicotine addicts, then reasonable accomodations need to be made so they can reasonably service their addiction.
Is it at least a "no hat no salute" area? our Reg states that we are not allowed to let the trainees see us consume tabacco period so if a trainee is in view of our well camoflaged smoke pit we have to put them out or risk the wrath of the superintendent and trust me you don't want an MTI with CMS chevrons on his sleeves ripping you a new one lol. Gotta go to bed, roll call in 4 hours. :aok
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A smoker's freedom ends when I have to inhale his smoke or look at/pick up his trash, period. At that point it's just anti-social behavior to be ruthlessly stamped out
I'm too set in my ways to change so before the new world order takes over and I'm ruthlessly stamped out, can I have one last cigarette? promise I wont drop the butt
nah, screw that.. lock 'n load
:p
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Ahhh roll call!!!!!! Get up you maggots!
I think the base regs define smoking areas no hat no salute, but the one smoking area I routinely walk through is mostly populated by Marines and they always pop to and give a snappy salute, so I guess it depends on local regs.
I figure a smoking area ought to have a roof, and by definition anyplace "under cover" is no-hat no-salute", so that ought to take care of that. Putting up a barrier around the smoking area ought to be up to local preferences but it can both make the "smoke pit" feel more like a club, and it can provide additional protection during inclement weather.
Providing a positive image to recruits is a bit of a different matter... Instructors ought to be "perfect" in every way, and the USAF has decided that smoking is a personal weakness, and therefore a recruit seeing an instructor smoking is really an instructor exhibiting a weakness in front of the recruits... and therefore a bad thing (tm).
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Originally posted by doobs
We used to use ashtrays but they won't let us inside anymore.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Originally posted by dago
It always amazes me that some smokers don't seem to have a clue how offensive the smell of smoking is to most non-smokers.
I'm suprised you can smell anything over all that self rightiousness .
:huh
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Thing is Eagl, it's not just their area to crap in, it's their own. If they want to go home and toss cigarette butts around, good for them, but when they pollute the world on a whole it's something different.
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FDR, churchill, patton, ike, john kruk all smoked
hitler didnt, neither did stalin (except for afghan black hashish) or OJ.
also the stingray the killed that corcodile hunter guy didn't smoke.
not smoking is for wife killing commies!!1
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Originally posted by Dago
The ignition point of gasoline vapor is approx 495 degrees F.
The temp of a lit cigarette is:
Side of the lit portion: 400 deg C (or752 deg F)
Middle of the lit portion: 580 deg C (or 1112 deg F)
A cigarette can cause gasoline vapor to ignite.
Think about it, if a cigarette can cause trash, furniture and bedding to catch fire, does it sound reasonable it won't cause gasoline vapor to ignite?
I work on a Garage and for twenty years after I learned it a cigarette does not ignite raw fuel, try it before ya mention it. need open flame not smoldering cigarette. I've scared the watermelon out of people hundreds of times.
Gasoline does not burn the vapors do, and they need a flame.
We always do it to the kids who are comin in to work.
the gas puts the cigarette out, now a match is a different story and
I believe the heat from a match is much lower
and the material u speak of does not put a cigarette out, liquid does
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http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html
Before proceeding further we want to emphasize that obviously, under the right circumstances a cigarette can ignite gasoline with horrific results.
Sounds good enough for me. The internet is trustworthy, right?
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Originally posted by nirvana
http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html
Sounds good enough for me. The internet is trustworthy, right?
you should read it all first. quote from your link.
We lit a cigarette and tossed it into the pan. The cigarette paper wicked up gasoline and quenched the glowing tip without igniting anything (see Figure 4). We tossed in more lit cigarettes. We tried lighting gasoline soaked paper towels. We used long tongs for reaching far away objects to hold glowing cigarettes over the pan at various heights. More than once we placed several glowing cigarettes in the pan (see Figure 5). Our record was 40 glowing cigarettes at one time. In most cases, we allowed the glowing cigarettes to smolder until they went out.
Various experiments were conducted at different times of the day with different air temperatures and humidity. A total of 223 cigarettes of 11 different types were eventually used all without ever igniting the gasoline. Yet, at the end of each experimental session the gasoline was successfully lit using a single match attached to a long pole (see figures 6 and 7). The gasoline would typically ignite just before the match touched it. This indicated that there was an ignitable mixture just above the surface of the gasoline. Numerous lit cigarettes were in this region for significant periods of time.
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I did, I should have made it clear I concede my previous statement that a cigarette will ignite gas fairly easily.:aok
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I start smoking in "99, i was 30 years old, first 1-2 cigarettes with a coffe, and slowly got adicted, 1 pack/day.
My last cigarette was, last year in 1st of december, i heard the doctor on the radio saying to eat carotts, when need to smoke.
Honestly, it worked for me,
I bought 12-14 lbs of carotts for the money of a pack of cigarettes about 7-8 CAD,
I buy "babby carotts", and pack them in "Marlboro " pack,
At the begining i ussed to eat 5-6 babby carotts/day, now i'm adicted to carotts, i need a couple of lbs,
Aslo ,soo much A vittamine inproved my eyes view, i see with high resolution, like "Hubble telescop" the cigarettes butts on the streets from 1 mile away, and i'm still drooling,
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vitamin a is toxic if severly overconsumed
Hypervitaminosis A is what they call it
Soon to be posted by ghi
:mad: :mad: :furious :furious :noid
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I smoke. My Dad smoked. They removed his right lung 2 years ago December due to Lung Cancer. He still smoked afterwards. Addicted.
Today I'm making arrangements for his internment at Arlington Natl Cem. And if yer wondering, yes he was cremated. The Last Smoke.
I'm doing everything I can do to quit.
Mac
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Not smoking is wimpy. I'd never trust anyone who didn't smoke at least occasionally. Unless they had a reason not to. The CS about vilifying smokers is just too much. That damn commercial that shows the woman being precautious with getting off work and going to her car with situational awareness, keys in hand to use as a weapon if need be (potential neerdowells are loitering nearby), at last getting home and locking the door then going to relax watching the tube having cake and a smoke. Oh noooo !!!...she's killing herself by eating cake and smoking...nevermind the relaxation part doing so while lying on the couch. Gawd, I think that's about the dumbest and most unrealistic thing I've ever seen as an infomercial on TV. Not the relaxing part, the part about how irresponsible and bad that is doing something like that.
If you enjoy 'em then have a damn smoke. Enough of the nanny state already. Geesh.
Not directed at anyone in here in any way. Just venting. Carry on.
Les
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I posted before I saw your post Mac. Not responding to you.
Les
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
Originally posted by BlueJ1
No.
Another thing that pisses me off about where I work...the union allows workers who smoke breaks to do just that...smoke. I dont smoke so I only get one break and work my arse off watching the people who need their fix every 10 minutes sit on a bench and get fat. I have to pay $8 out of every paycheck (every week) toward this union. I dont get any benefits from the union until after 6 months. By that time I will be long into my A school in florida. So im paying for these people to have the right to sit on the bench every 10 minutes and smoke.
Today during my break I was in the breakroom listening to a bunch of these people say they may be going on strike soon. One of them asked me what I thought being new. I told them Id cross the line everyday and work all the hours you all will be missing because you all dont get paid enough to sit around and smoke. :rolleyes:
If your not getting paid to sweep up the butts then dont sweep them up. :)
Problem solved!
Regards
Sun
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I think I'm going to try that stump-ignite thingie.
(I made a molotov when I was a kid, and then lot's of stuff. Often used a cigarette to ignite).
And here is a litttle story.
My dad used to smoke. Also in the car with us kids in the back. We got sick from it, and once I threw up on the back of his head :D
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Originally posted by Sundowner
Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
If your not getting paid to sweep up the butts then dont sweep them up. :)
Problem solved!
Regards
Sun
The people who are paid to do that are the ones on the smoke break all the time adding to the mess. The managers (who also smoke) just pass the buck on to other departments.
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Originally posted by Shifty
I'm suprised you can smell anything over all that self rightiousness .
:huh
Well, you wouldn't know self-righteous if it kicked you in your naive butt.
Because I said I dont understand why smokers think the world is their ashtray, and they don't understand how bad they smell, doesn't make me self-righteous you dummy.
It means I don't understand why they act as they do, and with so little regard for others and oblivious to the consequences of their actions.
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My butts niether niave, nor proned to be kicked.
Do smokers act different than you? What do mean by that? They don't go around calling people dummy or making general accusations against a large group of people? Is that what you mean? Your the one claiming the inability to understand something, maybe that makes you the dummy.
Or it could be they smoke to drown out your smell.
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Smokers have a problem with one thing.
They stink.
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Originally posted by Shifty
My butts niether niave, nor proned to be kicked.
Do smokers act different than you? What do mean by that? They don't go around calling people dummy or making general accusations against a large group of people? Is that what you mean? Your the one claiming the inability to understand something, maybe that makes you the dummy.
Or it could be they smoke to drown out your smell.
Wow, you're not really very bright are you?
Since I lack the ability to understand, why don't you explain it to me. Explain why the majority of smokers think the world is their ashtray, why they toss butts all over the place. Then tell me why they don't understand how bad and offensive the stench of their smoking is?
You have put yourself in the position of having that knowledge, now please try and explain it to us.
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September 18th will be my 7 month quitting mark! Best decision I ever made...It's great to go out, and actually smell good! It's nice to not have to chew a piece of gum after every cig so that your breath isnt nasty...It's nice to know that all of the girls who would never touch a smoker by default, are now open to you!
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I quit a little over a year ago, but I still don't understand why people are so rabidly against smoking. It doesn't bother me much one way or another. My girlfriend assumed it did, so she quit smoking too, but I really didn't care. I just wouldn't kiss her after she smoked until she brushed her teeth lol.
I enjoyed smoking, right up until the last cigarette I had. If I thought I could smoke again without going back to a pack a day, I would. As it is, the possible health issues and $$$$ I spent on smoking aren't worth the pleasure I got from it, so I quit.
It really wasn't even that hard... once you put your mind to it, it is pretty easy to quit.
But yea, I still don't understand the rabid animosity a lot of nonsmokers have toward smokers.
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And "we" won't let smokers inside now because it smells so much more better now without all the horrific second hand plague trying to rip out or lungs.
A smoker's freedom ends when I have to inhale his smoke
Second hand cigarette smoke is one thing that always affects my asthma adversely.
It always amazes me that some smokers don't seem to have a clue how offensive the smell of smoking is to most non-smokers.
If they want to go home and toss cigarette butts around, good for them, but when they pollute the world on a whole it's something different.
Smokers have a problem with one thing. They stink
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I just picked the ones above out for reference.
I`m just curious, in the shceme of things, just how serious of a problem is smokers, cig butts, second hand smoke, offensive smell, etc.
Let`s have a little look see. :)
OK, I assume the area mentioned in the starting of the thread is outside. Just a guess. OK, let`s say you are standing outside the supermarket. More than likely you will be in the area of auto traffic. Toxic exhaut fumes. Irritates skin, lungs and can be a big no no for those with breathing disorders such as asthma, etc. Stink? Youbetcha. Pollutant? Absofriggenlutely.
More than likely, unless you are in some little podunk town, you can have a little look around and spy some factories and production buildings with exhaust vents that are spewing too many toxins, poisons and pollutants in the air to mention or name. Stink? Yep. Irriatant? Yep.
More than likely they will be some shipping/transport going on to supply the area. Probably a lot of these trucks are diesel , right?
Diesel fumes
Attached to the carbon particles that cause the soot are many nasty products of combustion, including nitrogen, carbon monoxide, aldehydes, nitrogen dioxide, sulphur dioxide, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and more. In all, diesel exhaust contains more than 40 chemicals that are listed by the EPA as toxic air contaminants, known or probable human carcinogens, reproductive toxins, or endocrine disrupters.
In a lot of instances there will be paving going on in the area or possibly new businesses being built with asphalt roofing being applied.
Asphalt fumes
Formaldehyde, hexane, phenol, polycyclic organic matter, and toluene. Exposure to these air toxics may cause cancer, central nervous system problems, liver damage, respiratory problems and skin irritation.
Possibly, if it is in growing community or a business area , there will be some type of welding going on. Check out what is in these fumes.
Then you have the supermarket itself. Pollutant/toxin free. Hardly.
food preservatives
# Concerns about Nitrites and cancer
# Concerns about BHA and cancer
# Concerns about toxic effects of BHT
# Concerns about Sulfites and hypersensitivity reaction
A new study has found flame retardant chemicals, called PBDEs, in foods taken straight from supermarket shelves. Hyperactivity in children, allergies, asthma, and migraines are often associated with adverse reations to food additives.
Then you have the steroid laden meat. The high levels of toxins and poisons in some fish, etc.
Hyperactivity in children, allergies, asthma, and migraines are often associated with adverse reations to food additives.
Then, after being terribly put upon by the smokers and being exposed to these polluting, stinking, allergy/ashtma causing freaks, you jump in your trusty auto to head to the safety of your home where you will not be exposed to such evils. Your car have carpet? Your house have carpet. Your house have paneling or paint.
Carpet/paneling
Toluene, benzene, formaldehyde, ethyl benzene, styrene, acetone to name a few.
Being the neat freak you are I`m sure you keep your dishs washed to prevent germs and health issues, right?
Formaldehyde found in some automatic dishwashing.
Liquid dish soap is the leading cause of poisoning among children under six years old as many commercial dish soaps contain formaldehyde and ammonia.
Not wanting to be exposed to germs and irritants that cause health problems you surely keep your toilet nice and shiney. Not to mention that if left alone it would make an old pesky smoker smell like roses. :)
Chlorinated phenols, known to be toxic to respiratory and circulatory systems and included in some toilet bowl cleaners. Rut Roh!
But aside from those few pesky facts, your home is a safe haven from pollutants/toxins, poisons, irritants and dangerous caustics........right? Oh think again sweet cheeks. :)
The average American household typically uses and stores about 10 gallons of hazardous petrochemicals in the form of household cleaners, pesticides, paints and solvents.
Now do most of the things listed smell bad? Hmmmm? Do they irritate and cause bad reactions such as asthma attacks and other health concerns?
While you are blaming everything from your health problems to world pollution on the old smelly smoker, do you ever take these into consideration?
Probably not.
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Originally posted by Dago
The ignition point of gasoline vapor is approx 495 degrees F.
The temp of a lit cigarette is:
Side of the lit portion: 400 deg C (or752 deg F)
Middle of the lit portion: 580 deg C (or 1112 deg F)
A cigarette can cause gasoline vapor to ignite.
Think about it, if a cigarette can cause trash, furniture and bedding to catch fire, does it sound reasonable it won't cause gasoline vapor to ignite?
good facts, so in theory it is possible.
but in practice its very unlikely.
possibly because of Englands climate, the outside temperature and moist air will play a part in stopping it. maybe in texas in summer it would be very different.
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Still anxiously waiting for shifty to enlighten me.
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Hey bud,
Arent you getting paid to sweep up the butts?
Regards
Sun
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BlueJ1:
"No..."
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If your not getting paid to sweep up the butts then dont sweep them up.
Problem solved!
Regards
Sun
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BlueJ1
The people who are paid to do that are the ones on the smoke break all the time adding to the mess. The managers (who also smoke) just pass the buck on to other departments.
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So you go out and sweep up butts and its not even part of the job you are getting paid to do?
Heck,I woudnt do it.
Could you loose your job for refusing to do it?
If so, why?
Regards
Sun
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If I dont do it I will loose my job. Im on probation for a few months because I am new. The union cannot defend me because of the same reasons. By the time I can be protected I will have already.
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I somked from age 15 to age 21, I'm 24 now and I stopped when I got pregnant . Havent had the urge since, but I don't think a non smoker should have to clean up cigeratte butts, but at the same time I think smokers should put them in the ash trey too, not all over the place.
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Originally posted by Dago
Since I lack the ability to understand, why don't you explain it to me.
What the heck. I`ll give it a shot. :)
Explain why the majority of smokers think the world is their ashtray, why they toss butts all over the place.
I believe that would be a minority of smokers. IMHO, cig butts are not that big of a problem. People who litter, smokers and non-smokers do far worse than throw butts down. On the lake where I live, the concrete pounders roll in on the weekend, leaving a trail everywhere they go. Beer cans/bottles, wrappers, sacks, trash bags full of everything, dirty diapers, old fishing line......you name it, they throw it. Butts are not much of a problem. Probably because they are gone with the first rain..or they are covered up in trash.
Then tell me why they don't understand how bad and offensive the stench of their smoking is?
Read my list above and tell me how big of a problem it is in relation to everything else you are getting more than numerous nose fulls of.
Sounds like you might possibly be nitpicking considering everything that stinks around you.
If it bothers you that much, why not just stay away from areas where people are smoking?
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Here in Canada, the goverment's grafic warnings on the cigarette are disturbing, maybe helped me and many others quit, Also the goverment saves money on Health care with this adds
Smoking/ watching daily this kind of pics can't be ignored forever, sometimes makes you think about, and they work,
(http://www.skyaid.org/images/cigarettes_strokes.jpg)
(http://www.morinogakko.com/high/nicotine/canada13.jpg)
(http://www.forces.org/canada/porno/16.jpg)
(http://cellar.org/2002/canuckcigs5.jpg)
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Originally posted by Jackal1
What the heck. I`ll give it a shot. :)
No no no, I want Mr Brilliant (aka shifty) to try to explain something besides his own nonsense. I won't expect any big words. :rofl
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Originally posted by Dago
No no no, I want Mr Brilliant (aka shifty) to try to explain something besides his own nonsense. I won't expect any big words. :rofl
Raaaaaaawwwwwwwwger! I`ll just keep all my vast knowledge bottled up then. Back in the thimble it goes. :D
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Originally posted by ghi
(http://cellar.org/2002/canuckcigs5.jpg)
Introducing Viagra lights. Now in Kings and 100s. Also available in the new , handy flip top box.
Surgeon General`s Warning: If erection lasts longer than four hours, switch to Viagra Ultralights and wipe that smile off your face stud.
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Originally posted by dmf
I somked from age 15 to age 21, I'm 24 now and I stopped when I got pregnant . Havent had the urge since, but I don't think a non smoker should have to clean up cigeratte butts, but at the same time I think smokers should put them in the ash trey too, not all over the place.
zOMG!!1 restraint..!!!:confused: :rolleyes: :t :t :t :t
Me--->(http://www.danchanmagic.com/jacket1.jpg),
except i'm retaining myself to be a non-jerk, not cause i'm yellow
rofl!!!1 but oh man straight lines!!1
:furious :furious :furious
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Originally posted by ghi
I start smoking in "99, i was 30 years old, first 1-2 cigarettes with a coffe, and slowly got adicted, 1 pack/day.
My last cigarette was, last year in 1st of december, i heard the doctor on the radio saying to eat carotts, when need to smoke.
Honestly, it worked for me,
I bought 12-14 lbs of carotts for the money of a pack of cigarettes about 7-8 CAD,
I buy "babby carotts", and pack them in "Marlboro " pack,
At the begining i ussed to eat 5-6 babby carotts/day, now i'm adicted to carotts, i need a couple of lbs,
Aslo ,soo much A vittamine inproved my eyes view, i see with high resolution, like "Hubble telescop" the cigarettes butts on the streets from 1 mile away, and i'm still drooling,
Now thats fricken hilarious...
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dmf are you really a 24 YO mother that likes to play online pileit? i get such a hint of shade even thinking about it.
:p
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Introducing Viagra lights. Now in Kings and 100s. Also available in the new , handy flip top box.
Surgeon General`s Warning: If erection lasts longer than four hours, switch to Viagra Ultralights and wipe that smile off your face stud.
:rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
If I dont do it I will loose my job. Im on probation for a few months because I am new. The union cannot defend me because of the same reasons. By the time I can be protected I will have already.
here's my hint for employment. take it or leave it, and most people would leave it....
screw unions, screw picking up butts, and screw any employer that wants to fire you.
at your age you pay is going to suck in any job (and probably still at my age, mine would, not far ahead of you). so losing one is only a week of getting some other bread money emploment. don't ever put a value on your employers unless they are close friends or family. anything else and they dont give a toss about you and will walk on you as much as they can.
now if you want to join a company and work for them your whole life to 'climb the ladder' bish bash bosh, lunch meeting at 3.00 etc then you are that company's b1tch as you constantly try to impress and suck up. unless somehow you also really enjoy your work and/or sucking up.
from the word go do as little as possible, take as many breaks as possible, start smoking and drinking coffee as much as possible.
other activities must include;
go for cig break - stand an extra minute longer after - walk in - straight through the whole building with a seriously diligent and busy look about you - walk out the other side - cig break.
can be reapeated and reversed a number of times depending on how many exits the place has.
working in a restaraunt or coffee shop will alway enable you to add - petty theft of confectionary - somewhere in the sequence. bear that in mind.
talk to any female employees, but make sure she understands that you both must look serious like your talking work work work. this will not only waste a few minutes, but will possibly get you laid at the staff party. many girls love a bit of hush hush nod n' wink doubleosevenage. watch out for the prude cow that will smile, then grass you up.
If you work in any factory outlets or warehouses, try to find different uniforms and work gear that can be used as a disguise. you'd be surprised how much purpose can be imitated with a simple flurecant jacket and hard hat. once an alter ego has been aquired, walk through the canteen and into the toilet, change, then walk back. study your co-workers to see who is on the ball and who is a potential hazrd in the workplace. invite this second group to a weekly poker night in your mums basement. drop things on your feet, then calim sick leave. faking a broken limb is more difficult without the aid of a friendly plasterer or triage nurse.
Steal as muh as possible. see that stapler non the desk? well it would look good on any desk, not least of all your home desk. staplers can be usefull. very usefull. other usefull things might include drinking straws, fresh vegetables, postage stamps, rubber bands, wall clocks, nail guns or signs bearing 'danger of death' warnings. dont let oppertunity die to your scrupels. take your chance as if it were a 262 asking to be vulched on takeoff.
Quiting. this is undoubtably the best part of almost all jobs. its like life, the only certainty is death. the only certainty with employment is one day you will stop being employed.
unlike life where the general best option is staying alive, the true reason for being employed is to feel the freedom of quiting again, and not caring that you wont get that same paycheck next month. quit as much as you can. dont feel like getting out of bed? ring in sick. you'll get away with it a few times with no questions. a true profensional will call in sick the perfect number of times in an increasing span of thier intended emplyment, culminating in an explosion of truths and angiush as the employer lays down the law expecting the little puppy to bow wow and say sorry, and the employee gives the finger and walks. if they didnt see it coming then more fool them.
Recognise a worthy job that satisfies you, doesnt earn far more for them than for you, respect a company that is run by a person you respect, and never follow these rules when you find it.
never lower yourself (read: anything not in job discription) under the hierachy of pissants that just want to have power over you.
:D
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I wish I could quit and pick up a job that easy. Employment around here is like pulling teeth. The job market has gone downhill here. Our region is in a depression that looks like it will never get out of. The job really isnt that bad. I work, and get paid and keep my mouth shut. Then I come home and complain about it here. There is alot of positives about the job. Including the girls who work the cash registers. All about my age and bored. :aok
Thanks Bat
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S! Blue, good luck sir, just dont let the illigitimates grind you down.
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I just have nothing else to complain about. :p
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:lol
PS: did ya get an invite yet? if not ill go online now and sort it.
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Il be back flying thursday on payday. Im $2 short of the subscription.
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That was a great post Batfink, a true classic.
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ty, i do have my creative moments, especially when it comes to slaggin off work :)