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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Obie303 on September 10, 2006, 05:06:59 AM
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Hello everyone, I wasn't going to post this topic but in light of the subjects that have been brought up by others, I felt that I should. NCLawman and Guppy35 had made very good points and people responded in a positive way. This I think is a little more serious though.
First of all, I'm an average pilot at best. I try and learn how to ACM and never have I ran from a fight. I like to consider most of the other people I've met are very honorable and have integrity when it comes to gameplay in the MA. I know that this is just a game and everyone wants to have fun and anything goes in the MA. Vulching and HOing is frowned upon but it happens. Sportmanship and fair play is expected from everyone.
The other day in the MA, I was pretty much getting my butt handed to me in the usual way. On one sortie, I was shot down and managed to bail. Next thing I knew, I was straffed while I was in my chute. I was a little ticked and I just let it slide without saying anything. I figured it could have been by accident. The next sortie, it happened again. This time, as I was dangling like a worm under my chute, I saw the (colorful metaphores inserted here) jerk deliberately back around and kill me.
Needless to say, I was pretty upset (I was *&^%#@ pissed.) I just logged off and grabbed a beer. I know who that player was and I thought I would just embarrass them here. I'm not going to do that. I have integrity.
I would like to know one thing though....for players who get their jollies off killing pilots after they've bailed. Does it make you feel more like a better pilot? I mean really, if you already shot the plane down, you get the score of the kill. You enjoy shooting a pilot with cannons and guns blazing? What a sport!
Sorry everyone, I dont want this to get out of hand. I'm just afraid that behavior like this could become an epidemic if it's not addressed I dont want this to be another post to complain about everything that goes on in the MA. I still plan on spending my $14.95 a month. I'm not going to let some dink who has no idea of sportsmanship get under my skin.
to all the honorable players!
Obie
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Killing chutes is the same thing as murder.
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I've only done it when I don't want the other guy to get away with anything cause they've done something rather lame. Like the guy who will avoid the 12 cons in the air to vulch the one guy landing. In that, and similar cases, I have little sympathy.
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Originally posted by Innominate
Killing chutes is the same thing as murder.
:huh
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I was straffed while I was in my chute. I was a little ticked and I just let it slide without saying anything. I figured it could have been by accident. The next sortie, it happened again. This time, as I was dangling like a worm under my chute, I saw the (colorful metaphores inserted here) jerk deliberately back around and kill me.
:rofl
It wasn't me was it? :t
I'm just kiddin' :aok nothing in this game really happens by accident, people are just lame and they get off on doing crap like this. It goes back to guys carpet bombing guys in tigers just because they don't have the skill to hit them with 1 bomb. Or the vulchers in FT or whatever else some of these arse clowns do. Don't worry about it Obie, there alot of good guys & gals in this game. Just go hunt the guy down and kill him and make him :cry
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Originally posted by sullie363
I've only done it when I don't want the other guy to get away with anything cause they've done something rather lame. Like the guy who will avoid the 12 cons in the air to vulch the one guy landing. In that, and similar cases, I have little sympathy.
I dont really get that reason. As soon as the guy bails, he gets his death awarded and whoever shot him the kill credit. Killing him AGAIN in his chute will not give you a kill credit, nor come up in his scores as another death. The only effect it has is that you fire some bullets into empty space, reducing your hit%.....
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I can deny that i have EVER been involved in such heinous behavior. (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Furball/chutegopop.ahf)
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Originally posted by Schatzi
I dont really get that reason. As soon as the guy bails, he gets his death awarded and whoever shot him the kill credit. Killing him AGAIN in his chute will not give you a kill credit, nor come up in his scores as another death. The only effect it has is that you fire some bullets into empty space, reducing your hit%.....
What is even funnier is when you see the guy swing around and come back at you and get that nice well placed shot right between your eyeballs from his .45 :eek:
Errrrrrr..... Hey wait a second (Sketch thinks back to last tour)
Hey wait a second! That just happened to me!!
(Sketch checks for the virtual scar on his forhead)
:confused:
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By the way, since HTC gave chutes handguns, they are armed combatants of war and are valid targets.
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Originally posted by Furball
I can deny that i have EVER been involved in such heinous behavior. (http://www.furballunderground.com/Guest/Furball/chutegopop.ahf)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Oh man I was waiting for that film to come up!!
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shame HT deleted his thread on bbs about it, that was a classic.
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yes! did i call it in the other thread or what.
hey, he is an armed combatant. i always figured that i was doing them a favor by blasting them. now if find out it's murder, man am i screwed.
if you want my real opinion, the fight is over anyhow so what does it matter. it's not a real chute, and in my opinion has nothing to do sportmanship. most people choose to go down with there planes, because it's faster, and you don't really die. I find the ones bailing the most are usually people very concerned about their score, so they deserve to get their chute shot:aok
no one really dies, it's certainly not worth getting upset causing you to drink. if you don't want your chute shot, its simple, don't bail.
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:lol u called it.
shootin chutes is a waste of time ammo and effort, doesnt give u points, so what does it give u. U want him dead make sure u hit him hard, i have done it... blow his tail off and keep shooting. I really see chutes, ill i see s people staying in the plane and hiting the ground, i always wondered why not punch out...... maybe the same jerk that shot u shoot them and they dont want to give me a chance.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
I dont really get that reason. As soon as the guy bails, he gets his death awarded and whoever shot him the kill credit. Killing him AGAIN in his chute will not give you a kill credit, nor come up in his scores as another death. The only effect it has is that you fire some bullets into empty space, reducing your hit%.....
I believe that you are wrong ... once he lands and goes back to the tower, he will get a "capture" or a "bail" ... which in turn impacts score.
Death Multipliers
Landed - 1.0
Discoed - 0.25
Bailed - 0.5
Ditched - 0.75
Captured - 0.4
Killed - 0.25
Crashed - 0.25
I figure anyone who bails is trying to preserve their score ... meat puppets go BOOM.
Your airplane is NOT REAL ... your cartoon character is NOT REAL ... ergo ... no honor or integrity involved.
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3 reasons to kill chutes 1) its fun 2) cutes gives 6 calls and relay intel back to squaddys 3) they have a gun and like to plink troops that may trying to capture, or they plink you on the runway......
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Very valid point about the shooting chutes. However, there is not enough information to make a reasobable 'judgment' for lack of a better word.
First... If you have bailed out and opened your chute, you are immediately able to do the .ef command or "end sortie" from the clipboard. There is no need to just hang around and watch the fight. You do not have to be on the ground for a successful bail. Which then leads into the second point....
If you have bailed from the aircraft and are just floating around enjoying the view, there is only three reasons why. You are "spying" reporting back enemy locations to friends -- thus a valid strategic target. Or, you are close to an enemy airfield and are floating down to spawn camp the runway and shoot the pilots in the head of aircraft trying to take off. That also makes you a perfectly valid target. Or, you could be coming down over a friendly town that the enemy are trying to capture, you can (as a chute person) enter the maproom and kill troops as they enter and prevent the capture. This also makes you a strategically valuable target.
So, if you were 10 miles from nowhere and NME-a came around to shoot you just for the entertainment of ensuring your "kill", he is further dropping your score modifier and is a piece of crap.:D But, I must ask, why were you just hanging around for him to return and kill you?
The only other valid argument I can make for the chute killing is people who bomb and bail. Yes -- If I can find their chute I will shoot them into ashes, collect the dust and spread it out over the open open to ensure that they never materialize again. :lol
But back to the original point, I do NOT as a rule of thumb, shoot the chutes unless they are coming down on my airfield -- or the above mentioned bomb-and-bailer.
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Originally posted by jaxxo
3 reasons to kill chutes 1) its fun 2) cutes gives 6 calls and relay intel back to squaddys 3) they have a gun and like to plink troops that may trying to capture, or they plink you on the runway......
Sorry, jaxxo... we must have been typing at the same time and you beat me to the punch.:lol
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I believe that you are wrong ... once he lands and goes back to the tower, he will get a "capture" or a "bail" ... which in turn impacts score.
Death Multipliers
Landed - 1.0
Discoed - 0.25
Bailed - 0.5
Ditched - 0.75
Captured - 0.4
Killed - 0.25
Crashed - 0.25
I figure anyone who bails is trying to preserve their score ... meat puppets go BOOM.
Those multipliers affect perk point gain. Not scores.
Unless you get a ditched, eveything else is counted as "death" in the scores.
Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Your airplane is NOT REAL ... your cartoon character is NOT REAL ... ergo ... no honor or integrity involved.
I am real if you dont mind that. And i like to be treated with respect - even though we are interacting over the internet.
But thats just my take on things. I know not everyone shares it.
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Every one has made some valid points so far and there's not much to add except personal opinion. I don't mind getting shot in my chute, and I will leave a nme chute alone for the most part. But that's because usually I go to tower as soon as I hit my chute. But, once in a while I will stay in it and try to hit nme planes with my .45. I have even flew over an nme base and went to chute with no damage to my plane just to vulch with my little handgun(did it once or twice, loads of fun).
Lambo
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Those multipliers affect perk point gain. Not scores.
They do affect Air Points, and Ground Points in scores.
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You don't even have to open your chute, just end flight after you bail.
To quote HT "everything you guys do is geared to piss off the other guy" and this is a perfect exsample. You have to remember, alot of folks fly to slip into the "WWII Simulation", but at the end of the day this is a game, and "honor" often times takes a back seat :(
....oh forgot to add, this has been happening for a long time Im sorry to say Obie, kids will be kids
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Though I leave chutes alone most of the time, I have to admit that there are some situations I will shoot if they refuse to "end sortie": Especially at hard-fought ground battles around VFields they are a source of valuable information to the enemy - "tiger to your right, moving through woods, now he´s turnin...". They are used as forward observers, as, unlike in "real war", they can still communicate with their teammates. In such a situation, I will kill them without mercy.
Anywhere else they may dangle in their straps till they rot ;)
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Originally posted by Murdr
They do affect Air Points, and Ground Points in scores.
I stand corrected. Overlooked those. :o
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I think here is the problem:
I try and learn how to ACM and never have I ran from a fight. I like to consider most of the other people I've met are very honorable and have integrity when it comes to gameplay in the MA.
First, never worry about what the enemy thinks. For example there are times to need to exit "run", unless you don't mind giving your kill to the enemy. Part of ACM is to have good SA and have a plan to exit. Don't worry about cries of frustration from the enemy because they should have had more energy or a faster plane.
Second, never worry about honor and integrity with the enemy in the MA. I know most people who play ARE honerable and have integrity, but in the MA, do on to others before others can do on to you. An exampe of this: When you make a head-on pass with an enemy and he doesn't fire. Don't assume he is being nice, he has already started his move to get on your 6 to shoot you down.
As far as shooting shutes in real life, from what I read, it did happen. You might try free falling further before opining your shute to avoid being in a bad position for a long time.
This is what I think. Enjoy the game, and don't worry what others think :)
Gunner
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Chutes are targets.
You're welcome to post your definition of unacceptable behavior.
I reserve the right to not agree.
HONK!
Gooss
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Just remember that how a person plays a game, in general says a lot about him as person.
Don't loose sleep over it. You will get those that defend chute shooting to the end. And then you will have those that will judge if the player is a threat and take appropriate action. By this I mean if the pilot bails in the middle of no place, why shoot him? He is not a threat unless you fly back toward him. I see a plane flying toward me, I will sure as heck shoot at him with my .45. But in that instance the enemy aircraft intentionally made the chute a threat to him.
As was posted "Honor Takes a Back Seat." That is a shame.
LTARsqrl <>
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All I know is...
Don't shoot the greens!
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Originally posted by MadSquirrel
Just remember that how a person plays a game, in general says a lot about him as person.
I disagree. If this was true, anger management classes would be a booming business. It's a game, a place you don't have to act like you would in real life. It's a place to be 12 again.
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I'm pretty much the same here as in RL... I don't shoot chutes (unless it's troops) but I don't bail out either. *shrug*
To each their own
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Originally posted by SuperDud
...It's a place to be 12 again.
How can you be 12 again? Don't you need to get past 12 to be 12 again?
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I kill all chutes, if for no other reason than it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. On the flip side, if I happen to bail, I dont get upset if someone else kills me as I hang there like a little meatbomb.
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I had the experience of shooting at the guy trying to kill me in my chute. Hit his oil and he decided to leave. I wont shoot at a chute unless he is a recon threat. Posting a thread like this one will give you a good idea of game play is like in the MA. To some its just a game. To others its a simulation. Many of the people that say its just a game are the biggest comlplainers. Many are not. Sombody on a different thread said you should be pleasantly supprised when you run into an honorable act.
Some times it is better to turn it off and grab a cold one.:D
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Originally posted by zorstorer
How can you be 12 again? Don't you need to get past 12 to be 12 again?
ZZZZIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG:O
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i shoot chutes. i am a very bad person in real life, i have no honor and i am a shame to my community. lol. i would respectfully disagree that actions you take in a game have any bearing what so ever on real life. there are plenty of games that let you take on the role of a villian, it doesn't mean in real life you are one as well. to say that how someone plays a game strongly reflects how they operate in society makes no sense, imho. there are many games online games that focus on shooting other virtual characters and such, i'm surprised the whole world isn't running around fragging each other.
i might respectfully say that some people are taking this game far to serious. so someone shot your chute, the horror. it's not like you don't get another pilot in 0.5 seconds. bailing is risky buisness, it is in real war too. i just don't know what else to say, except don't get shot down.
lol, always think of one more thing. as far as this becoming an epidemic; is been going on for years and years. as long as there have been chutes, they have been shot
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I almost never open my chute when I bail. Pop and clipboard and click on 'end sortie' and you'll get a bailed sucessful without ever opening your chute (and giving anyone time to shoot you).
Two days ago my brother was hanging in his chute and killed a Spit16 with one shot from his .45.
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We have parachutes? No one ever tells me anything! :)
Obie, best words I can give ya, is don't sweat it. As long as no one is really dying and planes are free, there is nothing in AH worth getting worked up about.
The second you feel yourself getting mad and losing your cool, it's probably best to step back, have a beer and relax.
To be honest, I never bail. I figure I get a new plane a lot quicker if I ride the wreckage in. And I'm an expert at riding the wreckage into the ground :)
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Originally posted by pluck
I find the ones bailing the most are usually people very concerned about their score, so they deserve to get their chute shot:
This is the reason I shoot chutes. It's my way of getting back at the pointmongers.
- oldman
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ya, feels good doesn't it:)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
This is the reason I shoot chutes. It's my way of getting back at the pointmongers.
- oldman
Honestly? Until someone told me that they considered chutes pointmongers I always bailed if I could. After that... *shrug* ride it in. I'm not here for points.
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In AHI, before chuters had a .45, You could not end sortie in flight. You had to wait until you landed to tower out.If they had alot of alt (Over 10k) you would sometimes see them on all channel asking to be chuteshot, as it was a 15-30 min. drop to the ground.Now, at that time, all you could do as a chute was act as an FO. You could still see GV icons, but that was it. Thing was, maps then had simpler terrain, and with terrain effects disabled, everything was more or less in flat planes. You would have to goto a town, city, factory, etc. in which to hide a GV.The FO function did'nt really have as much impact on the outcome of a ground fight. At this time, I remember alot of people would get mad about shooting chuters(no pun intended) and would scold greatly over the ALL channel. Enter AHII; Now, FO aircraft show at every GV battle, because now we have a terrain that really works. NOW, in this instance, a chute is as much a threat as the complete aircraft was, because he retains his FO abilities, He's just not as mobile. Add to the fact that quite often, now, you will see in a battle over a field town, When 'Base Suppression' arrives to shoot aircraft spawning on the ends of the runways, A fast plane (LA-7) will up out of the Fh, zip over as close to town as he can, bail out of a UNDAMAGED plane, just to hide in the maproom with his .45, so that he can foil said field capture. (Note:You could'nt do this in AHI, since the chute wasn't armed.) Due to the changes in the game, It's made changes to the gameplay. We're just gonna have to adapt, and cope, with this. Or go back to playing canned WWII flight sims against AI pilots who are 'programmed' to follow rules....
-Frode
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I Chute shoots:D that are in the middle of furballs. Since, countless times i have been in a furball and mistake a chute from my kill that is behind me and brake into someone's bullets.:p Or, I have surrounded a furball and dive in to get sime kills and I see the chute and turn towards it as a plane and then notcie it says chute and waste that. Now in a 1 on 1 if they pop the chute i'll fly by and tip my wing to em.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
The only effect it has is that you fire some bullets into empty space, reducing your hit%.....
Actually, it's a great way to practice your marksmanship. That little tiny sack of meat hanging at the end of those shroud lines is a rather small and hard target to hit.
ack-ack
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SuperDud, Pluck, it has been my personal experience that if a person is a jerk in the game, 99% of the time they are a jerk in real life as well. People don't change their attitudes and manners just because they play a game. They just figure nobody will know who they really are. And before you say it, yes there are a very few that act like idiots on the computer but don't act like that in real life. But as a general rule, it is the other way around.
If someone bails and would be a threat on the ground, kill them. If someone bails miles from anything after a one on one, Salute them for a good fight.
LTARsqrl <>
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I surely shoot the shoot if the p**ck tried to HO me, because it makes me feel good!
sometimes I bail, sometimes not, if I'm pissed at myself i just slam the stick and go get another drink.
If I feel like my virtual pilot dude did ok then he gets a chute:p
Last night i noticed there is a sound effect when getting shot in your chute, it made me laugh!
I dont care if someone shoots my chute
my resposibility to the lil pilot dude is over once I pull the ripcord :D
sometimes he takes a few shots at the planes if they get close, but thats all him! I'm taking a leak and getting another beer! :t
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Originally posted by MadSquirrel
SuperDud, Pluck, it has been my personal experience that if a person is a jerk in the game, 99% of the time they are a jerk in real life as well. People don't change their attitudes and manners just because they play a game. They just figure nobody will know who they really are. And before you say it, yes there are a very few that act like idiots on the computer but don't act like that in real life. But as a general rule, it is the other way around.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. 99% of the guys I know "goof around" on the computer, will act like jerks and act immature. But when they turn off their computer, they are well mannered and polite. Basically they act like you'd expect any adult to. I think you take all this too seriously. It's a game, like chutes and ladders only we play on a computer and fly pixels. But hey, your intitled to your own opinion.
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Bail .ef
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Anything in the sky that can be shot at, will be shot at.
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if you have enough time to make a guns pass on a chute you need to find better fights.
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anytime i see a chute ill make a pass at it.
i dont go out of my way for it but ill kill em if i can :t
On those rare occasions its somebody I in my infinate wisdom decide needs a lil extra ...lead then ill make a lil extra effort
mainly its for the fun of it and the ocasional whines i get :rofl
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Originally posted by Obie303
I still plan on spending my $14.95 a month.
to all the honorable players!
Obie
Think ya pinned it down in your own statement. Chute killing has been a whine for many years in AH.
Personally, i kill sheep, chutes, vultch, and anything that moves.
Dog out.
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I'll shoot chutes when I'm bored. I'll shoot chutes that are giving 6 calls, and you know when they are. To in all honest, if you get pissed off over a chute killing, you need to seriously reevaluate your life, because something is missing upstairs. Now, I'll shoot chutes and imagine that cartoon pilots human form, spewing insults and derogatory words at 100db into a monitor.
:cry
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When people in the MA start acting like losing thier ride is a bad thing.. I'll stop shooting every chute I can.
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I always kill the chutes unless I am flying in a scenario... there is no reason to bail out other than to maintain score/perks in the MA.
Sometimes, I'll make an exception if I had a really nice 1v1 fight with someone and they earned some respect.
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Originally posted by Obie303
Hello everyone, I wasn't going to post this topic but in light of the subjects that have been brought up by others, I felt that I should. NCLawman and Guppy35 had made very good points and people responded in a positive way. This I think is a little more serious though.
First of all, I'm an average pilot at best. I try and learn how to ACM and never have I ran from a fight. I like to consider most of the other people I've met are very honorable and have integrity when it comes to gameplay in the MA. I know that this is just a game and everyone wants to have fun and anything goes in the MA. Vulching and HOing is frowned upon but it happens. Sportmanship and fair play is expected from everyone.
The other day in the MA, I was pretty much getting my butt handed to me in the usual way. On one sortie, I was shot down and managed to bail. Next thing I knew, I was straffed while I was in my chute. I was a little ticked and I just let it slide without saying anything. I figured it could have been by accident. The next sortie, it happened again. This time, as I was dangling like a worm under my chute, I saw the (colorful metaphores inserted here) jerk deliberately back around and kill me.
Needless to say, I was pretty upset (I was *&^%#@ pissed.) I just logged off and grabbed a beer. I know who that player was and I thought I would just embarrass them here. I'm not going to do that. I have integrity.
I would like to know one thing though....for players who get their jollies off killing pilots after they've bailed. Does it make you feel more like a better pilot? I mean really, if you already shot the plane down, you get the score of the kill. You enjoy shooting a pilot with cannons and guns blazing? What a sport!
Sorry everyone, I dont want this to get out of hand. I'm just afraid that behavior like this could become an epidemic if it's not addressed I dont want this to be another post to complain about everything that goes on in the MA. I still plan on spending my $14.95 a month. I'm not going to let some dink who has no idea of sportsmanship get under my skin.
to all the honorable players!
Obie
If you bail over a town we're after I'll shoot you in your chute you troop killer u.
You bail over my field I'll shot your chute you spotter u.
You even as much as 1/2 stick stire anywhere in AH I'll shoot your chute you skilless TOSSER!
Other than that I'll let you land but keep in mind the DOT command .ef This is bailed then end flight.... no chute required.
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I usually just bail and then go straight to tower? Who actually bothers to ride their shoot all the way down? :huh
If I see someone in a chute, I'll kill them. It's my way of helping them get back into the action quicker.
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Originally posted by pluck
yes! did i call it in the other thread or what.
hey, he is an armed combatant. i always figured that i was doing them a favor by blasting them. now if find out it's murder, man am i screwed.
if you want my real opinion, the fight is over anyhow so what does it matter. it's not a real chute, and in my opinion has nothing to do sportmanship. most people choose to go down with there planes, because it's faster, and you don't really die. I find the ones bailing the most are usually people very concerned about their score, so they deserve to get their chute shot:aok
no one really dies, it's certainly not worth getting upset causing you to drink. if you don't want your chute shot, its simple, don't bail.
going down with plane is not faster, just bail and tower out before you even open the chute is the fastest way to get back.
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The most satisfying kills are always the ones that get a ch200 whine.
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Patient: Dok., It hurts when I bail
Dok : Don't bail, dweeb
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Welcome to Aces High II!! You have now experienced part of what is not documented. Revel in your new knowledge.
Regards,
Malta
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Had a great one recently when I bailed from a buff just as I switched to TCMP prior to a disco. My icon must have remained but I couldn't be hit. Three guys must have expended at least 3000 rounds from a p38, Spit & p47 trying to kill the chute. It was the funniest thing I have seen in AH. Bet they thought I was "cheating" as the disco finally happened.
-MI-
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Thanks everyone for giving me your opinions! Like I said earlier, this isn't a gripe or to complain. I guess it just hit me the wrong way that day. I don't get to fly every day because work keeps me busy. Flying is one way I can wind down after a busy night. I guess that because I have to deal with knuckleheads at work, I dont expect it when I'm on my time.
One thing I do agree with that many of you have said is if a person is deliberately trying to HO or vulch, then by all means, blast em out of the sky. I wasn't implying that I bailed out to save my score. I didn't even know that it would. You win against a very able opponent in a good dogfight and then you spoil the victory by killing them in the chute. I just didn't get that.
As far as honor and integrity goes, sorry, thats the way I was brought up. Fair play and respect don't just apply to life outside AH2. After all, I'm flying against a real person in a make believe world. Don't they deserve a fair fight too?
Thanks for hearing me out and "educating" me a little more!:aok
Obie
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1. Shooting chutes is fun
2. You don't really die
3. There's no better use for .303 bullets
4. Be a man, go down with your ship and save your dignity.
:)
Bozon
p.s., you can exit the sortie while in the silk before you get shot.
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In WWII chute shooting did happen, not to say it was a honorable act, just dont pull your cord so fast! who wants to wait 5 minutes to get to the tower? The guy was doing Obie a favor! When i see a chute at a high alt Ill take it out since the guy probably just pressed enter too many times accidentaly.
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Killing chutes can be fun..........
Obie could have hit /.ef
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Originally posted by Furball
By the way, since HTC gave chutes handguns, they are armed combatants of war and are valid targets.
exactly.
the amount of times ive died by a 0.45 while sitting on the runway is really not funny. so now if theres a chute, its a valid target.
edit: and LOL to the video :aok
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I'm actually suprised that I've never been shot in chute. I'm one of those that will call "check six's", run into a map room or stand at the end of a runway and plink pilots. I've even taken pot-shots at passing airplanes.
I've never shot a chute, because I've never been shot in chute and I didn't think it could be done. Now I know better.
Wow, I've learned a lot since I've switched to the rooks. I've just discoved that there's a forum, that some people actually talk on the radio, teamwork is still alive in some places outside of the squads, some cv's shouldn't be moved, there's a scoring system, vc200 is a chatroom with a game attached (learned this about a month before leaving the bishops), a downed pilot can stand on a runway and shoot you (I was the pilot shot) and now I've learned that chutes can be shot.
I need to come in here more often.
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If anyone sees me in a chute plz feel free to blaze away...couldn't possibly care less.
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If HTC never intended for them to to be shot, they wouldn't be coded that way.
That being said, I think its kinda lame, but I dont let it bother me, some guy wants to shoot at me while im in a chute, hoorah for him. I suspect that with a few, they view it as a way to actually kill something.
Dont get so upset over it.
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If you bother to bail, just end sortie and return to tower. Riding the chute to the ground does nothing more for you than waste time and invite attack.
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If your dumb enough to wait for guy to kill your chute u deserve it.........
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If chutes weren't supposed to be shot, they wouldn't explode when you shoot them.
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Originally posted by Obie303
:rofl Please tell me it was me! lol. Whats the point of bailing out? All it does is help your score if you are over your own teritory. I've seen people bail on top of our airfield. Guess what he y will do if I dont shoot them. They will sit on the runway and vulch with their uber 45s.
Not to mention the pretty explosions, :rofl
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i wish you could shoot the silk so that the meatbomb falls to the ground.
HTC needs to add more chute killing features.
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Even better, we could have the tracers set the silk on fire!
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I will admit, I have dine this ONCE, because I was soo pissed at the guy, and wanted to know what would happen, but I think he ended sortie before my shots hit, Note this was within my first week of AH. I hadnt shot the plane down, but I heard the range, and I was pissed at the guy (As were we all). Nontheless, I agree that this is bad behavior. I am not being a hipocrit, I am not doing this ever again.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
...they are well mannered and polite...
Jeffery Dalmer could be well manered and polite at certian times.
just because someone can put on a facade does not mean they are a good person.
I have met many a******* in life who were all polite and stuff certian times, but all they ended up being is like a shady used car salesman. personally I have met more of those people in life than what you describe.
just an observation about differences in opinions and observations of others.
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I shot chutes because that's what I'd have done in the war- make sure as many of those bastages as I could hit never flew another sortie after I shot them down.
I guess I also did it for the cool pop and the occasional shrieking afterwards.
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it has happened to me alot... i dont kill the silk unless they are bailing over a base that we are trying to capture and im in a GV of some sort.. some folks know that when you bail over your base while it is under attack you can land and defend the map room with your 45... granted you will only be successful for a little while, sometimes a little while is all you need until back up arrives.
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Originally posted by Furball
i wish you could shoot the silk so that the meatbomb falls to the ground.
HTC needs to add more chute killing features.
I wish you could hit them with your prop and then have the blood and meaty remains get splattered all over your plane.
ack-ack
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Not shooting chutes is one of a few concessions I make to the crybabies of AH. For myself...I love shootin a .45, come on in :)
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There is no more noble act you can do in AH than spare someone the long ride down in a chute.
Whoever shot you down is a bastard. If he isn't a bastard, ask him if he's interested in joining.
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My god man.. how can you shoot chutes?
... I just don't lead them as far....
bad-dum bum.
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Once upon a time, a guy dangling from a chute violated my sister. I've been blowing up bailers ever since.
PS...I've got pics of the violation for sale to anyone who's interested.
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I cry whenever I see a chute get shot. Sometimes I'll tell the shooter how sad it made me feel on VOX, and we discuss our feelings about chute shooting. We usually end up with a better understanding of each other.
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I even shoot chutes in IL2 just to keep in practice.
There they went to the trouble to show the chute deflating and having the pilot thunder down to his death.
Think they ment to have you shoot the chutes?
Killing other pilots in thier chutes was the probably the norm in WW2. So of course its in the game.
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Did he properly laugh at your on private channel afterwards?
SOB, my bid starts at 5$ (Is your sister named 'Funkypants'?)
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When someone bails from their aircraft in a dogfight, they drop below it, obviously. So to get guns on a chute, you have to burn more E to do so, making you vulnerable to other attackers.
So really, if you shoot a chute, you're showing just how good a pilot you are -- that you can afford to take this risk, and you're telling the guy under canopy just how much you care.
Plus, if that chute guy takes it the wrong way, only good things can happen. He may grab the nearest Spit and charge back to challenge you again, allowing you to repeat the demonstration. Or he might just ***** about in on channel 1, which does you a better service than the kill buffer ever did.
Gentlemen shoot chutes.
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all this talk of chute shooting, i dont remember the last time i seen one, i shot somethin down and all i see is it fall all the way to the ground, and im talkin one im 10 15k up. i never seen anyone bail. i prob wouldnt shot it anyway, waste of ammo and if we are in the middle of no where (where i catch alot of porkers)he'll just drive himself nuts floating slowly to the ground. I rather let him torture him self then have him curse my name, but he's prob doin that anyway since i killed him.
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Originally posted by bkbandit
all this talk of chute shooting, i dont remember the last time i seen one, i shot somethin down and all i see is it fall all the way to the ground, and im talkin one im 10 15k up. i never seen anyone bail. i prob wouldnt shot it anyway, waste of ammo and if we are in the middle of no where (where i catch alot of porkers)he'll just drive himself nuts floating slowly to the ground. I rather let him torture him self then have him curse my name, but he's prob doin that anyway since i killed him.
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You dont even have to deploy chute, and it bails you succesfully. That needs to be fixed by the way.
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I've never intentionally shot a chute, only accidentally; If my aim is way off while I'm shooting at the pilot suspended from the chute, for example.
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Besides, if a dweeb bails it usually meanst that he's after me gold.
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Originally posted by Mini D
There is no more noble act you can do in AH than spare someone the long ride down in a chute.
Whoever shot you down is a bastard. If he isn't a bastard, ask him if he's interested in joining.
Originally posted by SOB
Once upon a time, a guy dangling from a chute violated my sister. I've been blowing up bailers ever since.
PS...I've got pics of the violation for sale to anyone who's interested.
I wondered when you "Bastards" were going to weigh in on the subject.
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If getting shot in your chute rankles your feathers, just wait till you experience the other stuff that goes on in the game.
I think this has been addressed a million times in the past, but this silly notion of "honor" and "fair play" is just that... silly. It's war...it's a war GAME...emphasis on game.
This is not real life.
The other guy is out to kill you...period. Puff your chest out and pretend some silly sense of "honor" and "chivalry" or some such and he'll kill you all the quicker.
Besides, if I see a chute, I'll shoot it...I'm being curteous and saving you the long wait while you float down......
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I bail constantly and replane. If I upped with the wrong amount of gas, I'll bail. If my squaddies are upping from elsewhere, I'll bail and replane. If my engine goes out not in gliding distance of a runway, I'll bail and replane. If my tail is shot off and that airframe is done with, I'll bail & replane. I play to fly, not waste alot of time landing/falling out of the sky :)
I rarely open a chute. .ef gets you back to the tower and back on the runway alot faster. I never get strafed either lol. I do hit the ground on occasion though.
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Originally posted by aztec
Not shooting chutes is one of a few concessions I make to the crybabies of AH. For myself...I love shootin a .45, come on in :)
i smoked the engine of a LA that shot me down... he kept trying to hit me when i was in my chute... ha ha... gotta love the ole .45
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I think it's important to point out that, whatever IL-2 may say, real parachutes do not deflate and become useless when shot with a single bullet. It takes many bullet holes to make any sort of difference on rate of descent, and it's still not going to be a fatal fall.
As for the subject of parachute shooting, I have two things to say. First, it was a necessary evil of war practiced by all sides, and secondly, learn to HALO like I do. Even if players don't shoot you, the flak does. In fact, the flak's so unrealistically accurate that it usually hits me when I'm still in free far, before I open my 'chute.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
...As for the subject of parachute shooting, I have two things to say. First, it was a necessary evil of war practiced by all sides, and secondly, learn to HALO like I do. Even if players don't shoot you, the flak does. In fact, the flak's so unrealistically accurate that it usually hits me when I'm still in free far, before I open my 'chute.
Speaking of a HALO, HT can we control our pilots during the free fall? ;)
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ever since My plane's prop was ruined by flying thru a chute, I started shooting them down, besides, chute rhymes with shoot, you figure it out
no dishonor in vulching, no attacking force in their right mind would purposely let the enemy off the ground. in real life or in game.... lighten up and enjoy yourself.
Quote:."".As for the subject of parachute shooting, I have two things to say. First, it was a necessary evil of war practiced by all sides, and secondly, learn to HALO like I do. Even if players don't shoot you, the flak does. In fact, the flak's so unrealistically accurate that it usually hits me when I'm still in free far, before I open my 'chute.""
Zorsterer, chute shooting didn't become comon until after the Battle of Britian when the english pilots kept getting their tulips handed to them, then the Germans responded in kind, I would like to know of a russian pilot that witnessed one of their chutes shot down, doubt you'll find one, and Rarely during all of WW1 was it done
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I usually only shoot at the chutes if I have 37mm or better... I like to make their death as quick and painless as possible :D
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He is right. This behavior is unacceptable. The right way to do it is to get them with your prop. Its a little messy but it requires more skillzzzz :O
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
He is right. This behavior is unacceptable. The right way to do it is to get them with your prop. Its a little messy but it requires more skillzzzz :O
:lol :lol
The thing with chutes is, you don't lead 'em as much.
j/k
I think shooting chutes is lame. But chuting shoots is okay by me.
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Originally posted by KaK3
ever since My plane's prop was ruined by flying thru a chute, I started shooting them down, besides, chute rhymes with shoot, you figure it out
no dishonor in vulching, no attacking force in their right mind would purposely let the enemy off the ground. in real life or in game.... lighten up and enjoy yourself.
Quote:."".As for the subject of parachute shooting, I have two things to say. First, it was a necessary evil of war practiced by all sides, and secondly, learn to HALO like I do. Even if players don't shoot you, the flak does. In fact, the flak's so unrealistically accurate that it usually hits me when I'm still in free far, before I open my 'chute.""
Zorsterer, chute shooting didn't become comon until after the Battle of Britian when the english pilots kept getting their tulips handed to them, then the Germans responded in kind, I would like to know of a russian pilot that witnessed one of their chutes shot down, doubt you'll find one, and Rarely during all of WW1 was it done
I only used the whole quote for the HALO reference, just wondering if HT could model a "air foil" for our pilots before we open the chute, would make bailing near a friendly base fun. If you have enough alt you can "fly" all the way to the base. Could be fun, would be funny to watch folks try it out for the first few weeks ;)
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actually once i was dogfighting in 8 player in a betty vs a 109 *i was the betty* so he got my escorts and set me on fire. i bailed and was all "IM not done with u!!!!" so he turns around tries to strafe me and misses and i hit his tail with the .45 and it snaps right off.... it was that one last bullet from the fight that broke it... the entire room was in an uproar about it :lol
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We got the Betty?
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gah i awlays confuse the betty and that one japanses bomber in AH
g4m? :confused:
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I was being a smart ass:D
G4M is the Betty. Ki-67 is the Peggy.
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Depends on the dangler.
Shooting chutes is great marksmanship practice.
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i only shoot chutes. I follow sdud or stang or furball around untill they shoot up a plane and make a pansy bail then i shoot his chute. I'm like the clean up guy. who dey!
Dud Out :cry