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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Animal on February 22, 2001, 12:18:00 PM
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CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/02/22/hague.trial.03/index.html)
This is outrageous. I wouldve shot there on the spot, right them on the court room.
[This message has been edited by Animal (edited 02-22-2001).]
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European courts are known to be very liberal, doesn't surprise me.
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I hope they rape those motherf**ers in jail.
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I agree with Animal, there is no excuse or reason for what they did.
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And yet some on this message board would have you believe that we are in the Balkans only for profit (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I agree, 25 years is not enough.
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Death?
Dunno.
I still remember the 5 Marines raping the 13 year old Japanese girl. I don't believe any of them got this lengthy of a sentance.
...not that I believe longer isn't deserved. Its just not a case to use when calling European courts "liberal".
AKDejaVu
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twenty five years in jail sounds about right .. as long as they have their bananas amputated and sewn on to their foreheads, just another example of a half arse justice system.
Eagler
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Four (proven) charges of rape including 15 year girl? 12 years in nice european jail? Women mentally scarred forever and many unable to have children...
With exercise he will be looking as well as he does now and have a long and fruitfull life ahead of him upon release.
He may even get an extra college education or two while he is there, may be a doctorate.
If he is really smart, he can renounce his crimes, find God, call to respect women's rights and get nominated for Nobel Peace Prize.
miko
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I've always said that capital punishment is a waste of resources.
Turn all rapists and death-sentence convicted criminals into slaves and squeeze them all they can. I dont give a damn if it sounds immoral or unconstitucional, those bastards destroyed a life , rapists in particular turn a normal being into a person that will live in fear almost their entire lives... dammit, they no longer have any right or deserve ANY kind of human rights. They knew bloody well what they were doing when they did it, why should we give them any rights in return? People dont change in prision, they just get sly or become repeated offenders.
Chain them, inject a latent poison in their blood and put the antidote on their daily food, make them work every day instead of sitting in a cell watching tv, use them for spare parts, whatever. Killing them is a mercy, leaving them in a prision is mercyful. Slave camps is what they should be put in.
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At the risk of sounding babaric, i believe in eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth.
Execution is too light for those wastes of sperm and egg.
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Hehe spatula, those rapists might like it!
I still say turn em into slaves and make them work till they die. No tv or commodities, a cot, bread, water and fleas to give them protein.
Its a real neat application of an outdated concept with a modern twist.
Vote Tac for World Emperor!
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Shoot them? Only in the gut...
Swamp
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I dont know if any of you read RAINBOW SIX (the novel)
There is a part in wich a terrorist shoots a kid with cancer wich was a hostage, and one of the Rainbow snipers shoots the terrorist in his gut so he dies slow and painful
This is how I want these guys to die. Go to the article and look at their faces. I can almost hear them in the courtroom, thinking "bah I dont care, I'd do it again, only 25 years, psst.."
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
European courts are known to be very liberal, doesn't surprise me.
If you look carefully you might find a word "International" in that news, Not "European".
How do you think about Nuremberg tribunal; Was it "European" or "International" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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More info about International tribunal: http://www.un.org/icty/ (http://www.un.org/icty/)
Here's another fine site: http://www.law-lib.utoronto.ca/Diana/fulltext/chin2.htm (http://www.law-lib.utoronto.ca/Diana/fulltext/chin2.htm)
[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 02-23-2001).]
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
European courts are known to be very liberal, doesn't surprise me.
Sorry Rip you are completly missing the point here : it's an international tribunal.
And you cannot juge our legales system as we have almost one completly different system for each country.
Some can compare to the american one ,like UK if I don't say an error but French and the system based one the "code Napoleon" are in no way comparable to US system
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Originally posted by Tac:
Chain them, inject a latent poison in their blood and put the antidote on their daily food, make them work every day instead of sitting in a cell watching tv, use them for spare parts, whatever. Killing them is a mercy, leaving them in a prision is mercyful. Slave camps is what they should be put in.
That make me sick (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
If in a "modern" society we behave like that what would be the difference between the criminal and the average guy ?
The middle age as ended there's a lot of century and I'm perhaps an idiot but I believe in redemption.
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What kind of punishment should these guys have?
I kinda like that old "Hammurabi law"; It could be righteous to do in this case.
http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/mil-ii990524e.htm (http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/mil-ii990524e.htm)
http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/kar-ii951116e.htm (http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/kar-ii951116e.htm)
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Sure is a sick world for the majority of us
I live in the UK and by christ i wish we had an american system for some of the sick crimes that happen here
Not too many details but here are a few examples of un-even sentences.....
Two men found guilty of one murder given life and i mean life......Farmer kills one intruder with shotgun second intruder escapes he got 25 years for protecting himself !!!!......and almost monthly child rapers/killers get sentences from 4yrs to 8yrs in cushy secure units
Now in other parts of the world would this happen ??? i think not
This country talks tough on crime (so the government says bahhhhh) but gives very liberal sentences to some of the most hideous crimes imaginable
Life for life i say is fair, As for the child crimes and most of the other hideous crimes i'd gladly pull the hangmans lever/press a button to fry them switch a machine on to pump a lethal injection into them and ya know what ? i think (damn know) i would be able to sleep at nights too
Our worst crimes are increasing here and to me there's one good reason why.....No darn Deterrant just Cushy places that cost the earth to build and operate where they will be safe n secure from any retribution from other inmates, Then don't forget the moronic sentences they get......given 4yrs with good behaviour they can be out in 1 and 1/2yrs and similarly a 10 year sentence can end up as a 4yr one and so on
I may sound a little strong worded but i knew a girl once who was raped and abused and to be frank it totally messed her up for life (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) (as in she has to take tablets to calm her allow her to sleep peacfully etc etc)and the bastard that did it got 6yrs and served just under 4yrs
The sentences passed for those warcrimes are a landmark, So personally i think they were lower than wished so that a sentence would be passed and supported by all the representatives involved (just my belief)
Tit
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Here are the Hammurabi Law" (http://www.lawresearch.com/v10/regs/codeham.htm)
Very interesting to read (Boring day at work...)
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I say simply remove their sexual organs and throw them in a muslim jail with 'i raped a 15 year old muslim girl' tatood on their foreheads.
I say rapists in britain should be locked in a room with the victims family.Arm the family with spiked clubs (with rusty nails (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))!
they deserve no pity...no rights...no mercy.
hazed
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"That make me sick
If in a "modern" society we behave like that what would be the difference between the criminal and the average guy ?
The middle age as ended there's a lot of century and I'm perhaps an idiot but I believe in redemption"
So do I straffo, but redemption should only apply to those who do NOT kill or rape with full knowledge of what they are doing. A thief can be redeemed, a drunkard can be redeemed, the guy that likes to walk naked in central park can redeem. But rapists and 1st degree murderers BLEW any chance when they commited their crime.
The difference between the average guy and the criminal would be that the criminal does not have the chance to go free and commit another crime.. possibly against the "average guy" or his daughter.
Honestly my man, if the guy that is just moving in next door to you was a convicted (and released for good behaviour) child rapist or serial killer... do you REALLY think the system works? Or believe in redemption when that person starts talking to your daughter?
I hope not.
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Originally posted by straffo:
If in a "modern" society we behave like that what would be the difference between the criminal and the average guy?
The average guy abides by the law.
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Well, not always miko, but the average guy sure as heck does not rape or commit murder.
In my view,the moment they do that, they cease to have any rights.