Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nightshift82 on September 13, 2006, 09:00:38 PM
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I would like to see the main arena returned back the way it was.
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I second, third, fourth & fifth that
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Agreed
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IN!
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Agreed. Bring back the MA.
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Yes im in
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Gonna miss it, im sure the brains around here will find a way to make me love this game the way I did a day ago,,, heres to the ju88 being the big dog for once,now lets fill out the list of planes in all these arenas, I think if that happens you might see these posts dry up...:confused:
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I disagree.
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No way, this is the first major positive change in gameplay in 3 years.
Give HTC a couple of weeks to get the bugs out.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Give HTC a couple of weeks to get the bugs out.
Even if they don't, give the new set up a couple weeks to see if you like it.
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I want to see how it shakes out. The old MA was getting to be a PITA. Especially if you were a Knight and outnumbered all the time.
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Yes, bring back the old MA. Leave the new ones up though.
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[SIZE=12]BRING IT BACK THIS SUCKS[/SIZE]
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KEEP IT, IT RULES
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I think they should change it to 3 arena's
Early Late and ALL arena.
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YES, BRING IT BACK!!!
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Give it time. Everyone freaked about ENY and now the complaints are only a small ripple.
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early , late and all sure makes much more sense than whats here now.
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bring it back HT. This aint no fun
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For those who want the old MA back, Tuff noogies. Go fly your panzy arsed La-7 in the late war arena.:mad:
I for one welcome our early war overlords. :D
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People seem to be under the mistaken impression that the only ones who want the old MA back are ElGay and Spixteen dweebs.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
No way, this is the first major positive change in gameplay in 3 years.
Yep. :aok
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Originally posted by Ghosth
No way, this is the first major positive change in gameplay in 3 years.
Give HTC a couple of weeks to get the bugs out.
Hear Hear!
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If those that want the MA back so bad, go the Late War 2 arena and go hord, run and gang to your merry little dweeb's heart content.
As HiTech pointed out, this was done to save AH because in its current state is was sick and was going to do more harm than good in the long run. But then 99.99% of those whining for the MA to come back are those that needed the security of a late war plane and the hord to fall back on.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If those that want the MA back so bad, go the Late War 2 arena and go hord, run and gang to your merry little dweeb's heart content.
As HiTech pointed out, this was done to save AH because in its current state is was sick and was going to do more harm than good in the long run. But then 99.99% of those whining for the MA to come back are those that needed the security of a late war plane and the hord to fall back on.
ack-ack
Hear Hear!
:D
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
early , late and all sure makes much more sense than whats here now.
Except for those of us who like the Mid-War period. For us this is better.
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Pipe down Wilbuz!!!
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Originally posted by Karnak
Except for those of us who like the Mid-War period. For us this is better.
A lot better and the quality of fights in the MWA have been far and above what you could have ever expected in the MA. Not just because of the plane matchups, (honestly, shooting down a Spitfire V is just as easy for me as shooting down a La7 or P-51D) but you can actually find a willing 1v1 partner. So far haven't run into anyone that was shy of a 1v1.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Pipe down Wilbuz!!!
Hear Hear!
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Originally posted by Karnak
Except for those of us who like the Mid-War period. For us this is better.
Wouldn't 41-43 in one arena and 43-45 in the other cover it pretty well?
At some point you are splitting hairs.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Wouldn't 41-43 in one arena and 43-45 in the other cover it pretty well?
At some point you are splitting hairs.
Not really, no.
If you get the mid-late '43 rides like the Spit VIII, P-51B and Mossie VI in the '39-'43 arena then the early war birds suffer and suffer badly.
If you put those same aircraft in the '43 to '45 arena they suffer in turn.
Essentially what you described is insufficiently granular.
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In Mid war, have all early war planes enabled.
In late war...have ALL planes enabled. So basically it's the old MA
Doesn't that sort of sort out everyones problems?
Then let's give it 2 weeks (there's that term again), to see how the populations level out across the arenas, and then see if there's something to b**** about then
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For me as a non-active AH player, this is very exciting and I can't wait to get back into the game. This is one change I've been waiting for, just hope the arenas are fairly even populated.
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bring it back please.
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Originally posted by Saxman
People seem to be under the mistaken impression that the only ones who want the old MA back are ElGay and Spixteen dweebs.
At least someone else is saying this :)
Used to enjoy fighting the lgays and spit16's in a hurri mk1, sadly no more :(
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How'd you like to log into an arena for your usual evening session and find that instead of the usual 90 people in there, you've got 40? Numbers for each country are 10,13,20. Makes it hard for myself and my team-mates to have fun. Then the ENY kicks in and you can only fly a B5N or a C47. Cannot even grab a manned ack or shorebattery. So then you head over to mid war to find 9,10,4. Or how about a pony run in the late war arena - 9,11,8.
I fear that this will become my new AH environment.
"Thanks to your patronage Aces High has grown to the point where a single Main Arena is no longer a sufficient solution" - Myself, and about 90 other overseas customers who fly the same time I do are pretty sure that it WAS sufficient. Aces High is not fun any more.
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Well, it seems that we effectively have the old main arena back, the late war arena now has all planes enabled, not just late war/mid war planes. So now you can go perk farming with your Hurri Mk 1, or just duke it out in whatever plane you feel like. We still have the early war and the mid war arenas too, so the people who love to fly P-40B's and still have a chance of winning can fight with planes of equal ability(or maybe just a bit better, the B stinks:D ).
I think I'm starting to like this now, I took a Spit 8 out for a spin in the late war arena and landed 4 kills, the highest amount of kills I have ever landed in a fighter.:)
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what would make the 3 arena's work is if there was only 2 countries in each arena instead of 3, having 3 throws off the ENY.
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well, the first couple of days i had good fights in my p40e(dammit they need to add f4u) agaisnt 109s and spits. BUt it gets stale quick, 5 bishops 3 knights and 18 rooks, u have a better shot in h2h. During this period u see nothin but hurricans:lol i guess nobody feels safe without cannons. BUt the plane sets are freaking weak, they need to add planes and they need to add them now. This isnt new, i couldve done an h2h room in the same format, there wouldnt be no difference since there under 8 guys a room anyway. THey should just leave there early mid and late war rooms and bring back the m/a and leave them all on and see what happens. Add more fighter gvs, the wish list has become a waste of time, even the low budget games have a full plane set, what the hell is the problem. Give it a chance give it a chance, fine but at least announce, in 1 week panther tank is coming, september 29 sherman b25 and ki43 p40n will be done. Cool new rooms but it will become stale just like the m/a was soon with out new toys. There so many things aces high could add, they could become the primer combat sim, but they can reorganize the arena all they want, doesnt make it new, whichs the difference, i see some of the old junk i havent seen in a while, give me a break.
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bkbandit,
The problems lies with them spending so many resources on CT which is an entirely different product.
I'll give them credit for taking on such an ambitious new product but its costing them a lot of growth of the core product. I actually like some aspects of the new arenas. What I don't get was that they did it out of the blue without any consideration to the effects it would have on the community. Again, to their credit, they backed it back out to what they probably should have done the first time.
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costing them alot of growth? there main product isnt growing at all.yes i agree that us as the players should have been told of a change like this. But theres a faction that worships aces high and thinks they can do no wrong, this is bull. "this is htc's game, they do what they want" yea they can do what they want and play the game them selves. This isnt the only online game in the world, when the big home consoles(ps3 xbox360 nintendo wii) get up and runing there going to be big, almost all of the top titles have online play, where does this leave aces high? How long have they been working on ToD, i know i have been hearing about it for atleast a year, has it been "coming" out for longer then that? The dam plane set isnt even done, PTO, there no betty, there no b29(every ww2 game has this) no sherman no jap tanks no f4u1a no f6f-3....and i noe im missing some. Lets say we do the south african theater? Huge holes in the roster. Theyll put all this time into Tod and now there pressed to finish the plane set. And nobody noes if it is even any good, with all the time they spend on it it should blow my mind, but i have seen things bomb out before. "Oh u can leave and somebody will come in and replace u" yea a 2 week trail noob, and then when u cant get a good fight u complain, and after time u move on to a different game.
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Originally posted by bkbandit
costing them alot of growth? there main product isnt growing at all.yes i agree that us as the players should have been told of a change like this. But theres a faction that worships aces high and thinks they can do no wrong, this is bull. "this is htc's game, they do what they want" yea they can do what they want and play the game them selves. This isnt the only online game in the world, when the big home consoles(ps3 xbox360 nintendo wii) get up and runing there going to be big, almost all of the top titles have online play, where does this leave aces high? How long have they been working on ToD, i know i have been hearing about it for atleast a year, has it been "coming" out for longer then that? The dam plane set isnt even done, PTO, there no betty, there no b29(every ww2 game has this) no sherman no jap tanks no f4u1a no f6f-3....and i noe im missing some. Lets say we do the south african theater? Huge holes in the roster. Theyll put all this time into Tod and now there pressed to finish the plane set. And nobody noes if it is even any good, with all the time they spend on it it should blow my mind, but i have seen things bomb out before. "Oh u can leave and somebody will come in and replace u" yea a 2 week trail noob, and then when u cant get a good fight u complain, and after time u move on to a different game.
The Xbox and Ps3 games also charge a online fee on top of the broadband fee's.
And the 2 weeks trial Cadets will know nothing of the old Main Arena, which by the way needed the change it got.
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Alotta people are flamed about this, no suprise. Splitting the arena's in to 3 parts dynamically changed the gameplay. And, to top it off, there are probably 400-700 different opinions online daily, as to what good gameplay is. I don't really think that this is because of people posting complaints on the boards, because It was only a few accounts(That's right, to HTC you are an account)that were being derogatory. What has happened is, that the split has hidden something else going on.
If you all look through the threads, HTC has put out a call for alpha testers for ToD. Camoflaged it really nicely, too. I'd bet that when CT gets going, They'll almost be forced to go back to the old MA, Because I'm sure he doesn't have unlimited servers. Wait and see.
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Frode, put the crack/ or Meth pipe down and back away.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
I'd bet that when CT gets going, They'll almost be forced to go back to the old MA, Because I'm sure he doesn't have unlimited servers. Wait and see.
God, I hope not! Unless you're the mega squad, vultching, Horde type. Then you might think it was just peachy.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The Xbox and Ps3 games also charge a online fee on top of the broadband fee's.
And the 2 weeks trial Cadets will know nothing of the old Main Arena, which by the way needed the change it got.
U need broad band to play online games anyway. And no, im not one of the guys that plays with the box to wrap myself out of trouble. Wiat and see the internet fees for these consle games. New cadets, vs. old vets, i hope u like the hoing vulchin type because ur not getting a good fight.
NOw theres only 2 3 main fights goin on in the map at once. IN the other m/a u could go somewhere else to pick a fight or defend,
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Lye-el, Sweeth, I think you fellas missed my point. What I meant, was that because the server load with 3-4 seperate MA's(like we have now,) plus the additional burden that CT is expected to cause, and all of the TA, DA, and AvA, what do you think HTC can do? I mean, I would guess he has a decent server, but come on, It's a small company. I would doubt that he uses the same servers that a 5,000-10,000 employee operation would have. I kinda believe that is why the current arena caps are so low, If you notice, you add them together, and the total capacity of the 3-4 arena's is the same as the one single old MA. Now, maybe I'm getting the server mechanics wrong(please correct me if I do) but It is limited by the I/O transmission lines as well...So If he has a REALLY high bandwith operation, He needs appropriate Lines into and out of his mother-system.
He could either upgrade(which will cost money) or he can shift things around in-game to make it all happen...
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frode,
The bandwidth issue is a function of the hosting facility not the machine. Unless you have some sort of problem even a low end machine can saturate the typical 100Mb pipe used to connect it to a router. A lot of times your server will have great connectivity to some locations, crappy to others and erractic connections to others. At times any connection can be erratic. Thats the nature of the Internet.
Presumably, by breaking the arenas apart they now have the option of spreading them over more than one box if thats the problem. I don't think Skuzzy ever said what the problem(s) are so its tough to say.
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rabbidrabbit: There was not a technical resone of any sort for the change we made. Infact all areans are running on the same server as the main used to.
Our only current tech issue is that we are currently limited to around 1000 people in 1 arena.
To go above 1000 would take some changing of the server code.
HiTech
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Fair enough HT.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Agree, bring back the LARGE MA.
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Agree, bring back the LARGE MA.
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funny thing is that the lwa is always the fullest arena, u got to now when the peak hours r to get a god fight in the other arenas. I wish they would run the current setup and the m/a and see which room gets the numbers.
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[SIZE=8]YES, BRING BACK MA[/SIZE]
(or reduce this to only TWO 400 player arena's)
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Alotta people are flamed about this, no suprise. Splitting the arena's in to 3 parts dynamically changed the gameplay. And, to top it off, there are probably 400-700 different opinions online daily, as to what good gameplay is. I don't really think that this is because of people posting complaints on the boards, because It was only a few accounts(That's right, to HTC you are an account)that were being derogatory. What has happened is, that the split has hidden something else going on.
If you all look through the threads, HTC has put out a call for alpha testers for ToD. Camoflaged it really nicely, too. I'd bet that when CT gets going, They'll almost be forced to go back to the old MA, Because I'm sure he doesn't have unlimited servers. Wait and see.
it pissed me off because i dont like flying with only 10 other people.
alot of you, as well as HTC seem to ONLY think about the peak player figures.
what about when theres only 60players online, spread between 3 arenas and 3 teams in each arena? Its beyond stupid.:cry
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Originally posted by Lye-El
God, I hope not! Unless you're the mega squad, vultching, Horde type. Then you might think it was just peachy.
Why is it that folks only think those that liked to do the above didn't like the split?
Now that all planes are enabled in LW it's not too bad, but the low end of the numbers still seem to be off.
Also to those folks that continue to say that you couldn't get kills and live in the old planes in the old MA are full of it, or their SA is lacking.
Check out my stats for tour 72....
Hurri Mk1......201 kills......84 deaths
Some of the most fun I had in AH.
Guess some folks need the crutch of a level playing field ;)
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Originally posted by zorstorer
Why is it that folks only think those that liked to do the above didn't like the split?
Now that all planes are enabled in LW it's not too bad, but the low end of the numbers still seem to be off.
Also to those folks that continue to say that you couldn't get kills and live in the old planes in the old MA are full of it, or their SA is lacking.
Check out my stats for tour 72....
Hurri Mk1......201 kills......84 deaths
Some of the most fun I had in AH.
Guess some folks need the crutch of a level playing field ;)
aye. I once landed i think it was 9kills in a spit mark1, so it WAS do-able in the old MA.
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Originally posted by zorstorer
Guess some folks need the crutch of a level playing field ;)
or they are like you and need the hord for their kills.
ack-ack
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what needs to be done is bring back the larger maps. i can tolerate small maps but not all the time. folks say larger maps breed milk running. big deal. if people have fun doing that, so be it. they are having fun in thier own way.
with small maps normally i have only 2 choices. i can up from a base with alot of folks there or go to a base where there is no one (yippie). with larger maps i have a greater choice as to where i want to go and how many people i want to fight against.
my 2 cents.....
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Originally posted by DadRabit
what needs to be done is bring back the larger maps. i can tolerate small maps but not all the time. folks say larger maps breed milk running. big deal. if people have fun doing that, so be it. they are having fun in thier own way.
with small maps normally i have only 2 choices. i can up from a base with alot of folks there or go to a base where there is no one (yippie). with larger maps i have a greater choice as to where i want to go and how many people i want to fight against.
my 2 cents.....
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you want 20 people to defend 70+ bases? :lol :rofl
even small maps are milk run heaven right now.
"outgrown" the 1 server setup my arse.
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Thats the problem... Maybe HTC has outgrown the problem during primetime but doing this has really screwed up off peak hours.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
or they are like you and need the hord for their kills.
ack-ack
I thought I knew you better than that ack ack :(
Sadly I guess I was mistaken
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what times do you fly lag?
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Much like ths one at the end ack ack? :aok
Clicky for a .rar of it (http://www.ajlowell.com/movies/film1.rar)
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Originally posted by DadRabit
what times do you fly lag?
between 10-15 BST and 23-03 BST
(BST = GMT+1)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
or they are like you and need the hord for their kills.
ack-ack
Mec typically holds his own quite well, no matter what he chooses to fly. On our squad night, I've seen him log on typically at the tail end, so he in fact doesn't ask for a lot of help to land his kills. Most of us are off the game when he shows up.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
or they are like you and need the hord for their kills.
ack-ack
Have you ever flown a Mk1 in a green horde?
LMAO, youre lucky if you get one kill.... so many "helpful" souls out there....
Mec, you alt monkey!... flying at 9K?
PS: Im glad im not the only one getting in too deep and crashing on takeoff while typing ;) Seriously... nice handling those three... the N1K shouldve been dead.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Have you ever flown a Mk1 in a green horde?
LMAO, youre lucky if you get one kill.... so many "helpful" souls out there....
Mec, you alt monkey!... flying at 9K?
PS: Im glad im not the only one getting in too deep and crashing on takeoff while typing ;) Seriously... nice handling those three... the N1K shouldve been dead.
Yea I was wondering why he didnt go down....though I really didn't view the hits closely.
I guess somewhere up there I have the green hoard hiding in the clouds, much like SHawk when he is working for score ;)
:aok
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only 2 planes i have ever seen 99Mech in is a HurriMKI and a Fw-190-F-8.