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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Triumph on September 14, 2006, 04:20:12 PM
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Ok...this multi-arena thing os ok but I think they should have left the main arena as it was. I can't find the guys in my squad. I've got to search 5 arenas every 15 min and try to round them up. I cought one guy taking bases in the arena with 6 people in it, another bombing deserted strat-targets, and another HO-ing everything in sight with a HURRI-2C in the early arena.
Bring back the main arena...and keep the extra arenas for the 2% that actually want them.
If an arena is full...I cant even get in to round up the guys in my squad.
Am I the only one that feels this way? :confused:
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187226
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Sounds like a threat.
Why don't you just shut down the whole lame thing and give us our money back.
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Originally posted by Triumph
Sounds like a threat.
Why don't you just shut down the whole lame thing and give us our money back.
Here's a cheesewheel!
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To all in this game just wanted to say
I have had a blast butt with the new changes its just lost somthing. It's been 2.5 years for me made lots of friends had good times good fights and some bad ones any hoo Jam934 :aok
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Wow. You gave it a whole day to settle down and see what happened. You're stamina is amazing.
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yet another "look at me, I'll be back tomorrow" post.
:cry
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Why are guys dicks
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Originally posted by jam934
Why are guys dicks
After 4 years, you get tired of the whining. But the cussing is cute! :aok
Now "Later"!
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Ok its the second day of this "update to make the game better" and it is SO STUPID im sick of this haveing to go to all arenas to find my squadies...yea yea were makeing arena to arena comms thats not going to help on squad night when all 90 of my squadies granted 50 of em want to fly want to get into an arena thats full and then they cant fly with the rest of their squad....yaya fly in a different arena why not just spilit the squad in hall?
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
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teach your CO how to use the squadron MOTD function.
Say "hey..today we'll be in XYZ arena" or use the magical invention called email.
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Originally posted by Triumph
Sounds like a threat.
Why don't you just shut down the whole lame thing and give us our money back.
Ironic, considering your sig. :confused:
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Do I know you? Its ok if you leave, but no need to post a suicide note here.
Now that leaves what, like 2 AH'ers from IL now? SWEET.
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Sorry for the dick: This game just lost its luster not just the change its the same old crap
Mash
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:lol
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Here it is 7:00pm (EST) and there is 20 people per side. Great fighting going on with those numbers.:rolleyes:
So, thank you HTC for succumbing to the wishes of the few. I now have an excuse to get off the computer and back into the gym. :D
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Originally posted by viper215
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
Why wait? Its not going back.
Golfer,
you clearly dont understant the implication of what you suggest. That might require effort on someones part, and we cant have that ruining things.
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Originally posted by Triumph
Ok...this multi-arena thing os ok but I think they should have left the main arena as it was. I can't find the guys in my squad. I've got to search 5 arenas every 15 min and try to round them up. I cought one guy taking bases in the arena with 6 people in it, another bombing deserted strat-targets, and another HO-ing everything in sight with a HURRI-2C in the early arena.
Bring back the main arena...and keep the extra arenas for the 2% that actually want them.
If an arena is full...I cant even get in to round up the guys in my squad.
Am I the only one that feels this way? :confused:
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Originally posted by Max
Ironic, considering your sig. :confused:
pwnt.
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Nobody cares... cya
One less and many more will take your place
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WHy not use TeamSpeak or Ventrilo?
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Originally posted by viper215
Ok its the second day of this "update to make the game better" and it is SO STUPID im sick of this haveing to go to all arenas to find my squadies...yea yea were makeing arena to arena comms thats not going to help on squad night when all 90 of my squadies granted 50 of em want to fly want to get into an arena thats full and then they cant fly with the rest of their squad....yaya fly in a different arena why not just spilit the squad in hall?
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
Indeed
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Originally posted by Golfer
teach your CO how to use the squadron MOTD function.
Say "hey..today we'll be in XYZ arena" or use the magical invention called email.
No daaaaaaaaaaa. The leader is not always on. Lousy Staff solution.
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Originally posted by Triumph
No daaaaaaaaaaa. The leader is not alys on. Lousy Staff solution.
Thank you. Even if we use MOTD and we have a bbs so we dont need it. Still what happens when the arena if full my squadies cant fly with the rest of the suqad.
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wow what moronic suggestions...
i guess all of you whiners fly during the same 2 hours??...well our squad is 24/7...shall i go ot he computer every hour to see hwere we are at any given time??
hmmmm...or maybe send hourly emails to let people know..lmao
dont sweat it gurls...as i have already said..this change favors large squads..i am actually not in favor of it because i enjoy the competition...but when BoPs make up 1/5 the population of early war I hope you dont whine too hard...you had ample warning!
oh and get ready for the problems we had with Air Warrior....20k planes and people nonengaging for long periods of time....milkrunning...flying 1/2 hour to find a fight and then the guy running into his ack...gluck deacking with your early war planes gun...long periods of time whe arenas were completely dead.
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Originally posted by jam934
Sorry for the dick: This game just lost its luster not just the change its the same old crap Mash
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these new arenas suck i just tried to get in the early war arena and i keep getting discoed cause its filled im sure all my squaddies are in there. if its not changed in a couple weeks im done with AH for a while.
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Originally posted by viper215
Ok its the second day of this "update to make the game better" and it is SO STUPID im sick of this haveing to go to all arenas to find my squadies...yea yea were makeing arena to arena comms thats not going to help on squad night when all 90 of my squadies granted 50 of em want to fly want to get into an arena thats full and then they cant fly with the rest of their squad....yaya fly in a different arena why not just spilit the squad in hall?
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
What he said
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Originally posted by viper215
Thank you. Even if we use MOTD and we have a bbs so we dont need it. Still what happens when the arena if full my squadies cant fly with the rest of the suqad.
Let's see..... You can go into the bathroom and blow your brains out! Or, you can do what most people will do and go to another arena and have fun. :rolleyes:
My regards,
Widewing
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sweeet, now i can get into the early war arena!! :D
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
oh and get ready for the problems we had with Air Warrior....20k planes and people nonengaging for long periods of time....milkrunning...flying 1/2 hour to find a fight and then the guy running into his ack...gluck deacking with your early war planes gun...long periods of time whe arenas were completely dead. [/B]
20K planes milkrunning, long flights in search of a fight, hadn't your dark future already arrived in the old MA?
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wow, with all you guys leavin that leaves plenty of room for me to get into the early war arena. thanks!!!:D
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Originally posted by Triumph
Sounds like a threat.
Why don't you just shut down the whole lame thing and give us our money back.
why dont you just go watch TV???:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Widewing
Let's see..... You can go into the bathroom and blow your brains out! Or, you can do what most people will do and go to another arena and have fun. :rolleyes:
My regards,
Widewing
We should say nothing.
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We should say nothing.
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I feel the same way.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
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The door is open if you wish to walk out, nothing is holding you in. Not a threat or anything, just saying.
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Wishes of the few = HTC themselves.
You can still fly and fight people? Whats the problem?
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LOL - Jam it's cool to post a good bye. We are not robots.. the cool thing right now is to shoot people down if they disagree. Sorry you didn't like the changes and good luck to you man. But never be afraid to say how you feel, history shows that can lead to bad things. I'm sure the game will settle if you give it a week or so.
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Don't like it myself. But they are smart folks at HTC and I'm sure they will get things worked out. Give it a week and they will get it.
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I think his sig is set to an ironic tone.
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Wishes of the few = HTC themselves.
You can still fly and fight people? Whats the problem?
with 20people online???? how are you going to fight?
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max.... stop rubbishing other peoples threads.
btw i think HTC has made up its mind, and its not going to change back. so i guess us unhappy ones will just have to cancel our accounts and go play else where...
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BYE!
DLTDHYITAOTWO!
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Originally posted by Widewing
Let's see..... You can go into the bathroom and blow your brains out! Or, you can do what most people will do and go to another arena and have fun. :rolleyes:
I wonder if his fingers were trembling as he wrote that (a phrase that will stick in the back of my meager brain for a long time).
Ninety people in a squad? Ninety? I am beginning to comprehend all the fussing about the hordes.
- oldman (but hey, my friend, it's the structure of war! Heh. Another phrase I won't forget.)
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Originally posted by Overlag
with 20people online???? how are you going to fight?
Oh my god! That's only six and two-thirds people per side! How can they manage? When they find each other, where will their backups be?
- oldman (please....you can have really great fights with two people online)
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Originally posted by NCLawman
So, thank you HTC for succumbing to the wishes of the few. I now have an excuse to get off the computer and back into the gym. :D
Or they can succumb to the wishes of the few and change it back.
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Originally posted by Overlag
max.... stop rubbishing other peoples threads.
btw i think HTC has made up its mind, and its not going to change back. so i guess us unhappy ones will just have to cancel our accounts and go play else where...
Pretty sure that's what they said, yes, they aren't changing it back.
Been real, Overlag, would like to have met you. Perhaps you could stop into the AvA before you leave?
- oldman
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Originally posted by moneyguy
sweeet, now i can get into the early war arena!! :D
LOL.
- oldman
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Its ok if you leave, but no need to post a suicide note here.
LMFAO!
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Originally posted by Widewing
Let's see..... You can go into the bathroom and blow your brains out! Or, you can do what most people will do and go to another arena and have fun. :rolleyes:
My regards,
Widewing
OK wise guy at 3pm ET when theres NO ONE in any arena but early arena ill go kill the HORDE of 0 people in the late war DUHHH GET A CLUE.
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Will miss you Jam....wish you had come over and winged a bit b4 you left
brother!!:aok
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Originally posted by viper215
OK wise guy at 3pm ET when theres NO ONE in any arena but early arena ill go kill the HORDE of 0 people in the late war DUHHH GET A CLUE.
Viper, what a lot of guys Just don't get is that YOU (paying customer) are having to change the way you work with the product as opposed to the Product being changed as YOU want the product to work.
Only time I've ever seen anything were the paying customer has to change things around as opposed to the business listening to the paying customer.
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Wow with staff like oldman, i wonder why the AvA sucked.
Good luck developing a personality that will attract people bud!
Hey can you get HiTech to forcefeed your next failed venture down guys throats that were actually having fun? (just not your way):lol
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Dont listen to the tools who are full of themselves.
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Originally posted by Hawco
Viper, what a lot of guys Just don't get is that YOU (paying customer) are having to change the way you work with the product as opposed to the Product being changed as YOU want the product to work.
Only time I've ever seen anything were the paying customer has to change things around as opposed to the business listening to the paying customer.
YOU are a paying subscriber. If you don't like the product, stop paying for it.
Simple.
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What he said^^^ you come in here all high and mighty like you made the game.
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Originally posted by viper215
Ok its the second day of this "update to make the game better" and it is SO STUPID im sick of this haveing to go to all arenas to find my squadies...yea yea were makeing arena to arena comms thats not going to help on squad night when all 90 of my squadies granted 50 of em want to fly want to get into an arena thats full and then they cant fly with the rest of their squad....yaya fly in a different arena why not just spilit the squad in hall?
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
How about nooo, Scott.
Give this thing at least a couple weeks. I haven't had much time to play the last couple days, but I've enjoyed the early war arena.
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Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
guess you will be leaving then because a change such as this will be up for awhile before HT has enough info to make a INFORMED decision.
TBH the stomping your feet threatening to quit wont be effecting any change
it just makes ppl laugh at you
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Originally posted by Hornet
20K planes milkrunning, long flights in search of a fight, hadn't your dark future already arrived in the old MA?
hornet please "give it some time" so you can truly comprehend what those phrases mean...
other old airwarriors are around who can tell you what semi empty arenas provide as entertainment...
but no worries..you see we loved that too..we didnt know better...so most will adapt to this as well!!!
the game just went arcade on me..thats cool..i need arcade in my life too..but for those who enjoyed the tension of the strat portion...it just reverted 10 years.
I AM glad to hear "hurri dweebs" and "190 alt monkeys" terms showing up in the wonderful early war arena already...now that there is no la7 to bash...the next best non slow turnfiter insults will have to adapt to the plane set....makes me warm inside :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Ninety people in a squad? Ninety? I am beginning to comprehend all the fussing about the hordes.
You know I never realized there were 90 people squads WTF for?:huh
Don't give me that community crap ethier. Sheesh go get a compound in Waco.
Thats it Oldman with squads that size I have to remove the Gunfighters from my list of super powers. Let me know when you get to 70.;)
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I can't help but be full of me. I only have me with me all the time. Freaking schizophrenics are soooo lucky!
If I was a schitzo, I would want my other half to be a hot chick! With big bazoongas! And be a lesbian!
WhooooooHooooo!
RTR
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Jam...Take care and hopefully your back one day...I myself am really debating for the first time in 3+ years if I should leave the game...screw all the tools who say "c ya!....we dont care"...there a bunch of ***'s
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Cya Jam
You'll be back....lol
Actually It's probably smart to stay low and out of the firestorm till the natives settle down :)
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I was amazed to see a prefab mission a few nights back with literally three dozen LA7s and several formations of low alt dive bombing lancs (that ended up suiciding the field). These mega squad guys were ruining the game, turning it into a joke.
Obviously HTC saw it happening too.
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Originally posted by Shifty
You know I never realized there were 90 people squads WTF for?:huh
Don't give me that community crap ethier. Sheesh go get a compound in Waco.
Thats it Oldman with squads that size I have to remove the Gunfighters from my list of super powers. Let me know when you get to 70.;)
Actually, we have 30 on the roster. :)
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
hornet please "give it some time" so you can truly comprehend what those phrases mean...
other old airwarriors are around who can tell you what semi empty arenas provide as entertainment...
but no worries..you see we loved that too..we didnt know better...so most will adapt to this as well!!!
the game just went arcade on me..thats cool..i need arcade in my life too..but for those who enjoyed the tension of the strat portion...it just reverted 10 years.
I AM glad to hear "hurri dweebs" and "190 alt monkeys" terms showing up in the wonderful early war arena already...now that there is no la7 to bash...the next best non slow turnfiter insults will have to adapt to the plane set....makes me warm inside :rolleyes:
I have some squadmates that flew some Air Warrior I'll ask them about their experience there...I dont see how splitting out the plane types would make AH arcadish, as far as I know the flight model didn't change at all.
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Originally posted by Golfer
teach your CO how to use the squadron MOTD function.
Say "hey..today we'll be in XYZ arena" or use the magical invention called email.
ZOMG E-MAIL!!!! See Vipersan you learn something new every day. :D
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Hiya Rey. :)
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Originally posted by Shifty
Sheesh go get a compound in Waco.
:lol
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
Wow with staff like oldman, i wonder why the AvA sucked.
Good luck developing a personality that will attract people bud!
Hey can you get HiTech to forcefeed your next failed venture down guys throats that were actually having fun? (just not your way):lol
Ya know Falconwing, I've seen folks misjudge people before, but you just missed by a million miles when it comes to oldman. One of the classiest folks you'll ever meet in this game or elsewhere.
That he can keep things in perspective is the key here. You guys seem to be about to burst a blood vessel over a game.
You've given it what, a day, and now you've passed judgement? The reactions of some folks here are like drug addicts who lost their supply. It's near panic and frankly it's sad to see.
More to life then AH and frankly there is nothing, i repeat nothing worth getting that worked up about in a game.
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Originally posted by TexInVa
YOU are a paying subscriber. If you don't like the product, stop paying for it.
Simple.
You come over as a Marketing natural. I'm always on the lookout for rare talent, I'm trying to run down one of my Companies and was wondering if you would be available on a 1099 basis ?
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Originally posted by moneyguy
sweeet, now i can get into the early war arena!! :D
:lol
Best
Community
EVAR
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Damn it, now my fingers are trembling, too. This whole experience has been overly traumatic. I'll miss you guys.
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Originally posted by viper215
Dont listen to the tools who are full of themselves.
Wow. Pot, meet Kettle.
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Do I know you? Its ok if you leave, but no need to post a suicide note here.
Now that leaves what, like 2 AH'ers from IL now? SWEET.
I guess im the 2nd Ah'er from IL :)
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Originally posted by Meatwad
I guess im the 2nd Ah'er from IL :)
add in Chi and you have the triangle of Ill evil ;)
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No sir i dont like the new changes in the arena format . It could be me set in the old ways. So far iv seen nothing postive about this move. There needs to be some way to communication between arenas. It is fracturing squads and community already. there are four rooms, one everybody hordes to because this is were the action is, the others are mostly empty, also the teams are to uneven in these small rooms. As for the plane selection i enjoyed the range of different planes and vehicles. I think it would have been better to have a faster server and some new maps, maybe even with actual WW II senerio. We will wait and see how it goes.
But this is just my opinion it doesnt matter.:(
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I lived in Edwardsville IL and went to SIUE. Thankfully, I dont live there anymore and came back home to Florida. :)
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Originally posted by jam934
To all in this game just wanted to say I have had a blast butt with the new changes its just lost somthing. It's been 2.5 years for me made lots of friends had good times good fights and some bad ones any hoo Jam934 :aok
by jam
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Wow, holy multiple whine threads Batman!
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might wanna read the 1st stikyed post by pyro
hers a hint: the topic has : DO NOT MAKE NEW THREADS ON THIS TOPIC!!!
or something to that effect
linky~~>http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187226
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Still waiting for the real explaination!
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Originally posted by 999000
Still waiting for the real explaination!
its a CONSPIRACY!!!
btw skuzzt was the 3rd gunman on the grassy knoll!!
1 last thing you pay a subscription....that doesnt enttile you to a explanation of anything HTC does. its a company and this is a bussiness decision as much as it is one to improve gameplay. as a company that is privatly owned and operated they dont have to give anyone a explanation of why they do anything.
Your demanding of one isnt going to get you one. Honestly i dont know of any private company that would explane any decision they make to someone who doesnt work for them in an official capacity.
just out of curiosity, why do you think they OWE you an explanation?
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
just out of curiosity, why do you think they OWE you an explanation?
One question, gives such a solid ANSWER. <> WC
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May I start a rumour ? Or take a guess at something
I feel this "new" set up has been rushed. Why would anyone piss off it's customers without any carrots to hold them here ?
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury let us look at some facts..... No new down load ! No new planes ! No new inter arena squad channel ! Just a promise of "we'll get around to it" The hall marks of a rush job.
AH 2 now ressembles a mish mash of other games we have played and left.
Now let us look at the defendants statement above BUT note these 4 very simple words "an influx of players".
I put it to you the Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury the HTC is in the process of buying out another sim. and is making our new targets err team mates feel more at home with this type of arena set up.
Guilty or Not Guilty HTC how do you plead ? :rofl
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Originally posted by LYNX
I put it to you the Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury the HTC is in the process of buying out another sim. and is making our new targets err team mates feel more at home with this type of arena set up.
Guilty or Not Guilty HTC how do you plead ? :rofl
Naaa... I propose to the jury that HT got tired of seeing the perk this plane, perk that one, he shot me down, to many folks here to many folks there, he stole my kill and he stole my canoli and get back here thats nacho cheese that and HT looked around to his cohorts in crime and said "Them folks want something to whine about, then I'll give them somewthing to whine about!"
And on the seventh day he said "Make it so Number One" and so we have what we have here, a failure to communicate. He dont like it any more than we do. And the grass was greener......
Cheers !
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
Wow with staff like oldman, i wonder why the AvA sucked.
Good luck developing a personality that will attract people bud!
Hey can you get HiTech to forcefeed your next failed venture down guys throats that were actually having fun? (just not your way):lol
it is my opinion that Oldman not only has a fully funtioning personality, but better yet a sense of homour and some watermelon hot dogfighting skills.
and my opinon is always right.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
You've given it what, a day, and now you've passed judgement? The reactions of some folks here are like drug addicts who lost their supply. It's near panic and frankly it's sad to see.
Well, I think it's borderline hysteria... But they should not panic, I saw a mob milkrunning empty bases in the mid-war arena tonight...Maybe 20 to 25 of them (out of 35 total in their country)... So there's still plenty of opportunity to kill sheds, puff out chests and declare themselves Sierra Hotel pilots.
I have known oldman for about 5 years... A nicer, better mannered player cannot be found. Falconwing would go a long way by using oldman as a model of how to conduct oneself, rather than ragging on a guy universally liked.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Grits
Hiya Rey. :)
ok, enough is enough, tell me who rey really is! hes in my squad and now i think he is someone we all know quite well.
or is he just plain rey?
so confused.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I was amazed to see a prefab mission a few nights back with literally three dozen LA7s and several formations of low alt dive bombing lancs (that ended up suiciding the field). These mega squad guys were ruining the game, turning it into a joke.
Yeah I remember reading in my WWII history books that real bombing strikes rarely had more than 6 planes in them.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
Wow with staff like oldman, i wonder why the AvA sucked.
Good luck developing a personality that will attract people bud!
Hey can you get HiTech to forcefeed your next failed venture down guys throats that were actually having fun? (just not your way)
Wow nice personal attack!! yeah thats gonna help:aok
wow what moronic suggestions...
i guess all of you whiners fly during the same 2 hours??...well our squad is 24/7...shall i go ot he computer every hour to see hwere we are at any given time??
hmmmm...or maybe send hourly emails to let people know..lmao
dont sweat it gurls...as i have already said..this change favors large squads..i am actually not in favor of it because i enjoy the competition...but when BoPs make up 1/5 the population of early war I hope you dont whine too hard...you had ample warning!
oh and get ready for the problems we had with Air Warrior....20k planes and people nonengaging for long periods of time....milkrunning...flying 1/2 hour to find a fight and then the guy running into his ack...gluck deacking with your early war planes gun...long periods of time whe arenas were completely dead./QUOTE]
wow hers another !! on top of the fact that oldman, hornet and others are right, whe have or had these issues already in the old MA
hornet please "give it some time" so you can truly comprehend what those phrases mean...
other old airwarriors are around who can tell you what semi empty arenas provide as entertainment...
but no worries..you see we loved that too..we didnt know better...so most will adapt to this as well!!!
the game just went arcade on me..thats cool..i need arcade in my life too..but for those who enjoyed the tension of the strat portion...it just reverted 10 years.
I AM glad to hear "hurri dweebs" and "190 alt monkeys" terms showing up in the wonderful early war arena already...now that there is no la7 to bash...the next best non slow turnfiter insults will have to adapt to the plane set....makes me warm inside
Gotta be honest here. HT and crews decisions and what they "do" to the game are only half of the equation. Its also up to us as part of the community to make something out of this game. This is why HT has a loyal following, WE add to the game. so instead of being negative, and bashing every single friggin change how about making an effort by being proactive and getting ppl together thru emails, phone, fax whatever and getting folks to meetup in certain arena's and as a group do what ya'll enjoy to do?
so may ppl complaining and bashing the changes, attcking each other, its easier i guess than to make an effort and be a part of the process to make the game better for all instead of getting what you want and they you want it!! the ppl like this that are saying they are leaving....dont let the door hit ya....:furious
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
its a CONSPIRACY!!!
btw skuzzt was the 3rd gunman on the grassy knoll!!
1 last thing you pay a subscription....that doesnt enttile you to a explanation of anything HTC does. its a company and this is a bussiness decision as much as it is one to improve gameplay. as a company that is privatly owned and operated they dont have to give anyone a explanation of why they do anything.
Your demanding of one isnt going to get you one. Honestly i dont know of any private company that would explane any decision they make to someone who doesnt work for them in an official capacity.
just out of curiosity, why do you think they OWE you an explanation?
You work for HT ?
I'm a partner (with 3 0thers) in 4 different private Companies that done 97M this year to date, any changes that I do, I always explain to my customers, mind you, there only such bodies as the Federal govt, Lockheed Martin and a few States here and there.
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Just for the record
Bat Rey isn't me coz I'm Spartacus
With ref to the arena changes I can only speak for me and I agree everyone is entitled to an opinion, I like it so far , on wednesday night I had a fun time in EWA and tonight hard fights with good and friendly competition between rivals in MWA.
Viper I can understand what your saying about Squads and maybe some will need restructuring to work around this but please give it time before making a decision that you may possibly regret later. I'm not trying to belittle your opinion or any other person here, if you decide it isn't for you then I'm sure that is really what is best for you but maybe it will just require an open mind and possibly a more structured organisation for the present Squads.
Maybe an idea would be for the rosters for each arena to be visible from the log in screen so that you can see were you squadmates are, I don't know and I am far from the right person to be coming up with sensible ideas.
Anyway I think I will be drifting between EWA and MWA so far these have provided me with what I think "I" have been missing and now back to our regular scheduled programs.
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Originally posted by Hawco
You work for HT ?I'm a partner (with 3 0thers) in 4 different private Companies that done 97M this year to date, any changes that I do, I always explain to my customers, mind you, there only such bodies as the Federal govt, Lockheed Martin and a few States here and there.
I can neither confirm nor deny this.
2 words for ya tho: plausible deniablity
EDIT: well since you decided to edit AFTER i posted allow me to respond.
The "customers" you listed are very different from what we have here. i know cause i used to work at lockheed for SBC and did some govt work.
Most stuff especially with the govt as a customer is contract based not always but most. since they and in tern lockheed ussually would require MUCH more info well ahead of any changes because the contracts ussually stipulate it. Also tax payers fund the govt and to a larg extent lockheed, we are like shareholders so to speak so yeah your company would have to answer to your particular customers about any sweeping changes. Its the nature of your particular customer base. Mainly because tho you are private the govt and lockheed are not and even if your not under contract Govt oversite commitees would still require it....its the nature of you customer. If you didnt they wouldnt be your customer. And im sure that it was well understood before they ever became your customer.
now HTC is all private. We are merely subscribers.
if you subscribed to Maxim and they changed something like replacing hometown hotties with articles on how to pick up really hot chicks outt your league, and you called em up DEMANDING to know why, do you really think they were obligatoed to tell you?
What if its a sekrit reason? having to do a special project they they didnt want the competition to know about yet? ya know proprietory? kinda like HT's source code? Or maybe they changed it to guage by what works and what doesnt by how many are sold at newsstands ?
Fact is its a corporate bussness decision that they dont HAVe to explain to the subscribers for reasons that arent any of our bussiness. more than likely tho HT or pyro will
I will tell ya this, THEY ARE IN BED ASLEEP!!! they question wasnt raised till well after HTC was closed!! so now ppl are bashing them with the whole "they wont answer a simple question" thing when in reality they havent even been given a chance. till 8am tomarrow morning.
What gets me is either the ppl making this goofy accusation either KNow this and are just stirring up hate and discontent or so selfish to get what THEY want they never bothered to consider it....
either way the BBs tonight has been WAY to much fun that i havent been able to do much flying lol even with 2 puters
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Ya know Falconwing ....
Hell, Tiff ..... do you really expect to get this across?
Well .. guess it could happen.
Pigs can fly!
I'd just say "get over it or sumpin." ;)
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Now the La-7's have no one to HO-N-GO?
Spit 16's run out of targets?
I think it's an awesome idea, now if HTC will just turn off the kill message it will be truly fun fun fun!!!!!!!1
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Go to another arena when the one you want to be in is full.....hmmmmmm.....reminds me of Air Warrior. Did I REALLY want to be in WWI planes? Limits on arena size punish large squads. Since Shillelalagh is lucky to have 3 on at the same time it won't hurt us. Now what are the LTARS going to do????????
-MI-
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Falcnwing, I never had any real trouble with you in the past, but now you're just acting like a complete and total *******.
Oldman doesn't make the AvA suck, but you and your ilk definitely made the MA suck. Cancel your account, tell your whiny squadmates who've also melted down to do the same, and all of you just go the hell away already.
Bat, I could tell you, but I don't think you really want to know who Rey is. ;)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Falcnwing, I never had any real trouble with you in the past, but now you're just acting like a complete and total *******.
Oldman doesn't make the AvA suck, but you and your ilk definitely made the MA suck. Cancel your account, tell your whiny squadmates who've also melted down to do the same, and all of you just go the hell away already.
Bat, I could tell you, but I don't think you really want to know who Rey is. ;)
well put hubs :aok
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Originally posted by 999000
Still waiting for the real explaination!
HT did give an explanation as to why he did this in his Stickies. Did only a few of us read his original posts?
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Originally posted by viper215
Ok its the second day of this "update to make the game better" and it is SO STUPID im sick of this haveing to go to all arenas to find my squadies...yea yea were makeing arena to arena comms thats not going to help on squad night when all 90 of my squadies granted 50 of em want to fly want to get into an arena thats full and then they cant fly with the rest of their squad....yaya fly in a different arena why not just spilit the squad in hall?
Im giveing this stupid "new ah" a week 2 at most if this is not changed I quit.
you can whine and cry all you want but nothing will change thier mind.
I love the new arenas well all but for numbers but they said they would up them 100 or so.
About your squad mates we dont need 90 hotards flying around so split up.
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
HT did give an explanation as to why he did this in his Stickies. Did only a few of us read his original posts?
yup, if HT and crew post anything that isnt what certain non-sticky readers want.....then they dont read, ignor it, suddenly forget what they read or most likely throw the ussual hissy fit make their demands , threaten to quite ect since it isnt what they want.....sorry got a lil dizzy writing that all down....
basicaly some didnt hear what they wanted to hear soooo we get what is going on now....pandemonium
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Bat, I could tell you, but I don't think you really want to know who Rey is. ;)
no really, go ahead, its not like i'd care even if it was morpheus, hitech, or osama.
im curious, not that bothered.
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I Know its a pre-emptive April fools joke
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Falcnwing, I never had any real trouble with you in the past, but now you're just acting like a complete and total *******.
Oldman doesn't make the AvA suck, but you and your ilk definitely made the MA suck. Cancel your account, tell your whiny squadmates who've also melted down to do the same, and all of you just go the hell away already.
Now now Hub this is not totally fair.. There are several BOP's that don't mind the change that much but others hate it just like the rest of the AH comunity, it's just that we are large enough that we are a sort of community in our selvs.
My personal opinion is that there has to be some solution to this without breaking up our squad. We love flying togeather.
Oh and you guys that want to make out like large squads were the problem I don't think that quite right. We usually have a few people on during any given day but usually 10 to 15 maybe, or less depending on the time of day..
We would or would not work togeather, it was our choice and alot of the time it was a couple here and a few there, so no big deal.
The only time we had large #'s was monday night for squad night and usually got around 50 guys togeather.. It was fun. We had the #'s to take bases quickly, to sneek them from the NME or just to engage a large group of fighters for a fun fighter sweep to knock them off of our base and defend the mother land. :)
BOPS never intentionally tried to ruin anyones fun in particular, we were just playing the game with enough peolpe 1 night a week to get what ever job we wanted to do done. This would seem similar to rooks on, what was it sunday nights when they would be rolling.
I don't see HTC changing this format any time soon and yes it is hard to fit a squad the size of ours into this format but I think it could be done with some thought.. It's still early to really figure it all out but we can adapt I know it.
Viper I would really hate to see you go, I really value you as a squad mate and a friend even though we've never met. I say just wait a bit... Tonight I got out of the early war arena and there were almost an even 30 of each country in the mid war arena and it was good. Though we could use a few more in there :D. Nice even fights with a good chunk of the plane set. Heck I even had a good fight in a KI-61 VS a P51B, 2 spits and a 109.. First time I've benn ganged and really didn't mind so bad, it wasn't all LA-7's and spit-16's lol...
Bottom line, give it time we have a good squad and I think we can figure something out.
all see you tomorrow somewhere.
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Originally posted by Hawco
You come over as a Marketing natural. I'm always on the lookout for rare talent, I'm trying to run down one of my Companies and was wondering if you would be available on a 1099 basis ?
No marketing experience, sorry. But I do have lots of experience has a consumer, and I know that if I don't like a service provided or I think I'm paying too much for the said service, I can stop paying and end my service. It's consumer rights and there is an alternative.
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There is no enjoyment in the game any more.
If the arenas stay in this new format. I just will not renew my subscription.
This may be a good business move for HiTech in the future. He may get more enjoyment out of it in the future with higher revenues.
But this is really crappy for the subscribers & there is no enjoyment in it for us.
HiTech, what the H**L were you THINKING, DRINKING or SMOKING
I won't be suprise if you try to find some reason to remove my post. I am sure you will.
Thanks,
SysProbe
a.k.a Dr0pSHIP
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Originally posted by SysProbe
I won't be suprise if you try to find some reason to remove my post. I am sure you will.
How about "use this thread, do not open duplicates".
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sad to see you leave sys, salute for all the battles we've fought with and against each other!
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Hey - my reaction was the same... "It stinks". That said, I always give something the benefit of the doubt, as I will here.
For starters, the Late War arena and the former format are indistinguishable. Play there.
Second, my squad has a number of guys who love the early war stuff. They have a place to revel in it now, flying a P40B and not finding 25 LA-7s to fight.
What downside do I believe I, personally, will see? My squad will fragment. I won't be able to keep us all together as the early war guy separate from the late war guys. That would be a shame.
However, squads are somewhat like sports teams, the rosters change, but the team remains the same. The core will remain together, as we have for years.
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So I opened my own
Let HiTech move it
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Why give the Special Events arena a 500 User Access and limitt the Main Arena to 200 or 250
Where do I find people to fight.
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The feeling is mutual.
It has always been a pleasure flying with you also
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Originally posted by Grits
Actually, we have 30 on the roster. :)
30 is a good sized squad, still that's not quite a third of one of these megasquads.
The squad I'm in would be like Luxemburg taking on the old USSR if we ran into one of these mega squads.
:rofl
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Well I've been here ever since Beta (the first one) and I've never seen HTC EVER roll back to what was before. EVER!
They may make adjustments, tweak, add tools & things to make communication easier. But I am willing to bet the farm they will NEVER go back to a single main again.
So, this is it, get used to it!!
Learn to look for that silver lining!
Hub, Well said sir
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
no really, go ahead, its not like i'd care even if it was morpheus, hitech, or osama.
Dont sweat it Bat, it is not Morph its just a guy we know, no big deal.
Originally posted by Ghosth
They may make adjustments, tweak, add tools & things to make communication easier. But I am willing to bet the farm they will NEVER go back to a single main again.
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Ghosth is correct. Those of you waiting for it to go back as it was have a long wait.
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seems like HT got rid of the La-7 and spit-16 whines.
sounds like he weeded out the cherry pickers and horde flyers as well.
You split the Main Arena up HT, now how about a GV arena?
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
I can neither confirm nor deny this.
2 words for ya tho: plausible deniablity
EDIT: well since you decided to edit AFTER i posted allow me to respond.
The "customers" you listed are very different from what we have here. i know cause i used to work at lockheed for SBC and did some govt work.
Most stuff especially with the govt as a customer is contract based not always but most. since they and in tern lockheed ussually would require MUCH more info well ahead of any changes because the contracts ussually stipulate it. Also tax payers fund the govt and to a larg extent lockheed, we are like shareholders so to speak so yeah your company would have to answer to your particular customers about any sweeping changes. Its the nature of your particular customer base. Mainly because tho you are private the govt and lockheed are not and even if your not under contract Govt oversite commitees would still require it....its the nature of you customer. If you didnt they wouldnt be your customer. And im sure that it was well understood before they ever became your customer.
now HTC is all private. We are merely subscribers.
if you subscribed to Maxim and they changed something like replacing hometown hotties with articles on how to pick up really hot chicks outt your league, and you called em up DEMANDING to know why, do you really think they were obligatoed to tell you?
What if its a sekrit reason? having to do a special project they they didnt want the competition to know about yet? ya know proprietory? kinda like HT's source code? Or maybe they changed it to guage by what works and what doesnt by how many are sold at newsstands ?
Fact is its a corporate bussness decision that they dont HAVe to explain to the subscribers for reasons that arent any of our bussiness. more than likely tho HT or pyro will
I will tell ya this, THEY ARE IN BED ASLEEP!!! they question wasnt raised till well after HTC was closed!! so now ppl are bashing them with the whole "they wont answer a simple question" thing when in reality they havent even been given a chance. till 8am tomarrow morning.
What gets me is either the ppl making this goofy accusation either KNow this and are just stirring up hate and discontent or so selfish to get what THEY want they never bothered to consider it....
either way the BBs tonight has been WAY to much fun that i havent been able to do much flying lol even with 2 puters
The more I reads this the less I understand.
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just make dam sure you dont go to the mid-arena. its absolutely horrible and no fun. dont even go there to check it out. dont waste your time. theres nothing there at all. trust me. do not go to the mid-arena.you'll definitely have a better time having deep discussions with your life partner or watching teevee.do not go to the mid-arena.
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I think we ought to get cav58 to run a poll....
"Who would you rather see leave AH."
(1) Viper and all his mouse weilding whorde
(2) the nicest guy in AH... Oldman.
Olman allways salutes the guys who shoot him down or who he shoots down.... and... he laughs at my jokes.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Here's a cheesewheel!
ROTFLMAO :rofl
I vote this post of the week.
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"First time I've benn ganged and really didn't mind so bad,"
ZOMG No offense guy but wtf? my whole time here has been spent dodgin gangers... Hopefully some reflection is order....when u risk your cartoon airplane the reward of flying away in a one vs 4 is incomparable to straffing the last field ack or capturing the field while 50 plus squaddys vulch....come to the lighttttttttt :) me thinks the skill level of AH will up dramatically, well hopes anyway
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You know what is funny, you guys ripped the furballers when they were vocal about losing the furballing aspect of the game and you all told them to shut up, quit whinning and deal with it. And a lot of them stuck it out instead of quitting.
Well as far as I can tell, you guys can still take bases and win the war.
HTC is realistic, they have seen the degration of the MA over the last couple of years due to the large mass of people playing and they know it will only get worse as they get more successful. They were smart to change now, wait you will see these rooms will start to fill and more people will come play the game, just like the beggining I would imagine.
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Originally posted by Hawco
The more I reads this the less I understand.
well i dont know what to tell ya then.
some get it ssome dont
basically the bussiness you described is totally different with a different cust base than HTC
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
hornet please "give it some time" so you can truly comprehend what those phrases mean...
other old airwarriors are around who can tell you what semi empty arenas provide as entertainment...
but no worries..you see we loved that too..we didnt know better...so most will adapt to this as well!!!
the game just went arcade on me..thats cool..i need arcade in my life too..but for those who enjoyed the tension of the strat portion...it just reverted 10 years.
I AM glad to hear "hurri dweebs" and "190 alt monkeys" terms showing up in the wonderful early war arena already...now that there is no la7 to bash...the next best non slow turnfiter insults will have to adapt to the plane set....makes me warm inside :rolleyes:
Hmm... a La7 guy refers to changes as 'arcade'ish:rofl
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Originally posted by Triumph
Ok...this multi-arena thing os ok but I think they should have left the main arena as it was. I can't find the guys in my squad. I've got to search 5 arenas every 15 min and try to round them up. I cought one guy taking bases in the arena with 6 people in it, another bombing deserted strat-targets, and another HO-ing everything in sight with a HURRI-2C in the early arena.
Bring back the main arena...and keep the extra arenas for the 2% that actually want them.
If an arena is full...I cant even get in to round up the guys in my squad.
Am I the only one that feels this way? :confused:
I think Pyros answer was intelligent and certainly justifable. Actually I agree with HTC concerning the herding aspect and the overcrowding of just one arena......Sorry
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Originally posted by TalonX
Hey - my reaction was the same... "It stinks". That said, I always give something the benefit of the doubt, as I will here.
For starters, the Late War arena and the former format are indistinguishable. Play there.
Second, my squad has a number of guys who love the early war stuff. They have a place to revel in it now, flying a P40B and not finding 25 LA-7s to fight.
What downside do I believe I, personally, will see? My squad will fragment. I won't be able to keep us all together as the early war guy separate from the late war guys. That would be a shame.
However, squads are somewhat like sports teams, the rosters change, but the team remains the same. The core will remain together, as we have for years.
TalonX...In truth there would have never been a mix of LA7s and P40s etc in the same squad now would there ( GRIN )
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Originally posted by Grits
Actually, we have 30 on the roster. :)
Besides with a 90 person squad ya got mechanics, cooks, guys to sweep and swab the deck.......the list is endles ( G )
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190 in EW, 57 in MW, 270ish in LW1/2.
500 people on, with nearly half in an arena that only 2% want. Ain't that odd?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Falcnwing, I never had any real trouble with you in the past, but now you're just acting like a complete and total *******.
Oldman doesn't make the AvA suck, but you and your ilk definitely made the MA suck. Cancel your account, tell your whiny squadmates who've also melted down to do the same, and all of you just go the hell away already.
Falcnwing's shot at Oldman was definitely out of line. Then again, that is the first time I remember seeing Oldman take a cheap shot at anyone. I honestly don't understand all the gloating about the fact that some people's enjoyment of the game has been negatively impacted. Can't you all be happy that your enjoyment will increase without the childish teasing of those who believe this was a bad idea?
Originally posted by MIShill
Go to another arena when the one you want to be in is full.....hmmmmmm.....reminds me of Air Warrior. Did I REALLY want to be in WWI planes? Limits on arena size punish large squads. Since Shillelalagh is lucky to have 3 on at the same time it won't hurt us. Now what are the LTARS going to do????????
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No doubt this "punishes" large squads - at least so far. Things may level out over time. I've tried to explain before to Lazs and others why their "furball" was not the game for me 100% of the time. A big part of that explanation is that I enjoy teamwork and cooperation with others. To me, that is the easiest way to explain why large squads exist. If you have a weird schedule and can't always be on at certain times, large squads are bound to have somebody in your squad online when you can show up. So you can enjoy the teamwork aspect at any time. I suspect that is why the BOPs are 90+ members.
And I admit that I initially hit the panic button myself. My first view on Wednesday was of a packed arena and three nearly empty ones. So, with the number limits so low, a large squad either can't get all into the same arena for the teamwork we enjoy, or we end up dominating the numbers in a nearly empty arena with few if any willing to oppose. So, I saw it as making hording worse, not better. And it did make matters worse since HTC had not at that time adjusted ENY to kick in with less than 200 players.
Small arenas will have difficulty handling large squads. I think everyone recognizes that. Some might break up. It remains to be seen if that was part of HTCs thinking, or even entered his thinking at all. I susbect the latter.
As for the LTARs, for now the plan is to go with the flow as much as possible. We will play our game like we always have, and see what shakes out -- and will adjust as necessary to keep it fun.
See some of you in the skies :aok
-- sadly, not as many of you as I saw last week.
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So much for no new post on the new arena subject.
apparently they got tired of closing threads.
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
Wow with staff like oldman, i wonder why the AvA sucked.
Good luck developing a personality that will attract people bud!
Hey can you get HiTech to forcefeed your next failed venture down guys throats that were actually having fun? (just not your way):lol
Man, what a good judge of character you are. About time someone stepped up and put the Oldman in his place.:aok
May I suggest Valium for your "trembles"? Just seek help before hanging yourself from the doorknob, please.
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Originally posted by E25280
Then again, that is the first time I remember seeing Oldman take a cheap shot at anyone.
True. I apologize for that. Didn't think that anything I read in here would ever push me over the edge, but the instant, intense and repeated wailing drama did. My response was unpleasant; that's not like me, and I regret it. Sorry for adding to the problem rather than trying to smooth it over.
- oldman
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I've not been online for almost a couple of weeks so the three arena sort of caught me by suprise. I have no idea if this arrangement will suit me but things that came to mind were;
At least I can fly an early war aircraft without being mobbed by those using the later more powerfull versions. I'm simply not good enough to risk this often in the previous setup.
The downside could be a killer for me. Gameplay. At the beginning of the year I was going to pack it in and thought I would just try a flight or two before closing my account. But, I found the numbers playing were up, the arena was not overlarge and so I could just up, have a few flights and some fun before hitting the sack! - This is the aspect of Aches High that suits my lifestyle. I won't join squads because I can no longer give them the committment a good squad needs.
In my time I was in Kraits and later Firebirds 56th. Virtually all the pilots have left Aces High for one reason or another, but its all about change or the lack of it.
Now I don't mind the fact that sometimes we have huge arenas. As long as there is a hot spot or two to have some fun no problem. But if I log on and spend half an hour just looking for a fight it won't work for me, thats why I nearly quit the first time.
No, I won't quit just because it has changed. I will give it a go to see how it works out in practice. Its to Hichtechs credit that they do change things and try to make it better.
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Much ado about nothing.
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Originally posted by SLED
So much for no new post on the new arena subject.
apparently they got tired of closing threads.
...ya I think HTC just don't bother reading all these extra posts :noid