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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Guppy35 on September 14, 2006, 11:10:39 PM
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Had some great fights in there tonite. Had a bad bout of ENY for a short time where Knits couldn't up anything besides a Stuka or a C47 but it didn't last.
I can't remember the last time I actually just chatted with a guy on the other team and decided to meet at a given alt and go at it. Bombing and landgrab was minimal and the fights were much fun.
Also kinda nice to just say "80th is between 43-44 and looking to get shot" and having guys show up just to have at it. I died a lot, but it was good fun actually fighting folks in the air.
Kinda nice to not have guys blowing through in LAs and 16s during every fight. Good furballs and not a lot of alt monkeying either.
If we do it right, mid-war could be a really good place to hang out and have at it.
I will confess that my effort to carpet the arena in 38G parts is well under way however :)
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guppy id just like to say thank you
thank you for changing the maps
thank you for changing the arena's
really wanna thank you for upping peee38g's so the perk price drops faster :aok
and thank you for just being you:aok
and a really really big thanks for taking the time to start threads that are positive and humorus in this time of crybaby i want what i want now negative, i quit, i hate everybody ....change!!
hope i dint leave any groups out is so.....please start a thread about it so that we can keep all the posts of a negative nature towards your truley together!!
saterday i will pick the best one and will meet that person ingame in a arena of his/her choice for a chance for said person to "take me out" if they win they will get all my precious perkies and bragging rights!!:O :aok :noid
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That was the most fun I have had in a real long time, the fights that got to take place over water were a blast. I think even Johnny had fun despite what he was saying !!
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Originally posted by xbrit
I think even Johnny had fun despite what he was saying !!
:lol
Was good fun.
:)
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Have to agree, I think the Mid War arena could be the best one with the Early War an extremely close 2nd. (actually there probably even in my eyes)Just need more players in the MW arena, when I was in there, it only had about 30 per side atwhat is prime time to me around 8 - 9pm PST. Hopefully in time it will change. As for the LW arena the LALA and 16 dweebs can have it. I love not having to see 90% LALA's and 16's buzzing around :) fights are a lot better IMO now. :D
Ofcourse to me the ideal situation would be a RPS with 1 week EW, then MW, then LW and final week of the camp ALL planes. Have 2 arenas that hold about 350 - 400. This way it lowers the arena which HT wants, but there big enough for most squads to have there guys together most of the time.
Doubt there is a perfect solution to make everyone happy, what ever happens I will adapt. (even tho my idea is the perfect one :rolleyes: )
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MW definitly has the best plane setup.
All major models have at least one variant so Corsair, hellcat, 109, 190, P38, P47, P51, Spit, ki, zeke and bomber fans can have their rides. Fighters are limited in their ordnance carrying capacity and so specialized attack planes are still viable and needed.
I hope we see more people in there.
Also, EW is just plain slow dogfighting fun :)
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Mid-war arena reminds me of AW4W in its twilight years where only 40 or so would be on. It made for some really good 1v1 fights and furballs without getting out of hand. Mid-war arena has that same quality to it now and there is a plane that appeals to most types.
ack-ack
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Awesome job Guppy!
Mid war rocks, very good plane matchups, with some good fights available.
Just need to set the arena cap at 300.
Set the ENY so if any one team goes over 125 they have no troops.
Let em fly whatever they like, but if they have a horde they can't capture anything.
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Yes mid war really could be great fun.. Last night I was in my KI-61 VS 4 other planes and while I wasn't able to get a kill with those odds I was able to stay alive much longer than I used to in the old MA... Helps when people don't get to fly the uber rides all the freekin time. :)
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Was great fun last night. I really think that the mid war has the best match ups available, and I think once the newness of the early war arena wears off some will go back to late war and some will drift into the mid war.
Helm and I plan on making mid war our home now. Hope to see more of you guys up and perky for a fight.
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HAd fun there too, though I didnt have the patience to hang through the ENY troubles and jumpded to the Early War arena for my Hurri I fix.
I find that though I had developed into a pretty competent MA fighter, with smaller crowds I've begun to display a shocking display of pure stinkiness.
I'm certain, Guppy, that a fair number of those G parts came from my planes....
Loads of fun, looking forward to lots of fun and a good deal of learning!
now I gotta figure out what to do with a 38G against a 205 with E...
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When I first checked the MW, the P-51B wasn't available. Now it is. I like the matchups! Hope we get some more folks into the midwar!
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
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I have to agree MW is fun, plane mach-ups are great, and I can actually survive in a hog-1. Still ran in to an HO dweeb in a 190-a5, but other than that was great fun. was on for like 2.5 hours which is longer than I have stayed online in ages.
Big:aok to HTC.
SIK1
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Im surprised mid war isnt the most popular, since it has all the rides everybody is complaining arent in Early, and no LA-7s to boot. Course, by weeks end who knows...
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Had a blast in Mid last night. Only gripe was CV guns being neutered to buff dorks due to ENY. What's with that?
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ssssssshhhhhhhh!!!!
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Personally I like the MW arena best, the only problem with it being that there isn't usually very many people on, and that can make it difficult to have/find a good fight. The early war arena is fun too, but the main reason I go on there is because that's where everyone else is.
I think the most fun arena was the old MA. It's hard to replace that, although these new arenas are interesting.
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Best arena out of the lot, just get all this c**p about Eny limits fixed and also get the max limit numbers upped a bit in there and it might be worth logging on for.
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I have wanted a mid-War arena for a long time.
I will try blowing the rust off a bit, so those of you in the mid-war arena will have my Mossie to punch holes in and light on fire.
I'll also get to play with my Ki-84 and Spit VIII it looks like.
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ya know
never thought about that mossie i bet its much more useful and fun to use in the midwar arena without all those Speed Demons
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Originally posted by simshell
ya know
never thought about that mossie i bet its much more useful and fun to use in the midwar arena without all those Speed Demons
I fully expect it will be, yes.
:aok
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I agree, the MWA is great fun. I flew an A-20 into a furball and had fun, and landed too! ;)
Even flew a 1v1 against a Ki-61 with the fatboy Havoc.. That guy will think twice about the A-20 next time he sees one. Turning circles on the deck with VD's Ki-84 was great fun... No one expects the A-20 to turn like that.
Was able to fly the SpitVIII the way God intended... a masterful E fighter. Even got up with a Hellcat. Not once did I feel that I was at a performance disadvantage.
Players were chatty and generally polite on 200, cooperating to set up furballs.
Yet, off in the corner of the map a mob of Bish (15 to 20) were milkrunning empty, virtually unguarded bases. Some things will never change, I guess....
One lone Rook tried to defend, but after getting a pilot wound elected to retire... One Bish (one of the biggest whiners about the new changes) ridiculed him for not staying to be cannon fodder for the horde. A fine example of classless behavior. This kind of behavior when hiding behind 15 squadies is lower than pathetic.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Horde.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Horde1.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Somehow we're going to have to set the tone in there and discourage the milkrunning if at all possible.
That, and keeping up the respectful approach on 200 would help with new guys coming in trying to learn the game. If we help them the right way, it can only help the community.
Nothing wrong with making the game fun :)
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Sometimes, milkrunning is the only option, as was the case in the EWA last night for the Knights. The Bish and Rooks were fighting heavily on their front, and maybe 5 of each were defending on their fronts with the Knights. When I first logged on, it wasn't like that, but for some reason, the Rooks just left the Knight front and we barely had any opposition. I flew the sector to see a few reds get ganged by a bunch of greens. Looked at the map for the Bish front, and it looked the same (though with less Bish and Knights.)
Well, milkrunning wasn't the only option. I just ended up getting to bed earlier. :)
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Screw the new guys, we gotta win the war at all costs!
Attention new guys, mission upping for undefended A12. Mission codename: Incompetence
P.S. - Looking forward to another fun Midwar night tonight!
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Same here on the MW. After I flew a lot of P40's in the EW, I found it refreshing to fly the PonyB & the Yak9T, a couple fo rides with a lot more guts. I flew B26's after messing with the Bostons in the EW, very nice. Insano climbed up and nearly knocked out my entire B26 formation in his LA5.
Insano, that was a close exchange. He died twice, but I barely made in back with my last plane deadsticking into a V-base because he drained all my fuel out.:D:eek:
Overall, the numbers were still low, but this time they were enough to have a great time. It is starting to settle out, guys. It could be even better with the number cap increased a bit (hint hint!)
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Widewing,
I tried to defend those bases too, but things just felt "off" and I wasn't doing much.
I have since discovered that my joystick settings in AH have been wiped so that explained why I was having the control issues.
I have other obligations tonight, but I will be back for more mid war action.
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Best arena for me. Best mix of speed, maneoverability and firepower.
Sun always seems to be far enough up in the sky to prevent that "always in the shade" feeling I get in the early war arena. Havent even bothered with the late war arena, Ive seen ten years worth of LA7s and Spit16s in just the past month alone, so Im in no hurry to go there.
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Originally posted by Yeager
Best arena for me. Best mix of speed, maneoverability and firepower.
Sun always seems to be far enough up in the sky to prevent that "always in the shade" feeling I get in the early war arena. Havent even bothered with the late war arena, Ive seen ten years worth of LA7s and Spit16s in just the past month alone, so Im in no hurry to go there.
Kinda funny how every time I saw a Spit last night, I kept waiting for it to be a 16 and it was always a 9. Wondered what was going on with all the 9s til it clicked the 16s weren't in there :)
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Originally posted by simshell
ya know
never thought about that mossie i bet its much more useful and fun to use in the midwar arena without all those Speed Demons
Not to mention it now carries more bombs than the common fighter. F6F-5 carries more but it actually should have been F6F-3. Hopefully, when HTC re-do the hellcat we'll have both models for MW/LW areanas.
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Something screwed up this afternoon. Guys flying F4U4s unperked in midwar arena. LOL yeah that's midwar :)
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MidWar :aok Perfect Blend
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Originally posted by PropNut
MidWar :aok Perfect Blend
THIS ARENA IS EMPTY most of the time. I kept running in to the same dude in the same cartoon at the same spot. Then suddenly some squad logged on and I found myself in a swarm of angry real estate Bees, rather than that 1 dude is was the same 20... the other 3 Knights called BS and bounced.
Then like the Locusts they are, *poof", the real estate Bees vanished having padded their base capture score accordingly.
Alone again with the dude, on rare occasion another Knight randomly cruised by, picked the dude, and kept going in to the abyss of green carpet never to be seen again. Where is the sound pack with cricket noises, tumble weeds rustling and ghost town groans? An echo of your voice saying "Is anyone thereeeeeeeeee....e.e.e"
Most of the bases & towns should be "abandon", the graphics should reflect an apocalyptic like disaster with broken dusty planes, skulls, stray animals and left over "interactive porn" we can view. If there's nobody to twist a stick with, might as well have rub material to cure the boredom.
I challenge HT et al to include only the best porn to help replace the entertainment lost due to empty arenas, because totally tubular your own hand is more fun than listening to some nerd born in a pietri dish brag about how he (and his 29 real estate bees, rule teh skies!!
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Yep, xmarine, that will help. A big tantrum will no doubt change things :)
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Mid war stuff should not be after late 43 or very early 44 IMO..........
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I think the plane set they chose for MW is fine, problem is to many don't want a challenge so they run to the LW arena so they can have there LALA's and 16's.
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F6F and Ki 84 should not be there IMO
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Based on when they were made you may be correct, I don't have a clue about which plane was in service when. I'm more about having a setup were there is really no 1 or 2 uber planes in the set. I don't feel those two planes harm the setup as far as being uber rides and dominate the arena. There decent planes which make for good fights.
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Originally posted by Tilt
F6F and Ki 84 should not be there IMO
Agreed.
- oldman
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F6F-5s were entering squadron service by late May, 1944. Ki-84s began arriving in JAAF squadrons in late April of '44, and were transferred to the PI on or around June of 1944. This puts them very close to the date when the P-51D began reaching the 8th AF (mid June of 1944).
I suspect that the F6F-5 and Ki-84 are included in the mid-war plane set because they are substitutes for the F6F-3 and Ki-44.
I do not see either creating any sort of imbalance, so I can see no harm in their being included until the plane set is filled in. Inasmuch as the F6F-5 is undermodeled in speed (lots of data to support it being a 400+ mph fighter), there's little difference between it and the F6F-3 in the game. In fact, the F6F-3 should climb better, but have a lower rate of roll at high speeds.
As to the Ki-84; it has very narrow speed range where it shines. Most pilots do not understand how to capitalize on its strengths.
My regards,
Widewing
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hehe even I enjoyed it
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Think ill make Mid War my 1st stop for now on.Interesting plane match ups and like one of the other fellaz said theres something for everyone in there.Cya'z up!
"A bandit at your six is better than no bandit at all"
Pipz
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Why is the F4U-4 enabled in the Mid War Arena???
Holy s***
Im assuming thats just a temporary glitch?
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Flew there for a couple hours last night. Heard Guppy was there, all that metal scraping down the runways on his famous landings can be heard across the arena :)
Due to the ENY limiter I was forced to fly a 109E for a few flights, and even tho I had never been in one before I did OK in it, but more importantly I had a blast! Was out numbered a few times, but only 2 or 3 on me, not the massive hordes were you can't defend yourself. Got 2 to aurger and the 3rd one killed me one run, next I shot down 2 and the third got very carefull and I had to dis-engae due to fuel.
Was some fun fights, and neither would have lasted as long in the MA, and both would have ended with me getting cherry picked by 3 La's, a nik, and 4 spit16's :O
Ya at this point ya have to look for a fight, but thats alot better than having up in a horde because they cover 3 sectors.
Long Live the Mid-war Arena!
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Last evening (Friday), I stopped by the MWA at about 10 PM eastern for a little while before heading to the TA. I flew two sorties. Not much, but there was no absence of enemies.
Upon logging in, I went to A62 where I saw several red dots. I found two enemy strafing the field (a SpitVIII and a 190A5). So, I grabbed a field ack and dispatched both (killing the 190 as he tried to vulch TwinBoom). Meanwhile, a Tiger was shooting at the base from the western hill. I turned the field ack on him and forced him to back away into the trees. On our base, a Panzer was firing at the Tiger as well. With that, I took up a P-38G with two 1,000 lb bombs. After taking off, I spotted another GV at the spawn and dispatched it with one bomb. The second bomb was dropped on the Tiger. Rearmed, finished off the Tiger and killed another Panzer.
Received a 200 message telling me that "those were lucky drops." LOL
Low on gas (took only 25% to aid climb rate), I landed, but just minutes before 4 enemy fighters arrived on the deck. Their timing was poor as five of our fighters had taken off and were waiting. All four enemy were quickly killed for no losses.
I'm now up in a SpitVIII, three enemy fighters arrive at high alt. It's just me and another guy, but the enemy (in two P-51s and a 190) will not engage. They make half-hearted runs, but bear off when I turn straight into them. They get cold feet and go home. :rolleyes:
I ask why they refuse to engage and they tell me that they were outnumbered.... This is a new squad, populated with noobs. I offered to take them to the TA and see if we can give them enough basic skills so they have some confidence. They think I'm kidding. I assure them that I'm not kidding, and give them my HTC e-mail if they want to get together for some training. Most of them log off, so I head over to the TA. None show up, so I work with some other guys until about 12:45 AM eastern.
Numbers were low, 26 Bish, 22 Knit and 23 Rook (there was a special event running that bled off a lot of players). However, if you go to where the fights are, there's no lack of fun to be had. Numbers where considerably higher on Thursday, but there was no special event running at the time.
My regards,
Widewing
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Burned up a full tank in a KI84 last night....saw a 110 (the cause of me upping where I did) which proceeded to zoom the field and die by ack (got a proxie kill).
flew around chasing dots, catching none. Saw the 110 coming back, he seemed to have a friend....started after his friend who broke off and headed in opposite direction. Turned and gave chase to the 100 just in time to watch it repeat its earlier performance (I am only assuming it was the same person, as I got no message this time). looked around a bit more and landed.
I really like this arena...just wish more players did too.
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mid-war rocks
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Well, ki84 was removed. Now what the hell am I going to fly?!
I really would rather not fly latewar.
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KI 84 removed? oh man that does it!
ummm...F6F still there? Thats a good fun matchup.
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The Ki-84 fit the MW arena performance wise. Now that it's gone I'm not a happy camper. It has been my favorite plane for over a year. I have no desire to go to the late war arena, but now I have no choice.
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Gave it a try today. Was fun.
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Hrumph.
Fun for murdr, maybe, once landing 9 after fighting the entire rook horde by himself.
(A huge btw!)
But the side imbalance got kinda silly. The rooks totalled 55% of all pilots (that's including Nits plus bish), and they moved like locusts against undefended bases one after another.
I dont have near the skills to face that kind of horde, so I piddled around looking for other fights, mostly against the bish. Hope things even out later.....
But still a good environment, looking to head back
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Originally posted by Simaril
Hrumph.
Fun for murdr, maybe, once landing 9 after fighting the entire rook horde by himself.
(A huge btw!)
But the side imbalance got kinda silly. The rooks totalled 55% of all pilots (that's including Nits plus bish), and they moved like locusts against undefended bases one after another.
I dont have near the skills to face that kind of horde, so I piddled around looking for other fights, mostly against the bish. Hope things even out later.....
But still a good environment, looking to head back
Someone, someday will have to explain the glory, or the fun, in taking undefended bases with overwhelming numbers.
I just don't get it.
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Since when was the F4U4 a mid war plane?
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Mid war is great fun. Just logged out of there and the fights were good, people were giving 6 calls and the numbers weren't far from ballanced.
The only problem there right now is that the F4U-4 somehow got produced 2 years ahead of its time and is now enabled there (with ENY of 30 no less). I'm sure HTC will fix that.
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Originally posted by MOSQ
The Ki-84 fit the MW arena performance wise. Now that it's gone I'm not a happy camper. It has been my favorite plane for over a year. I have no desire to go to the late war arena, but now I have no choice.
Once you learn how to fly the Frank, it pretty well dominates all of the other planes in MW, by quite a large degree. Agreeing that it might have been introduced at the tail-end of the MW period, it's one of those situations where it's better to round up.
- oldman
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Still feels like I have no twisty-rolly ultra lowspeed flaps energy machine fighter in the MW now (if that makes sense). :(
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Still feels like I have no twisty-rolly ultra lowspeed flaps energy machine fighter in the MW now (if that makes sense).
It sure does Engine! I was holding my own in the old MA with the Ki84, and it was a terror in the new MW arena, as it should be. The Frank caused all kinds of excitement when it was introduced. But there are cool F6Fs with great remodelled flaps for dogfighting in the MA, and of course, great flapping P38s. I think it was Widewing who pointed out that the A20 is awesome in MW as well. That plane deserves to be flown more than it is. Otherwise, we may have to agitate for an A26 ;)
Mid war Arena rocks! I love it.
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Originally posted by eh
It sure does Engine! I was holding my own in the old MA with the Ki84, and it was a terror in the new MW arena, as it should be. The Frank caused all kinds of excitement when it was introduced. But there are cool F6Fs with great remodelled flaps for dogfighting in the MA, and of course, great flapping P38s. I think it was Widewing who pointed out that the A20 is awesome in MW as well. That plane deserves to be flown more than it is. Otherwise, we may have to agitate for an A26 ;)
Mid war Arena rocks! I love it.
None of those are twisty-rolly energy freaks like the Ki84! :(
I'm just going to pout and whine and sulk no matter what anyone says. I love my 84! ;)
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Originally posted by Engine
None of those are twisty-rolly energy freaks like the Ki84! :(
I'm just going to pout and whine and sulk no matter what anyone says. I love my 84! ;)
Actually, I think that the Bf 109F-4 is a better "twisty-rolly" dogfighter than the Ki-84, and it gives up very little in the vertical. Even the G-2 can lean all over the Ki-84. The reason for this is that the 109s can get their flaps out at higher speeds, and are more stable at high angles of attack. In contrast, the Ki-84 will snap-spin when pushed as hard. Another positive for both 109s is 10 minutes of uninterrupted WEP.
At high speeds, both types exhibit control stiffness, but the 109s will not shed control surfaces above 450 mph.
Roll rate goes to the Ki-84, but rudder use can boost the 109s to rates that make the difference largely inconsequential.
Give the 109s a try, but practice some in the TA first to learn the limits.
My regards,
Widewing
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Yep, I tried out the mid war last night for a while...I was vulched, cherried, ganged and Ho'ed. Alot of guys flying in at 15k dropping down on the base looking for vulches, lancasters carpet bombing from 3k...seemed just like the old MA without the numbers :rolleyes: