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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Guppy35 on September 15, 2006, 01:29:05 AM
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I haven't laughed this much in over a year. I keep coming back to the board today and reading the posts and just cracking up, and believe me I needed to do some serious laughing.
I'm reminded of my son the first time we took him clothes shopping where he'd have to try things on. He was probably 3. He threw an absolute fit. No matter how you tried to explain it to him, the idea of changing wasn't going to work
I remember how embarrased my wife and I were when someone from the store asked us to leave because he wouldn't quit yelling and screaming.
The boards seem that way today and it makes me laugh :)
Feel free to stir things up anytime.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I haven't laughed this much in over a year. I keep coming back to the board today and reading the posts and just cracking up, and believe me I needed to do some serious laughing.
I'm reminded of my son the first time we took him clothes shopping where he'd have to try things on. He was probably 3. He threw an absolute fit. No matter how you tried to expain it to him, the idea of changing wasn't going to work
I remember how embarrased my wife and I were when someone from the store asked us to leave because he wouldn't quit yelling and screaming.
The boards seem that way today and it makes me laugh :)
Feel free to stir things up anytime.
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LOL nice story guppy :)
tell the truth makes ah look bad cause all the lala tards cant fly thier planes..
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the lala tards can fly their planes all they want. Just now they are only competing against planes that are competative with them.
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See Rule #4
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Originally posted by RacrX
See Rule #4
LOL wtf is crying going to do?! HTC wont change this inless they have to..
JUST MAKES AH LOOK BAD:rolleyes:
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I asked in one of the other threads what all the "this is great crowd, wtg HTC" ...."quit whining"...."comedy gold"crowd liked about it so much. I havent seen a response to it yet...why do you like it? we have all heard why people dont like it...and what the people who like it got to say to them "quit and give me your joystick"...so please, enlighten.
point is, everyone is entitled to their opinion...some like it, some dont...but at least instead of just bashing those whose opinion dont agree with yours, state why you feel the way about it that you do.
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Ya everyone has a right to their opinion, but most of these whining, crying, screaming, pouting, children havn't giving the game a chance to settle down! HT has said they are going to change the perk values, and arena limits once things settle down, so STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ! HT has said they are working on a cross arena comunications setup so big squads can hook up, so STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT !!
Jeez ! Just give it a chance ! There were a ton of people that hated AH2 when it came out for all kinds of reasons, but most got fixed, or people adapted. Its just a game folks !
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lol guppy, great story.
I have only played in the early arena so far and I see no need to move to the others as of yet. while I enjoy the 109K the very thought of the LaHOers keeps me away.
in the early set the Ju88 is the monster that it was, the 202 is very competetive as are the F4F-4, 109E and the P40E.
if I could change one thing it would be to take 190A5 out of the arena and place it in the mid war section where it truly belongs.
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Well I for one love having the chance to fly the La5 without having to worry about 190D9's, Ponys & tempests chasing me down.
Mid war arena suits me fine as long as there are a few people in there.
If there is less than 10 in midwar I just head over to early war & play there.
Either way is fun, different, challenging, and a whole new MA to learn.
(which is why so many people are so unhappy)
Either their flying style depended on picking people lower, & slower, or they can't adapt. HTC & AH is all about change, change happens in jumps, fits & starts. When it happens its go back & learn again, or walk away.
Whining, complaining, and throwing temper tantrums won't change it.
Let things settle down, HT will balance and life will go on. Then decide if you can live here or not.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Either way is fun, different, challenging, and a whole new MA to learn.
(which is why so many people are so unhappy)
Ghost actually makes a pretty good point here. Just like the viewshake for guns, just like the FM changes, just like AH1.99beta, just like ENY, etc etc... whenever there's a change, it's normally pretty substantial, and the whines tend to be epic, because it is new, and someone else likes it, which is more infuriating for the guys who wanted the situation to remain unchanged.
I have to admit, it makes the BBS a lot more fun to read.
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I agree with hubs and Ghosth.
I think the 'bashing' of those who don't agree (and this is certainly not comprehensive in any way) is not so much with the fact of differing opinions, but with the overreactions.
Screeching, whining, insult, demands and threats do NOT fall in the category of 'discussion'. Armchair toughguys berating HTC, and those who disagree with them, are not looking for discussion...just chest-thumping.
There is clearly a minority who are capable of disagreement, and even disappointment, without getting nasty about it with each other.
We have to filter out the babies from both sides of the discussion in order to actually talk about the changes and their impacts.
Like I say, I put a lot squarely in the laps of those who do not appear able to agree to disagree. Calling HTC, HiTech, Pyro, Skuzz or each other names just begs one to dismiss the poster as just another member of the Lollipop Squad.
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Either way is fun, different, challenging, and a whole new MA to learn.
(which is why so many people are so unhappy)
Either their flying style depended on picking people lower, & slower, or they can't adapt. HTC & AH is all about change, change happens in jumps, fits & starts. When it happens its go back & learn again, or walk away.
I heartily agree.
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just give me the data by which this change was determined!
999000
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Originally posted by Baylor
I asked in one of the other threads what all the "this is great crowd, wtg HTC" ...."quit whining"...."comedy gold"crowd liked about it so much. I havent seen a response to it yet...why do you like it? we have all heard why people dont like it...and what the people who like it got to say to them "quit and give me your joystick"...so please, enlighten.
point is, everyone is entitled to their opinion...some like it, some dont...but at least instead of just bashing those whose opinion dont agree with yours, state why you feel the way about it that you do.
I have no problem with the discussion at all. It's the "I'm gonna take my ball and go home", tantrum guys that make me laugh. It just isn't this serious.
This is what I like
-The plane matchups are more even.
-I believe smaller arenas will actually help build the community as each arena develops it's core of players and attitudes
-It allows for a change of pace if you want to bounce to another arena
-It allows the land grab guys to do their thing and the ACM guys to do theirs. I've had more good air to air fights in a day then I'd had in the last month.
Biggest to me is that it gives us a chance to develop the community in each arena. I'm at this point going to spend my time in Mid-war. I'm going to work my tail off to try and set a decent tone in there, hopefully with the help of other folks too so that the competition is good and friendly since this is just a game. With luck we'll minimize the vulch and horde effects and make it a place you know you can find a fight. It was happening last night and it felt great.
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999000 is an accountant, I KNEW IT!!! :D
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Originally posted by 999000
just give me the data by which this change was determined!
999000
The only data used by HTC was the number of hours logged in the MA, AvA, and SEA by my squad in the last 2 years. I don't have the charts in front of me, having sent them to Grapewhine, but you can look it up through the scoring pages, IINM.
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AvA was a change of pace...not used. Im not sure why people think the fights are so better:confused: The gameplay has not changed, not at all. The only thing that has changed is the planes. The HO'n, the picking, the running, the hording...its all still there. Im not sure why everyone hates being picked by an La7 so much more than a 190?!:confused: your still being picked, end result is the same.
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Originally posted by Baylor
AvA was a change of pace...not used. ...
Well, from my own personal experience, I didn't play AvsA because you pretty much knew what you were going to be facing. And, knowing that, I had a pretty good idea whether or not I could just save myself a whole lot of time and just stay in the tower.
Case in point: Early war AvsA. F4F vs. A6M2/Val/Kate..whatever. My fortune was always to up the F4F then promptly encounter an A6M2 and return to the tower. Inevitable.
Now, with the early plane set enabled across all sides, I can encounter a TBM, SBD, F4F, < insert list of other craft here >, in addition to the Japanese craft. The end result isn't anywhere near as predictable, so I feel I have a better chance of surviving.. and a FAR better chance of being able to run home when I expire my supply of boom-stick or go-juice.
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Originally posted by Baylor
AvA was a change of pace...not used. Im not sure why people think the fights are so better:confused: The gameplay has not changed, not at all. The only thing that has changed is the planes. The HO'n, the picking, the running, the hording...its all still there. Im not sure why everyone hates being picked by an La7 so much more than a 190?!:confused: your still being picked, end result is the same.
Only way I can look at it Josh, is to make the best of it and hopefully if enough folks help set the tone in mid-war, maybe it won't be continually as you describe. The fact that there isn't one monster of a plane in there makes a huge difference to me in that when you enter a fight the other guy's going to be about even with you. And it's not all Spit 16, N1Ks and LA7s
Will there be guys shooting HO shots and vulching? No doubt, but maybe if folks don't get sucked into that kind of silliness, those few who know nothing else may learn something new.
Probably wishful thinking on my part, but considering where the MA had gotten to, at least this opens a door to make it better. Up to us to do it though so I'm going to stick it out in mid-war hoping to make it work.
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Balor i thought i did saport my resoning or did i not?? seriously i forget?
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i love the new setup . It helps to understand each aircrafts weakness and strength. Eg. Hurri I with 8 .303 is good at bomber killing , as it was in RL while the spit with less ammo and guns was better at taking on fighters . So hurri pilots take the incoming bombers leaving fighters for the spit boys . It encourages knowing your aircraft and your oponants not just take up the fastest/strongest/ heavly armed plane and sitting over a feild all day straffing it. Makes you think . The idea of Korea sounds great . Hope they no a vietnam version to, i'd love to roll in some hueys and AC130 gunships.
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The setup is good. Although I have and probably will only fly early arena the possibilities are setting up good in the future. Imagine 6 months down the road a dogfighting contest between the 3 setups....winning team get....whatever dont matter just sounds like a good time!!!