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Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: MrDick on September 16, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
Then they might know how to run the arenas...

Or at least it would make a great case study.

-MrD
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Meatwad on September 16, 2006, 04:27:11 PM
Hoo boy............
Title: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Shifty on September 16, 2006, 04:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by MrDick
Then they might know how to run the arenas...

Or at least it would make a great case study.

-MrD


I guess you come by that name honestly.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: hubsonfire on September 16, 2006, 04:54:32 PM
Maybe you should just hire a counselor?
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: uberhun on September 16, 2006, 05:18:43 PM
Mr. Dick.............What more needs to be said? :lol
Title: Re: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: SuperDud on September 16, 2006, 05:36:45 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
I guess you come by that name honestly.
:rofl
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: aztec on September 16, 2006, 05:44:40 PM
I think Skuzzy has  P.H.D. in Socioligy. That's why they hired him.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Stang on September 16, 2006, 05:51:19 PM
:noid
Title: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Grits on September 16, 2006, 05:53:55 PM
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Originally posted by MrDick
Then they might know how to run the arenas...


He has one, his name is Dr. Lazs.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: hitech on September 16, 2006, 06:35:16 PM
MrDick: Are you sure we havn't already done that?


HiTech
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: SFCHONDO on September 16, 2006, 06:41:40 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
MrDick: Are you sure we havn't already done that?


HiTech


Sure hope it wasn't a Liberial sociologist. I really like this game, hate to see you get bad advice. :D
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: hubsonfire on September 16, 2006, 06:54:42 PM
:lol
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: MrDick on September 16, 2006, 07:23:34 PM
Thanks for proving my point
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: LEADPIG on September 16, 2006, 07:38:43 PM
I think Donald Rumsfeld is secretly running HT lol :rolleyes: :p
Title: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: LYNX on September 16, 2006, 07:40:44 PM
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Originally posted by MrDick
Then they might know how to run the arenas...

Or at least it would make a great case study.

-MrD



On a serious note the times of thought of this.  What kind of player does all the gamey crap.  What kind of player does all the strat stuff.  What kind of player does all the furball stuff.  What kind of player ....so and so.  You get the jist.

I could see some professor getting a 2 million grant to work out the average phsycobabble that is our average AH2 ( ww2 plane geek )player.

For a tenner I'll tell ya...... Sad avacados behind a computer;)
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: doobs on September 16, 2006, 08:51:32 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
MrDick: Are you sure we havn't already done that?


HiTech


ok spell it
Title: Re: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Anchor on September 16, 2006, 08:58:47 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
I guess you come by that name honestly.


Cut MrDick some slack. I think what he suggested is very reasonable. Hitech even suggested they may have done just that. Sociology is the study of group dynamics. It would have been (or was) very logical to consider those dynamics when designing the new arenas.

IMHO, it was not good. Experiments don't always work out. They especially missed the chapter on the importance of communications while in transitions.

HOWEVER, I don't doubt for one minute Hitech and his team are trying to improve the game. I just hope if it does not work as expected they will consider reversing themselves if necessary.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: ALF on September 16, 2006, 09:08:40 PM
What I see at this point is a baseless attack/troll to begin the thread.  Please enlighten us with your scociology skill MrDick.  I think that , yes there is some discomfort anytime there is change, and taking a large group of people and splitting them amoung several areas, even on a volentary and non perminent bases, can cause some degree of angst.  However, I am also forced to remind myself that smaller, more memorable groups tend to form tighter, and more meaninful bonds.  

In a MA populated by 600-700 player at any given time, and a rotating base of over 2000+, you tend not to recognise many people.  I work in a building with thousands of people....and I know very few of them, and have little sense of belonging with all of the people in the buiding....noone is going to start chanting, "Big glass bulding 105 Rules....Big glass building 103 Sucks"....too many people....we just dont care.

In an arena with only a few hundred, we will move back towards what AH was a few years ago, and you will quickly start to recognise many of those around you, friendly and enemy.  Sure some people will float between the arenas, but a good portion will stick in one arena more than not.  This also will help make use of an otherwise wasted planeset.  Why fly an older model, if the newer is better in every way?  Now players who like older planes have a place with at least a little more parity.  So we have more sense of community, a better opportunity for those who like older planesets, and on top of all that, we will now have another valid reason to add some very cool early war planes.......why did we need a sociologist again?
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Anchor on September 16, 2006, 09:17:55 PM
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Originally posted by ALF
....In a MA populated by 600-700 player at any given time, and a rotating base of over 2000+, you tend not to recognise many people...


Respectfully, I disagree with that statement. The more crowded the arena, the more opportunities to find groups. Maybe I play too much, but I usually recognize 80% of the names I see. I know which groups I like to fly with (not a squaddie), and when its crowded I there are always several great groups out there. Big is better.

This small more meaningful theory is just nonsense. You always work in small groups when your fighting, but a large arena gives you more small groups to choose from.


Sorry, edited to show my callsign. I keep forgetting to open a new forum account:

Kilo16
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: doobs on September 16, 2006, 09:27:03 PM
what is needed is an alcoholiciologist
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Kermit de frog on September 16, 2006, 09:31:06 PM
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Originally posted by doobs
what is needed is an acoholiciologist



What you need is a spellologist.



:D
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: doobs on September 16, 2006, 09:34:22 PM
whooa prove me wrong, I have been drinking all night and it looks good to me. even wrote it three times, or once, I thought the one in the middle looked good.

ignore the edit thing
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: storch on September 16, 2006, 09:35:50 PM
I thought dr lazs was the bk proctologist.
Title: Re: Re: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: MrDick on September 16, 2006, 09:59:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Anchor
Cut MrDick some slack. I think what he suggested is very reasonable.  


Thanks!
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Grits on September 16, 2006, 10:18:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
I thought dr lazs was the bk proctologist.


He is. Lazs has many talents.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Vudak on September 17, 2006, 12:23:54 AM
Sociology is the science of excuses and cop-outs.

Get yerselves an anthropologist...  Much better suited to study such a strange community of online fighter sim jocks :p
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: NoBaddy on September 17, 2006, 12:30:39 AM
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Originally posted by Anchor

This small more meaningful theory is just nonsense. You always work in small groups when your fighting, but a large arena gives you more small groups to choose from.

Kilo16


Respectfully, I disagree with that statement. Been at this a LOOONG time. Played in arenas with limits from 32 to 700. The "social experience" is much greater in a smaller arena than a larger one.

Analogy time...

In which would you expect to have a greater "social experience"....

At the Super Bowl with 100,000+ others...or at a Super Bowl party with 20 to 30 people?

For me, the "social experience" has been nice. I have fought with and against folks I never got to see in the larger MA. While I believe there are still plenty of bumps to be smoothed out (and I am confident they will be), I do like the social aspects of the new setup.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: NoBaddy on September 17, 2006, 12:31:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Vudak
Sociology is the science of excuses and cop-outs.

Get yerselves an anthropologist...  Much better suited to study such a strange community of online fighter sim jocks :p


Who you callin' 'strange'???? :D
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: hubsonfire on September 17, 2006, 12:40:50 AM
The same people who formed those larger groups in the MA now form smaller groups in the other arenas. There's no less an opportunity to socialize and become acquainted with new peeps today than there was Tuesday. Everybody's still here, just in different rooms.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: storch on September 17, 2006, 07:55:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Grits
He is. Lazs has many talents.
hub said that when lazs performed his outgoing physical examination prior to separation from the BKs that lazs was very tender and had good bedside manner.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: FBplmmr on September 17, 2006, 08:20:13 AM
just wondering what a sociologist would say about someone who chooses to call himself "mrdick"?

 
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hub said that when lazs performed his outgoing physical examination prior to separation from the BKs that lazs was very tender and had good bedside manner.


Alot of the BKs will ask you to "turn your head and cough" if they get you cornered... kinda like a free flying health clinic:rolleyes:



(whoo 100 posts ... now I r teh big boy)
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: uberhun on September 17, 2006, 09:02:31 AM
He would say that he suffers from "a Phallic self esteem complex":lol
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: hitech on September 17, 2006, 09:19:54 AM
ALF: You have just stated our resones, almost as if you were a part of our discussions.

HiTech
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: lazs2 on September 17, 2006, 09:52:18 AM
yep..  sorta like those who live in big cities will tell you that they need all those people around em to feel "community" and yet... they don't know more than a few...  

A small town guy goes to the big city and can't make eye contact... if he does the people act scared of him.... if you smile at people they act offended.. wave to someone you see now and then in a big city and they might have you arrested..

In a small town.. you wave at everyone and they wave at you... you wave people on at 4 way stops even if you got there first... you hold doors open and you don't half jog when you walk unless you are exercising.

The EW arena was far more full of salutes and "after you, no... after you."  than I have seen in a month of 500 people in the MA.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: LEADPIG on September 17, 2006, 10:23:55 AM
Hitech, thanks for not shutting down threads and muting people when they express a little dissaray over your current decision. :noid
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Vudak on September 17, 2006, 11:54:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FBplmmr
just wondering what a sociologist would say about someone who chooses to call himself "mrdick"?



They'd probably say "[his] parents didn't empower [him] and, consequentially, [he's] not self-actualized" or some babble of the sort.

:D

Name the quote!
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: LEADPIG on September 17, 2006, 01:27:46 PM
Sounds like a Freudian quote, probably something abouth his pro id or super ego or something. :D  I think Freud may have something there.:D
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Vudak on September 17, 2006, 01:38:35 PM
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Originally posted by LEADPIG
Sounds like a Freudian quote, probably something abouth his pro id or super ego or something. :D  I think Freud may have something there.:D


Not even close...  Off by about sixty years...  :)
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: T0J0 on September 17, 2006, 04:16:47 PM
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Originally posted by ALF
What I see at this point is a baseless attack/troll to begin the thread.  Please enlighten us with your scociology skill MrDick.  I think that , yes there is some discomfort anytime there is change, and taking a large group of people and splitting them amoung several areas, even on a volentary and non perminent bases, can cause some degree of angst.  However, I am also forced to remind myself that smaller, more memorable groups tend to form tighter, and more meaninful bonds.  

In a MA populated by 600-700 player at any given time, and a rotating base of over 2000+, you tend not to recognise many people.  I work in a building with thousands of people....and I know very few of them, and have little sense of belonging with all of the people in the buiding....noone is going to start chanting, "Big glass bulding 105 Rules....Big glass building 103 Sucks"....too many people....we just dont care.

In an arena with only a few hundred, we will move back towards what AH was a few years ago, and you will quickly start to recognise many of those around you, friendly and enemy.  Sure some people will float between the arenas, but a good portion will stick in one arena more than not.  This also will help make use of an otherwise wasted planeset.  Why fly an older model, if the newer is better in every way?  Now players who like older planes have a place with at least a little more parity.  So we have more sense of community, a better opportunity for those who like older planesets, and on top of all that, we will now have another valid reason to add some very cool early war planes.......why did we need a sociologist again?


To much common sense for one post.... Your on post restriction :)
Title: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: mojo7 on September 17, 2006, 04:42:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MrDick
Then they might know how to run the arenas...

Or at least it would make a great case study.

-MrD


Maybe MrDick can hire a proctologist to remove the stick from his prettythang

That would make an even better case study.

:t
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: MrDick on September 17, 2006, 05:20:19 PM
So much hate and anger here.  LOL.  All based on a game ID.

Mojo7 you dont even play main arena.

Tour 80 : 0 time
Tour 79 : 0 time
Tour 78 : 0 time
Tour 77 : 0 time

Or do you hide behind another ID online?

-MrD
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: mojo7 on September 17, 2006, 09:34:46 PM
‘It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.’     — Charles Darwin
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: Grits on September 18, 2006, 10:00:28 AM
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Originally posted by storch
hub said that when lazs performed his outgoing physical examination prior to separation from the BKs that lazs was very tender and had good bedside manner.


Yeah, we never could figure out why hub requested an exam every week.
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: storch on September 18, 2006, 10:30:35 AM
or why the exam was performed with both hands firmly grasping the shoulders
Title: HT should hire a sociologist
Post by: CHECKERS on September 18, 2006, 11:21:24 AM
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Originally posted by uberhun
Mr. Dick.............What more needs to be said? :lol



    ? What more needs to be said ? Just this .... "Mr. Dick, GOBLOWADOG !" :t