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Title: whats the deal
Post by: ujustdied on September 17, 2006, 01:01:04 AM
im in this new early arena and every freaking time i get hit my engine goes boom and turns off. this happend about every 1 tonight. im sick of this. i mean 2 pings and my engine quits its really rediculous. then in my 109 i come up to a hurricane put about 18 rounds into him and nothing happends. WTF i guess this is why my uncle is really pist about this too. he is getting the same thing. is this some kind of bug or what??? but its really pisssing me off.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: SFCHONDO on September 17, 2006, 01:06:52 AM
Been flying EW mostly and I have not had that problem once yet. Dunno what to tell ya. bad luck i guess.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Stang on September 17, 2006, 02:01:43 AM
:huh
Title: Re: whats the deal
Post by: NoBaddy on September 17, 2006, 02:07:09 AM
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Originally posted by ujustdied
...then in my 109 i come up to a hurricane put about 18 rounds into him and nothing happends.  


18 rounds where? It's what you hit...not how many times you hit. It only takes 1 hit....provided you hit the right thing. :)
Title: whats the deal
Post by: RacrX on September 17, 2006, 02:10:03 AM
Who Dey!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Atoon on September 17, 2006, 02:34:41 AM
i've heard complaint of the 109 losing engine when hit in wings, likely a bug that wasnt realized when 109 wasn't flewn as much. Since the changes, 109 flights have drmatically increased, & perhaps have xposed an old bug that previously went unnoticed. I bet it will be investigated if someone reports it as a possible bug in the BUG FORUM.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 17, 2006, 03:11:31 AM
How about im in a P-40E, and I get TWO PINGS from a spit, and things dont fall off, I BLOW UP COMPLETELY!!! Ive taken much worse and only lost my flaps before, but in this, im suddenly made of paper mache and theZero's armor seems to have DOUBLED!!! I mean head on, blasting away at the wing root, and nothing happens to them!
Title: whats the deal
Post by: hubsonfire on September 17, 2006, 03:35:09 PM
I'm no expert, but I don't think there's anyway a 20mm cannon round should be able to knock out an engine or kill a pilot.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 17, 2006, 06:29:36 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I'm no expert, but I don't think there's anyway a 20mm cannon round should be able to knock out an engine or kill a pilot.


I disagree. A 20mm can kill a pilot, or knock out an engine. It CANNOT blow up the plane.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: 2bighorn on September 17, 2006, 06:33:08 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
I disagree. A 20mm can kill a pilot, or knock out an engine. It CANNOT blow up the plane.
If the pilot gets killed, plane blows up...
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 17, 2006, 06:35:28 PM
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
If the pilot gets killed, plane blows up...


By pilot kill, I meant pilot wound. But I fail to see how shooting the tail with two shots causes the whole plane to explode.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Nightshift82 on September 17, 2006, 10:31:06 PM
shot placement mean anything?
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 12:45:21 AM
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Originally posted by Nightshift82
shot placement mean anything?



Yes, but just before explosion, it was my elevators that were red (I was flying with my damage list open, which I sometimes do) so there is no way a loss of elevators at 8k will make your plane go 'boom'.
Title: Re: whats the deal
Post by: TinmanX on September 18, 2006, 01:14:08 AM
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Originally posted by ujustdied
in my 109 i come up to a hurricane put about 18 rounds into him and nothing happends.


Hurricanes are canvas over wooden frame. Cannon rounds are only effective when coming into contact with something solid. You could therefore theoretically put all your 20mm's into this plane and not cause any substantial structural damage..... Theoretically.
Title: Re: Re: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 01:26:15 AM
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Hurricanes are canvas over wooden frame. Cannon rounds are only effective when coming into contact with something solid. You could therefore theoretically put all your 20mm's into this plane and not cause any substantial structural damage..... Theoretically.


Yes, but is the GAME modelled like that?
Title: whats the deal
Post by: TinmanX on September 18, 2006, 01:27:52 AM
I believe it has been taken into account, yes.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 01:29:22 AM
Hmmm. Cool. Didnt think they would model that.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: TinmanX on September 18, 2006, 02:00:28 AM
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Originally posted by TinmanX
I believe it has been taken into account, yes.


Of course, I could be wrong, but Hurrys are always troublesome to disable for me and all I have heard from.

Aiming for a wing never gets you anywhere fast. My Grandfather used to tell me tales of coming home in his Hurry with multiple holes in his wings as big as large grapefruits.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 03:26:39 AM
I find aiming at the cockpit works :t

Even if he DOES survive, that pilot wound will get him sooner or later!
Title: whats the deal
Post by: hubsonfire on September 18, 2006, 10:59:13 AM
The hurricane and the jug are, in my experience, 2 of the hardest planes to bring down in a fight, and that would seem to reflect their reputations.

And I was being sarcastic about the 20mm comment. A cannon round will eviscerate a human being. If you blew up, you either took a lot of damage, and the final rounds were the killing blow, or you caught one in the bucket.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: megadud on September 18, 2006, 11:03:22 AM
I think the solution to both of your problems is to not get hit :aok

DuD Out :D
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 01:19:29 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
The hurricane and the jug are, in my experience, 2 of the hardest planes to bring down in a fight, and that would seem to reflect their reputations.

And I was being sarcastic about the 20mm comment. A cannon round will eviscerate a human being. If you blew up, you either took a lot of damage, and the final rounds were the killing blow, or you caught one in the bucket.


Nope. I had entered the fight only seconds before, and took no previous damage. I just dont see how I could have died! It was an early spit (V I think, maybe a I, it was the early war arena) and I only took two hits in the tail. Granted, my cockpit was oriented twoard his guns, but the hits and damage seemed confined to my extreme tail.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: indy007 on September 18, 2006, 02:35:47 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Nope. I had entered the fight only seconds before, and took no previous damage. I just dont see how I could have died! It was an early spit (V I think, maybe a I, it was the early war arena) and I only took two hits in the tail. Granted, my cockpit was oriented twoard his guns, but the hits and damage seemed confined to my extreme tail.


Did you record it? It's possible you were killed by somebody you didn't see. Happens all the time.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: McDeath on September 18, 2006, 03:14:43 PM
Reynolds, I think you missed what some of the guys said-

If you (the pilot) are shot dead, not just pilot wounded, your plane just explodes. That is the way it is modeled in the game
Title: whats the deal
Post by: NCLawman on September 18, 2006, 03:21:34 PM
The only time I ever take one in the engine and it shuts down immediately (dead engine) is when I am being a ho-ing bass-tard and I get out shot on the ho.  Hhhhummm... something to think about.... strategy -- no more ho-s:aok :rofl
Title: whats the deal
Post by: SELECTOR on September 18, 2006, 03:29:54 PM
i've only flown in the early war room, so i can only speak of this room..
tried the 190a5 everything seemed normal and fine
tried the 109f didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, but my engine did smoke from 1 ping.
tried the hurri2c im sure this plane is set to practice room settings.. i lit up plane after plane with no kills..

if they have messed around with the setting i wish they would turn them back. because if they have then they must have been wrong in the old MA or they are wrong now.. just don't seem consistant..

i do like the 3 rooms ..but early set souyld be pre 1941
Title: whats the deal
Post by: BugsBunny on September 18, 2006, 03:50:44 PM
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
because if they have then they must have been wrong in the old MA or they are wrong now.. just don't seem consistant..


Is this like the flight models that have been correct and accurate for the past 4 years, but somehow they change after every patch?
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 04:39:07 PM
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Originally posted by McDeath
Reynolds, I think you missed what some of the guys said-

If you (the pilot) are shot dead, not just pilot wounded, your plane just explodes. That is the way it is modeled in the game


Please explain how damaged elevators kills a pilot.

And no, I wasnt recording. But there were only two guys in the vicinity, I was high enough up to see, and the other wasnt near enough to me.
Title: whats the deal
Post by: hubsonfire on September 18, 2006, 05:58:16 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Please explain how damaged elevators kills a pilot.

And no, I wasnt recording. But there were only two guys in the vicinity, I was high enough up to see, and the other wasnt near enough to me.


If you are accurately describing the situation, your little meatlump took a direct hit. If you were not killed by a canopy shot, then you are likely not describing the situation accurately. I'm unaware of 2 hits (even from a hizooka)being able to outright blow a plane up without killing the pilot, and I've been a Hurritard for ages. If there's some other situation that would mirror what you describe, I have not idea what it could be.

Tin, where did you grandfather serve?
Title: whats the deal
Post by: Reynolds on September 18, 2006, 06:01:13 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
If you are accurately describing the situation, your little meatlump took a direct hit. If you were not killed by a canopy shot, then you are likely not describing the situation accurately. I'm unaware of 2 hits (even from a hizooka)being able to outright blow a plane up without killing the pilot, and I've been a Hurritard for ages. If there's some other situation that would mirror what you describe, I have not idea what it could be.

Tin, where did you grandfather serve?


I am acurately describing it. And now you know why I am saying "WTF?!?"