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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TheflyingElk on September 18, 2006, 06:07:37 PM
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OK, I get it we need to split the arena's for the sake of the over all game, but come on, I just logged on to the mid-war arena finally had some worthy numbers to play, but then the ENY restricts every mid war A/C and GV, talk about fustration:mad: :mad: , with low numbers the eny made it impossible to up anything competative, it's like fighting ak-47's with daisy bb guns, what fun is that?
The EW arena is a giant furball, with assists everywhere, not thats always a bad thing, but I would like to fly the mid-war rides once in a while 51B and 38J but with the current set up its just not possible. Tweeking needs to take place or sorry guys its just not worth the grief anymore.
And Iam a big fan of the game, but this is the hight of fustration for me, I dont care to fly late war due to all the LALA dweebs but the other options are not much better. sorry for the Rant but I had to post my thoughts for nothing else to blow off steam. :O :O
I hope it gets better, right now its tough to be positive:confused: :(
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Um, change sides?
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Originally posted by TheflyingElk
Rant but I had to post my thoughts for nothing else to blow off steam. :O :O
I hope it gets better, right now its tough to be positive:confused: :(
It will get better. Hang in there. They have a lot of things to identify. What you call blowing off steam is actually identifying problems that made need fixing. Give em time.:aok
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I cant switch sides! The King of the Bishnitooks kidnapped my dog and said he would lop its head of if I switched. :(
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Try something other than the quasi-Late War P-38J and P-51B?
Spitfire Mk IX, Bf109G-2, Mosquito Mk VI, La-5FN, Fw190A-5 and A6M5b are all capable of killing fast.
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This is supposed to be fun, not an exercise in frustration.
This stuff should have been thought about and addressed before the changes were made.
The ENY was instituted to try to solve problems in the MA, now the MA is no more. AH survived many years without an ENY. Maybe the ENY is not necessary now. How long does it take to figure that out?
Why not turn off the ENY and see how that works? Obviously, having it on is just getting people PO'd.
This is the kind of stuff that will kill the game, people logging on and then logging off because it's a frustrating experience. They'll put up with it for a while, but eventually they will find that they would rather do other things, like talk to their wives, pet their dogs or even watch TV than try logging on to AH just to get angry.
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Originally posted by baine1
Why not turn off the ENY and see how that works? Obviously, having it on is just getting people PO'd.
Because it essentially was off the first day or two because HTC had not changed the 200 player limit for ENY to kick in. Thus we had 125 rook vs 55 bish vs 14 nit in some arenas with no ENY limit. That was getting people PO'd even more.
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With the lower arena caps its is even MORE important that ENY limiter stay in use. Tweek it until it works, but dont get rid of it.
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Originally posted by Grits
I cant switch sides! The King of the Bishnitooks kidnapped my dog and said he would lop its head of if I switched. :(
I got a real earful last night for not being loyal to my country.
It was pretty cool, didn't know people really took it that seriously.
Lots of room for baiting, I think.....
- oldman (this MA stuff is drawing me to the dark side fast) (where do they get men like this?)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I got a real earful last night for not being loyal to my country.
It was pretty cool, didn't know people really took it that seriously.
Lots of room for baiting, I think.....
- oldman (this MA stuff is drawing me to the dark side fast) (where do they get men like this?)
All that time in AVA, and SEA seems to have given some of us patriotic issues. The chess police hauled me in last night and jabbed a bishop under my finger nail until I pledged my loyalty.
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Originally posted by Grits
With the lower arena caps its is even MORE important that ENY limiter stay in use. Tweek it until it works, but dont get rid of it.
100% agreed on that one.
if the players are split 20:10:5 (rook:bish:knit) then rooks should be punished. since its totally unfair.
but then that's the overall problem with this new setup, which will take along while to get settled, because the next arena will probably be the opposite, something like 10:10:40, then 30:60:20 in another arena...
maybe, if HTC can, it should update the roster page, so you can view all 3 "MA's".
so there is tabs up the top, EW, MW, LW and you can check what the sides are like and join other arenas.... that way you can also see if your mates are online in other arenas?
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Originally posted by Grits
With the lower arena caps its is even MORE important that ENY limiter stay in use. Tweek it until it works, but dont get rid of it.
ENY doesn't work, very few change sides due it. They log off. Been this way since it was incorporated. Only way sides are going to be perfectly balanced is if the community changes there mind set and fix it thereselves.
I think there are other methods that may somewhat help the imbalance a lot better the ENY.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Um, change sides?
so ok...... your playing with your squad, and all of a sudden a few more players join the server on your side....... do YOU change sides?
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Yes we do. We LOVE killing squadmates, especially hub.
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Originally posted by Grits
Yes we do. We LOVE killing squadmates, especially hub.
well i always got killed by my squad mates, so never left there cover :rofl :lol
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so hitech needs to change the sensitivity, so that one team needs more than say, 15 more (random number) people than the next largest team before it kicks in- that way a the natural fluctuation of numbers that previously got lost in the sea, dont have an effect on peoples choices, while any real problems are the fault of players themselves.
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Originally posted by Overlag
so ok...... your playing with your squad, and all of a sudden a few more players join the server on your side....... do YOU change sides?
Well, yeah, that's what the ENY limit is there for- to tell you to quit being a tool and move to the underdog side.
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Originally posted by Overlag
so ok...... your playing with your squad, and all of a sudden a few more players join the server on your side....... do YOU change sides?
Yes, sadly too many folks seem to think the other way however as every arena I went into tonite had one country with exceedingly high numbers and said crowd attacking undefended bases. In midwar tonite on my first flight I upped as there were baduns coming in. 109A5 tried to vulch me and missed, just about lost control of his plane, tried to turn with my 38G and died. The 38J above him left, and the 110 that followed passed me over too as he attacked the base. I then killed him. I stayed up figuring they might return. No such luck. They moved to another part of the map undefended. Was sad really.
Then of course came the all too glorious capture of a base message on the bottom of the screen. Naturally no one was defending it at the time.
I just don't get it. How can that possibly be fun?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Um, change sides?
I can't switch. My squadies and I are Bish. We don't like the Nits and the Rooks told us to leave. So Bish it is. We may not be smart but we're also slow. :p
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Yes, sadly too many folks seem to think the other way however as every arena I went into tonite had one country with exceedingly high numbers and said crowd attacking undefended bases.
Then of course came the all too glorious capture of a base message on the bottom of the screen. Naturally no one was defending it at the time.
I just don't get it. How can that possibly be fun?
I agree that NMY needs a realistic looking at. But have been caught a couple of times already with switching sides to help equalize then become trapped when the numbers shift. Twice was stuck with a NMY so high that was left with only buffs.
Not being able to change back a couple of hours later, only thing left was to shutdown bases with buffs. What other mission is there for them?
Until things get adjusted or "tweaked", would be nice to at least lift the changing side time restriction of make it somewhat very reasonable.
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AKKaz, I think you're seeing the "sloshing water" effect. The problem is, that the eny system, and the values assigned to individual planes, was designed for an average MA population of 300-700. The problem is, ENY was'nt made to make a person jump sides. It was made to restrict the higher end aircraft, and if you guys can remember in the old MA, It rarely locked out the entire planeset. It forced you into MW and EW rides, but did'nt make it so the only thing you could up was a C-47. I'd never seen it to where you had to do more than give up some of the uber-late war rides. The thing is, though, they could count on so many people in the MA at one time(or, a certain % of players).However, the ENY values for the individual planes are now out of whack. They might have to adjust the ENY values in the hangar...But this won't prevent the problem of Too many people flying for 1 country, and not the other 2. People jumping back and forth are going to find out, that if too many jump the fence, It just transfers the problem to another country. I figure it's gonna take some time to try to sort this out, (If there is an acceptable solution.)
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Originally posted by TheflyingElk
The EW arena is a giant furball
that is the only thing i cared about in that post w00000000000000000000000000oo oOOOOOOOOOOOO00oooOOOT!!!
DuD Out :aok :O :O :O
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Originally posted by KTM520guy
We may not be smart but we're also slow. :p
:lol All the more reason to switch countries. :)
Yeah, the balancing situation could use a bit of tweaking, but we'll get there at some point. I'm sure those guys in Grapevine are working on that situation as well. At least I hope they are. Otherwise, you'd better warm up those Vals. ;)
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Originally posted by Overlag
so ok...... your playing with your squad, and all of a sudden a few more players join the server on your side....... do YOU change sides?
Yep.
Asked the boys if they were OK with it and then switched to shoot at them :). Was better 2 vs 2 then 4 vs 1......
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theres alot of time were the EWA and MWA just get screwed, just now nishops won the reset, comes bakc on there was 8 people in the room(includeing all countrys), only room that doesnt have this prob is the LWA..... aint that a kick in the head:lol . Its like the rooms are time sensative, i heard the euro guys are getting the raw deal with that one. When it comes to the eny its just crazy, couldnt get any fighters the other day, nothin at all, i dont even think the spit 1 was open. The env could still work in the LWA but the EWA it just makes life hard, its not like f4u1d is locked..fine f4u1, but when im in a p40b there aint no where to go.
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Originally posted by bkbandit
theres alot of time were the EWA and MWA just get screwed, just now nishops won the reset, comes bakc on there was 8 people in the room(includeing all countrys), only room that doesnt have this prob is the LWA..... aint that a kick in the head:lol . Its like the rooms are time sensative, i heard the euro guys are getting the raw deal with that one. When it comes to the eny its just crazy, couldnt get any fighters the other day, nothin at all, i dont even think the spit 1 was open. The env could still work in the LWA but the EWA it just makes life hard, its not like f4u1d is locked..fine f4u1, but when im in a p40b there aint no where to go.
yeah its 4:5:85 atm (EW:MW:LW)
LW is like 35:20:35 (bish:knit:rook)