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Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 19, 2006, 09:27:16 PM
If everything goes according to plan, this will be my new ride by Thurs. evening:

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G822110851-1.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G822110851-5.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G822110851-2.jpg)

2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 2D Coupe
Exterior Color: Blue
Interior Color: Gray Leather
Mileage: 40K
 
It's an automatic, which isn't my first choice, but finding Z's with a manual transmission is very hard around here.  They are either very high mileage cars or are trailer queens and too expensive.  I still need to give the car my own personal inspection but I am hoping that will go smoothly.  I'd still would rather have my old Camaro but I'll take this one for now, until the new ones come out...if they ever.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Slash27 on September 19, 2006, 09:44:15 PM
I looked pretty hard at a Trans AM in that same color a few years back. Bought a Dodge pick up instead. The car was a better bet.:(
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Post by: JB88 on September 19, 2006, 10:04:09 PM
looks nice.  :cool:
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 19, 2006, 10:08:06 PM
Thank you!  And I agree.
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Post by: superpug1 on September 19, 2006, 10:12:59 PM
Ya i hear you about the New Camaros. I have my truck untill they come out. Coincidentaly, the year they come out is the year my truck will be elegible for an antique registration...it wont have to pass inspection anymore! hehehe ive got plans. I already have a 350 built for it, and 3,73 posi rear end. just gotta install em. should be fun in the snow when im in college lol. Man i hope the new camaros have a 6spd manual and Ls2 option...:)
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Post by: doobs on September 19, 2006, 11:20:34 PM
which Engine?
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 19, 2006, 11:35:42 PM
5.7L Engine
340 Torque@4000
310 Horsepower@5200
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Post by: eagl on September 20, 2006, 05:24:49 AM
That's going to be a great car for you Diablo.  A 2002 Z28 with 40k miles should last you 10 years, assuming some intoxicated bimbo doesn't t-bone you again.

My 1998 TA has over 120k on it after 8 years and it's still running very strong.  Very few mechanical problems especially considering it's a Pontiac.  I figure I've had to put less than $4k worth of repairs into it in 8 years and it will still outrun any stock mustang GT on the road.
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Post by: Squire on September 20, 2006, 05:54:26 AM
Should wax up nicely.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 06:00:41 AM
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Originally posted by eagl
That's going to be a great car for you Diablo.  A 2002 Z28 with 40k miles should last you 10 years, assuming some intoxicated bimbo doesn't t-bone you again.

My 1998 TA has over 120k on it after 8 years and it's still running very strong.  Very few mechanical problems especially considering it's a Pontiac.  I figure I've had to put less than $4k worth of repairs into it in 8 years and it will still outrun any stock mustang GT on the road.


Was hoping you'd see this post.  When you get back to Texas I'll motor on up and we'll have a F-body party.  I need to dig up that thread of yours where you explained the mods on your TA.  I don't know if I want to go that far with my Z, but I still would like to know what you did.

LS1...accept no substitute!!

:D
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Post by: eagl on September 20, 2006, 06:17:18 AM
I really haven't done too many mods to my car, but I know of a LOT that can be done on the cheap.

My car has only bump-adjustable racing shocks, K&N air filter, removed skip-shift "feature", and a new muffler.  What I may do and still remain legal in my racing class is add a stiffer front swaybar and a full cat-back exhaust swapout to the mix.

What I'd do if I wasn't racing autox, would include a number of intake and exhaust mods.  For example, just cutting the bottom of the airbox out gives you "free" ram-air straight from the underbody air dam into the air filter.  Then cut out the stiffening ribs inside the airbox and block off the sound-deadening bellows in the intake.  Replace the ribbed flex-hose between the throttle body and the airbox with a smooth flexible tube or hose.  Dunno if the 2002 has it, but the EGR tube sticks into the intake about an inch, and more than half of that can be cut off, freeing up intake airflow.

The throttle body is heated by a short coolant loop that can be bypassed, reducing intake temperatures.

The exhaust is generally a bit restrictive, so a cat-back exhaust will get you real performance gains for not much cost.  Get a bit more by going with headers and true dual exhaust, although that can cost a lot and lead to clearance problems if not done properly.

Lots of little stuff you can do to an LS1 F-body :)
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Post by: bkbandit on September 20, 2006, 10:21:31 AM
how much they want for it.  I just dont like that they jack the price on these things, like a dam v8 is new tech or something. I have seen ls1s with 60k on them stock and the bastard wants 24k, freaking crooks, i couldve sworn that cars loss value. When this cars were introduced they were meant for young guys 18-25 not old men, and old men is all i see driveing these cars now.

I like the new camaro coming out, i saw it at the auto show. I would get one if its affordable. Wit the new transformer movie coming out there going to be alot of hype around that car. theres a couple of cars iun that movie that will prob see a boost in sales, mustang hummer(i forgot which one) that small pontiac copue(forgot what its cooled) are all in he movie.
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Post by: SmokinSS on September 20, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
The 01 and 02 LS1's do not have a EGR tube sticking into the throttle body. They also come stock with the LS6 intake. Depending on what kind of power you want to make the LSX is the easiest power making small block GM produced. A heads and cam with headers and a decent cat back will put down over 400 rwhp.

The after market is huge for the LSX platform now. Save up though once you start it is a long dark tunnel to go through. I am in the middle of that tunnel right now with no end in sight. :t  My 01 currently puts down a little over 900 on the bottle, but the new turbo setup is almost ready to go in. We have built a LQ9 408 with a 100mm Garret with a air/water intercooler setup. It should be a blast if my no driving butt can get it to hook. Before anyone asks no mine is not street legal anymore. It is being built for the NMCA Mean Street class.

There are several good sites to peruse if you want to get up to speed about your new power plant.

LS1Tech.com

LS2.com

There are a ton more but those are my two favorites at the moment.

Dialbo what part of TX are you from?


Have a great day and congrats.

Robert
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 01:18:45 PM
I'm from that part where Z-28's are hard to come by and lots are filled with spanked Mustangs...Houston.

The reason, bk, that they are pricey is because they don't make them (f-body) anymore and as Smokin just said the LS1 is the best bang for the buck out there.  And, yes, I am one of those "old men" (40 next Jauary) that has been driving F-body's since before you could say "WS-6".  Be a bit more respectful, junior!  :)

Previous F-body's I've owned:
1977 Pontiac Trans Am SanB edit.
1996 Chevrolet Camaro

Next f-body:
2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28


The tradition continues...
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Post by: SmokinSS on September 20, 2006, 01:22:29 PM
Diablo you are sitting in the middle of LS1 central. Cruise over to MTI or the SAM school with your check book and tell them to make it nasty. :D  

Robert
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Masherbrum on September 20, 2006, 01:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
If everything goes according to plan, this will be my new ride by Thurs. evening:

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G822110851-1.jpg)  

2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 2D Coupe
Exterior Color: Blue
Interior Color: Gray Leather
Mileage: 40K
 
It's an automatic, which isn't my first choice, but finding Z's with a manual transmission is very hard around here.  They are either very high mileage cars or are trailer queens and too expensive.  I still need to give the car my own personal inspection but I am hoping that will go smoothly.  I'd still would rather have my old Camaro but I'll take this one for now, until the new ones come out...if they ever.


I'm happy for you Diablo.   I hope this car IS yours, and gives you as much enjoyment as one can get out of it.   <>
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 01:32:28 PM
I think 310hp will keep me happy.  For a while.  

Please elaborate, how am I in the middle of LS1 central?  I had no idea.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 01:34:21 PM
Damn Mash, thanks a ton!  It does mean alot to me to see kind words like that.
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Post by: bkbandit on September 20, 2006, 01:42:55 PM
i dont see it that way, i seen ls1 crate motors and they want 6 7k, for that i can get a heavy modded 80s camaro(everything from small blocks to big blocks to superchargered). They made it offical that camaro is coming out in 08, people are already reserving them. Anythin over 13-11k is too much. The worst thing about u old men that get these cars is that deep down alot of u want vettes. At 25k ur better off wit a 60's camaro, that shouldnt be a hard find in texas.
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Post by: SmokinSS on September 20, 2006, 01:50:51 PM
Some of the fastest LSX cars are from Houston and a great deal of the best speed shops for these cars are in TX. S.A.M. or the School for Automotive Machinist's is located there. They are in the process of building the first 500 c.i. LS2. It should be a ground pounder. Estimates are saying 600 N/A but I don't know if that would be at the flywheel or at the wheel. I am going to guess at the flywheel, but that would still make a little over 500 rwhp through a manual.

When I bought my SS I was planning on keeping it stock. That lasted about 3 months until I rode in a friend of mines WS6 that was s/c. The mod bug bit and hasn't turned loose yet.  You may have more self control than I do and I hope the bug doesn't bite you as hard as it did me.

Robert
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Post by: Grayeagle on September 20, 2006, 01:57:07 PM
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Originally posted by bkbandit
When this cars were introduced they were meant for young guys 18-25 not old men, and old men is all i see driveing these cars now.


I owned a '96 z28, new off the show room floor.

I was 46 then .. bite me, dweeb.

(prolly drivin my '67 Hemi GTX 4-gear car before you figured out which end of an ice cream cone you had to lick)

-GE (ya, summer of 1969, Central Ave, Phx AZ)
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Post by: Ripsnort on September 20, 2006, 02:03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Grayeagle
I owned a '96 z28, new off the show room floor.

I was 46 then .. bite me, dweeb.

(prolly drivin my '67 Hemi GTX 4-gear car before you figured out which end of an ice cream cone you had to lick)


-GE (ya, summer of 1969, Central Ave, Phx AZ)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: CLW81Z on September 20, 2006, 02:03:30 PM
Congrats:D LS1 is one awsome motor. My Dads got a 2000 Formula Firebird with a LS1 and its got 340 hp with headers, SLP airbox, and a few other mods.
And i have a 81 Z28 (Not running) and a 84 Elcamino SS (1/2 mine 1/2 my dad's)
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: ASTAC on September 20, 2006, 02:09:44 PM
Another Camaro? Didn't you learn anything the first time?
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 20, 2006, 02:54:10 PM
That's ironic Diablo, I was looking at Carmax's TA/Z28s last week. I need an airport car for the winter, don't want the snow/salt combo eat up my daily driver classic. I guess I'm not in texas/ so cal anymore :D I too was looking for a manual but didn't find a color/price combo I liked. I still have 1 - 1.5 month before the heavy snow ... hopefully.

But since I have to carry my familly around, I almost picked a Jag X, green, 35K, V6, 3.0, 230HP Manual gear box for $17,000. :rolleyes: Sucks to grow old with responbilities!


(http://carmax.com/MultiImages/SAJEB51CX3WD07493/SAJEB51CX3WD07493-3.jpg)
(http://carmax.com/MultiImages/SAJEB51CX3WD07493/SAJEB51CX3WD07493-5.jpg)
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Post by: Iceman24 on September 20, 2006, 03:47:50 PM
sweet car bro
of coarse looking at your avatar, you would look better in a 1970 Chevelle with the big block 454 and cowl induction in it :) :) I think they were around 360 hp 500'lbs of torque, oh man what a sweet ride

" I love highschool, every year I get older, but the chicks, they stay the same"  "Right on, right on" ... great movie :)
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Post by: bkbandit on September 20, 2006, 05:14:01 PM
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Originally posted by Grayeagle
I owned a '96 z28, new off the show room floor.

I was 46 then .. bite me, dweeb.

(prolly drivin my '67 Hemi GTX 4-gear car before you figured out which end of an ice cream cone you had to lick)

-GE (ya, summer of 1969, Central Ave, Phx AZ)


almost near 60, dont forget ur meds grandpa:lol

Funny thing is the old guys i talk to tell me this, they look at my 86 and tell me its a toy, and pull out a c3 vette redone with a 454. Theres a guy mike, has a beast of a 442 told me that its sad what the car makers do, that in his day somethin like a camaro was dirt cheap with minor modds give u 300 horse, a fun car to drive and race but there was always one older guy that came with a suped up vette and pwned everyone. I just hate that im the only guy around here that noes what a camaro is, im stuck in generation rice:mad: . I seriously rather talk to u older guys then guys my age, nothin but rap videos and rice on the brain.


That camaro looks good, u got ur leather t-tops, ss rims would have been nice but on a performance car it doesnt matter, without them ull get the car for cheaper. I really dont like those bodys much but if it was me the first thing that u need on that car is a after market hood, would be cool to get a ram air set up but they want too much for that, as long as air blews into the engine bay we will call it ram air. Simple things like some magnaflow exhuast maybe a high flow cat or the o/r pipe cold air and maybe the racing chip. NOthin crazy so u can drive everyday without drinking gas.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 05:16:10 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Another Camaro? Didn't you learn anything the first time?


Sure did.  Greatest cars ever for the money.

As for the 1970 Chevelle...hey bro, you got a spare $50k?

Frenchy, it's amazing how fast these cars are selling around here (the LS1's).  That Carmax had a TA come in that morning and by the afternoon is was gone.  I'm just glad I found a Z at my price level that has just about everything that I want.  

Bk, it ain't about the 'vettes.  I like 'vettes too but I've always been an f-body man since as long as I can remember.  You "choose" not to see it that way but you don't have to.  Why spend 6k - 7k for a crate motor when you can get the whole car for 15k?  That ain't a whole lot of money especially considering what you're getting for it.

Wooderson: Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some ****in' muscle.
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Post by: bkbandit on September 20, 2006, 05:23:59 PM
but 6k with out installing, and i dont think they give u the computer either, plus u dont have the non of the accessiors, alternater etc.I noe a guy that put a 454 in a 68 for 7 and thats wit installand everything needed to run. It should be cheaper, they make them by them dozen.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 06:30:54 PM
Well, you're proving my point.  Why just get a crate motor when you can buy the whole car?

Reminds me of that scene in Fast And The Furious when Vin tells that guy, "Not a bad way to spend ten thousand dollars."  Can you imagine what you could do to a small block for that and wouldn't even need NOS/turbos/blower?  Cracks me up everytime I see it.  That Dodge Charger was the best part of that movie.  Sorry, it was the ONLY good part of that movie.
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Post by: bkbandit on September 20, 2006, 07:26:53 PM
u got that right, dam thing picks up on 2 wheels and is still smokin, but still takes 30 secs to do a quarter mile, gotta love hollywood.


THe ls1 crate motor is expensive, put a 350ho is way cheaper, get one used wit some miles on it and its SUPER cheap. a v8 isnt new tech, the companys im really getting out of hand.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 20, 2006, 08:40:59 PM
In TF&F the Charger had little wheels under the chasi to make the front wheels lift up :)
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Post by: rpm on September 20, 2006, 09:20:54 PM
Congrats Diablo, hope ya enjoy the ride.
Personally, I think you should look at that Audi on the other side of the row.;)
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 20, 2006, 11:06:03 PM
RPM, after managing a Mercedes repair for 6 years I have found that the German cars leave me cold, especially their interiors.  It's not they are bad cars, not that at all.  I just don't see enough "warmth" in them.  German's take "function over form" to a whole different level IMHO.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 21, 2006, 12:14:48 AM
BTW what were the financing details with Carmax?
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 12:25:19 AM
Way, way too high.  I am going through my Credit Union at half the percentage rate that Carmax quoted me.  Any more details PM me.
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Post by: tikky on September 21, 2006, 12:43:41 AM
Those F-Bodies are cool.  If i have extra cash i'll exchange the stock tranny, suspensions, and engine with a honda engine or Nissan skyline's twin turbo RB26DETT's:aok
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Post by: JB88 on September 21, 2006, 12:46:32 AM
you got it yet?
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 12:50:40 AM
This afternoon sometime.

It's like freaking Christmas eve.

Good thing I am at work and not at home, I'd be climbing walls right now.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 12:54:55 AM
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Originally posted by tikky
Those F-Bodies are cool.  If i have extra cash i'll exchange the stock tranny, suspensions, and engine with a honda engine or Nissan skyline's twin turbo RB26DETT's:aok


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/Ricer.jpg)
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Post by: JB88 on September 21, 2006, 01:02:21 AM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
This afternoon sometime.

It's like freaking Christmas eve.

Good thing I am at work and not at home, I'd be climbing walls right now.


ya.  i havent had a gamable system for almost a year...finally ordered one.

i had to wait a week to get it get some work done.  (and i wanted to fly again.)  everytime i heard a car go by, i would have to fight the urge to look out the window to see if it was the UPS guy.

glad to read know that this story is turning  a happy ending.
who knows, maybe the hooker will pay you back with "massages"

note: (use a rubber)

heh,

88
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 01:10:28 AM
LMAO, as a funny side note the passenger that was in the car with me used to be a stripper.  So, that being said, I have the massage thing covered...along with my johnson!

;)
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Post by: Dnil on September 21, 2006, 01:10:30 AM
Hey diablo....did I read your location right? you are at one of the local community colleges?  Which one if I may ask, you look real familiar.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 01:17:19 AM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/david_wooderson.jpg)
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 01:18:43 AM
Wooderson is, by far, the coolest character in a movie...ever.

"Alright, alright, alright!!"
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Post by: bkbandit on September 21, 2006, 01:29:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by tikky
Those F-Bodies are cool.  If i have extra cash i'll exchange the stock tranny, suspensions, and engine with a honda engine or Nissan skyline's twin turbo RB26DETT's:aok


a skyline engine in a camaro?????????? this is why i dont talk to guys my age.
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Post by: tikky on September 21, 2006, 02:20:57 AM
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Originally posted by bkbandit
a skyline engine in a camaro?????????? this is why i dont talk to guys my age.


I hear that RB26DETT is very strong, lighter too.  If swapped, it will give better 50/50 balance.  Nissan claims RB26DETT stock produces only 280hp but in real life it produces a whopping 350 hp stock.  If you do a serious upgrade you can push it to 500-700 hp without internal mods
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Post by: rpm on September 21, 2006, 03:29:45 AM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Wooderson is, by far, the coolest character in a movie...ever.

"Alright, alright, alright!!"
Dazed and Confused was a good flick, but it wasn't Fandango good. Groovers rule.
(http://www.howboutafandango.com/fandangopics/photos/inplane7_small.jpg)
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 03:37:07 AM
Fandango...now that's a good flick as well.  Haven't found it on DVD yet.  DnC was my childhood, Wiley Wiggin's character was a little bit older than I was at the time but I went through the exact same ****.  All of the high school character were in my neighborhood though, so everytime I watch DnC it's like a memory of my youth coming back to life.  Ahhhh...the '70s.
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Post by: Debonair on September 21, 2006, 03:51:35 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-ferrari-308-ORIGINAL-SHOWROOM-CONDITION-308-11k-MILES-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ180029846418QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
(http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/68/ab/33_3.JPG)

$24.1k presently
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 03:58:42 AM
Just ran the VIN through autocheck:

 
01/18/2006  CA  131,244 miles  State Agency  PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION  
 

Something ain't kosher there.

{edit} I saw his disclaimer on the ad.  That is kind of odd too.
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Post by: Debonair on September 21, 2006, 05:03:14 AM
i wonder if the odometer is in km
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Post by: eagl on September 21, 2006, 07:00:10 AM
Don't worry about the auto trans.  My bro had a 1994 or 1995 Z28 with the auto and he loved it.  He bought a programmable shift kit for it and it had 3 settings, normal, med, hard as hell, selectable with a little control dingus he mounted next to the cig lighter.  The autos are just as fast as the manuals on the drag strip and don't wear out your left knee in rush hour traffic.

I also prefer the manual because of the type of racing I do but if I wasn't racing autox, the auto would be a good alternative.  Only downside is that the 6 speed manual overdrive gear is really really tall which helps highway fuel efficiency more than you'd expect.  If I keep it 70 or slower, I can still get 30 mpg on today's alcohol-diluted gas.  My best ever trip averaged 34 mpg between Vegas and Mt Home Idaho, but since then they changed fuel forumulas and now the best I get is 30ish.  An auto will lose 2-4 mpg on long trips.  Not that big of a deal really unless you put a LOT of miles on the car, and not wearing out your knee may be worth the extra fuel cost.
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Post by: eddiek on September 21, 2006, 08:29:40 AM
Nice looking ride, Diablo.........I haven't had the pleasure of owning one of the latter generation F-bodies, but have owned 8 of the 2nd generation and one of the 3rd generation cars.
I agree, the LS engined cars (and trucks) are pretty awesome.  My current vehicle, a 2002 HD2500 4x4, has the 6.0L engine, and if things work out the way I plan, I will be adding an STS turbo kit to it in the spring, along with some other engine mods, like better heads, change the cam, etc, and beef up the 4L80E to handle the added power.  Gonna be pulling the Vortec 350 out of my son's 1985 GMC Sierra and this winter and swapping in a complete 5.3L and related EFI setup, using MegaSquirt (just have to borrow a laptop for the tuning) so he will be kinda sorta modern when he gets his license.
Dunno what to think about the mileage discrepancy you posted above.  Now I would be suspecting fraud and be very very leery of the car.  Might do some more digging before you lay out the cash or sign anything obligating you to the car.

Just my thoughts....................
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Post by: nuchpatrick on September 21, 2006, 08:42:12 AM
Aye Eagl you going to Solo II Nationals this year?
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Post by: bkbandit on September 21, 2006, 11:19:40 AM
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Originally posted by tikky
I hear that RB26DETT is very strong, lighter too.  If swapped, it will give better 50/50 balance.  Nissan claims RB26DETT stock produces only 280hp but in real life it produces a whopping 350 hp stock.  If you do a serious upgrade you can push it to 500-700 hp without internal mods


Guy are u serious?? these things make no toruqe. I have seen a 96 skline and camaro both stock race, no contest. leave that crap in japan. I have seen 600 horse power ls1's and its common to see one run a 9 sec or better. One of the big things im starting to see is v8 in small jap cars. The toruqe throws these things down the track.  Its a joke when i see these guys in hondas with no back seats and all these mods telling me "ur v8 is too heavy, im lite ill smoke u", all they do is watch tail lights fade away. Torque is ur friend

Ls1 is a great engine and i really would like to see gm bring it back into there current production models(new camaro), but i dont agree with the price of it. I have seen plenty of camaro/trans and in the add they always put in bold ls1, and those 3 letters/number jack the price up high. it performances good, it lasts long, it is easly modded, but this is what i expect and this is what i should be geting for a cheaper price. Its a ur basic 350 small block chevy(i know its a 346) with a solid 300 horse, nothin special, and nothin thats hard or expensive to produce. If it was a huge 502 with 650 pounds of torue then i would say a word, but its just a small block, somethin that is fun to drive and fun to mod. The car makers wont to bring back muscle cars, they have to remember that they werent expensive. Just my 2 cents, i just dont like with the auto makers are doing.


Diablo check that, it looks funny. Run it through another system maybe, car fax.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: 1K3 on September 21, 2006, 05:35:26 PM
There's no replacement for displacement.  

A lightly tuned LS1 is enough to destroy the ricers and enough to compete with tuned Supras, 300Zs.

Btw on honda VTEC engines... I noticed that you get the highest peak torque at mid-higher RPMs.  It's the reason why people complain why they get no torque at low rpms
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Post by: eagl on September 21, 2006, 06:10:50 PM
No racing for me for at least another 6 months.  I've been out of the country for almost 3 years now.  6 more months in Korea and then back to TX.

When I get back, I'll start racing again.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2006, 09:54:13 PM
Ok, well, I went to do my personal inspection of the car today but when I got there was told they were doing their "quality control" inspection.  Arrgh.  This is the 3rd Carmax dealer it's been at in 5 days.  So I get back in my rental and drive around the car lots of SE Houston.  I stumble upon a lot wihth 7 f-bodies.   All automatic and all modded or abused beyond my buying limits.  It is truly like finding a needle in a haystack around here for an LS1 with a M6.  Still, I like the Z I've found at Carmax and call it a day.

That milage discrpency was for that Ferarri, not my Z.  I've already verified the background on that car.

As for the new Camaro, it's reported to be coming with an LS2, which is still in the LSX family so bk, keep yer painties unbunched.  I am going to drive this Z until the new one's come out and probably use it as a trade for a new one, 2 or 3 years after they've been out.

Still, waiting (for both cars) sucks.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: bkbandit on September 21, 2006, 10:23:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
Ok, well, I went to do my personal inspection of the car today but when I got there was told they were doing their "quality control" inspection.  Arrgh.  This is the 3rd Carmax dealer it's been at in 5 days.  So I get back in my rental and drive around the car lots of SE Houston.  I stumble upon a lot wihth 7 f-bodies.   All automatic and all modded or abused beyond my buying limits.  It is truly like finding a needle in a haystack around here for an LS1 with a M6.  Still, I like the Z I've found at Carmax and call it a day.

That milage discrpency was for that Ferarri, not my Z.  I've already verified the background on that car.

As for the new Camaro, it's reported to be coming with an LS2, which is still in the LSX family so bk, keep yer painties unbunched.  I am going to drive this Z until the new one's come out and probably use it as a trade for a new one, 2 or 3 years after they've been out.

Still, waiting (for both cars) sucks.


I have been following this car since it was unvieled in detriot last year. Its getting the ls2 and its really likely that it gets the ls7 for a zl1 model, and now there talking about a ls4 rs with 315 and a z28 ls4 with 350 horse.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: moot on September 22, 2006, 12:58:01 AM
bkbandit, there's a lot of better places to shove an inline-6 turbo..
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: nuchpatrick on September 22, 2006, 07:54:45 AM
I'll be waiting at the stop light in my 08 Dodge Challenger.  I really can't wait for the Challenger vs Camaro vs Mustang. Its not been since the late 70's since these guys have gotten to play altogether.  It will be fun!! :D
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Reynolds on September 22, 2006, 07:57:56 AM
Diablo, I can only wish you the best with your new car! Just stay away from beer and strippers! ;)
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Post by: Masherbrum on September 22, 2006, 12:14:27 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Wooderson is, by far, the coolest character in a movie...ever.

"Alright, alright, alright!!"


"You have any pot?"  No.  "Well, you'd be cooler if you did"  

I laughed my arse off when I finally watched that flick about a month ago for the first time ever.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 22, 2006, 05:33:22 PM
Ok, they're still dicking me around at the Carmax here so I decided to do another search and low and behold looka what I found.  It's in San Antonio, they have it on hold for me and I have a ride coming to get me.  Sweet!!!!

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-1.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-5.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-7.jpg)
 
Exterior Color: Blue
Interior Color: Tan Leather
Mileage: 48K
Engine: 5.7l V8 310hp
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Current Store: San Antonio

It's got the manual trans and the black and tan interior, exactly what I wanted!!!  Heading out now to get it!  Wish me luck!!
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: bkbandit on September 22, 2006, 06:01:05 PM
sweet, how much they want for it???

Whats the list of mods looking like??

Im a guy that sees a car(muscle car of course) and in the first 10 seconds already have after market parts in mind. One thing that car def needs is a hood, the one now is too plain.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Debonair on September 22, 2006, 09:01:40 PM
I remeber driving through TX in the mid 1990s & seeing the state troopers patroling Rt. 20 in Camaros.
Were those ones beefed up, or was stock goood enough?
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Masherbrum on September 23, 2006, 01:36:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
Ok, they're still dicking me around at the Carmax here so I decided to do another search and low and behold looka what I found.  It's in San Antonio, they have it on hold for me and I have a ride coming to get me.  Sweet!!!!

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-1.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-5.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/2G1FP22G022124405-7.jpg)
 
Exterior Color: Blue
Interior Color: Tan Leather
Mileage: 48K
Engine: 5.7l V8 310hp
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Current Store: San Antonio

It's got the manual trans and the black and tan interior, exactly what I wanted!!!  Heading out now to get it!  Wish me luck!!


Man I hope you get this.   Blue on these look awesome (and I'm a Ford fan for the most part).
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Debonair on September 23, 2006, 01:44:22 AM
zOMG!!1(http://www.ecardecals.com/Calvin_Chevy1.jpg)LMA0 :O
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Post by: Masherbrum on September 23, 2006, 01:50:25 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Debonair
zOMG!!1(http://www.ecardecals.com/Calvin_Chevy1.jpg)LMA0 :O


Hey!  Not cool.   Diablo will "Lee Van Cleef" you for this.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Debonair on September 23, 2006, 01:57:50 AM
the only car i ever ownd is teh Ford
if he tried that i would have to pwn him into an open grave, then his gun, hat & camaro also :furious :furious :furious :noid
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: eagl on September 23, 2006, 02:00:34 AM
Diablo,

That second one sure looks like an RS with the spoiler and skirts, not a Z-28.  Don't get ripped off :)
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 23, 2006, 02:49:44 AM
Oh man.

That's all I can say.

I called Carmax in San Antonio, talked to a sales rep and explained the situation, this is like close to 5pm.  He said, "Get here, I'll have the paperworkready, all you have to do is sign it."  

Not wanting to pass up this opportunity I called a friend, told him I'll pay him $200 cash to take me San Antone right now, and he shows up 10 mins. later.  We get there after dealing with Houston traffic at about 10 til 10.  Gregory, the salesman, has the car out front, washed and cleaned and a full tank of gas.  I look it over, pop the hood, do a walk around, start the engine.  I mean the leather is near mint.  There are no scuff marks on the door threshold, the paint looks really good.  "Ok" I said, "Let's do it."

We do the paperwork, he hands me the keys and says, "Thanks."  I look at him and tell him thanks for his patience and for helping above and beyond what the Carmax down the road was doing.  That 3 hour drive home was awesome.  That car has so much more improvements on it compared to my 96 it isn't even close.  Nary a squeak, a rattle, or any foreign noise was heard the whole time back.  The car was rock solid.  I am glad I waited, I am glad the other Carmax dicked me around.  All is well in my universe now.  As for mods, not looking past a KnN right now.  I am a believer in KISS, Keep It Stock Stupid.  But that's just me, I may have a new belief system come next week!  ;)
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: eagl on September 23, 2006, 02:59:25 AM
Is it a Z-28 or RS?  I've never seen a Z-28 with the RS body kit like that...
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 23, 2006, 03:08:02 AM
It's a Z.  That cladding is a dealer installed option IIRC.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 23, 2006, 03:23:40 AM
This is the option:

Sport Appearance Package - includes specific front and rear fascias, front air dam, lower aero ground effects and aggressive 3-piece rear spoiler


Optional on all Camaro's for 02 except for base convertibles.
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Post by: eagl on September 23, 2006, 03:34:39 AM
Ah, ok.  I've just never seen it on a Z but it seems like half of the RS cars have it, so I thought it wasn't available for the Z.
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Post by: DiabloTX on September 23, 2006, 11:31:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eagl
Ah, ok.  I've just never seen it on a Z but it seems like half of the RS cars have it, so I thought it wasn't available for the Z.


Yeah, I didn't like the "aero" package on those RS's but this one has the ridiculous "chin" spoiler deleted from the front.  I don't know how many RS's I saw with the chin spoiler broke and hanging in at least 2 places.
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Birddogg on September 23, 2006, 11:40:10 PM
Congrats DiabloTX, Its lookin real nice!!  :aok
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on September 23, 2006, 11:43:13 PM
Thanks bro!
Title: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Masherbrum on September 24, 2006, 02:48:00 AM
Serious Diablo.   I'm estatic for you.   Things do happen for a reason.  This is yet another one of those times.   Hopefully, I can get down there for a Con and check this badboy out!     Again, congrats!
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on December 05, 2008, 03:11:22 PM
Sigh...going through this, brings back some sweet memories.

Seems like only yesterday I was bringing baby home.

To paraphrase B.B. King, the thrill has most definitely not gone.
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Toof on December 05, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
I've never really owned any "overly powerful" cars aside from an 87' 5.0L Mustang. I've had some friends who have though. Some of the "rice rockets" can be just as scary to be in/drive as some of the hardcore American muscle.

Had a few friends who did the B16 header swap on their Civics, and one on a Del Sol which was absolutely dastardly.

Knew 2 guys with a Nissan 240 who did the SR20DET Japanese engine swap. Both of those would pull the "take the $20 off the dashboard and you can have it" deal no problem. One had a front mounted intercooler and you could clearly tell it had work done. The other had stock wheels, stock everything except the engine and a few minor mods (exhaust, battery relocation, etc.) BUT I don't know the exact term for it, but his intercooler was mounted at about a 45 degree angle to the engine block, it was higher up and you couldn't even see it. Besides that the speedo' didn't work while I was with him, but with 3 people in the car, he spanked numerous well decked muscle/foreign cars with NOS and without.

Had a friend with a stage 3 turbo'd VW GTI that would keep you pinned to the seat on minor acceleration in the parking lot of an apartment complex.

One of my friends who is more "in the money" had a Grand National...that was scary enough. But the car he had that he always swore scared him the most was one of the 2002-2003 Limited Edition Mustang SVT Cobra's, the ones that actually had the engine block engraved. Look at that car wrong and the back end of it went nuts on you. He went up to a Chevelle from that car.

Most fun car I've ever been in is a Honda s2000 with a stage 3 supercharger going down the grade in the mountains of Upstate SC/Lower NC. I've seen cars that will go like stink, but this thing took the cake.

Subaru STI's with a little work can be amazingly fun in the snow as well :) (except the new ones, and some of the not-so-new ones are ugly as sin)

I realize this post may be dumb (as I'm not a big car guy) but I spent the time typing it, may as well post it.

Hope you enjoy your new ride DiabloTX :D
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: superpug1 on December 05, 2008, 11:06:08 PM
wow this is an old thread, haha. Im still waiting for the Camaro. Almost have my rents, gparents, and uncle ready to help, plus the money i have saved already. Ive got my heart set on a black 1SS RS with the LS3 since its the one with the 6 speed manual
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: DiabloTX on December 06, 2008, 12:01:26 AM
I saw that the target date for release is March 9th of next year...assuming GM is still in business by then.

Oh, and, Toof, yes, I've been enjoying my new ride for the last 2 years!  And to some I've been enjoying it too much! 

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/driving.gif)
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: gunnss on December 07, 2008, 02:12:06 PM
This is what I will ride in 2011,

http://www.nmslrhs.org/images/photos/9-20-08/slides/IMG_6525.html

Grin,
Kevin
Title: Re: My new ride (hopefully).
Post by: Grayeagle on December 09, 2008, 09:28:27 AM
Man.

Toof.

If ya think puttin a header on a Civic makes a fast car .. dood .. your education is sadly lacking.
Just sayin.

'spankin american muscle' ..
I'm thinkin yer not referrin to say ..
..an L-88 *anything* or old school 426 Hemi powered *anything*
..or even any average Rat Motor in *anything* ..etc.

I know I know .. turbo this or that 4 banger can see over 200hp ..
..some have even gone over 500hp with a ton of money thrown at them.
Guess what a Hemi will do with a turbo an nitrous.
-very evil grin-

A 'stock' 426 Hemi *starts* with right at 600hp with cast iron manifolds an all.
An L-88 'stock' is about 50hp less .. right out of the box.

I know I know .. they were 'rated' at 425 and such ..LOL .. at 4200rpm.
Neither peaked hp until 6k rpm or so.. and a decent set of headers would boost both motors substantially.

When you get all done moddin the crap out of a Civic-Subaru-any 4-banger car- ..
..it's still a Civic, etc.

You know you can get one of these for less than a new Civic right?

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/my%20vette/rear34_noBSM.jpg)
330hp 'stock' and already runs 13's.

Guess what turbos and nitrous does to that?
-very evil grin-

look on:

 http://www.corvetteforum.com/

..in the C5 for sale section :)

-GE