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Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Dowding on September 20, 2006, 05:29:10 PM: Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5364982.stm)

Somehow, I think the Kurds are not going to be winning any popularity contests this year.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Neubob on September 20, 2006, 05:35:33 PM: Ah, the middle east.... The world's cornicopia of peace and prosperity.
Title: Re: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Gunslinger on September 20, 2006, 05:37:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5364982.stm)

Somehow, I think the Kurds are not going to be winning any popularity contests this year.

as if they win any now. They are the bastards of the middle east. They have more than a few of the only cities in Iraq that isn't currently fighting an insurgancy, and are enjoying being out from underneath a brutal dictator.

Yet the turks and Iraqis to the south shun them.

Good on them!
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Mini D on September 20, 2006, 05:39:03 PM: Are they training them to strap bombs to themselves and run into restaraunts?
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: detch01 on September 20, 2006, 06:15:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
Are they training them to strap bombs to themselves and run into restaraunts?

No. That is the Palestinian method, not the Isreali method.

asw
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Gunslinger on September 20, 2006, 06:24:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
Are they training them to strap bombs to themselves and run into restaraunts?

LOL
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: storch on September 20, 2006, 07:52:27 PM: good for israel. we may get a kurdistan out of this yet.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Pongo on September 20, 2006, 10:56:24 PM: probably the same training that Rumhsfeld gave sadam.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: bozon on September 21, 2006, 07:07:59 AM: The fact that there are Israelis there does not mean that Israel is training them. Ex-military personel are training different forces (military, security, body guards etc) all over the world as private merceneries. They used to be quite popular in south and center america.

Israel would have a real problem dealing with the kurds due to their relations with Turkey. Turkey has a wide military and economical cooperation with Israel and the good relationship is extremely important to Israel (not to mention very delicate). Such a thing will not be possible without their approval.

Bozon
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Squire on September 21, 2006, 07:59:37 AM: Israelis, not the IDF. They have people world wide, including arab countries that train security forces. Nothing new.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: ASTAC on September 21, 2006, 08:16:26 AM: I wouldn't care if the IDF was training them. Good for them. You can't expect a state that everybody except the US hates to not help insurgents against their enemies.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Mini D on September 21, 2006, 10:01:21 AM: The Kurds are insurgents?

Is there anyone here that thinks Israel is training the Kurds in order to overthrow the Iraqi government?
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: ASTAC on September 21, 2006, 10:15:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
The Kurds are insurgents?

They've been fighting the old Iraqi government for awhile. I would call that insurgency.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Mini D on September 21, 2006, 10:20:46 AM: I don't believe being attacked by the government constitutes insurgency. I don't believe resistance constitutes insurgency. I believe it involves having an offensive strategy.

The word is misused.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: lukster on September 21, 2006, 10:25:17 AM: Seems everyone is denying that report. Anyone actually watch that program and know what constitutes this "evidence"?
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: ASTAC on September 21, 2006, 10:46:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
I don't believe being attacked by the government constitutes insurgency. I don't believe resistance constitutes insurgency. I believe it involves having an offensive strategy.

The word is misused.

Is that all? Gee sorry...You would think the point I was trying to make would be far more important that misusing a word...But thank you.
Title: Israel is training Kurdish forces
Post by: Mini D on September 21, 2006, 10:51:27 AM: I think calling the Kurds insurgents completely negates the point you were trying to make.

Teaching the Kurds to defend themselves is somehow more newsworthy than teaching someone to plant a roadside bomb or blow up a restaraunt. That is a bit more of a point.

Of course, the real fear is that Israel will actually start getting along with someone outside of their border and prove most of Europe wrong about certain causes and effects in Israel.

The content of the article being accurate is irrelevant. The fact that it was presented in such a manner is relevant. Israel actually training Kurds to better defend themselves (weather an Israeli or the IDN) is not news worthy as a scandal. The information is not presented in a provocative manner, but rather a provoking one. That's pretty sad.