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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Furball on September 21, 2006, 03:56:09 PM
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I am going travelling for a month in January and am looking at purchasing a decent camera for scenery shots etc.
probably look to spend around £200/$400 max, not a lot but it wont see a massive amount of use apart from that month.
any suggestions?
this is the best i have found so far
http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=2081&gclid=CNb1h7LTv4cCFRWKQgodyVJ9QA
http://www.pcmediks.co.uk/p/151220/Kodak-Z650-6MP-Camera---10X-Optical-Zoom-Grade-A-E115572-.htm
thanks in advance.
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I'd stick with Canon or Nikon.
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I just bought a Canon SD600 for my Hawaii trip, very happy with the results. I'll post some shots soon.
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i already have a Casio Exilim 3.2mp compact camera for close in drunken in bar shots, it is quality for scenery etc. which i am looking for ideally.
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I'll still recommend Canon Powershot Digital Elphs -- I've used the SD200 and now the SD400, shot a couple thousand pics and the camera is always excellent.
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The Fuji Finepix 5600 and the canon powershot S2/3 has gotting some excellent reviews so they should be pretty safe bets.
I almost got the Canon instead of the DSLR myslef and sometimes i regret not doing it. It would prevent me from beeing tempted to spend alot on future lenses and junk.
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I took 600 photos on this Hawaii trip, btw. Flawless operation, the only bad shots were ones where I was asking for it (low light + motion + no tripod). It's a digital elph, just like Halo recommended.
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Got Fuji 5600 myself, perfectly satisfied for now.
The only disadvntage so far is that media, XD-picture card, is quite expensive, got 1Gb for $50 in Moscow.
Will try to post some shots soon.
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my only digital camera is a P&S, it does fine for outdoor scenery shots.
unless you're gonna get all uber with an SLR (filters, bunch of lenses, etc) its just a bigger more expensive thing to haul around, maybe save your $ for a better class of liquor instead
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The 5600 is the best of both.
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advice is much appreciated. thanks guys.
sounds like the 5600 is a safe bet!
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One of the pitfalls I see with the S5600 is the 16meg xD picture card. That's too small. You'd fill that up with 12 pics at max resolution. Buy more memory if you make this purchase, and while you're at it, buy an extra battery.
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Memory cards are extremly cheap these days. 1-2gb cards costs alot less than a night out with da boyz. Hopfully thats the case over on Furby Island too.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Memory cards are extremly cheap these days. 1-2gb cards costs alot less than a night out with da boyz. Hopfully thats the case over on Furby Island too.
A spare battery is also not only cheap, but cheap insurance for those times you turn your camera on for a great shot and say "Crap, battery is low!"
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yup!
dunno what kind of bats the 5600 uses tho
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Clean out your PM box Nilsen!
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Hi Furbie, I would personally go with a Canon but definitely with something SD card based not xD. I have an Olympus xD card camera and finding cards is a pain in the arse. Look on Amazon.co.uk - they have a memory sale at the moment - 2Gb SD's for just over 20 quid. You could get the camera at the same time.
Have a good trip
:aok
Sparks
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Clean out your PM box Nilsen!
sorry dad... room all clean now
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you think it is better paying a bit extra and getting a camera with image stabilisation?
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Originally posted by Furball
you think it is better paying a bit extra and getting a camera with image stabilisation?
If you get a camera with super zoom then yes. I have never missed it on my 4x zoom camera. With the 10-12x zoom cams I would think it makes sense.
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Do they make a digital that can, like, stop propeller blades? (short of throwing it at the plane)
Also have wondered whether the ART of photgraphy, lighting, etc is lost with digital?
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I've taken shots with frozen props before on my Canon Elphs. Also, if I take a flash photo of my wife in the shower, all of the water drops are suspended and super sharp, which nicely frames the snarl on her face as shes lunging at me.
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Speaking of SD cards, I like them a lot, but to me, they are too small to risk in lots of repeated in and out between camera and computer.
When using my Canon Digital Elph with SD card, I always use a 1-gig card with plenty of capacity, and even then after each photo session immediately transfer the photos to my computer via USB 2.0 cable.
The larger CF card in my older Nikon 995 is fine for inserting in a card reader, but even with that, whenever available I would choose a prompt USB 2.0 downloading just to avoid messing with the card any more than absolutely necessary.
And as others have said, always carry a spare battery, and a battery charger too if on a trip.
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(quote) Also, if I take a flash photo of my wife in the shower, all of the water drops are suspended and super sharp, which nicely frames the snarl on her face as shes lunging at me. (unquote)
Good one, Chairboy -- hope you're using that waterproof case too.
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Originally posted by bj229r
Do they make a digital that can, like, stop propeller blades? (short of throwing it at the plane)
Also have wondered whether the ART of photgraphy, lighting, etc is lost with digital?
The biggest issue here is light, not so much the camera.
Outdoors on a bright day you might find enough light to hit a cameras maximum shutter speed. When it’s dark and the flash is providing all of the light, drops of water can be frozen in time. For this to happen, the camera/flash must be close to the subject. Even an ordinary camera flash can dump out enough light quickly enough to stop water droplets.
A good semi-pro flash can capture a bullet within a 1/2 inch blur. In this picture below the camera’s lens was open for about three seconds in complete darkness. The flash, however, was on only on for 1/30,000 of a second and was less than 12 inches from the subject. This Spam can had been hit by a hollow point bullet about 1/1000 of a second before exposure. Picture taken in my basement in 1990.
(http://hallbuzz.com/archived_stories/spam_c.jpg)
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Wow, eskimo2, great shot!
That's kinda my reaction to Spam too.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I've taken shots with frozen props before on my Canon Elphs. Also, if I take a flash photo of my wife in the shower, all of the water drops are suspended and super sharp, which nicely frames the snarl on her face as shes lunging at me.
Allright.. Put your money where your mouth is.
Show us some evidence! :D
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wow... this seems like a really good deal...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-D50-Digital-SLR-Camera-w-28-80mm-70-300mm-Lens_W0QQitemZ160033538840QQihZ006QQcategoryZ122616QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I took 600 photos on this Hawaii trip, btw. Flawless operation, the only bad shots were ones where I was asking for it (low light + motion + no tripod). It's a digital elph, just like Halo recommended.
Motion pictures with a digital, no tripod etc
Wouldnt you be better off capturing the shot as a video then editing the still out of it you want?
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Originally posted by Furball
wow... this seems like a really good deal...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-D50-Digital-SLR-Camera-w-28-80mm-70-300mm-Lens_W0QQitemZ160033538840QQihZ006QQcategoryZ122616QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
1. First of all, be very careful about buying cameras out of New York, particularly if they are close to NYC. There are a heck of a lot of crooks out there who specialize in “selling cameras” but really just scam. Many of them have several names and change names and “locations” when their reputation catches up with them.
2. This seller, however, has great Ebay feedback and their http://www.resellerratings.com Customer Satisfaction is very good ( http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1697.html ). I would buy from them.
3. It does look like a good deal; expect the bids to go up, especially at the last minute.
4. Whatever you do, stick with Canon or Nikon. Other brands do a fine job and take good pictures if the photographer does his job. When you really compare all aspects of quality, however, Canon or Nikon consistently come out on top.
5. Megapixel – When I was shopping for my latest camera I was leery of buying anything less than a ton of MP. My new Nikon is 8 MP and I have never come close to needing that much. 6.1 MP is plenty and it will require a lot less memory per shot. I organize my family pictures by year. This year in 8 months I have already shot about 5X as much file-space of pictures with my 8mp as I did last year with my 4 mp Canon.
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Eskimo is aboslutly right.. 6MP is more than enough. I have found that its only if you get pro prints above the A4 format that you may need abit more.
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I also highly reccomend the Canon Digital Elph.
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thanks :)
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(QUOTE) Wouldnt you be better off capturing the shot as a video then editing the still out of it you want? (UNQUOTE)
That's a possibility, but although the video capability is quite good (I shot a great little Thanksgiving dinner sequence with my Elph and the excellent video quality including sound surprised several guests who always use larger separate video cameras), the best photo quality comes from still photos, which also can be shot in bursts.
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Originally posted by Halo
(QUOTE) Wouldnt you be better off capturing the shot as a video then editing the still out of it you want? (UNQUOTE)
That's a possibility, but although the video capability is quite good (I shot a great little Thanksgiving dinner sequence with my Elph and the excellent video quality including sound surprised several guests who always use larger separate video cameras), the best photo quality comes from still photos, which also can be shot in bursts.
Yea; the new Elphs capture video at 640x480 frames per second. For a still that is enough to get very good resolution. In video mode, however, the quality is greatly compressed and is not that sharp.
Here is a typical raw 640x480 frame from a movie clip. It was taken outside on a cloudy day. Frames can be sharper in brighter light, on a tripod and without movement, but this one is typical.
(http://hallbuzz.com/images/unlinked/annika_frame.jpg)