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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on September 22, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
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Has the best site I've ever listened to.
Always loved and wish I could play this style of Guitar
Esteban (http://www.estebanmusic.com/home.html?speed=broadband)
Whole bunch of different tunes are played one after the other. I've been listening to it in the back ground for at least a half hour now.
Can also move to the next tune.
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Great guitarist and musician, but his guitar packages are complete and utter trash... most of the time.
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Originally posted by United
Great guitarist and musician, but his guitar packages are complete and utter trash... most of the time.
The Guitar is garbage? or the package overall is?
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I think Drediock, he meant the whole package would be good for an absolute noob to guitar, but any advancement is dead in the water.
Looking at them, they look like the First Act brand that is sold at stores like Wal Mart, a bunch of accesories but the instrument is probably crap anyway. To each their own though.
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That is great stuff. What style would you call that? Spanish guitar? Classical guitar?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
That is great stuff. What style would you call that? Spanish guitar? Classical guitar?
He uses a Classical I believe (nylon strings).
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Originally posted by United
Great guitarist and musician, but his guitar packages are complete and utter trash... most of the time.
I disagree!!! for 100 bucks the guitar is a great beginner guitar. It stays tuned nearly perfect all the way up the neck. I bought one for just goofing around as I used to play when I was a kid. FOR THE PRICE, you will not beat this guitar.
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Originally posted by nirvana
I think Drediock, he meant the whole package would be good for an absolute noob to guitar, but any advancement is dead in the water.
Looking at them, they look like the First Act brand that is sold at stores like Wal Mart, a bunch of accesories but the instrument is probably crap anyway. To each their own though.
Look, when you buy 100 dollar guitar, you are not touring the continent. That guitar is the one he uses in his infomercials. Its all about staying in tune up and down the neck. You can put 100,000 dollars worth of sound equipment on a guitar and make it sound like anything you want as long as it can be tuned up and down the neck. imprecise Fret spacing and neck warping will cause a guitar to be in tune at the bottom and out of tune at the octave or upper neck by the box. I have purchased an estaban guitar and was absolutely stunned at what I had bought for 100 bucks. Now the amp (add another 100 bucks) is nothing to write home about, but the guitar is remarkable FOR 100 BUCKS. I recommend it for any beginner or goof around or get one for the kid.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Look, when you buy 100 dollar guitar, you are not touring the continent.
Someone should pick this up as sig material! :rofl :rofl
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Whats the fingering like?
Was thinking about picking up the guitar again after....30 years (Used to screw aroudn with just basic cords, thus...I sucked but I had fun)
I have a $300 Guitar now I HATE cause I'd need vise grip strength fingers to press the strings down and hold them there.
Think I have mentioned this on another thread about a year or so ago.
I had asked for a specific guitar I saw in a Mom & Pop Music shop when I bought my son his electric.
Was used for like $100.
Fingering was real easy to deal with. Sounded GREAT to my ears anyway.
Xmas rolls around and I get handed this guitar bag and Im thinking Cool
Unfortunately I pull it out and its not the one I wanted but one for 3 times the price and doesnt feel nearly as comfortable. and the fingering is real hard.
One of my sons friends was over who is actually damn good on the guitar and he didnt like it either for the same reasons.
Now my daughter (going on 10) is sayig she wuld like ot learn how to play
Im the type that encourages the arts And both my kids I make sure have a good appreciation of all music ranging from classical to modern music (Rap & Hiphop excluded)
Anyway. I know for kids if they have an interest in doing something. It has to be easy enough for them to maintain an interest in and want to do again.
Now if I am having problems holding the strings down tight enough to play even basic chords and notes clearly. And I know its neither easy, nor fun for me
I know its not going to be easy enough or fun for a 10 year old
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Well, I have to admit its a bit tight on the fingering, but you can always tune it lower than normal until your fingers get back into shape. I have an old gibson elctric guitar to compare it with though, so I cant give you an accurate assessment compared to other acoustics. I would say, for a beginner or a hobbyist, tight fingering can only serve to improve the dexterity and precision during rapid chord changes and when you or your kids are ready to move up, they will appreciate the finger workout. Having said this, it is just barely noticeable on my estaban guitar and I dont consider it an issue. I went maybe 10 years in between guitars and really only took me a month or so to get back into shape. Quite surprising. I should have been a rock star:cry
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ESTEBAN WAS EATEN!!!
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DREDILOCK,
For $300 that guitar should have a decent action and intonation. I Bet you just have to make an adjustment at the bridge. If you don't feel like messing with that stuff you can take it to a guitar shop, and they'll set it up really nice for you, usually for a small fee.
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My dad has been playin since he was 16. I have been trying to get into for about 20 years but never got the bug. About 20 years ago he bought a real nice martin and tells me that it keeps sounding better with age. A few weeks ago he told be that when he dies it's mine... thats aways an uncomfortable conversation with your parents. Im thinking I should really start learning to play if I'm going to get that. Also, I'd like to play it at his funeral.. I think he'd like that.
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I was reading his interesting bio while a live track was playing in the background...My kid was sitting in a reclining chair behind me watching.
After the song ended i turned around and he was sound asleep..lol
Ya..the man can play.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I have a $300 Guitar now I HATE cause I'd need vise grip strength fingers to press the strings down and hold them there.
Sounds like too much relief on the neck(curve)...i adjusted a friend's Godin accoustic last month cause he was saying it was too hard to finger.
Break out the allen wrench and turn counter-clockwise until the neck straightens to the point that u get slight buzzing on the frets...Then turn other way till buzzing gone.
The action should be much lower and the strings much easier to press down when fingering chords.
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edit...Turn wrench clockwise
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I'll have to give that a try.
thanks
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Originally posted by SirLoin
I was reading his interesting bio while a live track was playing in the background...My kid was sitting in a reclining chair behind me watching.
After the song ended i turned around and he was sound asleep..lol
Ya..the man can play.
Was the song "Al Di La"?
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Sounds like too much relief on the neck(curve)...i adjusted a friend's Godin accoustic last month cause he was saying it was too hard to finger.
Break out the allen wrench and turn counter-clockwise until the neck straightens to the point that u get slight buzzing on the frets...Then turn other way till buzzing gone.
The action should be much lower and the strings much easier to press down when fingering chords.
DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
Sorry, but I've seen many guitars that have been completely trashed and/or broken because someone overtightened the truss rod (the actual piece that the allen wrench adjusts). What many don't realize is that it doesn't take much to make a huge difference. When I say much, I mean not even half of a turn. It also won't be an instantly noticeable change. Once the truss rod has been adjusted, it takes a week or so for the wood to settle into its final position.
Many folks just crank and crank until they notice the neck bending. Then, when theyre playing, the neck just snaps right in half.
You're best bet is to take the guitar to your local tech and have him/her do it for you. You'll pay about $60-$70, but its definately worth it in the long run. Even if you don't keep playing, your kids may want to pick it up.
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Originally posted by United
DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
Sorry, but I've seen many guitars that have been completely trashed and/or broken because someone overtightened the truss rod (the actual piece that the allen wrench adjusts). What many don't realize is that it doesn't take much to make a huge difference. When I say much, I mean not even half of a turn. It also won't be an instantly noticeable change. Once the truss rod has been adjusted, it takes a week or so for the wood to settle into its final position.
Many folks just crank and crank until they notice the neck bending. Then, when theyre playing, the neck just snaps right in half.
You're best bet is to take the guitar to your local tech and have him/her do it for you. You'll pay about $60-$70, but its definately worth it in the long run. Even if you don't keep playing, your kids may want to pick it up.
^^^What he said. Word for word.
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Mmmmmmaybe I'll just bring it back to the store and sell it back to em andget one I feel comfortable with right form the get.
Its mint condidtion and still in its case.
Hasn been played more then literally 5-6 times.
then maybe for only a few minutes at a clip