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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on November 15, 2001, 02:29:00 PM
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"I love the nightlife, I love to boogie..."
(http://www.olsommer.com/bushlogo1g.gif)
:)
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(http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1722739&a=13481405&p=56415726)
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i thought it was "i love the nightlife, i love the boogie"
i like to think of it as THE boogie :D i love THE boogie baby owww
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heh, not sure, never paid too much attention to Disco lyrics because I always had my Pink Floyd or Led Zepplin cranked up too loud. :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
heh, not sure, never paid too much attention to Disco lyrics because I always had my Pink Floyd or Led Zepplin cranked up too loud. :D
I was too busy playing pong or atari :) on them disco niiiiiiiiights yeah.
:D
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Wars are almost always good for a politician's popularity. Nothing new here.
It's why Maggie Thatcher defended the Falklands.
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It's also why that moron Galtieri invaded the Falklands in the first place.
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LMAO that 2nd pic made me spit little chunks of turkey and stuffing on my monitor. Thanks alot Rip.
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True, Hangtime.
A waste of good lives over some freezing piece of rock.
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and dont forget the huge oil reserve thought to be deep under the falklands that presently is thought to be too deep for our current drilling technology.
Some estimate there is enough oil under there to supply the worlds petrol needs for some 10 years.
worthless peice of freezing rock eh? :)
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What Dowding said.
For example, Giuliani's also benefited from these unfortunate events. I've always sorta liked the guy, but it was something to see many of his historical detractors praise him. Weird, but nice. :)
It's just like what happened to Dubya's dad during Desert Shield/Desert Storm. These sorts of events tend to get the population rallying around their leaders. When things settle down a bit things we'll see what happens (anyone remember the economy or the potential erosion of civil rights?).
Also, keep in mind that before this all went down, Dubya's rating was around or below 50%, depending on which poll you looked at.
Besides, high approvals don't mean that the boy has become any more competent or intelligent than he when he was before these unfortunate happenings. Regardless, let's all be glad that Cheney's running the show from at least 5 miles away. :)
Anyhow, I hear ya' on the Zep and Floyd! :)
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..and his reduction of the nuke arsenal?
Without years of negotiation?
Any complaints?
Or is this a bad thing and I just don't realize that?
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Originally posted by Toad:
[QB]..and his reduction of the nuke arsenal?
Without years of negotiation?
QB]
These speeches were positive, but the negotiations have yet to happen because there's been no attempt to formalize this into an international agreement. As I read it, both parties agree that getting rid of up to two-thirds of their Cold War-era long-range nuclear arsenals would be a good thing, but there are disagreements as to the details. I would guess that Dubya's priority for these talks was the ABM/NMD issue, which was not resolved.
And, given the current situation, I don't know if this would even register on Dubya's popularity meter (he can't get much higher). Hell, I bet many people are unaware of it, which is a shame.
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Well, GW's the boss and he said at his press conference that WE were gonna just do it.
So this is a BAD thing?
Still leaves us with 2000+, IIRC.
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Yep, Bush had been considering significant reductions (w/o similar Russian reductions) before these talks. That seems fine by me, of course, it's not OUR nukes that we should necessarily be worried about. :( ~2,200 long-range warheads seems like it would be enough, but M.A.D. strategizing (or is it strategerizing now? - j/k) isn't my area of expertise. :)
I don't know what this has to do with Dubya's current approval ratings, though, since those pretty clearly due to other circumstances.
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I thought it was. I love the night life. I love the booty. Guess that was just me. Hopelessly straight, in a PC world.
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Let's see if Bush jr. can repeat his father's phenomenal success trying to get on second term after succesful war :D
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"Let's see if Bush jr. can repeat his father's phenomenal success trying to get on second term after succesful war "
Sitting back and throwing rocks again, Jochen?? Waiting for "bad" things to happen so you can gloat over American(particularly Conservative American) failures? Do you ever see a positive outcome or is your negativist attitude just part and parcel of being a Leftist/Socialist Liberal??
The biggest loser of the '92 Election was the American People. Through public apathy and a quirk(Perot) Clinton won an election, and the rest is embarrasing history.
Who knows, but my guess is that President Bush will crush whatever Liberal-weanie candidate the Democrats(who will use their usual Race-Baiting, Class Warfare, All-Conservatives-are-Nazis tactics) throw into the next election.
BTW, Jochen, how's that crow taste??
Cabby
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: Cabby44 ]
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Extreme liberalism died,in this country, the second that first plane slammed into that first tower. It is a Golly-geen shame it took something that horrible to wake this country up. But we have woke up.
I know! They are still making nosies. But they are being eye balled, by anybody that has the capacity to think.
Hell. Heroldo is moving to Fox News. How weird is that?
Even liberals are beginning to wonder why clinton did nothing, when bin laden was offered to him by the Sudanese. Or when Americans were killed aboard the U.S.S. Cole, in Somalia, at the African embassy.
The first time the WTC was attacked, clinton could have done exactly what President Bush has done. All clinton lacked was any leadership ability. And of course he would have been forced to borrow his balls back from hillary.
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
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Question for you easymo. Who's administration trained and supported Bin Laden and of what political persuasion was he?
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The first time the WTC was attacked, clinton could have done exactly what President Bush has done. All clinton lacked was any leadership ability. And of course he would have been forced to borrow his balls back from hillary.
easymo
Exactly which critical overseas bases would we have operated from during this time frame? It's like saying we should just go out and acheive world peace tomorrow -- great idea until you start looking at the details.
As I stated in another post, the decline of "human intelligence" predates the Reagan years. Nor was there any particularly pressure for more action related to these events, even from mainstream Republicans. There were practical impediments to firmer action before Sept. 11 that have since disappeared. It wasn't an issue in the last election and wouldn't be now without the events of Sept. 11. Nor was Bush moving in Middle Eastern affairs with any firmness before that date.
And he is still focused on SDI, which is not in the best interest of the military or the American people. Strategic studies have shown that any SDI system below 100 percent effectiveness does little to influence the agressor, or make the defenders job wany easier. But our massive retailatory capability -- MAD -- does as it has for 50 years. Washington is Washington, that's why I would have voted for McCain if he had made it past the primaries. I disagreed with many of his policies, but at least he gave an indication that he wanted to cut the corporate cash out of politics.
Charon
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: Charon ]
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America raised, nertured, an gave military training to Timothy Mcvehy. So what? A loony, is a loony.
I guess we should have had toad consult with miss Cleo
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
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Charon. They are called C V"s
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As noted in the strategic analyst site, our CV strength is faily weak when applied for such an operation. Another 10 carriers or so and perhaps we can generate an effective sortie rate.
Charon
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They are bonceing rocks over there. What we have was adequate. Of course, that is hind site.
My main point is that it is the leadership of Bush and his administration that has formed the alliance. About the only place anyone would follow clinton, is into a nudie bar. And then, only if there was no cover charge.
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My main point is that it is the leadership of Bush and his administration that has formed the alliance. About the only place anyone would follow clinton, is into a nudie bar. And then, only if there was no cover charge.
I think Bush has done a fine job, make that an excellent job at adapting to and handling a very difficult task. I just think his job has been a lot easier to do given the scope of the WTC attack. By the same token, I think Clinton was an effective international politician and he seemed able to get enemies (N. Ireland, Middle East) to the table, though, without continuous effort the gains have withered away in the past year or so. The belated bombing campaign in Yugoslavia (sp?) got solid results in the face of political opposition at home. A bit late, perhaps, but I have to lay the blame at Europe's feet for that.
I don't think either party, or any politician, lives up to the “ideal” they project to their supporters. To be a successful politician of any stripe you have to be a politician first, which means a willingness to expediently compromise ideals and play with the truth as needed – you can’t make it all the way otherwise. Mr. Smith didn't really make it to Washington in the 1940s, and he sure the hell can't today.
If you got rid of every politician who had a BJ from an aggressive young admirer, or put his or her political interest above the common good in all but the direst of situations, Washington would become a ghost town :) Hell, look at the latest economic stimulus package, a lot more "gimmee" than patriotism there by both parties, and with our budget surplus a thing of the past it’s a bit scary.
It’s like professional wrestling -- both parties need an “evil” to rally their supporters on election day. In the end, the myth is better than the reality. I believe middle class Republicans are about as well served by their party as the inner city poor are served by the Democrats -- which is not very much at all. And I trust them all about as far as I can throw them.
Charon
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What a bunch of brainless Rush LimBites!
That said, I am one of the MAJORITY of Americans to vote for the other guy AND I'm sure we are better off with Bush. I am happy with the job Dubya has done. I was thinking about GWB the other day when it hit me.........He is freakin Truman in a Republican blue suit. No nonsense. Straight from the hip. Calls em as he sees em. Maybe just what this counrty needs about now. Glad he's my President.
Now why don't all you Limbites who have been trying unsuccessfully for 8 years of the most prosperous economy in our country's history to hang a rats tail on Clinton give it up.
(flicks the bait to avoid that stump........)
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Well written Cheron
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Dowding you just put out the party line, dont ya comrade.....
I was talking to this awful little communist socialist vegetarian non car driving USA hating leftist "peace protestor" squeak (she put up the sign " AMERICA MADE THE FIRST STRIKE, NOT OSAMA BIN LADEN") at my school. And she just rattled that same line, "but didnt we support bin laden in afghanistan against the soviets".... WHO GIVES A diddly if we supported him when we were allies, just because somebody who used to be your friend turns on you and tries to kill you doesnt change the fact that that THEY TRIED to KILL you and that you have to deal with them now. Does it corade? What whoopee difference does it make if we helped him when we were on the same side? Now we are not on the same thanks to his betray of us! If anything we should be even more pissed about it!
Honestly Dowding is there some "I hate the USA" newsletter that all you bastards get because every single one of your degenerate kind ive talked to recently has the same diddlying lines over and over again.
Pathetic................ :mad:
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". I believe middle class Republicans are about as well served by their party as the inner city poor are served by the Democrats -- which is not very much at all"
Why should i expect the Government to "serve" me at all? I'm for paying my share of taxes to provide for the common defense and to help little old ladies and hungry children, but i mainly want the Government to leave me the f*** alone.
The rest of the population can get off it's bellybutton and support themselves. Enough of this "We're the Government, we're here to help you" BS. The Democrats cynically promise their minions a free lunch while stealing money from society's producers.
At least the Republicans want to curb Federal spending, reduce taxes, and keep a strong military. The idiot Liberal Democrats were AGAINST every piece of weaponry used in Iraq, Kosovo, and now Afghanistan and were willing to fund every stupid Social Program that some Socialist dreamt up. Tell me who is poorly "served" by their political party again. Don't put MY party in the same boat as those Welfare State Liberal Democrat morons.........
Cabby
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Gut. I am more of an Oreillybite then a limbite. However I have a suprise for ya. I would BE a Democrat, if the party that President Truman headed still existed. The real Democratic party disappeared when Joe Kennedy BOUGHT the Presidential nomination for his son. This according to Harry Truman himself, in his biography.
BTW. President Truman was outraged at Gen. Eisenhower dalliance with his jeep driver. You can well imagine what he would have thought of slick willie.
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
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Originally posted by easymo:
It is a Golly-geen shame it took something that horrible to wake this country up. But we have woke up.
[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]
well said mate, What the rest of the world including these lunatic terrorists fail to contemplate with all their speeches of America is evil etc is that America does sleep between all these conflicts and they should be damn well thankfull to their god that they do sleep and are a peacefull nation.
If America was an aggressor militarily like the Nazi party of world war 2 nobody could stop them.No amount of praying would stop nukes would it?
I think these damn terrorists should count theirselvs lucky America isnt like them.
If Osama bin laden is the chosen one why does he run and hide? Why doesnt his so called pure faith give him the courage to stand and fight?
These people are the lowest of the low.Cowering behind desperate people, twisting their minds, only to leave them to their fate when they themselves are threatened.
In the UK certain muslims have actually left to fight in Afghanistan.Aparently the country they see fit to live in and earn money in is the spawn of the devil right? Well if they know that to be true what the diddly are they here for?
We'll welcome these brave warriors of osama's back after the war.We got some lovely apartments for them at the tower of London! and a nice hot lead celebratory meal for those diddlyin traitors.
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IDEA!!!!!!!!!
Lets capture bin laden take him to the falkands and let him capture it. Then we take them back and claim them as our own. Im a genius. No not really just kidding.
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I'm just going to interject a thought here that's been bugging me. Patriotism is back, we're rallying around our President, yet...
We have people who refuse to hang the flag, dont want to recite the pledge of allegience, and find the Star Spangled banner is "offensive". These kinds of people, who are so worried about what some itty bitty minority eill think/feel royally piss me off.
To those that have made the headlines, refusing to allow flags to be hung, etc etc, those folks should get the hell out. If our wonderful country and its symbols of pride are so offensive to them and their egos, then why not get out?
Its been an enlightenng past few months, finding out who the real Americans are.
Anyone else been tempering this rage as well?
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You're not worth the time to write a reply grunherz.
This 'You communst bastard' stuff is getting really old, remarkably fast.
You can't seem to accept that I'm not a communist. I'm not even that socialistic.
But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good character assasination!
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LePaul,
Just curious here. I fly the flag, and I have received those e-mails about the PC crowd refusing the fly the flag and all. I have never seen one credible story on any news service or in any newspaper coroborating any of those stories. What evidence do you have that this is happening?
Don't forget the freedoms we are fighting to protect.
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Tah GUt Watch the O'Reilly Factor on FoxNewsChannel every night, i guarentee you ittle be the best talk show youve ever seen or will se i love it.