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Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: G0ALY on September 26, 2006, 08:01:36 PM
With Halloween coming, how about resurrecting the FRANKENPLANE!… The Fisher XP-75GM Eagle. Just like Frankenstein it was built of parts from other bodies… Tailplane of the SBD, Wings of the P40, Landing gear of the F4U.

(http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/goalyeb/images/75.jpg)
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Bogie603rd on September 27, 2006, 09:52:25 AM
If anyone has it, it would be hitech. During winter time he flies the slay, why not this model during halloween?
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Yoshimbo on September 27, 2006, 11:54:22 AM
what in the? excatly, what was the purpose of this "frankenplane"?  and....why? why create this...abomination?
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: richard_rd on September 27, 2006, 01:34:21 PM
HiTech should have a Ghost, Goblin, Witch, and the Great Punkin flying around on Halloween night.  And if you shoot any of them down you get awarded 1000 Perkies  :) :) :)
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 27, 2006, 03:13:34 PM
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Originally posted by richard_rd
HiTech should have a Ghost, Goblin, Witch, and the Great Punkin flying around on Halloween night.  And if you shoot any of them down you get awarded 1000 Perkies  :) :) :)


But the Great Pumpkin would never show up. :)
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: SMIDSY on September 27, 2006, 04:23:16 PM
or a Lanc-sized burning jack-o-lantern that eats planes?
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Bogie603rd on September 27, 2006, 05:32:01 PM
I'd have to think the 1,000 perks are only worth it if he's a flying tiger! Now we really have to move a notion to get the wish for bombs to blow up on people passed.:rolleyes:
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Charge on September 28, 2006, 03:56:24 AM
Or something like this?

http://www.minitots.com/store/detail~-Kids-Pedal-Airplane---U-S--Army-Patrol_1962.htm

It does lack a 20mm gatling but that would be easy to add...

:D

-C+

PS. They even have the HOG!!

http://www.minitots.com/store/detail~Airflow-Collectibles--Corsair-Pedal-Plane-by-Airflow-Collectibles-_76.htm
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: thndregg on September 28, 2006, 07:42:43 AM
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Originally posted by richard_rd
HiTech should have a Ghost, Goblin, Witch, and the Great Punkin flying around on Halloween night.  And if you shoot any of them down you get awarded 1000 Perkies  :) :) :)


I don't think I want HiTech on a (broom) stick. :huh
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Bogie603rd on September 28, 2006, 08:42:35 AM
Especially if he has turbo-boosters as the broom fibers!
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: J_A_B on September 28, 2006, 01:32:39 PM
"what in the? excatly, what was the purpose of this "frankenplane"? and....why? why create this...abomination?"

It was supposed to have exceptional performance and long range.  The P-75 failed to meet expectations and was cancelled after roughly a half dozen of them were built.

If you think the P-75 looks ugly, look up stuff like the XP-55.  The USAAF focusing so much effort on so many failed designs is partly why actual successful programs like the P-51 were delayed so long.

J_A_B
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: CLW81Z on September 29, 2006, 01:54:45 PM
It reminds me alot of the P-63
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: mussie on September 30, 2006, 09:57:12 PM
Man thats smurfy
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ce/Curtiss-XP-55-Ascender-2788.jpg/250px-Curtiss-XP-55-Ascender-2788.jpg)
XP-55
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: nirvana on September 30, 2006, 11:31:26 PM
Yeah but imagine running into that in combat Mussie:O
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Ball on October 01, 2006, 06:24:44 AM
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/4080.jpg)
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: scottydawg on October 01, 2006, 07:10:04 AM
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"what in the? excatly, what was the purpose of this "frankenplane"? and....why? why create this...abomination?"

It was supposed to have exceptional performance and long range.  The P-75 failed to meet expectations and was cancelled after roughly a half dozen of them were built.

If you think the P-75 looks ugly, look up stuff like the XP-55.  The USAAF focusing so much effort on so many failed designs is partly why actual successful programs like the P-51 were delayed so long.

J_A_B


Sorry man, gotta call BS on the last statement. From order spec to first flight on the P51 was 178 DAYS. Unheard of in those days.

The crazy designs and such were usually mid-war or later, when the generals were making nutso requirement criteria for new designs.
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: AWwrgwy on October 01, 2006, 02:03:50 PM
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"what in the? excatly, what was the purpose of this "frankenplane"? and....why? why create this...abomination?"

It was supposed to have exceptional performance and long range.  The P-75 failed to meet expectations and was cancelled after roughly a half dozen of them were built.

If you think the P-75 looks ugly, look up stuff like the XP-55.  The USAAF focusing so much effort on so many failed designs is partly why actual successful programs like the P-51 were delayed so long.

J_A_B


I've read two versions of the story behind this plane comming into being.  Built by General Motors, They :

A. Just wanted the Government money for development, or

B. They had no desire to build a fighter and threw this together to get the government off their backs.

But, I may be mistaken,

wrngway
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Yoshimbo on October 02, 2006, 07:20:40 PM
hey, ball...question:


WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS THAT, THAT, THAT THING! THAT ABOMINATION! GOOD LORD!

Don't tell me some poor sould had to climb into and fly that deathtrap and fly it into combat!:O

bout a -10 on the "looks" scale for planes IMO
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Billy Joe Bob on October 02, 2006, 08:37:28 PM
i think i saw it in another topic.... some sort of beach strafing plane.
Title: FRANKENPLANE... (For Holloween!)
Post by: Ball on October 03, 2006, 03:04:41 AM
Westland P-12.

It was intended as already mentioned as a beach strafer in the event that England was invaded.  Tail was intended to give a wide field of fire, could fly very slow over the landing grounds and shoot anything that moved!

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The Westland Lysander was a sturdy aircraft with STOL abilities, generally used for army co-operation work. By late 1940 it was obsolescent, but production was extended until 1942 in the belief that new uses could be found for the type.

Uses were found, ranging from target towing with training units to special operations. The Lysander was especially suitable for clandestine delivery of Allied agents into France, and 419 Flight, RAF (later 1419 Flight) made use of the type until late 1941, when, after becoming 138 Squadron, it only had two, operating from Tangmere in great secrecy.

As far back as 1939, thought had been given to a patrolling night-fighter version of the Lysander. Tests with a belly gun pack of four .303 in. machine guns on L4673 were halted after a flying accident, early in the year. Next, a Boulton-Paul "A" Mk. III power-driven turret was installed in the observer's position of Lysander P1723 for tests which took took place later in 1939.

The concept of a turret night-fighter version of the Lysander culminated in the curious "Experimental Aeroplane No. 136". Late in 1940, a further attempt was made to fit a turret, this time according to the French Delanne formula. This meant fitting a second wing in tandem to the main one - effectively a much enlarged tailplane - with end-plate fins and rudders. The aircraft became a kind of hybrid, an army-co-operation aircraft with a "generic" heavy bomber tail unit.

The aircraft underwent trials in the winter of 1940-41. Lysander K6127 was by now fitted with a Bristol Perseus XII engine. Radical changes to the rear fuselage enabled a mock-up of a four-gun Nash & Thompson turret to be installed, made of plywood and perspex and having a very light framework. The overall length of the aircraft became 25 feet 7 inches. It was hoped the design would develop into an effective night-fighter, or at least a gunnery trainer. However, the Lysander turret night-fighter, despite successful flight trials, remained a one-off experiment.

K6127 was later used for communication tests, and in the Welkin program, before being broken up in 1944. Lysanders, apart from more regular roles, served on as experimental platforms. Few Lysanders lasted beyond WW.2, some surviving briefly as crop sprayers. By the late 1960s only two remained intact, one in England and another in Canada.