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Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 29, 2006, 01:02:59 AM
(http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/Rommels_Retreat_D.jpg)

      Ive been thinking of this for a little while now and thought it would be fun to try in the AvA. This would take more than just a few people, so read it over, and let me know what you think.

      If it sounds do-able, we can try to get people involved so its a good sized mission.

      This would have to be a 1 life thing to work right. Oldman I'd need alot help with it.  :) Maybe we could figure a way out of 1 lif limit. Maybe just 1 life for GVs, and unlimited air. Supplies would figure in greatly...rear guard action..cool stuff.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Reynolds on September 29, 2006, 03:43:59 AM
Dates and times please ;)
Title: Re: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Oldman731 on September 29, 2006, 08:22:53 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
This would have to be a 1 life thing to work right.  

One life we've done once before.  You can adjust the settings so that you are resurrected after a specific time lapse - five minutes, ten minutes, whatever.  It might be a good idea to just keep people down for awhile, with the ability to re-up, so that they can't affect the present situation but they don't have to leave the arena for the night.  You'll decide.  As far as I can recollect, you can't vary the resurrection time between vehicles, aircraft and boats.

This is a great idea.  We can put the Tunisia map and plane set in motion in less than fifteen minutes, so don't worry about that.  I'm assuming it will take a few days at least for you to work all this out.

- oldman
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 29, 2006, 08:50:03 AM
Ya it will take a few days. Mainly to spread the word to get people in it. Thanks for the reply on the other thread btw :)

  How about after the ground vehicles launch, you destroy the VH at each base, and the dead GV guys become pilots unlimited lives?

   Also, as the mission progresses, the allies will have further to fly, but I think that will be the reward to the axis as they get closer to home. I dont want them whacked right off the bat.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 29, 2006, 08:53:52 AM
No date yet. Still workin it out.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Furball on September 29, 2006, 10:14:13 AM
sounds good... i think you need bostons though as level bombers though, RAF medium bombers were used extensively in N Africa to harass convoys.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 29, 2006, 12:43:37 PM
Im trying to avoid using bombs and just want the convoy to be whittled at by Hurri 4omm., and chased down by the faster moving allies.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Kongkyuk on September 30, 2006, 10:59:52 AM
Sounds fun:aok  I'll be looking forward to it
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Easyscor on September 30, 2006, 11:05:11 AM
You have two choices, after the launch, disable the GVs you want to eliminate or set DownTimeMult to 200 and kill all the appropriate VHs after the launch, either way you won't have to worry about more GVs of a type you don't want. That way you keep everyone in the arena upping planes after the GV run.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 30, 2006, 09:30:32 PM
That sounds good Easy.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on September 30, 2006, 09:33:30 PM
Maybe 2-3 Bostons max with small ord. Have to keep them alive. Once gone, they have to re-up hurri2d no ord.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: sparow on October 02, 2006, 05:28:31 PM
Looks good. Set a time and a day and let's have a go at it. Better in Sundays, especially after CE events.

Sparrow
249 Sqn RAF "Gold Coast"
Title: WTG
Post by: lurch1 on October 03, 2006, 05:14:22 PM
If you keep doin this filth,you might actually get people in AVA again. Instead of keeping a down time,maybe it can be a 60/40 split like the last mission from thurs.just an idea,i'll shut up. lookin forward to that mission. and again,THANKS FILTH.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 03, 2006, 10:23:21 PM
Oldman since so much rides on your being there, would  Thursday Oct 12 @ 10pm et be ok with you?

    If so we have from now till then to come up with the plan. AND to get as many people in this as possible. If you know a tanker, get him interested.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Oldman731 on October 04, 2006, 07:22:51 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Oldman since so much rides on your being there, would  Thursday Oct 12 @ 10pm et be ok with you?

    If so we have from now till then to come up with the plan. AND to get as many people in this as possible. If you know a tanker, get him interested.

I'll give that a preliminary "yes."  Will confirm this evening, but barring unforeseen problems that looks like a fine night.

I've seen the 325th people doing practice GV missions in the arena this week - Joedog, BadBME, Kuhn, those folks - if you see one or more of them, yell.

- oldman (BTW:  When did Rommel ever get T-55s?)
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 04, 2006, 10:15:37 AM
Those are PZIV from the hanger screen in AH :P
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: sparow on October 09, 2006, 05:37:58 PM
Hi,

Is Thursday, 12, 10 PM the definitive date? Where will it be? And 10 PM GMT or other time zone? We're flying from Europe...

Thanks,

Sparow
249 Sqn RAF "Gold Coast"
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 09, 2006, 11:44:01 PM
Yes plan to be in the AvA at 10pm thursday night. 10-12
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Oldman731 on October 10, 2006, 07:02:52 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Yes plan to be in the AvA at 10pm thursday night. 10-12

Filth, what settings will you want?

And is it time to let people know about this?

- oldman
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 10, 2006, 08:59:34 AM
Hi OM, the settings should be MA standards. The units available are those listed above, but with one addition. The allies will have 3 Bostons available to them. The Bostons if lost will have to re-up as Hurri2d.

   The following bases should be turned off

A21
V37
A26
V47
A24
A2
A50
A30
V51

     A34 will be axis. Ord off
     A31 will be Allied Ord on for Bostons only, until Bostons are lost. Then disable ord at A31.

    This will be a 1 hour mission. Any axis unit not back to A34 at end, will be considered lost.

  Victory conditions:
If 3/4 to all Axis RTB A34 safely -Major Axis Victory
If 1/2 rtb-  Draw
If 1/4 or less rtb Major allied victory

   We will run this according to pic above. Each team needs half its guys in GVs and 1/2 in planes. (only 3 in bostons NO FORMATIONS)
Once dead in a GV you must up as either hurri2d or a 109e.

Unlimited lives in fighters.

Please announce this...Rommel's Retreat @ 10pm et Thurs. 10-12 in the AvA

Thanks!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: SkyChimp03 on October 10, 2006, 10:09:25 AM
ahh looks good..:D
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Nightshift82 on October 10, 2006, 11:36:59 AM
it's things like this makes keeping the account active totally worth while :aok
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Kermit de frog on October 10, 2006, 12:22:18 PM
I'm IN!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 11, 2006, 01:05:48 AM
Did some testing tonight. Panzers will die from hurri2d so use of terrain will be important. 109e and hurri2d are gonna be fun!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Hap on October 11, 2006, 01:19:56 AM
filth, great work.  really makes me want to particiapte.

hap
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Oldman731 on October 11, 2006, 07:39:34 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Hi OM, the settings should be MA standards. The units available are those listed above, but with one addition. The allies will have 3 Bostons available to them. The Bostons if lost will have to re-up as Hurri2d.

We can disable Bostons after three of them take off - you'll need to make sure that someone does a count and lets people know when that's occurred.

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  The following bases should be turned off

A21
V37
A26
V47
A24
A2
A50
A30
V51

We can set them to the neutral side (can't remember what it is in this setup).  If there's time enough, we can disable all aircraft, vehicles and field guns there, too.

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A34 will be axis. Ord off
     A31 will be Allied Ord on for Bostons only, until Bostons are lost. Then disable ord at A31.

I may be missing something, but I don't think there's a way to disable ordnance, per se, and certainly not for a given type.  We can disable any or all aircraft and vehicles, but not just the ordnance.  (Someone let me know if I'm wrong!)

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This will be a 1 hour mission. Any axis unit not back to A34 at end, will be considered lost.

  Victory conditions:
If 3/4 to all Axis RTB A34 safely -Major Axis Victory
If 1/2 rtb-  Draw
If 1/4 or less rtb Major allied victory

   We will run this according to pic above. Each team needs half its guys in GVs and 1/2 in planes. (only 3 in bostons NO FORMATIONS)
Once dead in a GV you must up as either hurri2d or a 109e.

Unlimited lives in fighters.

Are you doing the life-limit and plane re-up voluntarily, or do you want us to disable all vehicles at bases once the war begins, as Easyscor suggested?  That would force dead people to fly planes, and they're already limited to one plane type.

- oldman
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 11, 2006, 08:36:20 AM
Can you blow up the ords at 34 at start, and then after the last boston dies? If not no biggy, everyone whos played in these has played great.

  Yes do the easyscor idea please.

Neutral is fine..its not real crucial, but would be nice.

   I want to keep it as simple for you as possible as Id like you airborne , and not playing CM all the way through.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: ASA335 on October 11, 2006, 07:01:48 PM
Sounds like fun. I'll be there!

In Pursuit,
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 12, 2006, 12:14:31 PM
Show up a lil early so we can get set. See ya tonight!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 12, 2006, 10:52:17 PM
Thanks all for taking part! With a few changes I think it would be better.

   Maybe have no axis planes up until tanks reach half way point, then at the time the axis are allowed to up fighters, an allied base closer to the action opens up. I did like the lack of ord though, as it gave the tankers hope.

   It ended as a major axis victory, but the allies were under-manned.

   The next AvA event I do will likely be a late war bomber run against a city.

!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Reynolds on October 13, 2006, 12:49:26 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Thanks all for taking part! With a few changes I think it would be better.

   Maybe have no axis planes up until tanks reach half way point, then at the time the axis are allowed to up fighters, an allied base closer to the action opens up. I did like the lack of ord though, as it gave the tankers hope.

   It ended as a major axis victory, but the allies were under-manned.

   The next AvA event I do will likely be a late war bomber run against a city.

!


Make it B17s, and on a sunday, and my whole squad will be there!
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Oldman731 on October 13, 2006, 07:08:52 AM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
It ended as a major axis victory, but the allies were under-manned.

It was a lot of fun, Filth, as always.  What time did the Afrika Korps reach home?

- oldman
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: storch on October 13, 2006, 07:36:31 AM
Here's an idea. but before I present it I'll say it was fun enough but it was fun for the axis, I suspect less so for the allieds. to the allied players for their participation in a tough assignment.

we should re run it but give the allieds the T34 P40 and the A20G as well as all of the Hurri fighters but limit the number of HurrIIcs or else that's all they'll be in.

give the axis the 202  110C4b and the 109E4.

also give the axis a more difficult objective, they must capture a vbase en route that has ack up and maybe two defenders in any GV but no vehicles can respawn from.  the allied forces must run to defend it, the premis being the axis need to capture the fuel stores in order to proceed to victory by landing at the designated base.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 13, 2006, 09:16:14 AM
OM it was after 11 et sometime. I drove it in 50 minutes offline. The combat added a bit of time to it.

  Storch that sounds cool. Put her together!

  I gotta say, the small group we have really pick things up quickly and play nice together. :)
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Kuhn on October 13, 2006, 10:27:14 AM
Had a good time. Allieds needed more ground troops though. I hope more start showing up for these events.:aok
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: E25280 on October 13, 2006, 01:09:06 PM
Sounds like it went well --

Was hoping to join in, but "Mrs. Brauno" was unexpectedly called off to some ultra-necessary womanly mission somethingorother (and by my mother, no less), and thus I was stuck on baby duty.  :cry

Not having been there, but only judging from the setup, it looks like you really wanted to showcase the Hurri IId as a GV buster.  To Storch's point, some kind of "true fighter" cover for the GV busters probably would have helped the Allied cause.  It's been a long time since I tried out a IId, but my recollection is it was not well suited for dogfighting.

Looking forward to the next one. :aok
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 13, 2006, 03:19:12 PM
Ya maybe a Huuri2c with it and a comparable axis plane. I'd like to try it again someday with improvements.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: sparow on October 13, 2006, 03:44:41 PM
I'm sorry, I showed up Thursday, 12, at 10:15 GMT in AvA and nobody was there. Looked at SEA and nothing...Was the time GMT? Am I going crazy?
How could I miss it?

Sparow
249 Sqn RAF "Gold Coast"
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: FiLtH on October 13, 2006, 07:06:48 PM
It was eastern time in the US. I live in the eastern US so everything I post is ET. I dont know the GMT setup.
Title: Rommel's Retreat
Post by: Kongkyuk on October 13, 2006, 07:59:50 PM
Had a good time :aok

Tried hard to get the GV's but your air support was working good together:(

Nice job axis