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Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 04:21:47 PM
Is anyone willing to help me with my X52...I bought it about a year ago, but switched back to my microsoft sidewinder within hours....make a long story short, the sidewinder is dead, I now have 2 use the X52, and I lost the box for instructions....Im looking for someone to take some time with me and help me set up a profile and give me some tips on this beast

thanks and let me know ASAP

cav
Title: X52
Post by: Sketch on October 01, 2006, 04:47:07 PM
Cav, try here: Saitek X52 Manual (http://www.saitek.com/manuals/x52_manual.pdf)
Might take a minute to download, and is 77 pages of PDF file.  BUT, once it loads, just save it and your good.

:aok
Title: Well I can tell you what I did
Post by: shiningpathb4me on October 01, 2006, 04:50:08 PM
But that may not help you. Whatever I tell you might be wrong, or not as good as someone elses advice, O.K.?

Don't bother with installing the software or reading the instructions. Plug in stick, calibrate in Windows, go to game and set it up the same way you set up any JS. Set your inputs first, then map your buttons. Its that simple. I have two modes in the game, one for planes and one for GV's. One of these days I might make another one for bombers.

I have no idea how to create a profile using the Saitek software. I've only had 'issues' once, when I installed my ATI chipset drivers before getting all of the windows updates installed (on a new PC).  Something about that caused my USB ports to misbehave.
Title: X52
Post by: shooter1cac on October 01, 2006, 04:51:24 PM
Cav I had TONS of problems using the X-52 software for anything but the most minor things. I just set it up in AH and the only thing I used the x-52 software for was for things like increasing/decreasing the gun sight zoom, tail hook,brakes, squad talk, and map zoom in and out.
I can send you my profile if ya want..and you can change as you see fit...but it really is easier to do it how you want it as I still use the keyboard for a lot of stuff.
Title: X52
Post by: Sketch on October 01, 2006, 05:01:17 PM
Just like these other two guys Cav, I forgot to mention it to you, I did just like them. Plugged it in and went to town.  I did this because I didn't have the time to do it all.  I will eventually, probably when I get back stateside and have some time.
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 05:02:24 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of all the default keyboard commands for AH?  I am going to take the hard route, and try and program everything I want into the editor, but I cant think of half the buttons off hand....thanks
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 05:26:29 PM
I cant even get guns to fire in AH =(...i hate this X52
Title: X52
Post by: Eagler on October 01, 2006, 05:49:57 PM
you either need to program an ah saitek profile or program the stick inside ah
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 05:51:00 PM
does anyone know where I can find a list of default keyboard commands for AH?

ie- B=fire ect...
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 06:02:48 PM
Palazzom1@southernct.edu

If u dont mind, id like 2 check out some of your profiles...tanks

cav
Title: X52
Post by: Max on October 01, 2006, 06:06:56 PM
Cav:

It's really not that hard to get set-up.

Open up the Joystick window in AH and select MAO CONTROLLER.
Click on the DEFAULT MAP button on upper left side.
You should now have views on your hat, primary & secondary wep on your joystick. Test the various switches and buttons and see what they correspond to. You can always modify them to your liking. I have the upper left 4-way hat set to MOVE HEAD UP,DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT.

The lower joystick base toggles can be assigned for gear, WEP, auto speed, auto climb, etc.

Now for the throttle, assign the throttle handle to Throttle 1 ...i think that's the Z axis. On the back of the throttle handle is a 4-way switch. I use that for (left) flaps down, (right) flaps up, (top) mic channel, (bottom) mic range.

The big blue button on the throttle I assigned to Clipboard toggle. The next botton down is set to ZOOM. I've never bothered to mess with the slider, the dials or mini-mouse. I believe you can also program the three "multi function display" buttons on the throttle base for whatever you choose.

As said before, the Saitek programming software is a clusterphug. I'd save that task for a very rainy day.

PM me with your phone # if you're still having probs and I'll walk ya through it step by step.
Title: X52
Post by: Schatzi on October 01, 2006, 06:07:18 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
does anyone know where I can find a list of default keyboard commands for AH?



http://www.netaces.org the Quick Reference Guide.

Or the help file (*shudder*) ;).

Edit: The only key i dont think is listed in either reference yet is the "H key" - Mouse Control Toggle by default. But with X52 you better unmap that anyway.


I programmed my Saitek in AH, never installed the software. Since im only using the stick for AH (dont need multiple setups/profiles) that worked best.

If you want help with setting it up in AH, shoot me a mail Schatzi@slowcats.de or look me up in the TA.
Title: X52
Post by: Max on October 01, 2006, 06:07:59 PM
OH yeah....keyboard dot commands I believe can be found at
http://www.netaces.org


good luck bro!
Title: X52
Post by: RedDg on October 01, 2006, 08:36:36 PM
Saitek Help Forum at SimHQ (http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=79)
Title: X52
Post by: Sloehand on October 01, 2006, 09:17:29 PM
I'll add a bit here.  I just plugged it in and mapped in AH.  DO NOT MAP THE SLIDER OR ROTOR CONTROLS.  Even though initially they may work, they will eventually cause a freeze of other controls and you won't know what the problem is.  I discovered it by removing the slider and rotor mappings and then everything else worked again.  Went through this twice to verify.  Also, HiTech has said in the past NOT to map slider and rotors in AH.
The x52 is a great stick in and of itself.  Mapping problems are  not knowing how to properly do it in AH.  I'm had and mapped 3 of them so far.
The new mapping interface is not as intuative is the old one, but it does work.  And remember that the Throttle is the Z axis listed in the map window.
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 01, 2006, 11:21:48 PM
Just wanted to through out a big to everyone that gave advice, especially Max...He phoned me tonight and gave me some advice with setting up the stick!  Just went you think the community is going down hill, you see a great guy like him willing to reach out and help a fellow addict!  thank you...

What I decided to do was just map in game...It is much easier then the whole ssts whatever its called...I have also decided to combine the best of both worlds!  I am using my Microsoft sidewinder as my stick, and the X52 throttle quadrant as...well...the throttle! lol...Im just not comfortable with the size of the X52 stick...I love having a seperate throttle though...Its going to take a little getting used to, but it's definately adding to the game!

thanks again

cav
Title: X52
Post by: Flayed1 on October 02, 2006, 01:07:04 AM
I love my X-52, I've had it from the time they first came out (They had to back order it) and have had no problems with it except for the shaft getting dirty and wanting to stick (real dusty farm land here) but a couple Qtips and some alcohol fixes that, and the silver paint is wearing off from the amount of use it gets.

  The best thing about the programming software is the macro feture..  I have all the toggles set up for the /.salvo # commands all the way up to 12.... and just added /.ef to a button today for those quick belly landings with a con on your 6, the macro works in 1 second flat at the push of a button. Not to meantion the auto bomb sight callibration button. I also had a button set up at one time to type /Shut up Viper and the squad got a kick out of that :)

  Also in the windows set up you can set the dead bands to make the stick as tight or loose as you want .  

  Over all I find it is a good stick but it takes some geting used to. If you need any help I'll do what I can. :)
Title: X52
Post by: cav58d on October 02, 2006, 01:18:38 AM
Cool FLayed, glad you enjoy it so much...If I move up to actually using the stick I will definately take you up on that
Title: Re: X52
Post by: Hades55 on October 02, 2006, 03:48:31 AM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Is anyone willing to help me with my X52...I bought it about a year ago, but switched back to my microsoft sidewinder within hours....make a long story short, the sidewinder is dead, I now have 2 use the X52, and I lost the box for instructions....Im looking for someone to take some time with me and help me set up a profile and give me some tips on this beast
cav


Beast ?.... naah....

Thats a beast  (i have both)

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Title: dot commands
Post by: Max on October 02, 2006, 08:57:40 AM
Cav here's the link to the dot command list you asked for.
http://www.netaces.org/ahsetup/ah2quickref.pdf#search=%22aces%20high%20dot%20commands%22

If that doesn't work just google "aces high dot commands" Look for a PDF about 5-6 entries down the page.
Title: X52
Post by: Schutt on October 02, 2006, 09:10:58 AM
Dont program it, just map in in ah2 which is far better.

If you program it your problem is that with the text box open you cant use the function of the joystick because it will write the letter into the text box.
Title: X52
Post by: Flayed1 on October 02, 2006, 09:31:54 AM
Schutt I usually don't have this problem because if I am in a situation where I am using the stick I most likely should not be typing LOL..   I can count on 1 hand in the years I have played AH the # of typing deaths I have had.

  So other than chating in the middle of a fight I have to ask what are you doing that requires the text bar to be open while using the stick?