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Title: Best of the Best
Post by: WTC on October 02, 2006, 04:41:27 PM
Which of all the planes is the best of the best, excluding the jets?
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: captkaos on October 02, 2006, 04:47:00 PM
Sorry to say, it is not the plane, it is the pilot.  But if you want a best of the best, you have to define the purpose of the plane.

1.  Air Superiority
2.  Ground Attack (GV's)
3.  Ground Attack (Hard Targets)
4.  Bombing missions
5.  Long Range Bomber Escort
6.  Base Defence
7.  NOOB plane
etc
etc
etc

Once you define the purpose, you will get a lot of differnet answers.  I love the c.205 for fighters, but it is not the most capable plane.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: WTC on October 02, 2006, 04:51:21 PM
Im going to say number 1
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Saxman on October 02, 2006, 05:05:05 PM
F4U-4
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Overlag on October 02, 2006, 07:08:51 PM
1. Air Superiority - 109
2. Ground Attack (GV's) - Il2?
3. Ground Attack (Hard Targets) - Stuka?
4. Bombing missions - gotta be the B29
5. Long Range Bomber Escort - P47
6. Base Defence - Spitfire
7. NOOB plane - lala's :p
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Warspawn on October 02, 2006, 07:24:05 PM
Hmm...

One would also have to include skill level of the pilot.
Generally I'd say the best overall plane to use in most air-to-air encounters by the vast majority of pilots would be the Spit XVI.  What an incredible ride.  E-retention, great gun package, roll and climb rates...the bird is fun to fly, and frustrating to fight against.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: SAS_KID on October 02, 2006, 08:08:35 PM
For #1 it really depends on the pilot. How you fly the plane how well you know the other factor. How much fuel does each plane have? What altitude is each plane meeting at? Heck how the merge starts off.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: AquaShrimp on October 02, 2006, 08:40:46 PM
Spit 14 is an excellent fighter.  So is F4U4.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 03, 2006, 04:07:31 AM
Quote
Originally posted by captkaos
Sorry to say, it is not the plane, it is the pilot.  But if you want a best of the best, you have to define the purpose of the plane.

1.  Air Superiority
2.  Ground Attack (GV's)
3.  Ground Attack (Hard Targets)
4.  Bombing missions
5.  Long Range Bomber Escort
6.  Base Defence
7.  NOOB plane
etc
etc
etc

Once you define the purpose, you will get a lot of differnet answers.  I love the c.205 for fighters, but it is not the most capable plane.



Hmm...P-38 meets pretty much all those except for #7.


ack-ack
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: nick172 on October 03, 2006, 10:22:16 AM
Ah but so does the f4u line.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Nightshift82 on October 03, 2006, 10:53:59 AM
P47 meets all
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Karnak on October 03, 2006, 11:21:09 AM
If I was leading a nation into a real war using WWII tech and I could only pick one fighter for my nation, I would take the F4U.  It brings the most capabilities to the table of any single fighter, and it does most of them very well.

And I say this from the standpoint of somebody who is not an F4U fan, but rather a Spitfire and Mosquito fan.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Wolfala on October 03, 2006, 11:27:54 AM
Purely from the standpoint of shreading other aircraft.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/204_1128316559_fw190dvsp47nmod3copy.jpg)
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Kermit de frog on October 03, 2006, 12:00:59 PM
That screenshot is sick!
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: BugsBunny on October 03, 2006, 12:03:30 PM
Ki84
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Major Biggles on October 03, 2006, 01:10:51 PM
p51 for air superiority, it just rocks at it. :)
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: bsdaddict on October 03, 2006, 01:55:43 PM
I suppose, in today's AH, it depends on what arena one is in...
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: 1895 on October 03, 2006, 02:17:30 PM
1.  Air Superiority - Spitfire
2.  Ground Attack (GV's) - P38J
3.  Ground Attack (Hard Targets) - F4U1C/Tempest
4.  Bombing missions - B-17
5.  Long Range Bomber Escort - P51B/D
6.  Base Defence - Spitfire
7.  NOOB plane - Lgay
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Dace on October 03, 2006, 04:19:39 PM
All factors combined...... The F4U4 and P51-D are the "best" IMO.  

Awesome screenie Wolfala.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Lazerr on October 03, 2006, 07:04:30 PM
38L is far better for ground attack, as compared to the L model.
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Wolfala on October 04, 2006, 03:56:41 AM
Pure ground attack for tank plinking: A-20G
Ground Attack for VH busting: P-38L, A-20G

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/204_1128709335_knockknockmod2copy.jpg)
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: 1895 on October 04, 2006, 07:06:27 AM
Nice highlights and shadows, good drop :P
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Mace2004 on October 04, 2006, 10:30:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Krypto
1.  Air Superiority - Spitfire
2.  Ground Attack (GV's) - P38J
3.  Ground Attack (Hard Targets) - F4U1C/Tempest
4.  Bombing missions - B-17
5.  Long Range Bomber Escort - P51B/D
6.  Base Defence - Spitfire
7.  NOOB plane - Lgay


Now, except for the last, those would be good catagories for RL; however, the missions are different in AH.  I'd suggest something like this:

1.  Base porking - 190
2.  Vulching - Niki
3.  Ground attack (GV's) - Lancstuka
4.  Ground attack (Hard Targets) - Lancstuka
5.  Any other bombing - Lancstuka
6.  Picking - BF-109, FW-190, P-51, Typhoon
7.  Endless looping - P-38
8.  HOing - 110, 190, 109, LA-7
8.  Runningdownoutofammoguys - LA-7
9.  Turnfightsandcantrun - Zeke, Hurricane
10.  Base Defense - Any bomber that has the formation option to sponge up all of the vulchers bullets so real planes can up.


;)

Mace
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Sloehand on October 07, 2006, 02:47:18 AM
Nobody is really gonna agree completely with anyone else on the "best" ride.  If you could only pick one all-around fighter/attack aircraft that could do well on most all types of missions, someone said they would pick the F4U, and it would be a good choice, as would be the P-38.  
Mine would be the Niki for all the reasons below, and because out of all the best candidates, it's the one I fly in the pure fighter role the best:

1. very good TnB fighter and holds E fairly well, but can be effective in BnZ
2. has 4x 20mm cannons with 2nd best ballistics and largest magazine
3. is a stable gun platform for tracking shots
4. has responsive nose control for snapshots
5. has great fuel/range and loiter endurance with & without its drop tank
6. can carry two 550 Lb. bombs for structure/GV killing
7. good pilot visibility
8. doesn't compress as easily in a dive as many aircraft
9. generally handles/manuvers well at all altitudes up to just under 20K
10.  glides well deadstick
11. good for multiple base porking in one sortie

My preference for each mission type:
1. Air Superiority - Spit XVI
2. Ground Attack (GV's) - bf110
3. Ground Attack (Hard Targets) - bf110
4. Bombing missions - B-24
5. Long Range Bomber Escort - Ta152
6. Base Defence - HurriC/Spit II
7. NOOB plane - Spit II
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: 1895 on October 07, 2006, 10:03:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mace2004
Now, except for the last, those would be good catagories for RL; however, the missions are different in AH.  I'd suggest something like this:

1.  Base porking - 190
2.  Vulching - Niki
3.  Ground attack (GV's) - Lancstuka
4.  Ground attack (Hard Targets) - Lancstuka
5.  Any other bombing - Lancstuka
6.  Picking - BF-109, FW-190, P-51, Typhoon
7.  Endless looping - P-38
8.  HOing - 110, 190, 109, LA-7
8.  Runningdownoutofammoguys - LA-7
9.  Turnfightsandcantrun - Zeke, Hurricane
10.  Base Defense - Any bomber that has the formation option to sponge up all of the vulchers bullets so real planes can up.


;)

Mace




Shhh mace I base ALL my facts on RL
Title: Best of the Best
Post by: Squire on October 07, 2006, 10:09:45 AM
You forgot:

11. Onevulchandrun: P-51D, Dora, Typhoon, LA-7.