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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on October 04, 2006, 07:31:13 PM
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Thank you for your generous contribution. The great state of Texas is now one step closer to being what we all know it can be.
$1000.00 will be billed to the credit card provided.
Thanks again!
-- Kinky Friedman
My 1st political contribution! It's worth every penny if it gets Rick Perry's slimey republican butt out of the Governor's mansion. :cool:
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Originally posted by rpm
...Rick Perry's slimey republican butt...
LMAO, hes gay too!?!?!?!11??/1!/?
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I consider this type of post to be in the same category as those "goodbye cruel world posts". who cares who you contribute to and how much you contributed?
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Dunno if he's gay, but he sure bends over for the insurance industry who in turn bend the rest of us over. I'm still pissed about Perry's treatment of a Texas State Trooper who stopped his SUV for speeding during a campaign trip.
Storch, I'd like to think my fellow Texans do.
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I dunno man, I think the 1K could have been invested, earning an extra few bucks to soften the cost of the insurance that's bending you over, instead of tossing it off to a political hack who can't and won't do a thing for you Regardless of party affiliation.
I've walked weekends and passed out fliers, spent nights on the phone talking to the public, spend afternoons talking at Kiwanis, Chamber of Commerce etc and Don't give em my Money, they don't get that. That's mine, to insulate me from what they all do. I try to be successful in Spite of what they do, surely not because of it :)
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Courtesy of khou.com:
Kinky Friedman hopes young votes will bring a win
08:45 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 4, 2006
By Greg Hurst / 11 News
It's a Tuesday night happy hour – usually not usually the best time to go asking for votes.
KHOU-TV
Kinky Friedman sees thousands of potential votes at college campuses such as the University of Houston's.
But Miller time is prime time for the Kinky caravan.
Independent gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman left the guitar at home, but he knows how to play to an audience.
And he's still writing his own music.
“We'll be here all night,” Friedman said. “I'll sign anything but bad legislation.”
It makes you wonder if the audience is here for the message, the moment or the memorabilia.
As for Friedman, he's worked this stage before -- as cool as cold beer on tap.
But afterward, he’s all about the issues.
"I don't mind being called a flip-flopper or racist, but I do mind being called a politician,” Friedman said.
Statements like that are kryptonite, for most candidates, but Kinky seems to embrace controversy.
“I'm not afraid to offend people. That's good!” he said.
When asked if he would ask for forgiveness, he said, “No, no. I'll take their request for an apology under review.
“It is b.s.,” Friedman said. “Everyone who knows me knows I'm not a racist. That's ridiculous.”
He said he didn’t know how many of people of color he had on his staff.
"I don't hire people anyway,” Friedman said. “That's a bogus question; I'm not going to answer that kind of question. It's a racist question.”
He's an independent candidate. At his Harris County campaign headquarters he's trying to rally the troops.
"Folks, we've been waiting 153 years for the feds to help us, and they're not coming,” Friedman said. “We have our own army. I want 10,000 Texas National Guard troops on the border, and I want ‘em now."
And he wants identification cards for immigrants working in Texas, with big fines for violators.
But beyond the issues, Friedman takes independence to a whole new level.
“We need people who are pirates; they have integrity, dignity and humanity,” Friedman said. “But they also steal, maim and murder. No, those are politicians. I think you got that flip-flopped around here. "
So the pirate picked up a first mate and went looking for treasure on college campuses.
Former Gov. Jesse Ventura was the first rebel to enlist young unregistered voters -- winning in Minnesota.
Friedman is hoping to ride that same rogue wave in Texas while talking about spending and the state budget.
“Suppose I'm right, and we have $12 billion in a budget surplus,” Friedman said. “And I think I am right.
“There's no reason we can't pay our teachers,” he said. “We play Mickey Mouse games with our teacher's Social Security; we don't help the cops, the firefighters, the nurses, the librarians, the veterans.”
On campuses like the University of Houston’s, Friedman sees 35,000 potential voters. At the University of Texas, more than 50,000, and he sees 45,000 at Texas A&M. With dozens of these visits planned for college campuses across the state, they're hoping that turns into hundreds of thousands of votes on election night.
James Lancaster is president of Coogs for Kinky.
“Change! It's going away from the paper or plastic, the Crips or the Bloods,” Lancaster said. “It's changing Texas."
“It was refreshing,” voter Christopher Shell said. “I don't agree with everything he has to say, but I think he's going to do the right thing for Texas."
So, at 61 years old it's back to school for Kinky Friedman. He’s not taking history and he’s not teaching it, but he's hoping to record a new chapter.
If he pulls off what some have thought was impossible, he would be the state's first independent governor since Sam Houston almost 150 years ago, and arguably its most controversial.
I dunno. I am still on the fence about Kinky. He still comes off as a bit eccentric but on the other hand, it is exactly this kind of Texas eccentricity that makes him different.
He ain't a typical candidate that's for sure.
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I've done all that, too. I spent weekends collecting signatures to get him on the ballot. Now it's down to the final stretch and time to start running TV ads. Rick Perry has millions in his warchest from special interest groups, Kinky is funded by little guys like me. I see it as an investment in Texas' future.
Diablo, if nothing else we will have derailed the 2 party monopoly in Austin. I don't agree with everything he says, but I like more than I dislike about him.
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ditto....
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Rpm..have I told you about my New Hampshire chapter of "Yankees who Support Kinky Texans"? With a little financial aid..we will do our best for you!
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Kinky Friedman?
Isn't that the Congressional Page everyone is talking about?
:huh
Mac
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I think you have wasted $1000 on "Kinky"
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Kinky has about as much chance of being elected Governor as I do. Didn't he offer a dinner or a party for that contribution? You should get something for your money.
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he is a socialist. he may have a few things you like but in the end....
he is a socialist. If you like kalifornia and it's laws... you will love kinky.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
he is a socialist. he may have a few things you like but in the end....
he is a socialist. If you like kalifornia and it's laws... you will love kinky.
lazs
Thing is, lazs, the incumbent really is a ****stick, and the alternatives are also political hacks. Voting in an independent would at least allow the patronage trough to be flushed out, and I doubt we could do worse in that respect than we are now.
I can't say I endorse Kinky, he IMO has pretty much run on a "the status quo sucks and I am better" platform that hasn't offered enough specific info to help me decide. But I damn sure want Perry out, and I don't see anyone else running that I have any faith in.
So, if the election were today I'd probably vote for Kinky simply because I "like" him on a personal level. I mean, this after all is the man that wrote and recorded songs like "Get Your Biscuits In The Oven And Your Buns In The Bed", "They Don't Make Jews Like Jesus Anymore", "A**hole From El Paso" etc. That's a hell of a lot more good than I can say about our current governor or any of the other candidates.
culero
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Sigh, you guys do realize he will not be able to do anything if he gets elected? He will be fighting the parties, who do have control in the state legislatures.
If you want to effect change, the best place to start is from the bottom, not the top.
If the governor sucks, then why aren't we issuing a recall? Putting someone in charge who will not be able to get anything done is a dangerous game.
All the other two parties have to do is make sure he gets nothing accomplished, and come the next vote, one of the primary parties will get elected. In other words, there is nothing to be gained by this and plenty to be lost.
What are the chances another person not affiliated with the D or R parties will run and win? Dangerous game.
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while I agree with skuzzy about him being innefective if elected...
let's assume he could get things done... he can also veto of course... anything he did get done would be to your disadvantage... there is nothing he wants that any real man would want. he is a socialist.
Now... not only that but... what message would that send to politicians if he got elected? That you were damn sick and tired of the status quo?
or.... mucho mas more likely.....
That you liked socialists and socialist views and if the wanted to win in the future they better get their platform more into the realm of the socialist...
I really really think you guys ought to look at what kinky wants for Texas...
He wants to out kalifornicate kalifornia. He wants Texas to be more like kalifornia.
You guys vote for this commie and you can never laugh at finestein or boxer or kalifornia again.
lazs
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Well, what's Rick Perry done lately?
As far as I'm concerned - Voting for the kinkster is just sending a message to both Democratic / Republicans is that I'm pretty tired of the same ole crap and politics that get spewn every election campaign. For me it's also a vote to stop the tiptoeing around "pc" subjects and call things for what they are.
Btw Lazs - a city in "Kalifornia" just did one of the most "conservative" things I've seen in a while...they voted to make it illegal to rent property / housing to illegal immigrants. "Want to live here - better show me your papers."
Also Lazs - what does Kinky "really really want for texas"? I'm sure the Texas governers race is covered exclusivly in "kalifornia".
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sounds like a fine waste of 1k but you know what they say about a fool and his money.......
:rolleyes:
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Fixed for you RPM!!
Thank you for your generous contribution. The defense fund for Mark Foley has now made him one step closer to being a free pedophile.
$1000.00 will be billed to the credit card provided.
Thanks again!
-- House Of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert
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If you want to do something stupid with $1000, PayPal it to me. I'll use it on the R2-D2 Project :p
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Now, now guys. While I am dubious about Kinky, I respect anyone who has the tamarity to take a stand and back it up.
Let's play nice please.
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Originally posted by storch
I consider this type of post to be in the same category as those "goodbye cruel world posts". who cares who you contribute to and how much you contributed?
i, for one, happen to care.
i consider the people here as my friends. why wouldnt i care about what they are up to?
good for you RPM.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sigh, you guys do realize he will not be able to do anything if he gets elected? He will be fighting the parties, who do have control in the state legislatures.
Well, if no laws are passed during his term, that'd probably have to recorde as a plus, wouldn't it?
;)
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Rippy, I'm not the one who was defending or trying to justify Foley's actions.
JB88, thanks bro.
Lazs, oh where do I begin... Tell ya what, I'll refrain from flaming you and shoot straight. If nothing else I like Kinky's school finance plan better than any of the other candidates alternatives. That 1 point alone is enough for me to strongly support him.
Since George Bush took office school finance has slipped off into the deep end of the pool. It was having trouble treading water in the kiddie pool prior. Geedub left the mess in Perry's lap and Perry has done squat to fix it. Sorry, your turn is over. Time for the new kid to take a turn.
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Funny, we used Kennedy's Education Plan since he'd ranted for years he had a better idea.
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Back to putting your money where your mouth is. I think you flushed that money down the toilet. Guess that makes you a potty mouth. :p
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Stop feeding the @#$@# politicians!!!
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Originally posted by rpm
My 1st political contribution! It's worth every penny if it gets Rick Perry's slimey republican butt out of the Governor's mansion. :cool:
ol Kinky aint near as liberal as you seem to want him to be..
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Originally posted by RedRadr
ol Kinky aint near as liberal as you seem to want him to be..
Oh really? How liberal do I want him to be? Please tell me what I dislike about him while you've got your crystal ball out.
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I dont agree with the idea that to vote independent nothing will get done. If nothing gets done long enough...somethings gonna get done. These f-sticks need weedin out.
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no too long ago a s. Florida community elected a very charismatic 18yr old mayor. it took him 3 months to mess up an already messed up town. kinky friedman strikes me as an ancient 18yr old. I'm sure glad cooler heads will prevail in texas.
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rpm... if you like one issue and vote or... worse yet.. contribute on that basis.... I have no problem with that. I often vote on nothing more than second amendment rights... more important in my opinion but... one issue.
Now, for you all saying kinky is not a socialist... simply go to the website that rpm has listed earlier... While kinky is not big on explaining his ideas... one can eaisily see that he leans very heavily to the left.
I would be interested in his views on gun owners rights and the second.
His stand on socialized medicine is enough for me to fear him... rpm likes that he is continueing to prop up the public school system and take away choice by avoiding vouchers... These are some of the worst aspects of socialism to me.
lazs
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but...but...but...what about "one tough grandma"?
Actually, I think Skuzzy's right: we need to get more involved at the local, grass-roots level, participate those pre-election party meetings, you know, the ones where you vote on the planks you want your candidate to support, etc....I can't remember squat right now, but that's the only way to really get anything accomplished.
I need sleep...ciao....ZZzzz...
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Originally posted by lazs2
I would be interested in his views on gun owners rights and the second.
lazs
Q: What's Kinky's feeling on gun control?
A: The second amendment is every bit as important as the others. Texans have the right to keep and bear arms, as well as to hunt.
I'm voting for Kinky. I agree with his stance on more issues than any of the other options. I don't agree on all the issues, but enough to give him my vote.
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is Kinky Friedman related to Squeaky Fromme? the names resonate with each other as if they are somehow intertwined? I know both reside in texas......
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From the kinky website:
The one and only debate between the top four contenders for Texas governor will be held Friday night at 7PM. Encourage your friends and family to watch this debate and see the candidates in action.
Check your local listings here to see which station will be showing the debates, and cheer on the Kinkster as he outsmarts, outwits, and outperforms "Goodhair", "Grandma", and the democrat."
This oughta make for some good tv tonite...lol
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp
The debate will be aired on CSPAN tonite at 10pm EDT for the folks who don't get to see it live.
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One thing you have to understand, lazs. Just because I like and plan to vote for someone does not make them teh evil. At least I'm not sheeple enough to just sit back, do nothing and moan about how bad things are.
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indy.. his quote on gun control is pretty much the same thing all democrats say and then vote for more restrictive gun laws... I mean... he can say..."well, I didn't mean texans could own that kind of gun" or... "they don't need that gun for hunting" this is standard democrat. It is like kerrie shooting skeet... proves nothing.
rpm.. "doing something" is much worse than doing little (voting, writing talking to people BB etc.) if that "something" is making things worse.
one could say that they are "doing something" about cancer by giving cancer patients a leathal injection.
I have no doubt that kinky is witty and clever but... his website shows a disturbing lack of forthrightness and honesty... platitudes and soundbites.... skirting the issues but all the while... the socialist big government solution threads through it.
The guy is a socialist... if that sounds good to ya... vote for him. Based on what I have seen I sure don't want the guy in any office I can think of.
lazs
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Well it's quite obvious that you did'nt watch the Texas Gubenatorial Debate. Perry got pwn3d and Kinky came off looking like the next Governor.
:rofl
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Originally posted by rpm
Well it's quite obvious that you did'nt watch the Texas Gubenatorial Debate. Perry got pwn3d and Kinky came off looking like the next Governor.
:rofl
that would be an objective opinion no doubt.
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Actually, no one really came out the clear winner. BUT, Kinky was the only one that didn't come across as being rehearsed and reading from a memorized script. Perry was the most composed but you could tell he was just towing the Republican line, he stated nothing new. Of course, neither did Bell or Grandma.
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Originally posted by storch
I consider this type of post to be in the same category as those "goodbye cruel world posts". who cares who you contribute to and how much you contributed?
Storch, I don't think assuming others care or regard our opinions is an assumption of this bbs.
Regards,
hap
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so let me get this straight... all rpm cares about is how witty the candidate is?
guys... simply look at kinky's website... it is socialist democrat pablum...
in kalifornia we vote for movie stars... at least we pick ones that aren't as left as their opponents.
you guys are trying to elect an "outlaw" country and western singer who is more socialist than the worst democrat in the race.
One result is the same... the movie star and the cowboy are fun to watch and listen to... that in itself is a good thing comparitively speaking but...
Can't you guys at least find a country singer that isn't stalin?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
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Can't you guys at least find a country singer that isn't stalin?
lazs
We're going for Willie Nelson for Attorney General next :)
culero
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RPM, next time you have a thousand bucks to burn, you could become an official sponsor of the Penn State Sailing Team..
And that goes for everyone else as well!
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Originally posted by Yeager
is Kinky Friedman related to Squeaky Fromme? the names resonate with each other as if they are somehow intertwined? I know both reside in texas......
They may be related, but I have a feeling that Kinky's a better shot.
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we'll never know she tried to fire a 1911 with the hammer down so she never shot.
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Originally posted by lazs2
so let me get this straight... all rpm cares about is how witty the candidate is?
guys... simply look at kinky's website... it is socialist democrat pablum...
in kalifornia we vote for movie stars... at least we pick ones that aren't as left as their opponents.
you guys are trying to elect an "outlaw" country and western singer who is more socialist than the worst democrat in the race.
One result is the same... the movie star and the cowboy are fun to watch and listen to... that in itself is a good thing comparitively speaking but...
Can't you guys at least find a country singer that isn't stalin?
lazs
Lazs, it looks to me like all you care about is flaming/trolling. Electing Kinky won't affect you one bit, unless he decides to cut off the juice to Kalifornia. I'll make you an offer, when Kalifornia residents can vote in the Texas Gubernatorial election then you can spew all you neocon hate you want. Until then, why don't you focus on Arnold?
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Originally posted by rpm
Lazs, it looks to me like all you care about is flaming/trolling. Electing Kinky won't affect you one bit, unless he decides to cut off the juice to Kalifornia. I'll make you an offer, when Kalifornia residents can vote in the Texas Gubernatorial election then you can spew all you neocon hate you want. Until then, why don't you focus on Arnold?
seems like all you had to do was keep quiet bout that thou and saved
yourself from all that neo-con hate...
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rpm.. he was an entertainer long before he was a politician and... he is a flaming socialist... you are also a flaming socialist.
These are issues that make him and you... fair game. plus... Even one socialist in power is too many.
You seem to want Texas to go the way of new york city and kalifornia.
I just found it hard to believe that so many Texans are being fooled into going the womanly socialist route here. wanting people to fund their healthcare? wanting more money from others to send their kids to liberal public schools?
LOL... Texans... big tough..... socialists..
lazs
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Lazs, Texas has it's fair share of socialists. Fortunately for now they appear to be more numerous than they actually are owing to their influence in the media. They've also thrown in with the illegals which has artificially and temporarily inflated their numbers. This is, of course, one reason they are vehemently opposed to a voter id card.
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yep.. I noticed the different Texas's when I go there... the pink hat dallas/huston ones and the small town ones. I think that getting the vote for illegals will swing things for guys like RPM and people who would vote for a liberal jewish entertainer.
I think jon stewart can be funny (snide and transparent tho) but I would never want him to be in office... he would probly hold his own in a debate by making funnies but like kinky... he would never get serious because he knows that his views are totaly against what Americans believe is the way to live.
lazs
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Please Lazs, tell me why I'm unhappy with the current school finance system? I'm pretty sure your not going to be right, but tell me anyway for spit & giggles.
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Kinky believes teachers are underpaid in Texas and plans to increase their salaries with new legalized casino earnings. Propblem is we've heard this before. It was supposed to happen with lottery earnings, none of which support schools.
Fact is that if you compare teacher salaries with those in some other states like Kalifornia you'll find that the cost of living actually makes teachers in Texas well paid in comparison.
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Originally posted by lukster
Kinky believes teachers are underpaid in Texas and plans to increase their salaries with new legalized casino earnings. Propblem is we've heard this before. It was supposed to happen with lottery earnings, none of which support schools.
Fact is that if you compare teacher salaries with those in some other states like Kalifornia you'll find that the cost of living actually makes teachers in Texas well paid in comparison.
Nice try, but totally incorrect. The Texas Lottery has contributed more than $8 billion to the Foundation School Fund, and of that total, over $1 billion was contributed in FY '05.
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been there done that... we were first with the lottery scam in kalifornia... also foisted on us by liberal socialists to prop up a worthless public school system.
At first... they did as they said and contributed billions to schools and overpaid teachers....
Now... they contribute just as much but... because of it... the socialists have cut the amount of tax money that goes to schools by and equal amount and siphoned it off for more socialist programs... the lottery just created more socialism.
kinky of course knows this... he is hoping you, as dumb rednecks... don't. I think he figures the average Texan with a public school education can't do the math or the research.
My point is.... rpm is a flaming socialist... if that aint enough of a clue for ya.... you deserve kinky.
lazs
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The Texas lottery didn't go for what it was promised for at least the first 5 years. I have to admit that some of it does now go towards public education.
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Originally posted by lazs2
My point is.... rpm is a flaming socialist... if that aint enough of a clue for ya.... you deserve kinky.
:rofl
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Kinky does embrace socialism too much for my comfort, or vote. However, his unpcness is refreshing enough to keep the true socialists from putting him in power which is why I think rpm threw his money away.
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yep... it's a fine line when you are a true believer like kinky... you can suck in some votes by not being PC but most of the girly men you need the votes of are in the PC police.... real problem...
Hard to get any kind of balance. He is taking a page from every other politicians book tho and saying nothing but vauge platitudes.
From what he said about gun control he could take away every gun but a black powder shotgun and make every one of em registered and locked in a safe at the police station and not violate his "position" on gun control.
The man is just as shifty and dishonest as any of the others... you can't pin him down on anything but... even a cursory glance will see his agenda is socialist.
lazs
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Lazs, you think Josef Goebbels is a liberal.
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Originally posted by rpm
Lazs, you think Josef Goebbels is a liberal.
I think he belonged to a socialist party but the only thing he is now is dead. :p
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I think that people who want to raise taxes and give em away to people who have not earned em are liberal socialists yes.
Your boy is a liberal socialist with a potty mouth and a quick wit... The wit of those who vote for him is in question tho.
lazs