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Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Saintaw on October 05, 2006, 08:27:00 AM
(http://www.zod2008.com/zodportrait.jpg)

http://www.zod2008.com/ (http://www.zod2008.com/)
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When I first came to your planet and demanded your homes, property and very lives, I didn't know you were already doing so, willingly, with your own government. I can win no tribute from a bankrupted nation populated by feeble flag-waving plebians. In 2008 I shall restore your dignity and make you servants worthy of my rule. This new government shall become a tool of my oppression. Instead of hidden agendas and waffling policies, I offer you direct candor and brutal certainty. I only ask for your tribute, your lives, and your vote.
-- General Zod
Your Future President and Eternal Ruler




Hehehe... isn't that the vilain in the movie "flash gordon"? :D
Edit: It's the bad guy from superman II, Saw you idjit!!!
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Nilsen on October 05, 2006, 08:28:07 AM
Im voting for Senator Palpatine.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Kaw1000 on October 05, 2006, 08:30:30 AM
Wheres Superman when we need him!!!:lol
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Speed55 on October 05, 2006, 08:32:23 AM
"Is this the planet Huston?"
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Airscrew on October 05, 2006, 08:46:33 AM
:rofl
Q. I have seen that another hopeful candidate for the 2008 elections is Christopher Walken (http://www.walken2008.com/). I have been a great supporter of his, but I have much respect for your authoritarian regime. I am unsure which of these two great evils I should vote for. Is there any chance for a political debate during campaign time between you and Mr. Walken?   — Beth R.

A. Yes, but can Walken promise you cruel oppression and harsh totality? Why allow him to coddle you with platitudes, only to be disappointed years after the election? I promise you a future of darkness. And it's only in darkness that you see light. I promise you ascent, and elevation, living the life of austerity as you relegate your possessions and lives. Warmed in that monastic aura you shall find enlightenment and happiness. To this I say: Give me your vote, and kneel before Zod!
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 05, 2006, 11:47:44 AM
2008 is an election year in la france?
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: lukster on October 05, 2006, 12:29:34 PM
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Originally posted by storch
2008 is an election year in la france?


I think they fantasize of being Americans. Who can blame them. :p
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Chairboy on October 05, 2006, 12:37:13 PM
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodoss.

(http://users.tkk.fi/~ssikio/cthulhu4prez3.png)
Cthulhu in 2008: Why settle for the lesser evil?
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Saintaw on October 05, 2006, 03:44:43 PM
I'm surprise it took you that long to miss the point lukster.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 05, 2006, 05:02:27 PM
he's probably not too far from the mark saw.  I would say europeans are somewhat envious of what the US is and what we Americans are.  as an example I could care less how europeans go about electing their leaders.  I haven't a clue about your elections or who your leaders are yet many of you could explain the electoral college to many who live here.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: lukster on October 05, 2006, 05:06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I'm surprise it took you that long to miss the point lukster.


I usually hit what I aim at and only my wife tells me what to shoot at. ;)
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Saintaw on October 06, 2006, 12:39:30 AM
Storch, you are wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start. I'm not even talking about myself (I don't qualify as a european... or anything realy) but just looking around me... nope, you are wrong. Maybe you're thinking about africa or eastern yurop?
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: moot on October 06, 2006, 04:23:47 AM
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Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 06, 2006, 07:35:03 AM
no saw I'm talking about europeans.  you cannot deny that europeans are well versed in the workings of the American political systems often times moreso than the average American.  I have spoken with euros here who are up on the current political situation in Florida!!!  The intimate knowledge many european posters on this bbs display bear me out. furthermore my interaction here with vacationing euros always leave me fairly amazed at the level of understanding displayed in all things American and especially American politics.

moot:  your message is far too cryptic for a simple American, speak your mind boy, spit it out, tell us how you really feel.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: moot on October 06, 2006, 08:06:48 AM
I think the same of everyone.  
When I was small, there were racist frenchmen; as teachers, neighbours, even girlfriends - true, they didn't like colored skin, but for some unexplainable reason they still fell in.
Then I moved to suburbs, and there, it was the pasty skinned, racist frenchmen that were scum.  They fuddled with some two bit reasons to excuse their xenophobia, so sun-baked suburban people felt righteous in responding with, you guess it, a mirror of said xenophobia.

Move to country A from country B, and A's will call you B.  Move back to B, and B's will call you A.
On a large scale, there's nationalities, but all the way down to the most inocuous discrimination, like that "snorting geek with taped glasses", it's all the same thing.
Facts are the only thing worth taking seriously, not something nebulous like "disgust".

I don't think the measure of someone by anything else than their intent, and to a lesser extent, their (strictly personal) history is worth taking without a grain of salt.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Ball on October 06, 2006, 09:12:11 AM
looks like he has a cobweb coming off the side of his head in that photo
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Saintaw on October 06, 2006, 11:57:40 AM
See Rule #7
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Black Sheep on October 06, 2006, 12:40:50 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
See Rule #7


Good luck with that, 'nowhere man'
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Post by: slimm50 on October 06, 2006, 01:05:19 PM
MOOT, either iron your shirt, or throw it back in the dryer.:huh
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Shuckins on October 06, 2006, 03:03:31 PM
My pick for president in 2008:

(http://www.shootingusa.com/LATEST_UPDATES/BobMunden1.jpg)
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: lukster on October 06, 2006, 03:14:38 PM
I'd like to see Gingrich take the republican nomination but I guess he is trailing both McCain and Giulani.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: nirvana on October 06, 2006, 05:07:39 PM
I'm voting Walken in '08, or Jello Biafra.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Saintaw on October 06, 2006, 05:27:11 PM
lame.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: wooley on October 06, 2006, 07:36:04 PM
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Originally posted by storch
...you cannot deny that europeans are well versed in the workings of the American political systems often times moreso than the average American.  


Storch, there are two reasons why Europeans understand the American political system. Neither have anything to do with envy.

1. What happens in the US directly affects the economies of all countries in the world. Its in our interest to understand US politics.

2. We have education systems and media that acknowledge there's a world beyond the borders of our own countries. Unlike the average American, the average European is taught to take an interest in international affairs.

Militarily and economically the US commands respect, but there is little about the US that (Western) Europeans envy.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 06, 2006, 08:54:40 PM
I think europeans are somewhat envious of America and Americans.  I wouldn't categorize it as green with envy enviousness but envy none the less.  as an example there are few europeans that are as informed about what is going on politically or culturally in brasil or argentina as they are in America even though both of these resource rich nations are very important euro trading partners.  

I disagree that the goings on in America and the American economy directly affect anyone in europe to any great extent.

are you implying that we Americans are unaware of other cultures?  I believe we are quite aware of other western cultures, we have garrissoned your continent for the better part of one half of a century and acted as your shield at our own expense.  

I see you are in california, there are many, many euros that desire emigrating to the US.  In fact I understand that the quotas for european immigration to the United States is very restricted by INS.  The untold story is that we currently have a problem with illegal irish and russian immgration here.  I wonder how many Americans are intertested in emigrating to any european country?  I suspect not too many.

I think that when someone says "the land of opportunity" no one thinks the speaker is referring to the EU.

just saying.  anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Trikky on October 07, 2006, 05:09:24 AM
This board is in the US Storch, what else are we going to talk about? If it were in Argentina we may be discussing the finer points of beef farming or the UK’s claim on the Maldives but it aint so we don’t.

I’m guessing that most of our knowledge of the US comes from answering posts that claim that in the UK, you have to invite burglars into your house every weekend and make them a cup of tea, or that 100 deaths a year in a population of 60 million is proof that our gun laws don’t work.

To be honest, its pretty easy to shine as a sophisticated type with a firm grasp of geo politics amongst so much dung.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: AWMac on October 07, 2006, 05:31:53 AM
Chuck Norris for President,
 Vice President,
 Sec of Defense,
Army,
Navy,
Air Force
and Marine Corp,
Speaker of all the houses,
he'll be the Senate,
Congress
and the Supreme Court.

There will be no Republicans,
no Democrats,
No U.N.,
No NATO
just the Norris Party.

No other Country would mess with us...period!

a lil deep but think about it.

Mac
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 07:03:11 AM
good heavens miss lucy I believe we've been insulted!

please excuse me trikky us slow witted americans just cannot grasp subtle messages.  please explain how really view us.   perhaps by your excrement comment you meant me personally?  I hope it isn't a personal insult because your opinion is highly valued by me and I would simply be crushed, emotionally scarred even.

please allow me to point out that while this poster is accessing this board from the US, most posters are also in the US and the physical location for it's servers are marginally in the US this is in fact an international forum.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 07:08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Trikky
This board is in the US Storch, what else are we going to talk about? If it were in Argentina we may be discussing the finer points of beef farming or the UK’s claim on the Maldives but it aint so we don’t. To be honest, its pretty easy to shine as a sophisticated type with a firm grasp of geo politics amongst so much dung.


trikky do you mean the malvinas also known as the falklands?  aren't the maldives in the indian ocean?  I know you english types claim all of creation for your little island nation so my distinction may not really matter,  however please clear up this minor point for me.

thanks
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Post by: Ball on October 07, 2006, 07:17:12 AM
LOL Maldives, you plum.

You were doing so well making your point until that.

:rofl
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: cpxxx on October 07, 2006, 07:30:43 AM
Storch you are both right and wrong, many Europeans would look to America and see certain things they would like for their own country. I for one would like to see certain things done the 'American way'. But to be fair, when I look to France, Spain, Australia etc I would see things to envy there too. I daresay, Americans would look to aspects of Europe they would like too.

In fact you are wrong about Americans moving to Europe. According to the US embassy here, there are 100,000 Americans resident in Ireland. Many are permanent, some are returned Irish with US citizneship. But it's still a lot. Other European countries no doubt have higher numbers. And yes there is the phenomenom of the American illegal alien:O I've met a few.  
As for the Irish illegals in the US. They are no longer escaping poverty and oppression back home. Most are in it for the adventure and the 'land of opportunity'. They should come home.   Can't say that for the Russians though. The immigration system in the US is skewed anyway and seems to favour non Europeans. But that is a problem for you guys.

In fact the EU is seen as a 'land of opportunity' by many in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. We have a small problem with Romanian, Russian, African and South American illegal immigrants believe it or not.

You are completely wrong about economic goings on not affecting goings on in Europe or elsewhere. Have you forgotten the Wall street crash of 1929. That plunged Europe into depression too. The US economy is so big and powerful that when it coughs we all get blown over.  The economies of Europe and the US are completely intertwined and dependant on each other.

It's too easy to think negatively about the relationship between Europe or more specifically parts of Europe and the USA. Like many I have a positive view of America and Americans based on my experiences. I imagine Americans have similiar experiences. But you can't insult me by saying Europe is crap because Europe is not a country and I don't gaze proudly on the blue flag of Europe. You simply cannot generalise about Europeans because we are all very different.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: cpxxx on October 07, 2006, 07:33:00 AM
Actually they are claiming the Maldives now. They want to send Tony Blair to live there in exile:lol
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 07:51:44 AM
I have never stated nor do I view europe or europeans as crap.  I did forget about the popularity of erin as a place for a second home amongst the well to do here.  I assure you that there are many irish illegal here.  while not as many as central Americans still enough to make me notice.  my litmus test for legal resident status is simple.  any applicant for work is asked to fill out an employment application, I interview all applicants (since it's a pissant firm I can do that) during the interview I inform them that the application needs to be reviewed by the Feds because we provide services for MIA, FTL, OPA, other airports and both of the ports. at that point many choose to go about their business securing employment elsewhere. many are european and a few have been australian.  forgive me but I wasn't around in 1929 but from what I understand europe was mildly affected by that depression with the notable exception being germany though at the time the weimar republic had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel due to the internal bickering over the sordid topic of money and the actual conflict between leftist and national socialist extremists so that example hardly counts.  all in all europe weathered the American depression pretty well.  but please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: lukster on October 07, 2006, 08:56:25 AM
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Originally posted by cpxxx
In fact you are wrong about Americans moving to Europe. According to the US embassy here, there are 100,000 Americans resident in Ireland. Many are permanent, some are returned Irish with US citizneship. But it's still a lot.  



Whoa! Do you really want to compare Americans that have migrated to Ireland vs vice versa? I didn't think so. :D
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Post by: cpxxx on October 07, 2006, 01:15:51 PM
It's all relative, Lukster. This country is only as big as Maine with a population of 4M. Funnily enough I went to the supermarket with my wife just after writing the last thing and keep meeting Yanks, some working there, some shopping. There was even a bunch of American teenagers blocking the aisles in the video store. I'm not even counting tourists. Rather ironic.

Yes Storch there are plenty of illegal Irish there. They were whinging on TV here recently about their problems. No sympathy for them. There is plenty of work here if they want it, not to mention in the rest of Europe. To be fair a lot of them give it a year or two just for the experience. Then come back.

Rest assured the depression did affect Europe too and any downturn in the American economy does effect Europe, not to mention the rest of the world. Imagine if there's a recession in the States. Who would buy all the junk China makes to sell in Walmart?:huh
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Post by: lukster on October 07, 2006, 01:33:42 PM
Sounds like there are more of Irish descent in America than there are in Ireland. I have ancestors from Ireland, Sweden, and who knows where else.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 01:41:29 PM
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Originally posted by cpxxx
It's all relative, Lukster. This country is only as big as Maine with a population of 4M. Funnily enough I went to the supermarket with my wife just after writing the last thing and keep meeting Yanks, some working there, some shopping. There was even a bunch of American teenagers blocking the aisles in the video store. I'm not even counting tourists. Rather ironic.

Yes Storch there are plenty of illegal Irish there. They were whinging on TV here recently about their problems. No sympathy for them. There is plenty of work here if they want it, not to mention in the rest of Europe. To be fair a lot of them give it a year or two just for the experience. Then come back.

Rest assured the depression did affect Europe too and any downturn in the American economy does effect Europe, not to mention the rest of the world. Imagine if there's a recession in the States. Who would buy all the junk China makes to sell in Walmart?:huh
consider yourselves blessed to have "yanks" amongst you.  they will singlehandedly (as it were) vastly improve your society in manners, eating habits, dental and personal hygiene, looks and most of all true humility.  If I were you I'd immediately hook up my young adults with these "yanks" in an effort to improve the genepool for the greater good of europe.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: cpxxx on October 07, 2006, 02:34:45 PM
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Originally posted by storch
consider yourselves blessed to have "yanks" amongst you.  they will singlehandedly (as it were) vastly improve your society in manners, eating habits, dental and personal hygiene, looks and most of all true humility.  If I were you I'd immediately hook up my young adults with these "yanks" in an effort to improve the genepool for the greater good of europe.


We are not worthy :rofl :lol :p ;) ;) ;)
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 02:51:38 PM
thank you, thank you :)
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Enduro on October 07, 2006, 07:55:54 PM
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Originally posted by storch
thank you, thank you :)


that's more like it.
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Post by: storch on October 07, 2006, 08:24:52 PM
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Originally posted by Enduro
that's more like it.
is that what you like in a man?  interesting choice of handle by the way.
Title: Finaly a valid 2008 candidate.
Post by: Trikky on October 08, 2006, 05:27:22 AM
Bah, Maldives/Malvinas, they're all out there somewhere. Just reinforces my point ;). Not sure where erin is either, come to think of it.