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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on October 06, 2006, 05:35:39 PM
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It was kinda bad gosh darn it!
Anyway, flew into Chicago on Monday night. There was this little thunderstorm that happened to arrive at the same time I did. The pilot asked for the crew to buckle in early and warned us it might be a little rough.
I had a window seat, and the light show (lightning) was pretty cool on the way in. Bumps and dips were tolerable, and the landing was pretty smooth. We taxied to the terminal and were about 50 feet away when the pilot stops the plane. We were held due to the storm.... for 2 hours!
Buncha pansie ground crew wouldn't take the chance of getting a little lightning strike.. sissies!!!!
:mad:
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Those evil union groundworkers!
:lol
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It usually only takes a drizzle somewhere in Iowa or Wisconsin to cause a two hour delay at O'Hare. I would have expected 8-9 hours at the very least with Monday's weather :)
Charon
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It may not have been the airline's call; the airport opeating authority can "shut her down".
From:
Weather Information for Surface Transportation
Sector Activities for Airport Ground Operations
Lightning is the most common thunderstorm-related threat. Most activities begin halting noncritical activities when lightning is observed at or near the outer boundaries of their lightning detection grid. When lightning is observed within 3 nautical miles of the airfield, all refueling operations are halted and personnel are moved inside or under cover. (Some operators reported that they take their people off the line when lightning is observed at or within 10 nautical miles.)
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Toad were you in Dallas within the last week?
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Nope. Anymore, I break out in a rash at the thought of air travel. :)
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I work for UPS at their air hub. If lightning strikes within 5 miles of the airport, we have to go on an operational-shutdown for 15 minutes. Thusly no one is allowed onto the tarmac.
I've seen terminals that are completely enclosed, the operator drives them to the aircraft. Wonder if those are allowed to be used during a storm?
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Talked to a guy at Million Air Addison that looked just like you and is former military prior to DL. Didn't know where you were from, this guy lives in FL and was picking up his family in his 310. Thought maybe it was you.
Though I'm sure there's only a handfull of former military guys who ever worked at DL that are relatively average height with average build.
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Hanging around the outside of a huge metal lightning rod in an active thunderstorm is not my idea of a good idea.
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There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime.
(Sign over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970).
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Originally posted by Dago
Hanging around the outside of a huge metal lightning rod in an active thunderstorm is not my idea of a good idea.
If the plane gets struck at the terminal while ground operations are going how would it effect the workers?? the planes are grounded they have rubber wheels
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2/06 - SEATAC AIRPORT - KING COUNTY AN AIRPORT WORKER WAS DAZED AFTER LIGHTNING STRUCK THE PLANE HE WAS LOADING ON THE TARMACK
I'd have thought you'd be aware of all this, given the vast amount of time you've spent on SWA jumpseats.
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WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Our plane sat on the tarmac at O'Hare for an hour too. Except there wasn't any lightning. That's how long it took someone to move the jetway out to the plane.
I would rather fly through any other airport in the U.S. (with the possible exception of LAX) than go through O'Hare again.
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Originally posted by Toad
I'd have thought you'd be aware of all this, given the vast amount of time you've spent on SWA jumpseats.
he was just dazed
I debunked that SWA thing a long while back:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Chairboy
There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime.
(Sign over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970).
Interestingly enough, my dad flew through tstms in peacetime for the AF. :)
He was in the initial cadre of instrument flying instructors at Barksdale AFB when it became HQ for Air Training Command. He wrote part of 51-37, the instrument flying procedures manual.
One of the chapters he and his buddies were going to write was "How to Fly Through Thunderstorms". It ended up being a very short chapter best summarized by "DON'T!"
He and others would sit "strip alert" on hot summer nights in B-25's waiting for a good boomer to pop up. Then they'd go fly through it. There are some photos around of severly hail damaged B-25's. Many of those come from this experiment at Barksdale. ;)
He said it was some of the most exciting flying he ever did. But he didn't say that in a way that connotes a good or fun thing.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
the planes are grounded they have rubber wheels
The plane isn't grounded, the rubber wheels insulate it from the ground. But if one of the workers outside touch the plane, then it will be connect to the ground. If it is then hit by lightening the juice will flow through the poor bastard.
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You stand more of a shock hazard from the lighting just hitting nearby than you do from it hitting the plane then making it's way to you. You also stand more of a shock hazard just from touching a plane that isn't grounded than a lightning risk would represent. Ground that damn plane prior to touching it.
Alot of airports are in flat areas and represent the highest conducting points in the immediate area. The rebar in the runways, the buildings and just about everything there is a nice lightning target. Unless there was a need to be out, I wouldn't even think about it.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
It was kinda bad gosh darn it!
Anyway, flew into Chicago on Monday night. There was this little thunderstorm that happened to arrive at the same time I did. The pilot asked for the crew to buckle in early and warned us it might be a little rough.
I had a window seat, and the light show (lightning) was pretty cool on the way in. Bumps and dips were tolerable, and the landing was pretty smooth. We taxied to the terminal and were about 50 feet away when the pilot stops the plane. We were held due to the storm.... for 2 hours!
Buncha pansie ground crew wouldn't take the chance of getting a little lightning strike.. sissies!!!!
:mad:
Chi town sissies. :aok
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Originally posted by Mini D
WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Our plane sat on the tarmac at O'Hare for an hour too. Except there wasn't any lightning. That's how long it took someone to move the jetway out to the plane.
I would rather fly through any other airport in the U.S. (with the possible exception of LAX) than go through O'Hare again.
I might just depend on the airline
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What's Southwest's stance on this issue, Raider? Surely you've run into the problem in your jumpseat travels.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
he was just dazed
I debunked that SWA thing a long while back:rolleyes:
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I hope they served drinks and nuts during that 2 hour wait
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How can one debunk a myth about themselves if they are the myth's creator?
You can say "it was debunked" but not that you debunked said myth.
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Originally posted by Golfer
How can one debunk a myth about themselves if they are the myth's creator?
You can say "it was debunked" but not that you debunked said myth.
it wasn't a myth it was simply a joke that got out of hand
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If the plane gets struck at the terminal while ground operations are going how would it effect the workers?? the planes are grounded they have rubber wheels
Automobiles are 'grounded' by wheels also but lightning still passes right through them. The rubber tyres are a smoldering rubble of melting rubber after a lightning strike. The reason the passengers are protected inside the car is that they're inside a faraday case which protects them from the current.