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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: taylortanklover on October 07, 2006, 10:44:17 AM
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okay me and my friend that moved to florida were talking and i built a model the helldiver and he wondered what did the black sheep squad fly?
so what did they fly?
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Marine Fighter Squadron 214 was commissioned at Ewa Airfield on Oahu, Hawaii in 1942. 214 was relocated to Espiritu Santo, New Hebrides Islands in August 1943. Several sick, lame, wounded, unassigned, or disciplined Marine pilots were in a casual status awaiting orders to a tactical squadron. Some were combat veterans with enemy kills to their credit. Eight F4U Corsairs and 27 of the pilots were assigned to 214 under the command of Major Gregory "Pappy" Boyington who was fresh out of Chenault's Flying Tigers after flying combat missions in China. Pappy and his misfits chose the name "Blacksheep" for VMF-214. The bar sinister black shield of illegitimacy with a black sheep, a Corsair, and a circle of stars depicted their status and how they were established.
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thank u but i found out on you tube
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Just some words of advice...Dont use Youtube.com as a source, or forum to find any information!
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why i seaarched the show and they were flying and f4u so know i know!
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Don't believe everything you see on T.V.
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but that is what they flew isn't it?
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u talking to me?
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Yes.
SuperDud too.
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World War II
Marine Fighter Squadron 214 was originally commissioned on July 1, 1942, at Ewa, on the Island of Oahu, in the Hawaiian group. Initially called the "Swashbucklers, they participated in the Solomon Islands campaign, flying out of Henderson Field on Guadalcanal. They were disbanded following their combat tour and the squadron designation was given to the Marine command on Espiritu Santo. In August 1943, a group of twenty-seven young men under the leadership of Major Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (who was later awarded the Medal of Honor) were joined together to form the original "Blacksheep" of VMF-214. Major Boyington had just returned from a year's tour in China as a member of the American Volunteer Group, "The Flying Tigers." In China, he had downed six enemy planes and became, through actual experience, one of the originators of American fighter tactics against the Japanese.
The call sign "Black Sheep" was chosen by the squadron to commemorate the unusual way in which the Squadron had been formed. The pilots ranged from experienced combat veterans, with several air-to-air victories to their credit, to new replacement pilots from the United States. Major Boyington and Major Stan Bailey were given permission to form the unassigned pilots into a squadron, with the understanding that they would have less than four weeks to have them fully trained and ready for combat. They were very successful.
F4U-1 Corsair of 1st Lt Rolland N. Rinabarger of VMF-214They chose for their badge to carry into battle the black shield of illegitimacy, the bar sinister, a black sheep superimposed, surrounded by a circle of twelve stars, and crowned with the image of their aircraft, the F4U Corsair. What these men accomplished has become Marine Corps history. The Black Sheep squadron fought for eighty-four days. They met the Japanese over their own fields and territories and piled up a record of 203 planes destroyed or damaged, produced eight fighter aces with 97 confirmed air-to-air kills, sunk several troop transports and supply ships, destroyed many installations, in addition to numerous other victories. For their actions, the original Black Sheep were awarded the Presidential Unit Citation for extraordinary heroism in action.
The Black Sheep ended their second combat tour on January 8, 1944, five days after Major Boyington was shot down and captured by the Japanese. The original Black Sheep were disbanded and the pilots were placed in the pilot pool in Marine Aircraft Group 11. Exploits of this incarnation of the unit were loosely fictionalised in the 1970s television series Baa Baa Black Sheep (later renamed The Black Sheep Squadron), starring Robert Conrad as Boyington.
VMF-214 was reformed on January 29, 1944 at MCAS Goleta, near Santa Barbara, California. They deployed aboard the USS Franklin (CV-13) on February 4, 1945. Their mission was to join in operations on Okinawa. On March 19, a Japanese bomber hit the USS Franklin. The explosion and resulting fire caused 772 deaths aboard the Franklin including 32 Black Sheep. Many Black Sheep aircraft were launching for a strike on mainland Japan at the time. One, First Lieutenant Ken Linder, was given half credit for shooting down the Japanese bomber that struck the Franklin. This ended VMF-214 involvement in WWII. In April 1945, the Black Sheep were relocated to El Centro, California, and then to MCAS El Toro, CA in October of 1945. In the next few years, the Black Sheep deployed for operations on board the USS Rendova (CVE-114), the USS Baroko (CVE-115), the USS Badoeng Strait (CVE-116), and the USS Boxer (CV-21).
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History
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World War II
Marine Fighter Squadron 214 was originally commissioned on July 1, 1942, at Ewa, on the Island of Oahu, in the Hawaiian group. Initially called the "Swashbucklers, they participated in the Solomon Islands campaign, flying out of Henderson Field on Guadalcanal. They were disbanded following their combat tour and the squadron designation was given to the Marine command on Espiritu Santo. In August 1943, a group of twenty-seven young men under the leadership of Major Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (who was later awarded the Medal of Honor) were joined together to form the original "Blacksheep" of VMF-214. Major Boyington had just returned from a year's tour in China as a member of the American Volunteer Group, "The Flying Tigers." In China, he had downed six enemy planes and became, through actual experience, one of the originators of American fighter tactics against the Japanese.
The call sign "Black Sheep" was chosen by the squadron to commemorate the unusual way in which the Squadron had been formed. The pilots ranged from experienced combat veterans, with several air-to-air victories to their credit, to new replacement pilots from the United States. Major Boyington and Major Stan Bailey were given permission to form the unassigned pilots into a squadron, with the understanding that they would have less than four weeks to have them fully trained and ready for combat. They were very successful.
F4U-1 Corsair of 1st Lt Rolland N. Rinabarger of VMF-214They chose for their badge to carry into battle the black shield of illegitimacy, the bar sinister, a black sheep superimposed, surrounded by a circle of twelve stars, and crowned with the image of their aircraft, the F4U Corsair. What these men accomplished has become Marine Corps history. The Black Sheep squadron fought for eighty-four days. They met the Japanese over their own fields and territories and piled up a record of 203 planes destroyed or damaged, produced eight fighter aces with 97 confirmed air-to-air kills, sunk several troop transports and supply ships, destroyed many installations, in addition to numerous other victories. For their actions, the original Black Sheep were awarded the Presidential Unit Citation for extraordinary heroism in action.
The Black Sheep ended their second combat tour on January 8, 1944, five days after Major Boyington was shot down and captured by the Japanese. The original Black Sheep were disbanded and the pilots were placed in the pilot pool in Marine Aircraft Group 11. Exploits of this incarnation of the unit were loosely fictionalised in the 1970s television series Baa Baa Black Sheep (later renamed The Black Sheep Squadron), starring Robert Conrad as Boyington.
VMF-214 was reformed on January 29, 1944 at MCAS Goleta, near Santa Barbara, California. They deployed aboard the USS Franklin (CV-13) on February 4, 1945. Their mission was to join in operations on Okinawa. On March 19, a Japanese bomber hit the USS Franklin. The explosion and resulting fire caused 772 deaths aboard the Franklin including 32 Black Sheep. Many Black Sheep aircraft were launching for a strike on mainland Japan at the time. One, First Lieutenant Ken Linder, was given half credit for shooting down the Japanese bomber that struck the Franklin. This ended VMF-214 involvement in WWII. In April 1945, the Black Sheep were relocated to El Centro, California, and then to MCAS El Toro, CA in October of 1945. In the next few years, the Black Sheep deployed for operations on board the USS Rendova (CVE-114), the USS Baroko (CVE-115), the USS Badoeng Strait (CVE-116), and the USS Boxer (CV-21).
were did u get the time to type that?
and english plz not scientific plz!
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Took me about a minute to read.
Freeloader!
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copy and paste from wikipedia ;)
I believe the part "and crowned with the image of their aircraft, the F4U Corsair." answers your original question
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I'm not sure which model they flew in real life, but in the TV show you'd see them in air with a D model (6 .50's) and then when they land I remember seeing 4 cannons. Anybody else remember this? (It's been a long time since I've seen the show)
~CheezHed
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*** Boyington and Major Stan Bailey were given permission to form the unassigned pilots into a squadron, with the understanding that they would have less than four weeks to have them fully trained and ready for combat. They were very successful. ***
4 weeks ? naaah... they could do it in two :)
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Sad such a great thread ended up getting hijacked...
I was lucky enough to interview the Coronel twice on my radio talk show in the early '80s, and we also co-hosted a live airshow on the air as well. He was an totally down to earth guy who had been through more personal problems and adversity than most of us will hopefully never have to see.
They flew Corsairs, and went through a few of the F4U variants as they became available.
Read his book: "Baa Baa Black Sheep", by Col. Greg Boyington. It's one of the easiest, quickest reads you will ever find. He goes into detail on how his drinking problem during the war re-started after his POW days and repatriation back to the States. He even was a "referree" for professional wrestling in the '50's.
The TV show of late '70s fame was reasonably accurate, as Boyington and a few other squad vets served as consultants, but, as Hollywood is, most plotlines were based on fact--but fiction brings ratings. If you look carefully in some of the episodes you will spot Boyington playing a supporting character.
You can even find personally autographed editions of the book on ebay.com, as he toured with many air shows before his passing, and sold the books personally from a military style tent and an old cash change box. I still have mine.
If you are ever at Arlington National Cemetery....my friend is easy to find. He is just across from actor Lee Marvin and boxer Joe Louis...on the main road to the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier.
It's worth the trip.
Respectfully,
ROX
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I think this is an excellent way to close this thread out.