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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Neubob on October 08, 2006, 02:33:03 PM
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Minuteman project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnn7wTgoE8)
Doesn't seem like too popular a notion to the future intellectual elite of this great nation. The guy barely opens his mouth before the stage is stormed, and auditorium overwhelmed.
Has youth always been like this? Rebelling just for the sake of rebelling? Towards the end, a student gives them a mouthful, as chanting overwhelms the audio from the background.
Free speech is a wonderful thing. It's very odd to see it turn into something ugly and downright dangerous.
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Just proves the point.
You dont have to be smart to go to college.
Nor have a brain at all for that matter
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just proves the point.
You dont have to be smart to go to college.
Nor have a brain at all for that matter
College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.
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That was not an example of free speech. It was an example of denial of free speech simply because someone doesn't like the idea of a counter opinion. Sad example of boorishness. Chanting slogans is not an arguement or discussion.
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Originally posted by Neubob
College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.
there is smart and there is educated.
1 doesnt always equal the other and vise verse
Case in point above
I know alot of highly ediucated people who are otherwise complete idiots
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Well, I always liked to think that the smart had a better shot at becoming educated than the dumb, and once educated, were capable of more and greater. I think that the admissions policies at the top schools have been diluted enough to make that notion obsolete.
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Saudi Arabia is building a 900km long "wall" on the border with Irak. They want to keep terrorists and refugees out and see no hope for a stable Irak in the future.
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Ok let me rephrase
There is Book smart and there is common sense stupid.
Often. or. I am sorry to say more often then not there seems to be a direct correlation between education level or I should say book smarts and common sense or lack thereof.
Typically. but not always. the higher the education, the lower the common sense.
There seems to be a tradeoff there.
I see this in my son all the time. Intellectually smart as a whip.
Common sense wise. or when dealing with the super obvious.
Dumb as a doornail.
there are a bunch of times I have looked at him and scratched my head wondering how anyone that smart. can be that dumb
It seems that there is developed a mentality that fails to see the obvious.
Simple things are too simple to understand.
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Really though Just because you go to college doesnt mean your any smarter then anyone else or someone who hasnt.
It just means your more educated in whatever fields of study you have partaken in.
I've known a lot of people whom I or anyone would consider to be super smart who never went to college
and I also know an awful lot of people who have not only masters But are professors whom outside of their specific field, are complete idiots.
In the case of this thread what you are seeing is the latter
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I think you're giving them entirely too much credit. I am all too familiar with the smart morons of which you speak...
These people, however, are behaving like a group of excited monkeys at a zoo. No intellect to speak of. Their anger turned into glee when they successfully broke up the presentation, not to mention the auditorium. A person with academic intelligence would have understood that this sort of acting-out does not create sympathy or support for the cause.
If they did have brain cell one between them, they would chanted their idiocy in English, so that the powers-that-be would better understand them.
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Originally posted by Neubob
College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.
I agree with Dred. Just because you receive a "degree", does NOT mean you learned a thing. Personally, I have found that the "higher the education", Common Sense is extremely lacking, regardless, of race, religion, creed, sex, country of origin, etc.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I agree with Dred. Just because you receive a "degree", does NOT mean you learned a thing. Personally, I have found that the "higher the education", Common Sense is extremely lacking, regardless, of race, religion, creed, sex, country of origin, etc.
My only shock is that a university of a standard would admit people that were capable of degenerating to primate behavior. Possessing superior IQ but lacking common sense is one thing. But being part of a group that turns a peaceful, albeit contraversial presentation into a circus is indicative of more. No common sense. No culture. No ability to control your body when the emotions start to work overtime. These people don't belong at any university. I saw similar behavior during my undergrad days at the University of Maryland, and only after the Terps had a big victory over Duke. Police were brought in, control was re-established, and instigators were rounded up and tossed out.
Admissions policies need to be reviewed at Columbia. Of course, if any changes are made, this video will turn into a rallying cry and the students into martyrs.
Gotta love the PC movement.
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hmm...
Minuteman project.
Ok, lets put our nazi and klan members armed on the border, and when they kill a mexican we can string them up. one stone, 2 birds.
I'm all for it.
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not just any university but columbia university. columbia is the premier school of journalism. this is where the brightest and best go on to jobs in our press corps. yet there isn't one single conservative professor tenured there and we just saw how tolerant and well educated the alumni are. if we think our media is slanted now, wait ten years when these gems and the their recent predecessors start deciding what you and I need to know.
none of these shenanigans come as a shock to me. the mainstream media lost it's objectivity in the early '60s. there is nothing that I want to hear or see from any of the major media outlets outside of Fox News.
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I watched Hannity and Colmes interview two of the protest organizers. According to them the Minuteman speaker had been talking for about 45 mins before the disruption. Doesn't excuse the actions of those shouting down the speaker who was invited to speak but to be fair this should be known. One of the young women seemed ready to overthrow the US government and establish one from Mexico. This is the part I will never understand. If Mexico is so great then why do they come here?
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Originally posted by lukster
If Mexico is so great then why do they come here?
Bigger and better opportunities to complain.
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Intelligence is not required to attend a scheduled speech at a major university. As a matter of fact there is no indication in the clip that many of those folks there were enrolled at the school.
"Common sense" as it was used here in the thread is not necessarily an indicator of intelligence. Most of what we would consider to be examples of "common sense" are indications of experience rather than analysis of any particular situation. At the same time a lack of experience (or experience base) is also not an indicator of lack of intelligence either. Educational institutions do not teach "common sense", they teach other things.
I don't understand why you would fault the school for the behavior of the individuals in the clip. Their behavior was the result of lack of training by their parents who did not teach them respect and manners. The school was supposed to teach them to think not how to behave.
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The university officials obviously never took Mayor Dailey's course "Crowd Control 101."
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Heh human group behaviour at its best.
A pre-staged propaganda coup whipping the dumb masses into a frenzy, orchestrated in a manner Joseph Goebbels himself would have been impressed by.
These people are, in this situation, mere tools. Pressured by their peers, formed by the environment they are in, their reaction is visceral and bears strong resemblance to traits found on other pack animals.
It is sad to see the future 'intellectual elite' reduced to a crowd of sheeple.
Never mind the topic, that's uninteresting. The ease with which even intelligent people can be manipulated with is kind of breathtaking.
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Free jeer
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Originally posted by StSanta
Heh human group behaviour at its best.
A pre-staged propaganda coup whipping the dumb masses into a frenzy, orchestrated in a manner Joseph Goebbels himself would have been impressed by.
These people are, in this situation, mere tools. Pressured by their peers, formed by the environment they are in, their reaction is visceral and bears strong resemblance to traits found on other pack animals.
It is sad to see the future 'intellectual elite' reduced to a crowd of sheeple.
Never mind the topic, that's uninteresting. The ease with which even intelligent people can be manipulated with is kind of breathtaking.
Nailed it there.
How are ya? Haven't see you in the MA in ages.
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I'd love to hear Funked's take on this.
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Originally posted by Booz
hmm...
Minuteman project.
Ok, lets put our nazi and klan members armed on the border, and when they kill a mexican we can string them up. one stone, 2 birds.
I'm all for it.
You do know that the one speaker was african american, and the protesters really flipped out (probably because their arguments/chants/slogans were rendered moot) when the white guy speaker came on stage and hugged the african american speaker.
Funny, I don't recall the clan or the nazi party being multi-cultural as the Min. Man. project is. Also, according to one person who was there, the protesters called the african american MM speaker guy the N. word many times over.
They pretty much lost any moral high ground they might have had at that point.
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