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Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: 1azbaer on October 09, 2006, 12:23:06 AM
I have been running Vista RC1, On a Decked out Dell Inspiron E1505 with 256MB Nvidia video card. 2gb of ram
Rather buggy, Vista seems to drop my wire or wireless connection, game play seemed slow. AS my squadies will atest to, warpping very badly. NO joy in playing this weekend. Other then that sure looks Vista looks pretty.

Reinstalled XP, (deleted Vista) now have spinning clipboard,  game lock up on start up. My laptop is dual core Intel, When new Aces worked with out any issues Tried the AMD 64 fix and ran game in Compatablity mode for 98.  
seems to work fine now and seem really fast. Did try a sortie and no warpping! I dont know if I am missing a up date from Dell for the intel dual core processor.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Hap on October 09, 2006, 01:21:02 AM
1az, I will be very interested to hear what you do to fix your problem.  I've an iMac with a dual core intel that has a spinning clipboard.  Please keep us posted.

hap
Title: Intel dual core
Post by: 1azbaer on October 09, 2006, 08:27:02 PM
Using the compatabilty option seems to of done the trick.
I take it that you are using XP on  the Apple?
I would love to work we any one on getting Aces ported to Linux
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Hap on October 10, 2006, 12:47:06 AM
1az, when I boot to Windows, all I see and interface with is XP Home.  Where is the "compatibility option?"  What is it?  And what is the proper adjustment to fix?

Thanks,

hap
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Irwink! on October 10, 2006, 06:51:43 AM
Hap, the comptibility option can be found by going to the actual executable file in the program files/htc/aceshigh/ directory and right clicking it. Click on properties and you'll see a tab at the top that says "compatibility".
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: x0847Marine on October 10, 2006, 07:06:45 AM
Dont you have to disable 1 core, or something, for AH?
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Simaril on October 10, 2006, 07:57:10 AM
Not any more.

That problem only affected AMD dual processors also running XP, but even for those folks recent patches to XP have solved the problem.

I, for one, run a Core2Duo Conroe with no problems (and a lot of joy...)
Title: reread the post
Post by: 1azbaer on October 10, 2006, 10:40:46 AM
>I AM USING THE INTEL DUAL CORE PROCESSOR<
This wasnt an issue till I loaded the crappy software called Vista.
So far everything is fine, since changing the compatability mode
Title: Re: reread the post
Post by: scottydawg on October 10, 2006, 11:20:27 AM
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Originally posted by 1azbaer
>I AM USING THE INTEL DUAL CORE PROCESSOR<
This wasnt an issue till I loaded the crappy software called Vista.
So far everything is fine, since changing the compatability mode


Well, I sure hope you learned your lesson about Microsoft software. :lol
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: 1azbaer on October 10, 2006, 02:03:52 PM
I work for a nation wide computer service company. Im expecting a huge increase of service calls when this "wonderful piece of software" hits the market.

Is there any one beside me that would love to see a Linux or Apple port?
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Roscoroo on October 10, 2006, 02:14:19 PM
Aces high and alot of other stuff isnt working on my 64 bit Amd with Vista rc2 installed .  the 64 bit version is all Fubared right now and has tons of driver /registry problems . (dont even try to get the 5.1 sound working )

i have the 32 bit rc2 verson but i havent had the time to mess with it yet .

So far the 64 bit vista isnt even close to being ready and its miles behind the 32bit verson IMO .
Title: 64 BITtuen the slow
Post by: 1azbaer on October 10, 2006, 02:32:32 PM
The industry is trying to boat call software deleopement.
Running any 64 bit version of a OS is gonna get you no where but fustration.
64 bit pc world is here or the base is now we have to wait for the rest of the industry to catch up.

It works, but there are no OS plugins, Java, flash ,etc, etc dont work yet. But its coming
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: scottydawg on October 10, 2006, 03:11:49 PM
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Originally posted by 1azbaer
I work for a nation wide computer service company. Im expecting a huge increase of service calls when this "wonderful piece of software" hits the market.

Is there any one beside me that would love to see a Linux or Apple port?


Well I'm an IT manager/sysadmin for a company, and I can guarantee we won't touch Vista until 2008 at the EARLIEST.  The hardware required just to run the OS is ridiculous.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Rolex on October 10, 2006, 04:17:32 PM
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Originally posted by 1azbaer

Is there any one beside me that would love to see a Linux or Apple port?


The question gets posted every once in a while. The short answer is that it would be cheaper for the company to buy people PCs than to port the game.

It's a small company with a dedicated product in a niche market. Boot Camp moots the Apple part now anyway. You probably couldn't get enough potential Linux users together to play a game of basketball.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Skuzzy on October 10, 2006, 04:28:17 PM
And all those Linux users would have adifferent distro, with a different implementation of the graphics, sound, and input systems.

I like Linux, but it is nowhere near ready to be a platform for 3D games.  Until all the distros can get together and establish a common API for graphics, sound, and input, games will always be a hit-n-miss proposition.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Hap on October 11, 2006, 01:07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Irwink!
Hap, the comptibility option can be found by going to the actual executable file in the program files/htc/aceshigh/ directory and right clicking it. Click on properties and you'll see a tab at the top that says "compatibility".


Irwink, since I don't run Vista, and az1's problem is associated with it, does it sound unreasonable to click "compatibility" to see if I can get rid of the spinning clipboard?

hap
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Irwink! on October 11, 2006, 07:06:16 AM
Hap - sure, try the compatibility thing. It won't hurt anything and if it doesn't help or doesn't work at all, just change it back.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Overlag on October 11, 2006, 07:08:09 AM
spinning clipboard was caused by (i thought anyway) AMD A64 dualcore drivers, and nvidia drivers not working well together (due to timings and syncing of two cores). Latest AMD a64 drivers fix that.

However since you are running intel im supprised you have this issue. try disabling powersaving modes in the control panel?
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Skuzzy on October 11, 2006, 07:33:03 AM
It was all dual-core AMD CPU's.  Not just the 64 bit ones.  The problem had to do with the low level clocks of the two cores not being dealt with correctly.  AMD had to do an external driver to fix it.

The problem can exist on any dual core CPU.  If the low level drivers are not done correctly, then the clock problem will be prevalent.  It may be Apple not setting up the initialization of the CPU's the way Windows wants it.
Title: sigh
Post by: 1azbaer on October 11, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
All these people stuck in the dark ages  of Linux.javascript:smilie(':rolleyes:')

I play plenty of 3d games in linux with transgamer (winex) and a few native ports.
Which works on nearly every version of Linux. Sound,  gee most every version I have tried, my sound works out of the "box" no special tweeking, I guess it must be the free programing stuff  form MS.  

Sigh,  so I will continue to use a $200 OS to play a $14.95 per month game.
BOOT CAMP, why spend  $1500 on a Mac to spend another $200 on XP, to play a $14.95 per month game. javascript:smilie(':huh')

Update, I have turned off most of the security features of Vista, (yes I reloaded along with XP and Ubuntu, fedora, suse, debian)
I stiil get warps in Vista ( not as many as before)  wired or wireless. I have also tweeked my router settings.  perhase ican help get Aces ready for Vista, I can see a alot of upset players in the near future.
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Skuzzy on October 11, 2006, 02:03:10 PM
Good for you 1azbear.  I have 3 Linux distros at home.  None of which support my Audigy 2 or Audigy 2 ZS sound card.

None of them support the 3D rendering abilites of my ATI X800XT, or X1900XTX.

Now, I can go all over the Internet and find most things to make the stuff work, but that is the problem, not the solution.

I have been using Linux since Linus released his first version on Usenet.  I like the OS.  It does a lot of cool things.  But it is nowhere near ready for the masses.  It is nowhere near ready to be used as a game developement platform either.

Again, if you spend enough time on the Internet to find stuff, you can make it work, but again, that is the problem and not the solution.

A solution has everything you need readily available.  Here is the acid test.  Ask 100 people how to get a game up and running on Linux who have never used Linux.  Guess what?  None of them will have a clue.  And once they find out how difficult it is, they will never touch Linux again.

Until Linux can shake its 'for geeks only' status, it will never be a mainstream alternative to MS.  I wish it was not true, but it is.
Title: Re: sigh
Post by: Krusty on October 11, 2006, 02:52:25 PM
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Originally posted by 1azbaer
perhase ican help get Aces ready for Vista


That's easy! Take Vista....



.... throw it in the trash....






....Install Aces High on WinXP!



Problem solved!!!!
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Hap on October 12, 2006, 03:18:24 AM
Thanks for the compatibility tab tip.  Things working great!!  Just an awesome AH experience on this Apple.

hap
Title: Vista notes, intel dual core
Post by: Irwink! on October 12, 2006, 06:12:51 AM
Cool!:aok