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Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 10:32:00 AM
I got my framerate somewhat better when "upgraded" my tnt2 to Asus V7700 geforce 2 GTS. Otherwise all looks worse.

I must turn vsync off, otherwise there is blue flicker at bottom of the screen.

Horizon looks blocky with strange triangles.

Lighting effects look really rude(something like raster graphics)

Anyway all 3d effects look like toejam.

Ive tried Detonator v6.5 and 12 drivers, also brand new drivers from Asus all have exact same problems only framerates differ.

Tried different settings with no success, so please help.

Everything else works fine but AH.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 10:50:00 AM
Hell...this is unplayable. I just noticed ground targets disappearing from time to time.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 11:01:00 AM
Make sure in AH game, you do not have Z buffer turned on.  Then go here to download the utility called "GeForce Tweak".  That should take care of your problems.
 http://www.guru3d.com/ (http://www.guru3d.com/)

Note: I use the toggle called "FAST SETTINGS" and AH runs great!
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 11:02:00 AM
Also, what drivers are you using? I suggest getting at LEAST 6.50 or later drivers, I'm using the 7.5XX drivers...I've heard others with good success off the 10.XX drivers as well.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 11:23:00 AM
Thanks rip. I already downloaded "GeForce Tweak" I tried it a bit. Used fast setting but only got slightly better FPS.

I have brand new drivers from Asus.

Well problems are still there.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 11:37:00 AM
hmmm.
 GTU says my direct 3D driver version is unknown.

What should i do?
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 11:45:00 AM
Still problems with lighting and horizon.

Got else more or less worked out.

Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 11:48:00 AM
First, I HIGHLY recommend the Detonator drivers from that same link I gave you.  Then, follow the instructions in the readme for first, deleting your old drivers (gives you a wonderful looking desktop until you get the new drivers loaded...not!) and then installing the new ones.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 11:57:00 AM
I tried about every possible driver already.

6.5
7.5
12.0
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Skuzzy on May 02, 2001, 12:07:00 PM
Did you set the Mipmapping detail to "High quality" versus the default of "Best image" in the D3D settings of the video driver?

You need to do this.

You may also have some of the old TNT drivers still in your system as well.  Depending on how you removed the previous drivers, you may have a big mess on your hands.

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Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 12:10:00 PM
Did you first remove all drivers prior to installing the new ones?  If you did, you end up after re-boot with a very ugle (8 color?) standard VGA driver.  At that point, you then install the new drivers.

Do you have any options selected selected under the VIDEO configuration in Aces High?

What Resolution is your desktop, and what color (32 or 16 bit) are you running on desktop?

Try to coincide the res in AH to that of your desktop.

Make sure you ONLY have the (16 or 32 bit) color and resolution checked in AH, do not check that other crap (Z-buffer, and something else..)
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 12:11:00 PM
If you're seeing 'bands' of lighting and coloring, its because you're in 16-bit color mode.  CHange to 32 bit color if your system/monitor allows it.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 02, 2001, 12:25:00 PM
Im using 32bit palette. Ill send you screenshot Rip. New drivers were installed over standard VGA driver as usual.

[edit]
32bit win display prefs/32bit AH
Mipmap=Blend (middle)
Texel Alignment=7
Vsync=OFF

 

[This message has been edited by illo (edited 05-02-2001).]
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 02, 2001, 01:21:00 PM
Heres what Illo emailed me:
 (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/probimage.jpg)

Illo, you sure you have the Z-buffer UNChecked in the Aces High Video configuration screen?  Both those boxes to the left should be UN-checked.

If they are, then I am clueless as to why this is happening.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: bloom25 on May 02, 2001, 05:25:00 PM
Wow, I run that exact same card.  I'm using Asus' 6.31 drivers.

Illo, first do this:  Update to Direct X 7a if you have 7 or 6.1 still.  (If you can't find 7a, 8a will probably be ok.)  Now, switch to "standard VGA" driver, reboot, and then reinstall the 6.31 drivers.

Now, on AH startup, click video and make sure "enable z-buffer" is unchecked.

Also, in the Direct X driver properties, change mip mapping from "best image" to "high quality."

Illo, what MB do you have?  It it's an Abit KT7 or kt7a, I'd try changing the AGP voltage to 3.3 rather than 3.56 volts.  This has solved many problems with GF2 cards on this MB in the past.




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Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 03, 2001, 06:43:00 AM
I have Direct X 7a.
Asus 6.31c drivers.
No boxes checked in AH video settings.
Mipmapping is set to Blend. (High wont help either)


How can I change AGP voltage to 3.3 volts?
Also how to change my AGP to 4x?


I think i will format my HD, reinstall windows and everything if that doesnt help.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)




[This message has been edited by illo (edited 05-03-2001).]
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: DB603 on May 03, 2001, 07:44:00 AM
S!

 Hello..If I recall right there's a texel alignment setting.U seemed to have it on 7,I had it on 3 when I had a GTS 32Mb.Also the mipmapping should be at high,not highest or lower.Also the newer Detonator's require DirectX 8.0,not 7.0a if I remember right.


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[This message has been edited by DB603 (edited 05-03-2001).]
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on May 03, 2001, 09:33:00 AM
Hi DB  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


I downloaded and installed DirectX 8.
I also installed v10.80 drivers.


Now any 3D stuff freezes my computer and i have to reboot. And theres no way to get rid of DirectX 8.


Also geforce tweak doesnt even find GF2 anymore!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)

[This message has been edited by illo (edited 05-03-2001).]
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Ripsnort on May 04, 2001, 08:46:00 AM
illo, whats the status on your box?  Might want to post your probs in the Guru forum that I posted a link to up above, they're quite smart folks and replies are quick.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: MrSiD on May 04, 2001, 09:04:00 AM
Illo: what are your other system specs?

When you install geforce drivers, it's important to remove the old drivers first by installing standard VGA drivers and after that installing new detonators.

What version of windows you're running?
Windows95 doesn't have support for the latest hardware, if you have it, change to 98SE or W2000.

Also, your videocard might be defect..

Try to open your computer case and make SURE the card is firmly seated in the agp slot. The agp slot is a squeak about shaking the computer...
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: bloom25 on May 06, 2001, 02:10:00 AM
A couple things:  What brand MB do you have?  This determines whether the AGP voltage could be an issue.  I also see that the textel alignment is set to 7.  This is usually set to 3.

If you don't have much to lose, a reformat would be a good idea.  I personally think your driver install got hosed somehow.  No matter how hard you work, short of a complete registry run through, you probably won't be able to fix it.  (You don't happen to be running Windows ME?  If so, I'm sorry.  Windows Me, just like I said it would be, is beginning to show just how bad it really is.  It's basically win98 SE kernal with 2000's graphics and all the bugs of both combined into one.)



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Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: WhiteHawk on May 16, 2001, 03:16:00 AM
Might try to reinstall the game itself.
Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: Defiance on May 16, 2001, 11:49:00 AM
Illo,
     Read about DX8 in ya post
You can d/load  DX-Uninstaller
I used it a few times in the past it works great
Dunno addy but a search for it will get ya addy

Here you are goto files/dx-uninstaller 5-8 http://www.tweaktown.com (http://www.tweaktown.com)

Def

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Title: Problems with new Geforce 2 GTS 32mb
Post by: illo on July 02, 2001, 09:13:00 AM
Thanks all  :)


Im using win98se in Athlon 650Mhz.
Im not sure about mainboard brand. Manual doesnt say that either!!!! Only text "M7MKA system board" in manual cover.


Im going to army soon so Im not playing AH anyways in near future.


Now ill go out to sunshine...sit down and smoke a cigarette  :D


See you online someday!   :eek:

[ 07-02-2001: Message edited by: illo ]