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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Bueller67 on October 09, 2006, 01:39:04 PM
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No idea if anyone wants to reply to this or not.
I flew Fighter Ace for probably 5 years on a pretty serious level. I mainly flew German aircraft and was a member of two prominent squads that were very active almost daily. I quit because the game got very stale and I could no longer take the poor modeling of the German aircraft which put you at an immediate disadvantage.
How does AH compare to FA for those that have flown both?
Does AH have the padlock feature like FA has?
Does AH offer rooms that feature historic battles with a purpose for the various countries to gain ground across a map?
Is it worth my time to set up a subscription and give AH a try after spending so many years with FA?
Thanks for replies.
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Give it a try.
You can play the first two weeks at no cost. :aok
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Buehller,
Quite a few of us came from FA, I left FA back in 01 after racking up kills at an unprecedented pace.
The GE rides in here are beasts, the flight modeling will take some getting use to though, as it is a different experience. Padlock, yes, but i never use it :P
Yes there are earlier arenas set, and yes you should subscirbe :P
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Originally posted by Bueller67
No idea if anyone wants to reply to this or not.
I flew Fighter Ace for probably 5 years on a pretty serious level. I mainly flew German aircraft and was a member of two prominent squads that were very active almost daily. I quit because the game got very stale and I could no longer take the poor modeling of the German aircraft which put you at an immediate disadvantage.
How does AH compare to FA for those that have flown both?
Havn't flown FA in a long time, but AH is just supurb.
Does AH have the padlock feature like FA has?
Yes, except it will not track the target when the target is behind an obstruction.
Does AH offer rooms that feature historic battles with a purpose for the various countries to gain ground across a map?
Yes
Is it worth my time to set up a subscription and give AH a try after spending so many years with FA?
I think you will be pleased if you do.
Thanks for replies. [/B]
Your welcome
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Hitech...
:lol
:D
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flowy? Im sorry, another typo. PS Listen to HT hes the designer :P
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Just to be clear, Bueller, you just got a reply to your question from the game designer, the creator and Lord High Master of AH.
Cinsider that another plus....excellent customer responsiveness.
Give it a try. Its the most fun I've ever had computer gaming, and the only program that's held my interest for more than a couple months (2.5 years and counting in AH). Some players ahve been here 6-7 years.
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Originally posted by Bueller67
How does AH compare to FA for those that have flown both?
The modeling in AH is much better.
Does AH have the padlock feature like FA has?
Yes.
Does AH offer rooms that feature historic battles with a purpose for the various countries to gain ground across a map?
Not in the same way that FA did. We have the AvA arena that has historical planesets going against eachother with weekly changes in the setting, but not the free for all bit that FA had. That wouldn't really work. The Ki-67 carries about 1,700lbs of bombs, and it was Japan's best bomber. Compare that to the 6,000 and 8,000 of the B-17 and B-24 or the 14,000lbs of the Lancaster.... It would not be a fair fight.
Is it worth my time to set up a subscription and give AH a try after spending so many years with FA?
Yes, it is much better in my opinion.
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Holy cow, thanks for quick replies. Does AH have something similar to TC or Territorial Combat like FA has? I am not a big fan of flying around willy nilly with no purpose to win a room. So padlock drops if the target moves behind something. Cool. Thanks a ton for the comments. I know many serious players that left FA for the same reasons I left almost 2 years ago. I wonder how many turned up at AH and are happy.
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Yes you can capture Territory.
HiTech
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Originally posted by Bueller67
Holy cow, thanks for quick replies. Does AH have something similar to TC or Territorial Combat like FA has? I am not a big fan of flying around willy nilly with no purpose to win a room. So padlock drops if the target moves behind something. Cool. Thanks a ton for the comments. I know many serious players that left FA for the same reasons I left almost 2 years ago. I wonder how many turned up at AH and are happy.
I played FA about three or four years ago for a short time. It was fun but, IMHO, at that time it was more "arcade" like than AH. FA for instance, had the view (can't remember what they called it) where you couldn't see any part of your own plane. Made for some ridicuously easy deflection shots and 100% visibility on your enemy since there wasn't a nose or canopy bow getting in the way. AH is superior.
Mace
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Some guys spend vast majority of their time furballing, some guys spend vast majority of their time in tank battles, some guys spend vast majority of their time capturing territory.....I think the base-capture part/winning the war provides a context in which to blow each others' brains out:aok (The rest of us just hang out in here)
P.S. download the game (free), play it offline for a bit untill you learn controls, flight model, etc-- make the most of your 2 week freebie---even if ya haven't decided by then, the 8 man rooms are ALWAYS free
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Originally posted by Bueller67
Holy cow, thanks for quick replies. Does AH have something similar to TC or Territorial Combat like FA has? I am not a big fan of flying around willy nilly with no purpose to win a room. So padlock drops if the target moves behind something. Cool. Thanks a ton for the comments. I know many serious players that left FA for the same reasons I left almost 2 years ago. I wonder how many turned up at AH and are happy.
Once you use the Aces High View System ... you won't want to use padlock.
Aces High has the best and most fluent viewing system that I have ever used.
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Bueller67 , your gonna enjoy this , trust me I played both .
But it's quite a bit differant than your used to atm . Give it alot of time matie . The learning curve is gonna be there for a bit . Useing hat views v paddock for one . The flight model another , this is lots better imo but it's alot differant than your used to atm also . Also don't bother shooting till it shows 200d or mostly it's just a waste of ammo . Some shots are ok out to 600d but they gonna have to be lvl and straight to hit and you won't be doing that in any German ride , need 50's :)
The bb board here is a mine just full of treasure on the game . Just use the search function .
Hope you enjoy this as much as I have , the learning for me is still going on yet :eek: hehe .
cu up
spro
Edit : The MA is Territorial Combat , this game has the same flight model in ALL ROOMS unlike FA unless that has changed which I doubt .
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Thanks for all the quick replies. I think I'll have to dust off the old MS stick and give this a try. I assume squads in AH use things like team sound or similar communication software to talk to each other?
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Neg, the AH com system is first rate, no need for Team Speak or such like.
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Originally posted by Bueller67
Thanks for all the quick replies. I think I'll have to dust off the old MS stick and give this a try. I assume squads in AH use things like team sound or similar communication software to talk to each other?
Better than that! AH is unique (at least as far as I know) in that it has its own VOX built into it. There is the Range Radio which allows you to verbally communicate with any countryman within range and then there is the Channel Radio where you tune your radio to a specific channel and communicate regardless of distance. There is nothing to install or even configure. It is part of the install and pretty much just works. It is second to none (IMHO).
One other thing about the viewing system that has not been mentioned. If you have Track IR, AH2 is one of the only flight games to support all six degrees of freedom. Once you try TIR with AH you will NEVER want to put your thumb on a POV again!
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Bueller67, I've flown Aces High on and off for must be close to 4 years now. Lots of fun. Yes to all your questions. I don't know about Fighter Aces. I fly the FW190-D quite a bit. A monster plane. You'll like it.
hap
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Originally posted by airspro
Also don't bother shooting till it shows 200d or mostly it's just a waste of ammo . Some shots are ok out to 600d but they gonna have to be lvl and straight to hit and you won't be doing that in any German ride , need 50's :)
I disagree, I consistently get hits with K4 spud gun at d600-800 in maneuver fights
same with d9
But I do love this game to death, and encourage anyone interested to give it a try!
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As was mentioned, to make the best of your free trial period download the game and fly offline for a period of time.
It can be boring as heck but you will learn the flight model, some of the gunnery model and some game commands and be in a better position for your online trial.
Be advised offline is not a true representation of online play in that the offline drones can fly around with maximum damage and not be effected. You basically have to get them to explode to kill them.
Visit http://www.netaces.org, one of the best help sites for the game, in addition to the help files. Netaces does have a Quick Reference Guide you can print with most of the commands on it.
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"padlock"? what th heck is that??
j/k....I know what it is, but never use it. As someone has already said, HTC's view system is so fluent I don't need it. OTOH, after seeing films of others using that tracking thingy you wear on your head...now THAT's something I could get into!
edit: Oh yeah, it's called TrackIR.
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Improvements, like new maps in the main arenas, are non existant.. you will soon get very bored of seeing the same DULL maps again and again... but have no choice but to game on them.
The game play is good enough to get past the stale maps, but there is lots of room for improvements.
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To put it bluntly AH rocks, best WW2 multiplayer game out there, i'd highly recomend it! :aok :aok :aok
P.S. It just needs a heavily perked B-29 and an atom bomb! :D
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x0847Marine: Got to luv it, put out a map less than 3 weeks ago.
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Whatever you do, Do Not Join A Scenario or any of the number of events that are produced. Just don't do it. We consider it a pleasure if the players have a life outside of AH, and if you get sucked into the events, you are Lost and will never come out again, so just avoid them at all costs.
:D
http://www.ahevents.org/site/
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
Improvements, like new maps in the main arenas, are non existant.. you will soon get very bored of seeing the same DULL maps again and again... but have no choice but to game on them.
The game play is good enough to get past the stale maps, but there is lots of room for improvements.
Anyone that gets tired of the Maps is not doing enought to get the Full Aces High experience. The Main Arena's is only half the experience. I will remind everyone that there is a whole bunch of Special Events that are scheduled on the Events server that allows for a whole extra dimention to the game. Visit http://www.ahevents.org to see all the activities available. Bueller, you will be interested in the FSO (Friday Squad Ops.) historical based activity on Friday nights. Also, the KOTH (King of the Hill) event is a blast as is the AHXARL (Racing League). There is more than enough stuff to keep you busy for years and years at AH. Just pop in and get active in everything, and you will never get bored.
Regarding the German planes, I never played FA, but the German planes are very competetive. They take lots more skill to fly well than most of the Allied planes, but that is part of the attraction for me. I am sure you will find the flight modeling of the German planes very good compared to FA. The 109K-4 is one of the best planes in the entire planeset as is the 190D-9, but in my opinion, it takes much more skill to fly the 190. I stick to the 109G-14 mostly since I love the 30mm tater cannon, and it turns a bit better than the 109K-4. Look me up after 9:00 pacific time usually, and I will help you get up to speed. Good luck.
Edit: Rats, ROC beat me to the punch. :aok
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Bueller67 I've been here a little over four months. I was invited to join a squad and I'm really glad I did. That said don't necessarily jump at the first squad that contacts you. This is a great game and I absolutely love it in spite of some of the things a lot of people gripe about. The learning curve is STEEP so don't expect to be great first rattle out of the box but if you are come teach me ;)
Lots of good folks and don't draw an opinion on a group of people just because you hear negative feedback about them on the boards.
And if you want to go fly in the ta sometime pm me and I'll meet you there if we can. I need all of the practice I can get.
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Originally posted by LEADPIG
To put it bluntly AH rocks, best WW2 multiplayer game out there, i'd highly recomend it! :aok :aok :aok
P.S. It just needs a heavily perked B-29 and an atom bomb! :D
Okay dude This AND CALL OF DUTY Are the best WWII games out there lol:noid
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Originally posted by Bueller67
No idea if anyone wants to reply to this or not.
Is it worth my time to set up a subscription and give AH a try after spending so many years with FA?
Thanks for replies.
There's a bunch of us over here From FA . Most of us made this our perma Home By the time FA 2.5 shut down .
The Flight model is more like the Full realism but without the "Dot Zoom kill" that was happening in FA3 ..
There's tons of map/terrain/plane skin development here ,and the players are encoraged to create.
We have alot of the same Special events here , but we have access to build them as we see fit .
The most important thing here in Aces High is Customer support ... its 1st class all the way .
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Bueller... Buelller.... Bueller.
http://www.naturalpoint.com
works with Aces high... watch the films.
Welcome
Balsy
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Originally posted by Noisyfeet
Okay dude This AND CALL OF DUTY Are the best WWII games out there lol:noid
Go back to FPS. This is flight sim
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Noisyfeet,
So Bin Laden is in Iraq? Where's he hiding? Right next to the WMDs?
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Once you get a little comfortable with Aces High I suggest signing up for a scenario. They are well thought out and planned by volunteers of the Aces High Community.
Proper aircraft are selected for the timeperiod and the Maps that are made for the scenarios are absolutely gorgeous! The time put in by the CM Team is huge. Terrains are made with great care and accuracy. Scenarios are modeled after actual events usually. The skins for the aircraft are very well made and absolutely gorgeous. The AH Community has the best skinners I've ever seen. They have to be accurate and detailed before they are accepted by HTC.
The wealth of knowledge concerning WWII Air Combat in this Community is also second to none. Widewing and Guppy are a veritable encyclopedia of Aircraft of the WWII era.
The modeling is superb...best I've ever seen in many years of simming. And the view setup is the best in any game....and I do mean any.
Also...at sign up for a mere 9.99$ you can purchase a Dale Addink Translator....which makes his Posts almost understandable and readable:)
Just kidding HT...don't send 23k volts back through my Cable Modem please!:aok
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Bueller I dont recall your nick but maybe you would remember me.
I stopped playing FA about 14 months ago. I left because I could see the numbers dwindling and it didnt challenge me no longer.
I played for 5 years and went out on top.
Im very happy in AH and once you learn the whole gameplay side of it its 10 times better.
Bruv
~S~
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Bruv119, I never flew under the nick Bueller. But I was a long time LUFT pilot back in their hay days. Switched to Condor Legion for a while and eventually gave up on FA all together after almost 7 years total.
Thanks a ton for all the replies from everyone. I loaded the game and flew a little off line last night. Seems complicated right now because I need to learn all the key commands. Actual flying seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hajo: Zaaaaap,zooow,zz zz zzfff :lol
HiTech
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this will help you with key / dot commands .
one page ah commands pdf (http://www.netaces.org/ahsetup/ahquickref110.pdf)
also Net aces (http://www.netaces.org) is a huge help.. along with the help files here .
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Originally posted by hitech
x0847Marine: Got to luv it, put out a map less than 3 weeks ago.
It was so exciting I didn't notice... the endless green scratch pad ground tends to hypnotize me into thinking they all the same.
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Originally posted by hitech
x0847Marine: Got to luv it, put out a map less than 3 weeks ago.
you also halfed the amount of maps that run about 5 weeks ago....