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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 09, 2006, 10:09:11 PM
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I use flexall 454, but my wife says it sets her on fire. She's getting a little muscle and knee pain from the new stair stepper machine, so we're looking for something she can use that doesn't burn and won't be hard on her skin (she's real sensitive, she was a natural blonde that went natural redhead, with very fair skin), but will still ease the pain. Any suggestions? Maybe something without menthol? We're both back to working out, and if I can help her keep going it'll help me, and I need it bad, my 52" chest and 32" waist went to a 44" chest and 38" waist, I bet my body fat percentage is through the roof. I'm getting tired of getting out of breath when I bend over to tie my shoes because my fat gut keeps me from inhaling.
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ok thas alot of information we dont care about.. just post some pictures of your wife and I'm sure we will give you more advice than you will ever need.:rolleyes:
oh and far as topical remedies-- NO PAIN NO GAIN!:aok
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He he he; you said, "anal".
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Im in the same boat Savage. I really wanna workout...but its just too much like work. I get depressed just thinking about it, and makes me wanna eat something.
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I use voltaren
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You may have to change your philosophy. Instead of trying to fix injury after it happens, prevent the injury in the first place.
Swimming may be for you... no impact on the joints. Knee pain comes from impact, however slight.
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I workout on a rowing machine those days I can't get on the lake. Full body workout, I have been rowing for 20 years and I have never been hurt on the machine or in a boat. When I ran, before I bought the machine, I was constantly feeling bad effects along with the benefit I was getting.
I have also heard the philosophy that "pain is just weakness leaving the body."
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Uh, yeah, well, thanks for the help.
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I agree on avoiding the injury to begin with. I recommend riding a bicycle because you don't strain the knees, and you don't have impact injuries, yet you are able to work some major muscle groups. I'd get a 5 speed beach cruiser type bike. If you get a more efficient bike, you just have to ride longer for your workout.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I'm getting tired of getting out of breath when I bend over to tie my shoes because my fat gut keeps me from inhaling.
well, i switched to shoes with velcro straps, :D
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This really IS the O'Club. I got everything but an answer to the original question.
I don't need, want, or have room for, a rowing machine.
I already have a bicycle (we have several). I have a weight bench and weights. And we have a stair stepper.
No one is being injured, we're both suffering some pain from working out.
I'd just really like to find some sort of pain relief cream for my wife to make her life a little easier when she exercises. The menthol and pepper oil based creams burn her skin.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Im in the same boat Savage. I really wanna workout...but its just too much like work. I get depressed just thinking about it, and makes me wanna eat something.
Yeah, it's way too much like work. And I like to eat way too much (that's why I learned to cook, which is probably a BAD thing). That's how I got to 228# at 6' 2" tall. Everything I eat either turns to crap or goes to my waist.
At 43, I'm becoming concerned about my health again, seriously. Provided I don't get killed racing, riding my Harley (if I ever get it back together), or hunting, family history shows I can probably make 80 or so, I'd like to be healthy enough to enjoy it as opposed to just having extra years of miserable health. I'd like to keep my health good enough that if I get time and the chance I can get a pilot's license.
Honestly, if I get to live as long as family history shows, I don't want to be dragging around an O2 bottle behind a scooter from the scooter store.
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Never heard of a topical pain medication that wasn't menthol or capsium based.
Did you think about taking an aspirin or tylenol?
If you don't want to take anything systemically, get some of those magnets embedded in a small patch (looks like a round Band-Aid). Surprisingly, they really do work for muscle and joint pain. I was skeptical, but not anymore.
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I use some stuff called BIOFREEZE (http://biofreeze.com/) gel. Its has a light mint odor and its blue in color but disappears when applied to the skin. It works great on my knee (1 ACL rebuild and 4 scopes on it) and stays with me all day when I am working out at a customers job site.
I buy it from this company Biofreeznow (http://biofreezenow.com/).
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I skip the creams and go straight to vitamin M (Motrin).
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get a hand held electric massager, they come with adjustable heat and vibration settings. they work good on sore muscles.
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Originally posted by Rolex
Never heard of a topical pain medication that wasn't menthol or capsium based.
Did you think about taking an aspirin or tylenol?
If you don't want to take anything systemically, get some of those magnets embedded in a small patch (looks like a round Band-Aid). Surprisingly, they really do work for muscle and joint pain. I was skeptical, but not anymore.
magnets are the best. i have a shoulder collar with magnets in it that i wear under a t shirt if my neck and back are in a bad way (broken my neck twice and still walkin! wuhooo) i really honestly wouldnt have believed it, but magnets can stop amost all the muscal and bone pain i get, and trust me, i get alot.
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I feel your pain!
On the far side of 60 and paying for all my youthful indiscretions ... I use http://www.sorenomore.com/.
Also you can make a "bean bag" filled with just plain rice or buckwheat seeds, sewn into a towel, heat to whatever temperature you wish in the microwave and apply it to sore spots.
Good luck ...
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Try stretching for a good 10 minutes before you work out.. When your done eat foods with ALOT of protein because they help your ripped up muscles rebuild faster, and i noticed that the pain isn't as bad during the rebuild period. Hot baths work really good for sore muscles too.
no pain no gain. My chest is still sore right now, from working out on sunday.
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depending on where the pain is I'd recommend ibuprofren for joint pain and proper warmup and rest for the muscle pain. A mistake a lot of people make when they're just getting into a workout routine is they go at it like gangbusters at first and cause themselves a lot of unnecessary pain which usually forces them out of the routine. Start slow, warm up properly, strech properly, then set a goal of say 10 minutes. Ya I know it doesn't sound like much but the first 21 days is when you build the 'habit' of working out where you 'miss' it when you don't. I'm assuming you and your wife are in it for the long haul so day 1 do 10 minutes, day 2 do 12, and so on until you are at your goal.
Also for FAST fat loss if you can find the time do split cardio and eat the 5 to 7 meals per day. This keeps your metabolism at a high rate throughout the day and will really start dropping those pounds.
A very good suppliment for reducing muscle pain is creatine. It's not illegal and as far as I know does a good job of speeding up muscle repair and helping with the soreness.
When I was working out regularly (which I hope to be doing again soon considering I've got a freaking gym in my house) I used products from http://www.maxmuscle.com/. There's a wealth of advice and suppliments there that I swear by.
Lastly for lower body pain / injuries I recommend putting a phone book under the foot of your bed instead of trying to sleep with your foot on a pillow. You only need to elevate the injured area slightly above the heart to keep the swelling down and people roll off of pillows when they sleep.
If you feel you have to use heat go for a hot pack that she can warm to her tolerance. I use the hottest stuff I can find but I can understand having a fair skinned wife. Mine recently jacked her knee up and the heat pad really worked better for her.
Good luck
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Originally posted by MrBill
I feel your pain!
On the far side of 60 and paying for all my youthful indiscretions ... I use http://www.sorenomore.com/.
Also you can make a "bean bag" filled with just plain rice or buckwheat seeds, sewn into a towel, heat to whatever temperature you wish in the microwave and apply it to sore spots.
Good luck ...
good idea... never thought of that one
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Thera-gesic....dosent anyone listen to Paul Harvey?
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Good question....I just use the good ole Advil.
However, you might try Bio-Freeze. My chiropractor has samples at his office all the time. If it has a website, I'll check.
My goal was to get under 180 before the end of the year. I'm 5'10 and my BMI says I should be 168 (rigggght!) I gave up all sodas back in July and weighed 197. I'm 178 now and have been doing a super healthy diet, try to walk 3-4 miles 3 times a week and stick to just waters/teas/juices (I've developed a liking for pomergranates, an excellent antioxidant as well)
Keep at it
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I've used Aspercreme before with exellent results. I have very sensitive skin (I can tell you what detergent my clothes were washed in sight unseen) and Aspercreme does'nt bother it a bit.
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Originally posted by Dace
Thera-gesic....dosent anyone listen to Paul Harvey?
i thought he had been replaced by junior harvey. havent heard the show in a long time...not even sure we get it here.
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Like Reschke said, Biofreeze. It can be a little intense though so you might want to see if you can get some sample packs, if you go to a chiropractor they might have some. Stuff works wonders, i've also heard those pain relieving pads work well too but i've no personal use.
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I don't know what an analgesic cream is, but I used IcyHot extensively for aches and pains when we were doing a lot of running in the police academy. I was happy with it.
I had a lot of knee problems in the police academy (turned out it was fractured but doctors thought it was a torn meniscus at the time), and of course lots of ice helped. Another thing that I swore by was lying down against a wall, so your head is on the floor, and your feet are in the air supported by the wall, and your waist is at a 90 degree angle. I'd do that when studying, in the morning before PT, and again whenever I had the chance. Reduced swelling and joint pain by a ton.
I assume you know all of the other pain prevention/treatment stuff like stretching, RICE, and alternative exercises.
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You'd be surprised what a single aspirin or over the counter pain reliever will do.... as for the muscle pain, that is lactic acid built up from working the muscles.... drink plenty of fluids. If she is experiencing joint pain try glucosamine chondroitin it is a dietary suppliment.
My Wife is a Certified Aerobics Instructor / Trainer
She uses BIOFREZE but suggests that your wife not use it as it along with most all topicals will feel hot.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
This really IS the O'Club. I got everything but an answer to the original question.
Geeze... Sorry... when you said knee pain... I thought...
Well, in my experience, as I don't have arthritis, joint pain generally comes repetative impact injury. When I ran, I felt it occasionally. When I did not excercise with impact, ie swimming or rowing, no joint pain.
I thought it was terrific when I could work out and not get sore.... but if you want to go the drugs route, you can.
As Barry Bonds says, "Better Fitness Through Better Chemistry"
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Biofreeze ... that stuff is awsome.
Tiger Balm is great too, but it burns like hell.:D
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Jacuzzi.
culero (word, dood :))
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Originally posted by culero
Jacuzzi.
culero (word, dood :))
Not on MY budget. I'm saving up for a new race car (69 Chevelle 427 A/SA).
Besides, I don't have the room, and the house isn't going to benefit value wise from it.
Now, I got her same Ace Bandage style knee supports, and some Blue Emu cream. She's happy, and was able to do a full workout tonight. She's working into it.
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Good to hear, just don't do what my parents do, buy $2000 of equipment and use it 5 times and stop.