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Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on October 10, 2006, 05:46:30 AM
Oi dweebs!
I used to fly the AH skies way back when as bmbm and popped in occasionally to check things out as brumm and brrrrt (lol). Good times indeed, and I'm happy to see that the sim and its community is still thriving.

Harkening back to my old WB days and using subsequent experience gained here and in other sims, I sat down and scratched out my own Guide to massively multiplayer online air combat sims. This I called "In Pursuit" and offered gratis as a pdf file here (http://www.pilotpress.shorturl.com) since December last year. Following intense lobbying from friends (heh) I have now gone to the trouble of editing the thing, correcting various embarrassing errors and completely redesigning the illustrations, in addition to writing much new text, crowning this work with publishing it at Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9197607703/amzna9-1-20/ref=nosim?dev-t=D26XECQVNV6NDQ%26camp=2025%26link_code=xm2) for your enjoyment and possible erudition. The pdf will remain for free and online for the duration, though in the original (unedited) form.

This has been a community broadcast, I now leave you to resume your normal kibitizing :D Bmbm, out.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: FiLtH on October 10, 2006, 08:45:27 AM
I just un-subscribed from ww2ol for the 3rd time. Third times a charm. This time I only kept it a month and got in about 5 hours play. That pic you have for the cover of In Pursuit is deceiving. There is no blue sky in ww2ol :)

   I didnt get to the rest of it, but will later. Good idea.

   To get the experience of ww2ol, play AH with really dark sunglasses on.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 10, 2006, 09:10:07 AM
wow, good luck with that, great idea and thanks.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: MOSQ on October 10, 2006, 11:50:19 AM
Seems I'm 80% Grognard and 20% Funseeker.


Good and interesting write up!
Title: Re: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Magellan on October 10, 2006, 07:28:03 PM
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Originally posted by BMBM
I used to fly the AH skies way back when as bmbm and popped in occasionally to check things out as brumm and brrrrt (lol).


Wow, BomBom what a blast from the past. Glad to see you're still around--and nice work btw!
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Post by: FBplmmr on October 10, 2006, 10:12:31 PM
I'm all out of gratis ... may i have it free?:D
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Sundowner on October 11, 2006, 05:18:52 AM
Great read!

Thanks for the time and effort it took to produce this!

Regards,
Sun
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on October 11, 2006, 05:59:50 AM
Thankee all!
Hey mags, good to see you.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Magellan on October 12, 2006, 08:12:13 PM
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Originally posted by BMBM
Hey mags, good to see you.


You decided to drop the Nati-nati? :)  

 If you have a chance, stop by MacAW list  (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MacAW/) and make an announcement about your publication. It's not as lively as our old home on CIS, but some of the Shadow Riders hang there: QD, Fogy, Bull to name a few.

Keep the pointy end going forward!

Magellan
awMags
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No challenge, no honor
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: JB88 on October 13, 2006, 12:38:14 AM
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Originally posted by Magellan
You decided to drop the Nati-nati? :)  

 If you have a chance, stop by MacAW list  (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MacAW/) and make an announcement about your publication. It's not as lively as our old home on CIS, but some of the Shadow Riders hang there: QD, Fogy, Bull to name a few.

Keep the pointy end going forward!

Magellan
awMags
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No challenge, no honor



nice indeed.

<>

88
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on November 11, 2006, 01:46:52 PM
FYI, "In Pursuit" is now available also at Amazon.co.uk Linky (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pursuit-Pilots-Guide-Online-Combat/dp/9197607703/sr=11-1/qid=1163153852/ref=sr_11_1/202-1054582-5955821)

and at Amazon.ca, just in case :)
Linkee (http://www.amazon.ca/Pursuit-Pilots-Guide-Online-Combat/dp/9197607703/sr=11-1/qid=1163176177/ref=sr_11_1/701-8177129-0549930)
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Treize69 on November 11, 2006, 01:54:53 PM
Bought a copy. Glad to see something like this (and support its author), plus I can strategically leave it lying around at work to get a few of my aviation-enthusitast co-workers interested. :t
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Post by: Treize69 on November 18, 2006, 07:40:43 PM
EXCELLENT resource, I rccomend it for anyone who flies. Points out a lot of the minor mistakes we all make, plus its written from the POV of someone with the same approach to flying and fighting that I try to follow, so its been a big eye opener for me.

Also I noticed a lot of stuff that I used to do and have moved away from, and have taken a big hit in my survivability and Kill : Death ratio as a result of. A lot of the rules I followed religiously in the AvA I've moved away from, and have lost a lot of proficiency as a result. As I've been reading through, I frequently remember using the tactic he describes properly- and just often I can recall a recent situation where I should have used them and instead got suckered into a furball or a turnfight simply because I forgot all the things I should know.

Kinda irritating to have your errors pointed out at you, but also helps to be reminded of what works and what doesn't.

Plus its kinda cool to see names of guys I remember from WB in print in there, always brings a smile to my face. I also wonder if I was one of the ones shot down in honing those skills.... :)
Title: Great Piece of Work <S>
Post by: jedi25 on November 18, 2006, 09:30:12 PM
This is a awesome piece of work..

You should consider publishing a book ...... :aok

Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on November 20, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
Thanks a bunch Treize, appreciate the feedback. Now if only I could get someone to add similar feedback to the Amazon page


:D :D
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Treize69 on November 23, 2006, 05:11:34 PM
Your wish is my command. :)
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Post by: airspro on November 23, 2006, 05:52:49 PM
NP , glad to help .

I have it on my Christmas list for wife and kids to get for me :)
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: mustard on November 24, 2006, 09:47:47 AM
funny, seriously, i was reading it this morning for twenty mins. seems i stuffed myself yesterday. your book has the most easily reachable space in my "library".
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Post by: TexMurphy on November 24, 2006, 10:26:48 AM
BMBM

Great write up.. will enjoy reading it over the weekend...

Btw are you swedish? If so from where?

<--- from Göteborg..

Tex
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on November 24, 2006, 11:38:06 AM
thanks :)
The BMBM hails from Stockholm, Sweden.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: TexMurphy on November 24, 2006, 12:03:08 PM
Cool...

You associated with any of the swedish virtual squadrons?

Tex
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on November 24, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
I used to run one, in WB, but that's long since now. I quit flying three years ago on account of RL issues ( = wife lol).
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Treize69 on November 24, 2006, 03:47:41 PM
Ah.

Wife-ack is uber. ;)
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Messiah on November 25, 2006, 03:11:17 AM
OMG bmbm is that you?  From ww2ol?  I was in your 56th FG squad callsign "Madness" like years ago.  LOL nice to see you still fly.  I've been flying here in AH ever since I left ww2ol, it's alot better imo as far as air combat goes.  It's a shame you don't fly anymore, but good to see ya again.
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: TexMurphy on November 25, 2006, 05:28:05 AM
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Originally posted by BMBM
I used to run one, in WB, but that's long since now. I quit flying three years ago on account of RL issues ( = wife lol).


Thats a shame.. :(

So you dont fly anything at all these days and still write a book that good?

Tex
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: BMBM on November 26, 2006, 03:55:03 AM
Hey Madness - great to see yas :)
Found these (abridged) AARs with your name in em.

July 16: Bertrix Smack Down (again)
   Wingpairs are: Bmbm/Madness, Rebel357/Jblade, Ogrenutz/Kcornett. The first two pairs are on the same RW frequency while Ogre and Kc (VFA25) are on their own channel. All share the mission channel though. We climb out southeast to 4500 and start a left orbit over the target while waiting for dawn. Madness and I are top element. Before daybreak, Rebel and Jblade engage a couple of bandits, shooting down two. We continue to orbit, eventually letting down to 3000 meters.

Shortly after dawn the field comes alive with lufties eager to support their ground troops. Precious few of them check their six as they motor out, and are unceremoniously shot out of the sky. Some leak through though, mainly because Ogre and Kcornett are having problems with acquiring the enemy against the still dark ground. Kcornett is a fresh recruit to boot, so our third element isn’t as effective as could be hoped for. This compels us to leave the high perch and let down to engage.

I don’t remember the individual kills, but I do remember the excellent wingmanship of Madness, and that Rebel357 and Jblade remain in the area until they’ve expended all their ammunition. I also remember missing a few easy shots and seeing Madness finishing off the rotter - I do the same for him later on. Swooping down with a few seconds of separation on the leader, the wingman usually gets a very good shot at the recovering target. Having shot down a number of badguys, I’m eventually down to popguns, and hand over the lead to Madness. He strikes down two more enemy before he too is virtually out of ammunition. By this time Rebel357 and Jblade are on their last leg home, and Ogre and Kc have gone down over Bertrix.

Having played around a bit with a 110 near Wellin, soon to be despatched by Mick, we return to base to count our kills: I score 7, Madness 3, and the other four guys score 6 between them. That makes 16 victories for 2 losses, in a sortie that lasts 1 hour 47 min - 1 hr 20 min on station.

Signed: BMBM, CO 56th FG


Sunday, July 28: Reims Intercept
56th takes off Cambrai-Niergnies at 20:10, somewhat delayed, and starts the weary climb to altitude on a southeasterly heading. We have four elements (8 pilots) and have just completed one full patrol circuit at 6 km when I’m struck by a technical malfunction (disco). Replaning at Cambrai and halfway back, I’m led to understand that the enemy sweep element has arrived and is engaged over Reims. This must mean that the bombers aren’t far off, and here I am, still a ways to go! I pedal hard, and arrive at 5 km shortly before the main force arrives.

I’m out of touch with the group and on my own. The sky is full of contacts - mostly friendly. Then I start picking up 110s, and engage. North of the city a couple of 109s are desperately trying to fend for themselves, and to help the embattled 110s. One after one they go down trailing smoke and flames. I manage to keep my altitude and my six reasonably clear. I spot two Heinkels co-altitude, and make a hasty pass at the trailing ship just as the leader bursts into flames, hit by a happy crowd of Hurricanes.

Soon there are but a few surviving enemy fighters around and for the rest of the sortie it’s a question of who will be lucky or quick enough to cash their scalps. I’m not one of them, but land at Berry after a lengthy chase with two 110s to my credit and a third damaged. Madness runs wild with four kills and our only loss is Hammered, shot down early in the fight.

Signed: BMBM, CO 56th FG
Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: Messiah on November 26, 2006, 05:34:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by BMBM
Hey Madness - great to see yas :)
Found these (abridged) AARs with your name in em.

July 16: Bertrix Smack Down (again)
   Wingpairs are: Bmbm/Madness, Rebel357/Jblade, Ogrenutz/Kcornett. The first two pairs are on the same RW frequency while Ogre and Kc (VFA25) are on their own channel. All share the mission channel though. We climb out southeast to 4500 and start a left orbit over the target while waiting for dawn. Madness and I are top element. Before daybreak, Rebel and Jblade engage a couple of bandits, shooting down two. We continue to orbit, eventually letting down to 3000 meters.

Shortly after dawn the field comes alive with lufties eager to support their ground troops. Precious few of them check their six as they motor out, and are unceremoniously shot out of the sky. Some leak through though, mainly because Ogre and Kcornett are having problems with acquiring the enemy against the still dark ground. Kcornett is a fresh recruit to boot, so our third element isn’t as effective as could be hoped for. This compels us to leave the high perch and let down to engage.

I don’t remember the individual kills, but I do remember the excellent wingmanship of Madness, and that Rebel357 and Jblade remain in the area until they’ve expended all their ammunition. I also remember missing a few easy shots and seeing Madness finishing off the rotter - I do the same for him later on. Swooping down with a few seconds of separation on the leader, the wingman usually gets a very good shot at the recovering target. Having shot down a number of badguys, I’m eventually down to popguns, and hand over the lead to Madness. He strikes down two more enemy before he too is virtually out of ammunition. By this time Rebel357 and Jblade are on their last leg home, and Ogre and Kc have gone down over Bertrix.

Having played around a bit with a 110 near Wellin, soon to be despatched by Mick, we return to base to count our kills: I score 7, Madness 3, and the other four guys score 6 between them. That makes 16 victories for 2 losses, in a sortie that lasts 1 hour 47 min - 1 hr 20 min on station.

Signed: BMBM, CO 56th FG


Sunday, July 28: Reims Intercept
56th takes off Cambrai-Niergnies at 20:10, somewhat delayed, and starts the weary climb to altitude on a southeasterly heading. We have four elements (8 pilots) and have just completed one full patrol circuit at 6 km when I’m struck by a technical malfunction (disco). Replaning at Cambrai and halfway back, I’m led to understand that the enemy sweep element has arrived and is engaged over Reims. This must mean that the bombers aren’t far off, and here I am, still a ways to go! I pedal hard, and arrive at 5 km shortly before the main force arrives.

I’m out of touch with the group and on my own. The sky is full of contacts - mostly friendly. Then I start picking up 110s, and engage. North of the city a couple of 109s are desperately trying to fend for themselves, and to help the embattled 110s. One after one they go down trailing smoke and flames. I manage to keep my altitude and my six reasonably clear. I spot two Heinkels co-altitude, and make a hasty pass at the trailing ship just as the leader bursts into flames, hit by a happy crowd of Hurricanes.

Soon there are but a few surviving enemy fighters around and for the rest of the sortie it’s a question of who will be lucky or quick enough to cash their scalps. I’m not one of them, but land at Berry after a lengthy chase with two 110s to my credit and a third damaged. Madness runs wild with four kills and our only loss is Hammered, shot down early in the fight.

Signed: BMBM, CO 56th FG



:eek: Wow, haha blast from the past right there!  I actually remember some of the first AAR; not so much of the second.  Man I was so green back then, haha.  Thanks for the good times hope we can wing again sometime :)

Title: Thanks for the good times - here's payback!
Post by: airspro on November 26, 2006, 06:15:30 AM
"Experience will tell you where to launch, where to patrol, how to execute your
mission, when to engage and when not to. Experience tells you whether the bogey is friendly
or enemy, whether he’s a bomber or fighter, whether he’s heading toward you or away from
you, whether he’s seen you or not. Experience gives you a subconscious scanning routine,
the ability to format, the tingle along the spine that tells you to break hard away, the ability to
check six while you’re dogfighting, the keen sense for energy. Experience tells you where
your exit window is, when to disengage, how to fox an enemy, the difference between too
soon and too late. It is all that you need, and everything the beginner wants.
It’s a cruel war out there. Some of your opponents have logged thousands of hours
and engaged the enemy tens of thousands times, whereas quite a few have hardly even
scored their first kill yet. It is very much like in the real war, but here the veterans are
immeasurably more experienced than ever the greatest Experten – except in the discipline of
staying alive that is. Until you become experienced, and that may take months, years even,
read as much as you can, study acknowledged veterans in the air, and fly as if your life
depended on it. You are fortunate in having recourse to a lot of training material and
accumulated wisdom that the real pilots didn’t – some were sent up in the air with less than
40 hours of tuition, and with no more combat instruction than Dicta Boelcke2."

Good stuff :aok

Thanks