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Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Yeager on October 10, 2006, 11:09:28 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/10/chapman.parole.ap/index.html

I remember it clearly, December 8th 1980.  I was watching TV in the living room when the breaking news came on saying "Ex Beatle John Lennon has just been shot outside the Dakota apartment building where he lives.  There is no word as to his condition".......of course I came to find out that by the time we had heard that news Lennon was already dead.

Lennon would have been 66 years old Yesterday (bd: Oct 9, 1940) had he not been murdered by a side show freak that to this day robs the entire planet of oxygen with every breath of homicidal lunacy.  chapman thinks he should be paroled.  Next hearing is in October of 2008.  If chapman ever gets out I wonder who will go down in history as the one to finally provide justice to humanity by putting that freak down for good.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: JB88 on October 10, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
edit. nevermind.

yep.  tragic.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 10, 2006, 11:13:41 PM
Justice you say?

And this would be justice compared to others who have been murdered and less famous?

[edit] Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?

Are you advocating that someone should kill this man to satisfy your blood-lusting for vengance?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Shuckins on October 10, 2006, 11:32:17 PM
Let him serve out the entirety of his sentence....but please don't pretend that he is somehow worse than other murderers because he killed a famous, or infamous, celebrity.


Lennon was a musician, an entertainer, and a man who disdained conventional mores and was one of the founding fathers of the free-sex movement and the modern drug culture, which have spawned innumerable problems.  He didn't deserve to die...but he was no saint.

His murderer deserves no more, and no less, punishment than the murderer of any other ordinary citizen.  If he's earned it, he should get the same consideration for parole as any other criminal.  If he hasn't earned it, he shouldn't get it.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: rpm on October 10, 2006, 11:39:56 PM
Lennon changed the world. He was a true renaissance man. Chapman deserves to serve his full sentance.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: xrtoronto on October 10, 2006, 11:43:23 PM
That guy is lucky he didn't make parole...I'd 'ave killed the bastard:mad:
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: storch on October 11, 2006, 12:08:05 AM
yup I remember the day well,  we were enjoying some drinks with friends and had just finished rolling a fatty.  the TV was on as I was pulling the LP from the dust jacket, the marshall tucker band.  my friend robert lit the doob, I turned off the TV and frau storch said "well, I guess someone didn't like his new album"  we all laughed and enjoyed the mashall tucker band along with some very high quality colombian gold.  8 Dec 1980.  you can probably tell there aren't too many beetles fans amonst my close friends and even fewer lennon fans.  it was still one of those moments that you remember the details of what you were doing when you heard the news.  the cheekbones needs to stay in jail until he rots just like any other who takes a life.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 11, 2006, 12:10:21 AM
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Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?


Intolerance?  As in the intolerance to accept that all are equal and equally deservant of their punishments?  That somehow, mental incapacitance is a get out of jail card for true punishment?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Saintaw on October 11, 2006, 12:16:18 AM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
... was one of the founding fathers of the free-sex movement ...which have spawned innumerable problems.  


lol
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: xrtoronto on October 11, 2006, 12:21:19 AM
I remember the day exactly. I got home from work late and was watching Monday Night Football...All of a sudden Howard Cosell stops talking...the play continues going on, but no Howard. You know he's there somehow, but just silence. This goes on for 30 seconds or more. The game is continuing through all this...play after play. Cosell finally speaks into the mike and you can tell immediately something is really wrong. He painfully stumbles through the announement that Lennon had been shot in front of Dakota Apartment numerous times. Then silence again. The game continues. Cosell was a pro. Pro's don't act this way; You knew it was bad.

After the worst had been realized, I lit a candle and put it in the window. I stayed up all night. I will never forget the faces of people everywhere the following day.

(http://www.american-buddha.com/ajohnlennonabol4.jpg)
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Neubob on October 11, 2006, 12:23:48 AM
What would be an appropriate penalty if he'd shot Yoko instead?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: storch on October 11, 2006, 12:32:59 AM
I believe the appropriate penalty should be a life for a life.  not necessarily end the murderer's life but to allow him to simmer in jail all the rest of his days.  I used to be an advocate of capital punishment but have come to conclude that it is far more fitting a punishment to allow the murderer to live in a cage solitarily with minimal contact with other people throughout the course of his natural life.  he's existing but he is not really living. I believe I would prefer death to that type of existence.  and yes, even if it was yoko ono that had been killed.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: xrtoronto on October 11, 2006, 12:41:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
I believe the appropriate penalty should be a life for a life.  not necessarily end the murderer's life but to allow him to simmer in jail all the rest of his days.  I used to be an advocate of capital punishment but have come to conclude that it is far more fitting a punishment to allow the murderer to live in a cage solitarily with minimal contact with other people throughout the course of his natural life.  he's existing but he is not really living. I believe I would prefer death to that type of existence.  and yes, even if it was yoko ono that had been killed.


my thinking too
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Debonair on October 11, 2006, 02:48:25 AM
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Originally posted by Neubob
What would be an appropriate penalty if he'd shot Yoko instead?


i was thinking maybe let him out & he'll kill paul, then finally we'll have the only good one left
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Dace on October 11, 2006, 06:57:17 AM
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Originally posted by IgnorantJoe
Justice you say?

And this would be justice compared to others who have been murdered and less famous?

[edit] Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?

Are you advocating that someone should kill this man to satisfy your blood-lusting for vengance?


Yes.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: AquaShrimp on October 11, 2006, 07:03:52 AM
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Originally posted by storch
yup I remember the day well,  we were enjoying some drinks with friends and had just finished rolling a fatty.  the TV was on as I was pulling the LP from the dust jacket, the marshall tucker band.  my friend robert lit the doob, I turned off the TV and frau storch said "well, I guess someone didn't like his new album"  we all laughed and enjoyed the mashall tucker band along with some very high quality colombian gold.  8 Dec 1980.  you can probably tell there aren't too many beetles fans amonst my close friends and even fewer lennon fans.  it was still one of those moments that you remember the details of what you were doing when you heard the news.  the cheekbones needs to stay in jail until he rots just like any other who takes a life.


How many friends could you comfortably fit in your mobile home? :confused:
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: straffo on October 11, 2006, 07:11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Neubob
What would be an appropriate penalty if he'd shot Yoko instead?


72 virgins ?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Nilsen on October 11, 2006, 07:35:09 AM
He is prolly safer inside than on the streets anyway. Some nutty Lennon/superstar fanboi would prolly gun him down on the outside.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: lukster on October 11, 2006, 10:14:26 AM
This guy deserves parole as much as any murderer.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Yeager on October 11, 2006, 11:23:08 AM
I like the Beatles........ man, what can I say :D
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Maverick on October 11, 2006, 12:20:54 PM
I don't miss lennon a bit. On the other hand I see no reason to parole his killer any more than any other premeditated murderer should leave prison as long as their victim remains dead.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Masherbrum on October 11, 2006, 12:31:01 PM
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Originally posted by IgnorantJoe
Justice you say?

And this would be justice compared to others who have been murdered and less famous?

[edit] Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?

Are you advocating that someone should kill this man to satisfy your blood-lusting for vengance?


Gotta love PNG's who find it "cool" to reappear and post drivel in the hopes of trolling.   Tools.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Masherbrum on October 11, 2006, 12:35:59 PM
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Originally posted by Dace
Yes.


Agree.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: soda72 on October 11, 2006, 12:51:44 PM
Interesting how they keep this guy in jail but let loose the guy who tried to assassinate Reagan..
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Debonair on October 11, 2006, 02:24:34 PM
yeah, but hinkley's family was in the oil & defense industries.:noid
chapmans a nobody
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Yeager on October 11, 2006, 03:07:58 PM
Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?
====
Oh My God!  I must have missed this one :confused:

"obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred"

Did someone just lay down a quadruple dog lick serious case of smack on my hiney :rofl
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: storch on October 11, 2006, 04:35:31 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
How many friends could you comfortably fit in your mobile home? :confused:
you shouldn't judge others by your reality.  some of us here actually make good money.  in answer to your question, at the it was an apartment on the 20th floor of a building overlooking the north bay area.  it was about 1200 sq ft so we couldn't entertain many friends there. when I retire I'll be looking for similar accomodations but hopefully on the west coast of puerto rico.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 10:41:19 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Intolerance?  As in the intolerance to accept that all are equal and equally deservant of their punishments?  That somehow, mental incapacitance is a get out of jail card for true punishment?


Confusion?  Perhaps intentional or not?

Yeager's comments about killing him equated with justice is tolerable, yes?

Suggest Chapman should be released, no?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 10:42:14 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
That guy is lucky he didn't make parole...I'd 'ave killed the bastard:mad:


You would kill this person?  Really?

Even many years today?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 10:45:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Gotta love PNG's who find it "cool" to reappear and post drivel in the hopes of trolling.   Tools.


Am I "cool" too?

Is this drivel trolls or question?

If I am not me then who am I?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 10:46:21 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Agree.


Perhaps this explains your previous post?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 10:49:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
Yeager, how can your intolerance for the mentally ill and your obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred be considered justice?
====
Oh My God!  I must have missed this one :confused:

"obvious, considerable, tenable, and palpable hatred"

Did someone just lay down a quadruple dog lick serious case of smack on my hiney :rofl


Question advocating a revenge murder as justice is not serious?

Why do you mock and dismiss?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Masherbrum on October 11, 2006, 10:56:37 PM
or PNG's that need 5 posts instead of making a single post.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 11, 2006, 11:04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
or PNG's that need 5 posts instead of making a single post.


You mock but don't answer if revenge murder is tolerable?

How sad are you?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Bodhi on October 11, 2006, 11:17:17 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Gotta love PNG's who find it "cool" to reappear and post drivel in the hopes of trolling.   Tools.


The same can be said of those that were PNG'd and licked Skuzzy's feet to get back just to post about how great it was to do drugs while talking about Lennon's death and yanking their own little ego amongst their amway kingdom.... :rolleyes:
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: storch on October 11, 2006, 11:23:26 PM
hey bodhi, nice of you to drop in.  do you need more soap?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Yeager on October 11, 2006, 11:51:37 PM
:rofl

ps: whats a PNG?
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Masherbrum on October 12, 2006, 08:02:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by IgnorantJoe
You mock but don't answer if revenge murder is tolerable?

How sad are you?


I have NEVER mocked Lennon in any post.   I agreed with what a forum member posted earlier.   I DID mock you though.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Masherbrum on October 12, 2006, 08:04:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
:rofl

ps: whats a PNG?


PNG - Persona Non Grata (they've been banned), so they create these "funny names" in the hopes of disguising their identities.  

What's funny, is that I know who "Ignorant Joe" is, by the style of his posts.   Very clever, but not clever enough.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Debonair on October 12, 2006, 09:23:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
:rofl

ps: whats a PNG?


it is a mantra for heterosexual urologists
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: weaselsan on October 12, 2006, 04:43:35 PM
He killed a Beatle! NO PAROLE...now if he only drove off a bridge drunk and drowned a chick he'd be re-elected to the Senate by now.
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 12, 2006, 10:18:12 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have NEVER mocked Lennon in any post.   I agreed with what a forum member posted earlier.   I DID mock you though.


Know me?

Good, answer question perhaps?

Revenge murder for mentally ill many years ago is justice???
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: Yeager on October 12, 2006, 11:12:02 PM
ignorant joe is yoda?

answer this one you will
Title: Parole Denied for Lennon murderer, again
Post by: IgnorantJoe on October 12, 2006, 11:32:16 PM
Still kill this man, Yeager?  This many years?