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Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Fencer51 on October 11, 2006, 11:18:25 AM
Can someone tell me when this plane reached operational Gruppen and what units those were and where they were based?  (books at home)

Thanks!
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Debonair on October 11, 2006, 01:51:47 PM
190d9 reached operational groups of the luftwaffe based in central europe in the mid 1940s
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: scottydawg on October 11, 2006, 02:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by Debonair
190d9 reached operational groups of the luftwaffe based in central europe in the mid 1940s


Classic.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: ReyPirin on October 11, 2006, 04:24:52 PM
August '44 , fully op September '44.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Fencer51 on October 11, 2006, 06:17:42 PM
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Originally posted by ReyPirin
August '44 , fully op September '44.


Thank you, according to information from from an Osprey book on LW 190 Aces you are correct.

III/JG54 deployed them in September 1944.

I appreciate your the mature answer to a question.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Debonair on October 12, 2006, 08:55:39 AM
noob
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Kev367th on October 12, 2006, 08:56:50 AM
Also depends which boost version, there were a few.

Last one (one we have in AH2) was 'ready' for deployment the end of Dec 1944, so take it around Mid/late? Jan (probably) 1945.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Bruno on October 12, 2006, 12:51:20 PM
According to Axel Urbanke's 'Green Hearts, First in Combat with the Dora 9' he states that D-9s were deliveries to III./JG54 began in Sept '44 but did not fly combat missions until Nov '44. They were 'fully deployed' to the squadron by the end of Sept '44.

D-9 production began in August '44 but this has little to do with 'deployment' or 'squadron service'.

There were four different forms of 'special emergency power' for the JUMO213A:

1. Increased Boost Pressure (Erhöhte Notleistung)
2. MW-50 Injection
3. Special Take-off peak (Sonderstartspitze)
4. GM-1

MW-50 system came in two types, low pressure (Oldenburg Gerät) and high pressure system. This pressure only refers to the pump pressure inside the MW50 system. In case of the low pressure system, MW50 was pumped to the injection valves at 0,6 atü using charged air from the engine. In case of the high pressure system, delivery pressure was 4 atü using a compressor.

The AH2 Fw 190D-9 runs at 1.80 ata (B4 + MW 50). This is the 'high pressure' MW-50 system which didn't enter service until Jan. '44.

Test flight data for the FW190D9 Wk.-Nr. 210 002 with both "Erhöhte Not-/Startleistung" and with MW-50 injection can be ordered from NASM:

1. FW/Fb/FW190-210001 (1-2)
Reel: 8069 Frame: 1153

2. FW/Fb/FW/210001/(3)
Reel: 2861 Frame: 989

3. FW/Fb/FW190-210002 (1,2,3)
Reel: 3996 Frame: 343

4. FW/FW190/Sch/16/3/45
Reel 2731 Frame: 797

Those four together will be exactly 50 pages, so if you order them, you won't exceed the limit per order.

Wk.-Nr. 210 002 was specially rigged to test the performance of both boost settings on one plane.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: MiloMorai on October 12, 2006, 01:51:05 PM
He could always buy D Hermann book on the D-9.

ISBN 0-7643-1876-4

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/fw190d9-ta152-longitudinal-sections-1.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/fw190d9-plan-section-1.jpg)
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: 1K3 on October 12, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
The D-9 version we have with MW-50 was early 1945.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Fencer51 on October 12, 2006, 09:31:14 PM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
He could always buy D Hermann book on the D-9.

ISBN 0-7643-1876-4


Yes I could if I wanted to build a D9, I just wanted some quick information on their deployment before I was reunited with my entire library.

Cheers.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Fencer51 on October 12, 2006, 09:34:43 PM
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Originally posted by Debonair
noob


Wow, what a witty person.  I am so amazed by the childish lack of a life which allows you to troll the boards.  I remember being that young, but never that much of a dweeb.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Debonair on October 12, 2006, 10:42:23 PM
how old were when your sense of humor was amputated?

u--->:mad:
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: MiloMorai on October 13, 2006, 12:45:11 AM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Yes I could if I wanted to build a D9, I just wanted some quick information on their deployment before I was reunited with my entire library.

Cheers.
I wasn't really picking on you, just thought it would nice get a plug in for the Hermann book.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Guppy35 on October 13, 2006, 11:52:36 AM
The Hermann book is a good one.  Found it at a half priced books stores too.  It was a steal :)
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Fencer51 on October 13, 2006, 12:03:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MiloMorai
I wasn't really picking on you, just thought it would nice get a plug in for the Hermann book.


Not a problem.
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Ball on October 13, 2006, 07:25:22 PM
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Originally posted by Debonair
how old were when your sense of humor was amputated?

u--->:mad:


there is nothing funny about war :mad: :mad: :furious :mad: :mad:

think of all the people that have given their lives protecting bishdom, knitland and rooktopia. :cry :cry

:mad:
Title: Info Request: Fw 190 D-9 Deployment history
Post by: Stang on October 13, 2006, 07:36:30 PM
Just got back from the pub eh, Ball?