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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CMC Airboss on October 13, 2006, 02:55:27 PM
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After all of the vehement denial of bankruptcy rumors, Air America has filed chapter 11.
Air America Radio files for Chapter 11 By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer
NEW YORK - Air America Radio, the liberal talk and news radio network that features the comedian Al Franken, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Friday, but will stay on the air while it reorganizes with funding from its investor group.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061013/ap_en_bu/air_america_radio_bankruptcy_12
The question I have: Is it the business model, the target audience, or the lack of commitment from financial backing? I think it boils down to investors tired of watching their money go down the drain with no prospect for recuping profits. It hung around a lot longer than I expected though.
MiG
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george soros will write another check. $$
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I heard Soros wants out. I'm pretty sure that the problem is falling ratings - a failure to appeal to many people beyond a relatively small group of ultra leftist progressives. Its tough for Progressives to do talk that doesn't sound totallly negative, whiney and arrogant to the average American. Still, they may be able to maintain a presence on the air.
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Gee, guess people just dont like the message they are trying to get across? I suppose blame America gloom n doom aint something people are much for....they can get that daily on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc etc
Must be a sour pill to swallow...Rush, Hannity and others are still hugely profitable with huge audiences.
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If you have ever listened to Airhead America , you could see how they are in that spot.
Listen to them for about 30 minutes and you'll be the most depressed person. Frik you'll be thinking the secret service will be at your door watiing to take you away. Or , the CIA or FBI.
It's just amazing to listen to the stuff they say. Then turn on say...Hannity , Igram , Limbaugh , those types. HUGE differnce in how it is delivered and such.
I have ben listening to both side otw to work. Conservative going to work...Air America otw home from work for about the last 3 months.
IF you get a chance before they leave the air....try it. You'll see what I mean.
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Originally posted by Gunthr
I heard Soros wants out. I'm pretty sure that the problem is falling ratings - a failure to appeal to many people beyond a relatively small group of ultra leftist progressives. Its tough for Progressives to do talk that doesn't sound totallly negative, whiney and arrogant to the average American. Still, they may be able to maintain a presence on the air.
It really didn't have much to do with ratings, but a bad business choice.
The stereotypical Democrat lives in the city and doesn't drive much. Therefor he is a bad target for any radio stations.
The stereotypical Republican lives in the country and drives everywhere. Therefore he is a good target for any radio stations.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
It really didn't have much to do with ratings, but a bad business choice.
The stereotypical Democrat lives in the city and doesn't drive much. Therefor he is a bad target for any radio stations.
The stereotypical Republican lives in the country and drives everywhere. Therefore he is a good target for any radio stations.
Pfffffffft thanks for the awesome laugh! Blame it on demographics? LOL
Your stereotyping is just plain wrong.
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RedTop nailed it I think. I have XM radio and listen to both sides while I'm on the road all the time. Air America is just downright depressing and negative. The sterotypes about right wing radio actually fit the reality of Air America much better.
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Originally posted by Stang
RedTop nailed it I think. I have XM radio and listen to both sides while I'm on the road all the time. Air America is just downright depressing and negative. The sterotypes about right wing radio actually fit the reality of Air America much better.
You ever read DNC talking points???? LOL
Yea I think this is just a big right wing consirvative conspiracy to undermine the democrats.
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Well... there it is... this all proves that the conservatives know EXACTLY what they are doing because a liberal talk show goes under.
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While I enjoy Franken's books, his radio show pretty much blew. I do enjoy Dave Bender though.
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The last time I listened to Air America, I learned that Osama Bin Laden was originally an actor, who was hired by the CIA to be a "terrorist"....uh huh...since then i have skipped that channel on XM...
And the whole drive 2 work thing is complete BS...I listen to talk radio AT work as background noise when I am not swamped!
And Hannity compared to anyone else on airhead america is night and day...
I've been getting into the radio factor lately, and mark davies
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Originally posted by mosgood
Well... there it is... this all proves that the conservatives know EXACTLY what they are doing because a liberal talk show goes under.
Name a successful, liberal democrat talk radio show that comes close to the audience size and financial success.
Please...name them. If there are any
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Bush had his corporate buddies kill Air America.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Name a successful, liberal democrat talk radio show that comes close to the audience size and financial success.
Please...name them. If there are any
You Bet Your Life
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Originally posted by LePaul
Name a successful, liberal democrat talk radio show that comes close to the audience size and financial success.
Please...name them. If there are any
Sooo... right is on the side of the masses? If that is the case... Iraq had nuclear weapons, smoking doesnt cause cancer and Al Gore is REALLY the president.
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Originally posted by mosgood
Sooo... right is on the side of the masses? If that is the case... Iraq had nuclear weapons, smoking doesnt cause cancer and Al Gore is REALLY the president.
I didn't read it that way...but.
Right is not on the side of the masses. They're just better at radio.
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It also helps , I think , when doing radio and picking apart the other side , no matter which one it is , that you have a constructive plan on how to possibly fix the problem your bashing the other side about.
In the time I have listened to talk radio , which is that last few years , I have heard more Ideas from one side on how to fix a problem than I have from the other. Now granted I haven't listened to Liberal radio as much. Not near as much. But , as I said above , the Air America crews , the Genene(sp) Girafallo , Sam Cedars , Franken , and a few others I can't mention , don't ever seem to have an idea to possibly fix the issue at hand. All I hear , and someone chime in here , is negative upon negative. No plan. Just bash , bit** , blame , whine and conspire. Thats it. Nothing more.
It is George Bush's fault that it rains to much. It's George Bush's fault that some schmuck killed 5 lil amish girls. It's GW's fault or the republican machines fault for the lot in life. It's old. It's depressing and frankly just ignorant.
I hear arguments from the right radio , and alot of times , not all but alot , I hear someone say something like , "now here's what we need to do to fix it". Hannity has been pretty hard on ole Dubya on some issues. So has Rush , Laura Ingram , and O'Rielly well he is always finding fault.
But , each and every one of them have something in mind on a plan to target that problem.
Giraffllo's plan is just to off Bush. Yeah...good plan there.
Like I said , same ole song and dance to the same ole music.
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who said Iraq had Nuclear weapons?
watch the movie 3o seconds over tokoyo .. made in the 50's about an event in the 40's and they called ciggarettes "coffin nails"(only fricken idiots didnt know cigs case cancer)
and if gore was president we would all be dead by now(a fair number would be self inflicted wounds)
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I have XM... I can see how airhead america is going under.... It is everything that is bad about liberals...
It is probly why the democrats get tromped... so long as these whack job liberals support the democrats and hate the republicans... normal people are gonna associate loony tunes liberalism with democrats.
Even if democrats had something to say... had a decent idea... it get's lost by them being tarred (and rightly so) by the whack job liberal brush.
You would have to be canadian to like liberal radio.
lazs
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Conservative radio works because it's an alternative to CBS, ABC, NBC... (radio or tv) CNN...MSNBC...PBS... prolly forgot some others.... Air America isn't offering a unique product for consumption. (And liberalism rarely stands up to intelligent discourse)
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lol, seems more righties listen to air america than lefties
My guess would be the huge corporate backing of conservative radio
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Originally posted by Sixpence
lol, seems more righties listen to air america than lefties
My guess would be the huge corporate backing of conservative radio
Umm..one other thing about liberals....most seem to have no understanding of economics---if people LISTEN to your show, it becomes worthwhile for potential advertisers to ADVERTISE on said show-- Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, et al are on the air because they have ratings and their shows make MONEY. (Or perhaps they are only on because Richard Melon Scafe and Rupert Murdoch are secretly funding them:rofl )
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six... the biggest corporation is the government and they support NPR...or... it would go under too.
They pretend to be unbiased but are so far left it is silly. Their idea of a fair show is "Republicans, crazy and stupid?" and then they have one guy on who says yes to both... one who sayst that they are only crazy and another who says that they are only stupid.
NPR is constantly pointing out every bad thing that happens to republicans or their policies... they are still giving foley a few hours a day...
And.. what everyone notices before long... they never have any solutions other than socialism and letting democrats run the country.
lazs
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Yea but Republicans ALWAYS generalize!
they never have any solutions other than socialism
:cool:
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nothing wrong with generalizing.
In the case of left wing radio it is particularly helpful... saying that they only have socialist solutions to every problem is simply cutting to the chase.
lazs
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LOL...They pay these people enormous salaries that are 6 and 7 figures. They get caught in a scandal of stealing almost a million dollars for childerns organazation. One of the producers makes 675,000.00 a year. And they wonder why they are going under?
They have way less stations than conservative radio.
It really is no suprise at all as I stated before why they are losing thier butts.
22,000,000.00 in debt w/ 4,000,000.00 in assets , and almost a million owed to a childrens fund that they stole from. ROFLMBO. Not a word basically on the news tho.
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/06/randi-rhodes-air-america-contract.html
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/06/al-franken-radio-challenge-randi.html
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneblog/columns/barone_050804a.htm