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Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Nilsen on October 15, 2006, 09:32:02 AM
The usage of the stuff in the UK has dropped to a 10 year low.

I think this should be an eye opener to our government. Ive been suspecting that legalising the stuff would be a great ide. The police could focus on what matters.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1870841.ece
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: xrtoronto on October 15, 2006, 05:04:16 PM
Legal or illegal doesn't really matter to me. I've been enjoying doobage since about age 15. It's one of those things that is totally unreasonable...you can drink booze but not smoke pot. Stupid if you ask me.

Booze makes people aggressive and fall down allot. OTOH pot gives you munchies and later a good nights sleep.

The most common arguement is it's a 'gateway' drug. Well..um..the first thing I experimented with in my life was booooooze! That was the gateway drug for me.

What's more is the first report done and released this summer shows no known cancer producing agents in pot smoke (unlike cigarettes)

But legal or not doesn't change anything for me. I get my supply from independent growers to bypass the illegal 'black market' therefore no support of gang violence.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Nilsen on October 15, 2006, 05:29:11 PM
I enjoy one every now and then. Perhaps as much as  3 or maybe 4 times a year when I was young and wild. Now its been about a year but who knows, maybe im in the mood for one the next time i have the oportunity.

If it was legal and available I might up the dosage to 3 or 4 times a year again.

As with most things they are more fun when you dont do it all the time. :)
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Neubob on October 15, 2006, 05:40:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I enjoy one every now and then. Perhaps as much as  3 or maybe 4 times a year when I was young and wild. Now its been about a year but who knows, maybe im in the mood for one the next time i have the oportunity.

If it was legal and available I might up the dosage to 3 or 4 times a year again.

As with most things they are more fun when you dont do it all the time. :)


Nilson = (http://www.costumenetwork.com/albums/3/pothead.jpg)
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 15, 2006, 05:45:59 PM
Some problems with the report.

1.) Doesn't show how many people it sampled.  Nor where the people were sampled.

2.) Doesn't show if any increase or decrease in harder drugs exists.  With the ease of restrictions of marijuana, has it emboldened people to try more dangerous ones?  Are there converts who used to toke, but now are in harder ones instead?

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What's more is the first report done and released this summer shows no known cancer producing agents in pot smoke


BS.

Marijuana is not as carefree and healthy as smokers would have you think.  On the other hand, it is not as deadly and bad for you as anti-drug people would have you think.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: JB88 on October 15, 2006, 05:52:08 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
Nilson = (http://www.costumenetwork.com/albums/3/pothead.jpg)


HA!
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: xrtoronto on October 15, 2006, 06:01:55 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Marijuana is not as carefree and healthy as smokers would have you think.  On the other hand, it is not as deadly and bad for you as anti-drug people would have you think.


ya..I wouldn't argue that
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Dago on October 15, 2006, 06:04:57 PM
The law against weed exists so cops have a reason to lock up them long haired hippie freaks keeping our daughters safe from those preeeverts.  :D
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Vudak on October 15, 2006, 10:02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
The law against weed exists so cops have a reason to lock up them long haired hippie freaks keeping our daughters safe from those preeeverts.  :D


I always thought the law against weed exists so cops in small towns like mine had something to do :confused:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 15, 2006, 10:21:41 PM
The laws against weed exist because cotton farmers were worried that hemp was going to outsell cotton.  The "Ill effects" were just a front to get them banned.  The cotton industry lobbied hard to get it illegalized.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 15, 2006, 10:28:26 PM
seems ridiculous considering hemp made for clothing and material is totaly narcotic free.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Bluedog on October 15, 2006, 10:32:19 PM
The name DuPont and the invention of Nylon has more to do with pot being illegal than any concern over it's ill effects.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: rpm on October 15, 2006, 11:00:27 PM
You can blame the current state of marijuana laws on one man, Harry J. Anslinger.:mad:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Debonair on October 15, 2006, 11:51:33 PM
hairy j
thats a euphamism im surprised never caught on lol!
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: x0847Marine on October 16, 2006, 12:23:04 AM
When people ask me, a former cop, why I smoke weed daily, I tell em nature is smarter than politicians and drug companies.

For years I took whatever pills the doc said would help with my torn up nerves, blood tests showed my liver & kidneys were taking a thrashing on top of living in a "chemical straight jacket"
 
Started smoking medical grade weed a year ago, it does everything BETTER than the ALL the pills combined; kills pain, calms my nerve pain, sleep better.. you name it. Weed has replaced them all and I feel much better. I'm not a unique case, cancer patients tokers drastically reduce prescription drug intake as well... weed just works better.

I do love how the disgraced clones booted from clonegress all allege they are drunks, alcohol is a legal addictive drug; ergo they are drug addicts.. yet they tell you and I we cant smoke a non addictive plant thats less harmful than their drug of choice? scumbag hypocrites.

This 1 big reason why I'm an Independent thinker and voter, dems / republiclones lack the nuts to use common sense and stand up to the party that paid for their seat in office. It took the people of California to change the laws here, we obviously wanted legal weed, but the spineless republiclones & democlones, once again, ignored the will of the people and sided with money.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: JB88 on October 16, 2006, 12:34:32 AM
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Originally posted by Debonair
hairy j
thats a euphamism im surprised never caught on lol!


ahem.  euphEmism.  ahem.

:cool:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: nirvana on October 16, 2006, 12:58:44 AM
That's a really good argument i've heard for medical marijuana, Marine.  A girl in my government class last year had a dad with a nerve disorder that caused him to feel like he was on fire, according to her.  When he started smoking it all but killed the pain and he went from 28 pills a day down to a couple and a 2 doobies.

As long as the smoke isn't being blown in my face i'm fine.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Debonair on October 16, 2006, 02:21:16 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
ahem.  euphEmism.  ahem.

:cool:


oh yeah?!?!!?:mad: why dont you just go smoke a hairy j, mr grammar school? :furious :furious :furious :mad:








:D :rofl :cool: :cool:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: JB88 on October 16, 2006, 02:29:11 AM
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Originally posted by Debonair
oh yeah?!?!!?:mad: why dont you just go smoke a hairy j, mr grammar school? :furious :furious :furious :mad:








:D :rofl :cool: :cool:



well, if yer gonna twist my arm.

:cool:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: SMIDSY on October 16, 2006, 02:29:43 AM
i just heard that it is legal in Denver, where i will be the week after christmas this year:aok. i could lite it up while walking down the sidewalk, and if i blew smoke in a cop's face he couldnt do anything but sit there groovin on it.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: JB88 on October 16, 2006, 02:44:46 AM
somehow i doubt that, but if you feel the urge to try, i'll be happy to read the report.

:D
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: x0847Marine on October 16, 2006, 02:51:19 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
That's a really good argument i've heard for medical marijuana, Marine.  A girl in my government class last year had a dad with a nerve disorder that caused him to feel like he was on fire, according to her.  When he started smoking it all but killed the pain and he went from 28 pills a day down to a couple and a 2 doobies.

As long as the smoke isn't being blown in my face i'm fine.


I have the exact same type of pain, 24/7 my arm feels like its ablaze, my finger nails feel like they are being peeled back while a car is parked on top of it. When you damage nerves, they freak out and report mixed signals. I tore up an entire nerve trunk, not just one.

I took pills for years man, more kinds than I can remember..  During that time there was no way in hell I was smoking weed, I was still a detective, pot was "bad" and nobody could tell me otherwise.

After grunting it out for 5+ years, I gave in and smoked some bomb Kush.. instant and total relief, and this is no BS.. that was the 1st time in years all my pain was gone. Weed might not be for everyone, but for seriously Fed up folks like me, and that dude, it's nothing short of a miracle drug.

I started growing my own, you just cant beat pain relief for pennies on the dollar.. the Feds could bust me at any time tho. AAMOF one of my squaddies with a bad back got busted and is looking at prison time... which totally blows.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 16, 2006, 03:17:27 AM
I wouldn't post stuff like that public if I were you xmarine. Due to the patriot act, you can very easily be busted through your ISP.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Saintaw on October 16, 2006, 03:22:22 AM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto


Booze makes people aggressive and fall down allot.  



:rofl

<--- 4 stiches from fallin down on my face (drunk) this week end.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Nilsen on October 16, 2006, 03:28:35 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
:rofl

<--- 4 stiches from fallin down on my face (drunk) this week end.


:rofl
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 16, 2006, 11:54:09 AM
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
I have the exact same type of pain, 24/7 my arm feels like its ablaze, my finger nails feel like they are being peeled back while a car is parked on top of it. When you damage nerves, they freak out and report mixed signals. I tore up an entire nerve trunk, not just one.

I took pills for years man, more kinds than I can remember..  During that time there was no way in hell I was smoking weed, I was still a detective, pot was "bad" and nobody could tell me otherwise.

After grunting it out for 5+ years, I gave in and smoked some bomb Kush.. instant and total relief, and this is no BS.. that was the 1st time in years all my pain was gone. Weed might not be for everyone, but for seriously Fed up folks like me, and that dude, it's nothing short of a miracle drug.

I started growing my own, you just cant beat pain relief for pennies on the dollar.. the Feds could bust me at any time tho. AAMOF one of my squaddies with a bad back got busted and is looking at prison time... which totally blows.




i fully support your statements. having broken my neck not once but twice, there isnt much that can do better than mild grade pot for pain relief.

on the other hand i would strongly suggest both acupuncture and magnetic treatment, both of which help my muscle and nerve problems no end.

there is nothing in the world that i have felt as painfull as a damaged spine and spinal cord, i truly do sympathise with anyone in the same possition.  My only fear is that im only 23 years old, my life is gunna suck if i make it to 60.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Eagler on October 16, 2006, 12:07:45 PM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I wouldn't post stuff like that public if I were you xmarine. Due to the patriot act, you can very easily be busted through your ISP.


yep, the black helos are on the way to bust his pot farm ... evil Boosh strikes again LOL

I think they have bigger fish to fry ..
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Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2006, 12:47:12 PM
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I tell em nature is smarter than politicians and drug companies.


Nature made cyanide, viruses, bacteria, deadly poisons...  Nature isn't as warm and huggable as you would like.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Ripsnort on October 16, 2006, 12:54:55 PM
I don't smoke it anymore (was wasting my time dazed and it wasn't doing my short term attention span any good) but I do think the laws we  have here in America are rediculous. They should release all the pot smokers that were busted in our prisons and lock up more hardcore criminals.
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Post by: indy007 on October 16, 2006, 12:56:38 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Nature made cyanide, viruses, bacteria, deadly poisons...  Nature isn't as warm and huggable as you would like.


Nature made this too...

Is this not huggable?

(http://www.puppydogweb.com/gallery/pugs/pug_sandlin.jpg)

Have you no soul?
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Ripsnort on October 16, 2006, 12:57:33 PM
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Originally posted by indy007
Nature made this too...

Is this not huggable?


Have you no soul?
Chew toy for a Rot. :D
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2006, 01:13:12 PM
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Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Yeager on October 16, 2006, 01:34:59 PM
best thing is to live a life free of all intoxicants and hallucinogens.  

Stay straight, eat well and excercise daily.....might even enjoy old age when you get there.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Nilsen on October 16, 2006, 01:47:14 PM
Thats just liberal conservative propaganda yeager. We dont want that here.
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Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2006, 05:10:10 PM
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might even enjoy old age when you get there.


You don't enjoy old age, you just live through it.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Saintaw on October 16, 2006, 05:33:44 PM
I paraphrase but... I'm a 110% with this:


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you can quit smoking, drinking and "having a pyisical relationship with another human being" ... you won't live longer, it will just feel that way
 - author unknown to me

Edit: if someone finds me the exact quote to put in my sig...eternal gratitude.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on October 16, 2006, 10:15:35 PM
If enjoying old age means not enjoying a drink or a smoke now and then, who needs it.
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Post by: Billy Joe Bob on October 16, 2006, 11:00:46 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
(http://www.resourceinvestor.com/MediaLib/Images/Home/Blog/uglydog.png)


what the hell is that :eek:
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Post by: Regular on October 16, 2006, 11:04:33 PM
People still smoke weed?  I cook\bake. Sorta more intense when its burned...
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Post by: B@tfinkV on October 17, 2006, 10:49:54 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I paraphrase but... I'm a 110% with this:


  - author unknown to me

Edit: if someone finds me the exact quote to put in my sig...eternal gratitude.



I used to have that quote in my sig back in AH1 saw...




"if you quit smoking, drinking, and sexual activities, you wont actually live longer, it will just feel like it"

Rudyard Kipling
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Neubob on October 17, 2006, 11:00:36 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
i just heard that it is legal in Denver, where i will be the week after christmas this year:aok. i could lite it up while walking down the sidewalk, and if i blew smoke in a cop's face he couldnt do anything but sit there groovin on it.


He wouldn't groove in it.

Blowing smoke into somebody's face, intentionally, is considered offensive contact, which is the key element of battery. Yes, it's crazy, but there is actually precedent for this in American Common Law.

The cop could, and probably would, cuff you, and take you in. The fact that it's weed would only aggravate the situation.
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Nilsen on October 17, 2006, 12:00:25 PM
maybe if he did it once, but i think the cop would chill if he got 2 or more puffs in his mug :cool:
Title: This should be excellent new for those of us that wants to legalise cannabis
Post by: Saintaw on October 17, 2006, 12:13:37 PM
Thanks Batty! :D
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Post by: wooley on October 17, 2006, 12:40:04 PM
Quick point about the original article / posting:

Cannabis is not legal in the UK - its not even been de-criminalised.

About 3 years ago, it was reclassified from a class-B to a class-C controlled substance. What this effectively means is that if you get caught with a relatively small amount, you are unlikely to be charged with an offense. You may receive a Police Caution - a kind of official warning as to your future conduct that goes on your record (and may - for example - preclude entry to the US under the visa-waiver program).

Dealing will still land you a fairly lengthy spell as a guest of Her Majesty.

Point is - regardless of what you may or may not be able to do in Denver, DO NOT try blowing smoke from a doobie in a London copper's face or you'll quickly find out how they compensate for their lack of firearms. :O
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Post by: B@tfinkV on October 17, 2006, 01:04:14 PM
lol wooley, so very true.
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Post by: Gunthr on October 17, 2006, 01:17:42 PM
NEW YORK—The Food and Drug Administration today approved the sale of the drug PharmAmorin, a prescription tablet developed by Pfizer to treat chronic distrust of large prescription-drug manufacturers.

Pfizer executives characterized the FDA's approval as a "godsend" for sufferers of independent-thinking-related mental-health disorders.



PharmAmorin, now relieving distrust of large pharmaceutical conglomerates in pharmacies nationwide.
"Many individuals today lack the deep, abiding affection for drug makers that is found in healthy people, such as myself," Pfizer CEO Hank McKinnell said. "These tragic disorders are reaching epidemic levels, and as a company dedicated to promoting the health, well-being, and long life of our company's public image, it was imperative that we did something to combat them."

Although many psychotropic drugs impart a generalized feeling of well-being, PharmAmorin is the first to induce and focus intense feelings of affection externally, toward for-profit drug makers. Pfizer representatives say that, if taken regularly, PharmAmorin can increase affection for and trust in its developers by as much as 96.5 percent.

"Out of a test group of 180, 172 study participants reported a dramatic rise in their passion for pharmaceutical companies," said Pfizer director of clinical research Suzanne Frost. "And 167 asked their doctors about a variety of prescription medications they had seen on TV."

Frost said a small percentage of test subjects showed an interest in becoming lobbyists for one of the top five pharmaceutical companies, and several browsed eBay for drug-company apparel.

PharmAmorin, available in 100-, 200-, and 400-mg tablets, is classified as a critical-thinking inhibitor, a family of drugs that holds great promise for the estimated 20 million Americans who suffer from Free-Thinking Disorder.

Pfizer will also promote PharmAmorin in an aggressive, $34.6 million print and televised ad campaign.

One TV ad, set to debut during next Sunday's 60 Minutes telecast, shows a woman relaxing in her living room and reading a newspaper headlined "Newest Drug Company Scandal Undermines Public Trust." The camera zooms into the tangled neural matter of her brain, revealing a sticky black substance and a purplish gas.

The narrator says, "She may show no symptoms, but in her brain, irrational fear and dislike of global pharmaceutical manufacturers is overwhelming her very peace of mind."

After a brief summary of PharmAmorin's benefits, the commercial concludes with the woman flying a kite across a sunny green meadow, the Pfizer headquarters gleaming in the background.

PharmAmorin is the first drug of its kind, but Pfizer will soon face competition from rival pharmaceutical giant Bristol-Myers Squibb. The company is developing its own pro-pharmaceutical-company medication, Brismysquibicin, which will induce warm feelings not just for drug corporations in general, but solely for Bristol-Myers Squibb.

"A PharmAmorin user could find himself gravitating toward the products of a GlaxoSmithKline or Eli Lilly," BMS spokesman Andrew Fike said. "This could seriously impede the patient's prescription-drug-market acceptance, or worse, Pfizer's profits in the long run."

"Brismysquibicin will be cheaper to produce and therefore far more affordable to those on fixed incomes," Fike added.

The news of an affordable skepticism-inhibitor was welcomed by New York physician Christine Blake-Mann, who runs a free clinic in Spanish Harlem.

"A lot of my patients are very leery of the medical establishment," Blake-Mann said. "This will help them feel better about it, and save money at the same time."

PharmAmorin's side effects include nausea, upset stomach, and ignoring the side effects of prescription drug medication


- From the Onion